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10:14am Tuesday 23rd December 2008 in News
A restaurant has provoked anger from animal rights campaigners for serving reindeer as part of its Christmas menu.
The delicacy has been put on the menu at Northern Lights in Little East Street, Brighton.
The Scandinavian restaurant, which opened in the summer, is serving sauteed reindeer to its customers for £8.90 a dish.
Meat from the animal – made famous by the Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer Christmas song – is ordered direct from Lapland.
Pauliina Talvensaari, who owns the restaurant with her husband Manu Leppanen, said: “My family are from Lapland and have raised reindeer for years.
They send it direct to us.
“We were a bit hesitant to put it on the menu in England but we have a lot of Scandinavian customers and they have been asking for reindeer.
“It has been going down really well. The meat is very low fat and tastes quite gamey but it’s very distinctive.
“We appreciate it is a bit sensitive because of their link with Santa but it is one of the most ethical meats around because reindeer are allowed to roam free.”
Until eight years ago, few people outside of Lapland had had the chance to taste reindeer soup, reindeer calf kebab or roast reindeer with lingonberries, all traditional dishes of the Sami people.
But things are changing. Ikea is selling reindeer meat to the masses across Europe, with volumes going up each year.
But animal rights campaigners have hit out at the trade.
Denise Friend, of Brighton Animal Action, said: “I just don’t understand what sort of person would eat reindeer – especially at Christmas. Surely there is enough meat on the market without looking for more.
“Reindeer meat is obviously imported too so it is not exactly environmentally friendly. It’s an outrage.”
Justin Kerswell, campaigns manager for vegetarian group Viva!, said: “We are very concerned about the exploitation of wild animals for meat.
“More than 70% of reindeer slaughtered for meat are calves that have grazed during the summer, which means they never even get to see snow.”
However, as more and more people develop a taste for exotic meats, some say demand for reindeer steaks and sausages is only likely to go up.
Walter Murray, director of Scotland-based Kezie Foods, which supplies the exotic meat in the UK, said: “A lot of people are taking reindeer roasts at this time of year.
“We’ve been doing it for about four or five years but it’s growing year on year and this is the busiest we’ve been with it.
“Different things come in and out of fashion but overall, exotic meats are going up and up.”
Would you eat reindeer at Christmas or would the thought of Rudolph put you off? Tell us what you think below.
Comments(102)
Pontop Pike
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10:19am Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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10:24am Tue 23 Dec 08
Dufus
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10:24am Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger
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10:26am Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard wrote:Moron. With an intellect like that you have to wonder about evolution.
It's just an animal..yum yum. What's the big deal...stoopid veggies, plants have feeling too. I support PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals.
Ronald
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10:42am Tue 23 Dec 08
poppy caldwell
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10:50am Tue 23 Dec 08
tinkywinky
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10:50am Tue 23 Dec 08
RickH
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10:55am Tue 23 Dec 08
tinkywinky wrote:Hot dogs, maybe?
Cats and dogs are also traditional dishes to many cultures. Will be seeing puss in soup and rover burgers in the future.
quedula
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10:56am Tue 23 Dec 08
SimonS
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10:57am Tue 23 Dec 08
getreal
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11:14am Tue 23 Dec 08
Nick Brighton
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11:22am Tue 23 Dec 08
Tye
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11:31am Tue 23 Dec 08
Tye
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11:33am Tue 23 Dec 08
Osama bin there
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11:34am Tue 23 Dec 08
SimonS wrote:The voice of reason. If you go to Norway you see huge herds of them in the countryside. Do you think they are there to make the place look pretty?
I'm a veggie but see no problem with this. If people want to eat meat they can. And what's the difference between eating Reindeer and Lamb? Reindeer is hardly on the verge of extinction.
CornishSeagull
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12:06pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Conor
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12:41pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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12:41pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:Err...what's your problem???
Redbeard wrote: It's just an animal..yum yum. What's the big deal...stoopid veggies, plants have feeling too. I support PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals.Moron. With an intellect like that you have to wonder about evolution.
tim e
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12:53pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger
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12:58pm Tue 23 Dec 08
GreenGrocer
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1:04pm Tue 23 Dec 08
mickeyfinn
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1:07pm Tue 23 Dec 08
poppy caldwell wrote:Miles Godfrey has gone off travelling
I ate reindeer once in Finland. It's actually very nice, but a bit tough if you cook it incorrectly. By the way where has Miles Godfrey gone? Him and the quirky stories was the only reason I ever picked up the argus. Poppy
Wivvy Dave
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1:20pm Tue 23 Dec 08
salty_pete
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1:31pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Gabbafella
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1:33pm Tue 23 Dec 08
not your average british chav
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1:38pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Osama bin there
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1:40pm Tue 23 Dec 08
salty_pete wrote:Yes
I've eaten reindeer a number of times, and very nice it is too. But why is it we only see "politicised" veggies complaining and not the cultural veggies eg. Hindus. Is it because they "live and live" and don't have the facist tendencies of the various animal rights movements?
