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Sussex children join ranks of the deprived


Parts of Sussex have been deemed as impoverished as London sink estates by a children’s charity.

The Children’s Country Holidays Fund, which sends deprived children from London on trips to Sussex, said it is now working with children here too after a rise in poverty across the county.

Established 125 years ago, the Hassocks-based charity said the move was something it had never envisaged and was prompted in part by shocking figures released recently by the Campaign to End Child Poverty.

The campaign says that 72% of children in East Brighton, 70% in Moulsecoomb and Bevendean and 54% in Hollingbury and Stanmer live in families struggling to make ends meet.

In Newhaven, 44% of children live in families with financial difficulties, in Peacehaven the figure is 40% and in Lewes it is 40% in two of its three wards.

Lydia Davis, chief executive of the charity, said: “Until now, Hassocks has hosted predominantly deprived young Londoners. However, we have been made increasingly aware that there is another side to Sussex.

“We have identified pockets of innercity deprivation from Hastings to Hove, Worthing to Crawley, as severe as any in the London sink estates and poor inner-city boroughs.

“There are hundreds of children on our own doorstep equally disadvantaged by single-parent families, physical and mental abuse, drugs, bullying, exclusion and lack of safe play space, as well as poverty.”

Des Turner, MP for Brighton Kemptown, said he was saddened but not surprised by the comparison.

He said: “This is something that those of us on the ground in Brighton have known for a long time. There is an awful disparity between the comfortably-off in Brighton and the less comfortably-off.

“A lot of people are struggling at the moment because there is not a complete spectrum of jobs available.”

Darren Snow, manager of the Crew Club youth centre on Brighton’s Whitehawk estate, said: “It’s always been an issue but poverty is not just about money, it’s about access to services and other factors.”


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NoWaySeriously, Hove says...
3:35pm Fri 21 Nov 08

...and it's also about a choice. How many of these parents choose to be how they are? A lot more than you think, I can tell you...

Arther Daley, all over the manor says...
3:35pm Fri 21 Nov 08

Same old estates, same old problems, why oh why cant the people of these estates 'move on up' ?

Fercri Sakes, Hove says...
4:08pm Fri 21 Nov 08

30 years of not taxing the rich has led to this. Raise the starting tax rate to 15K, get rid of council tax and tax the rich 50%. This will encourage people to work.

Trickle-down economics isn't working so it's time to redistribute the money in our relatively rich country more fairly.

Arther Daley, all over the manor says...
4:21pm Fri 21 Nov 08

Fercri Sakes wrote:
30 years of not taxing the rich has led to this. Raise the starting tax rate to 15K, get rid of council tax and tax the rich 50%. This will encourage people to work. Trickle-down economics isn't working so it's time to redistribute the money in our relatively rich country more fairly.
YOU IDIOT, taxing the rich 50% will take away any incentive to work at all

Fercri Sakes, Hove says...
4:25pm Fri 21 Nov 08

Arthur, can you explain why? Especially how taxing a rich man 50% will stop people in sink estates going out and getting a job?

Or was there some sarcasm going on there?

NoWaySeriously, Hove says...
6:41pm Fri 21 Nov 08

A percentage is a percentage and goes us accordingly.

You earn £1000 a month, you pay £200 tax. You earn £100,000 a month, you pay £20,000! Why should you have to pay more, just because you earn more?! This whole country is screwed. The rich a paying for the scum to sit around. THe hard working are paying for the scum to watch ITV1 all freakin' day.

20% flat rate. End of.

NoWaySeriously, Hove says...
7:09pm Fri 21 Nov 08

Fercri Sakes wrote:
Arthur, can you explain why? Especially how taxing a rich man 50% will stop people in sink estates going out and getting a job?

Or was there some sarcasm going on there?
I think what he means is why bother getting a job and giving HALF of your wage to scum, when you may as well just sit about at get a hand out too...

Guerrero, Alicante says...
8:14pm Fri 21 Nov 08

Poverty my arse.
Plasma tv's,blackberry's,i-
phones,psp's and x-boxes are abundant on these estates.They may be nicked,but they are there.
Poverty is no electric,no gas and no water.
Not not having a playstation three and a wii.

Fercri Sakes, Hove says...
10:33pm Fri 21 Nov 08

NoWaySeriously wrote:
A percentage is a percentage and goes us accordingly.

You earn £1000 a month, you pay £200 tax. You earn £100,000 a month, you pay £20,000! Why should you have to pay more, just because you earn more?! This whole country is screwed. The rich a paying for the scum to sit around. THe hard working are paying for the scum to watch ITV1 all freakin' day.

20% flat rate. End of.
"Why should you have to pay more, just because you earn more?!"

Er, because you can afford it.

When Income Tax was first invented it was to pay for wars. And it only taxed land owners. It was never meant to affect 85% of the population. Now you pay it if you even only earn £5,000 a year.

Your views are very narrow minded as you seem transfixed on lazy people who take the benefits route. We shouldn't blame them for our tax bands, unless you believe all you read in the Daily Mail. Can you not think of the average tax payer instead?

A proper progressive tax would make 75% of tax payers better off - and that probably includes you unless you earn over £40K a year.

stan bailey, brighton says...
7:07am Sat 22 Nov 08

The rich don't pay tax, they are non doms. Its the the paye employees to prop the layabouts and non doms up. If you are a paye without kids. you are a martyr.

NoWaySeriously, Hove says...
10:01am Sat 22 Nov 08

Fercri Sakes wrote:
NoWaySeriously wrote:
A percentage is a percentage and goes us accordingly.

You earn £1000 a month, you pay £200 tax. You earn £100,000 a month, you pay £20,000! Why should you have to pay more, just because you earn more?! This whole country is screwed. The rich a paying for the scum to sit around. THe hard working are paying for the scum to watch ITV1 all freakin' day.

20% flat rate. End of.But that's not fair, is it? You work hard, you earn more, and you have to give the government 50% of everything you've earned?!

No, it's not fair. a £100,000 a year wage becomes a £50,000 take home? I don't think so.

Arther Daley, all over the manor says...
10:16am Sat 22 Nov 08

NoWaySeriously wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote: NoWaySeriously wrote: A percentage is a percentage and goes us accordingly. You earn £1000 a month, you pay £200 tax. You earn £100,000 a month, you pay £20,000! Why should you have to pay more, just because you earn more?! This whole country is screwed. The rich a paying for the scum to sit around. THe hard working are paying for the scum to watch ITV1 all freakin' day. 20% flat rate. End of.But that's not fair, is it? You work hard, you earn more, and you have to give the government 50% of everything you've earned?! No, it's not fair. a £100,000 a year wage becomes a £50,000 take home? I don't think so.Er.. Ahem The rich do pay more, I say rich in the loosest terms, earn over £34,000 (not a kings ransom) and you pay

40% tax on earnings over that
in addition your VAT spending will be more
tax on savings
more council tax (generally your house is worth more)
9% nat ins


I think we have a perfectly fair tax system,

Jim BB, Brighton says...
10:32am Sat 22 Nov 08

We need to change the benefits system so people have an incentive to work to pay for their own lifestyles, like the rest of us. I'm fed up of paying for other people's takeaways, fags, booze, Sky subscriptions etc when I work over 50 hours a week just to pay my bills. I shouldn't have to pay more tax because others are too lazy to pay for themselves.

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