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Flats bid on historic site is rejected


Controversial plans to demolish a landmark Victorian building and replace it with 150 flats have been thrown out by councillors.

People in the public gallery cheered as Brighton and Hove City Council’s planning committee rejected proposals for the Royal Alexandra Children’s Hospital site in Dyke Road, Brighton.

A second planning application to demolish the current buildings, including the landmark former hospital, was also overwhelmingly refused.

At a meeting at Hove Town Hall yesterday councillors rejected the proposals, with nine voting against, three abstaining and none supporting the plans.

Councillors said they wanted the developer, Taylor Wimpey, to look further into the possibility of retaining the hospital building as part of any new development.

Councillor Paul Steedman said: “Some applications leave me lost for words and this is one of them. There are a cacophony of reasons why we should reject this one.”

After the meeting, Roger Amerena, the chairman of the Montpelier and Clifton Hill Association, said: “This is very good news. We expect the developers to go to appeal, which will give us an even greater opportunity to put our case for the retention of at least some of the original buildings across.”

Officers had recommended both applications be approved, saying the updated Taylor Wimpey development would make good use of the land and the design was appropriate for a conservation area.

The scheme includes 149 flats, a GP surgery and pharmacy, 66 basement parking spaces and 222 cycle parking spaces.

Heloise Brown, of The Victorian Society, said: “We are delighted councillors have voted to prevent this wonderful hospital building from being demolished.

“It is an important part of the history of Brighton and a great asset to the character of the town. This wonderful landmark also enhances the historic conservation area in which it stands.”

The council received 99 letters objecting to the scheme.

Almost 150 people had written in support of plans to relocate the Montpelier Surgery, currently in Victoria Road, to the Royal Alex site.

A spokesman for Taylor Wimpey said: “We are extremely disappointed by the decision.

“The officer’s recommendation had been to support our plans, which were the result of two years’ hard work in consultation with the council.”

Do you agree with the councillors' decision? What should happen to the old Royal Alex hospital site? Tell us below.


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Hove person, Hove says...
4:30pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Well done ! I am so pleased. The overdevelopment is getting to be a joke!

BrightonLawyer, Brighton says...
4:33pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Terrific news! I'm ashamed not to have been at the meeting, but extremely happy with the result. Perhaps Piloti will stop laying into "Skidrow-on-Sea" so much now that the council have shown they're not completely bent on destroying our heritage!

Fercri Sakes, Hove says...
4:47pm Thu 4 Dec 08

What normally happens in these situations is that the buildings 'mysteriously' catch fire, leaving no choice but to demolish it. I really hope that doesn't happen.

harwood, Brighton & Hove says...
5:12pm Thu 4 Dec 08

it is never going to be converted into flats using the original building for the simple reason they would have to be hideously expensive just to cover the cost of the site at purchase ( £11 million I think it was)and the re-development, probably £400k plus for a 2 bed flat!

Actually, I supported the latest plan simply because if you actually look at the design, it is actually rather elegant, and much more in character with the surrounding buildings than the current one!

Fair enough people don't like change, as is evident with complaints about the King Alfred, i360, Brighton Marina, etc etc etc, but if this city is not to become a dated backwater, it's about time we all grew up and smelt the coffee especially with reported revenues for shops way down, tourist staying in hotels down by around 9% (as reported today) and a slowdown everywhere, some good news on investment in the city would be very much welcomed!

No doubt it is again the people in the posh flats, and expensive houses around Dyke Rd complaining, and yes, I live very close by too and see the hospital most days, I wouldn't miss it if it were replaced.

Arther Daley, all over the manor says...
5:38pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Fercri Sakes wrote:
What normally happens in these situations is that the buildings 'mysteriously' catch fire, leaving no choice but to demolish it. I really hope that doesn't happen.
more than likely will become derelict then fall into disrepaer, in steps Wimpy (no not the hamburger firm)

bibble, London (but visit Brighton regularly) says...
6:11pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Well, harwood (5.12 pm), I disagree with a lot you have written.

1. They bought it speculatively without planning permission. Too bad. Some you win, some you lose.

2. Modern buildings are nearly always a lot uglier than the older buildings they replace.

3. Building a load of ugly modern flats will do nothing to encourage people to visit Brighton. Absolutely nothing. The only people who would gain from this "investment" in Brighton are the speculators (see point 1).

4. It is an attractive building. Some people, like yourself, don't appreciate that.

NoWaySeriously, Hove says...
6:36pm Thu 4 Dec 08

...expect a more-than-suspicious fire in the next couple of months...

harwood, Brighton & Hove says...
6:59pm Thu 4 Dec 08

bibble wrote:
Well, harwood (5.12 pm), I disagree with a lot you have written. 1. They bought it speculatively without planning permission. Too bad. Some you win, some you lose. 2. Modern buildings are nearly always a lot uglier than the older buildings they replace. 3. Building a load of ugly modern flats will do nothing to encourage people to visit Brighton. Absolutely nothing. The only people who would gain from this "investment" in Brighton are the speculators (see point 1). 4. It is an attractive building. Some people, like yourself, don't appreciate that.
With regard to your point 4, I live one road away from this building (unlike you), and I think its extremely ugly, as the independent district valuer said in his report, it has been so mucked about with, that little remains of what was originally built, the top floor has a god awful extension which cuts into the structure of the original building, and a lot of the frontage ISN'T original either, and yes I do appreciate good design having an 'proper' architecture degree amongst others thanks very much.

Just because a building is old doesn't mean it's worth saving, especially when the latest proposed development is aesthetically very pleasing.

Now go away back to your smokey dump, London!

Jonathon, Hove says...
7:07pm Thu 4 Dec 08

I hope the building to rented out to The Brighton Housing Trust for their offices and for accommadation for homeless people, but please do not let St Patrick's get their hand on it.

mark newman, worthing says...
9:28am Fri 5 Dec 08

those hoping to save the original buildings, must bear in mind that the councillors who rejected the new scheme, have done so against their own planning officers, who had supported the plans for approval.

Although often unpopular, Planning officers are their to submit their evaluations on planning matters only, and it is expected that councillors listen to their recommendations.

As the reports of the planning officers in this instance were ignored, there will now follow an appeal, which the local authority will have to pay for, as they ignored their officers report, and on appeal, the scheme will be supported, because of the planning officers original view that planning should be granted.

Andrew999, Newhaven says...
9:45am Fri 5 Dec 08

I think this is very shortsighted. What the economy needs now is investment in infrastructure and this development would have provided a number of jobs for workers in Brighton (and additional service jobs usually calculated on a x2.2 basis) which will now not happen.

BBBrighton, Brighton says...
10:59am Fri 5 Dec 08

agreed it's not the prettiest building in the world and although it would be a shame to lose it, it's not architecturally significant and as mentioned is not really in keeping with the rest of the 7dials/montpelier district anyway. I do object to the new plans though on the simple fact that 149 flats is just far too many and provide less than half of these with a parking space is just shortsighted.

freddo, Brighton says...
12:29pm Fri 5 Dec 08

This 'ugly' argument in relation to Victorian buildings has been going on since the 'modernist' 60s - they even wanted to knock St Pancras down for Heaven's sake! Thanks to John Betjeman it was saved and now everyone loves it! Once a Victorian building (or an Art Deco one for that matter) is gone, it's gone for ever. Modern sheds and yuppy hutches will have a much shorter lifespan!

10p, Brighton says...
2:44pm Fri 5 Dec 08

Congratulations councillors on a sensible decision. There are far too many cheapskate developments already in this town.

davyboy, abingdon, oxon says...
9:05pm Fri 5 Dec 08

Fercri Sakes wrote:
What normally happens in these situations is that the buildings 'mysteriously' catch fire, leaving no choice but to demolish it. I really hope that doesn't happen.
like the west pier!!!!!!!!

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