Acheron
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1:49pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger
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2:04pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Osama bin there wrote:Deforestation for one, poor health for the masses another. And thats not even touching on the cruelty aspects. And the name refers to a lolcats site.
salty_pete wrote: I've eaten reindeer a number of times, and very nice it is too. But why is it we only see "politicised" veggies complaining and not the cultural veggies eg. Hindus. Is it because they "live and live" and don't have the facist tendencies of the various animal rights movements?Yes ---and mr cheezburger. What problems do meat eaters cause you, exactly? I'd be thrilled to know. Also, why have a sign-on that indicates a low quality MEAT product, if you are so anti-meat eating? Strange.
Osama bin there
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2:14pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:No deforestation from reindeer I think you'll find. Like sheep, they live outdoors, are genuinely free range and live off what they forage.
Osama bin there wrote:Deforestation for one, poor health for the masses another. And thats not even touching on the cruelty aspects. And the name refers to a lolcats site.
salty_pete wrote: I've eaten reindeer a number of times, and very nice it is too. But why is it we only see "politicised" veggies complaining and not the cultural veggies eg. Hindus. Is it because they "live and live" and don't have the facist tendencies of the various animal rights movements?Yes ---and mr cheezburger. What problems do meat eaters cause you, exactly? I'd be thrilled to know. Also, why have a sign-on that indicates a low quality MEAT product, if you are so anti-meat eating? Strange.
cheezburger
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2:30pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Gabbafella
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2:38pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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2:45pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:Easy tiger...or tiger lily. I only eat free range and usually organic meat so calm down. I don't agree with people just eating veg but you don't here me moaning at you.Technically plants are living entities too so PAH. Each to their own hey. And I am funny...
My problem is meat eaters. And morons like you who think they are funny. Hurry up and choke on it.
cheezburger
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2:48pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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3:00pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:I did not get personal so don’t know why you need to, I can't be bothered arguing with you, life’s too short. You want to be all miserable and dark that’s up to you, maybe if you ate properly you could cheer up a bit. PS, enjoy your nut roast. Now that's funny...come on it has to be a bit.
Yes you are funny but not in a good way, hope you have enough meds for the festive period.
Gabbafella
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3:07pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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3:13pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Gabbafella wrote:Thank you, nice to be appreciated, have a nice xmas.
I think cheezburger is suffering from a severe case of meat deficiency, chill out there swampy! Redbeard, you are kinda funny by the way :-)
Osama bin there
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3:19pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:'Most meat is mass produced'. Yes, of course, just by the fact that it has to feed most of the population, it has to be. But there is a choice, and it's not always down to cost.
You asked me about my problem with meat eating, not reindeer. If all meat was like reindeer, i.e. free range, not pumped full of drugs etc then i might have a different viewpoint. But as most meat is mass produced with appaling conditions, force fed growth drugs etc etc then that is why i find it disgusting.
rudolfeater
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3:46pm Tue 23 Dec 08
NoWaySeriously
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3:57pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:hippie.
Redbeard wrote:Moron. With an intellect like that you have to wonder about evolution.
It's just an animal..yum yum. What's the big deal...stoopid veggies, plants have feeling too. I support PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals.
cheezburger
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4:15pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard wrote:Life's too short? Your's probably will be. No doubt you'll have clogged up arteries and heart disease before long as a result of your diet. But if you want to eat meat that's your funeral ;)
cheezburger wrote: Yes you are funny but not in a good way, hope you have enough meds for the festive period.I did not get personal so don’t know why you need to, I can't be bothered arguing with you, life’s too short. You want to be all miserable and dark that’s up to you, maybe if you ate properly you could cheer up a bit. PS, enjoy your nut roast. Now that's funny...come on it has to be a bit.
cheezburger
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4:16pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Moon Pig
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4:25pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard
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4:34pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:Again, not very nice...I am healthy, I don't smoke, I drink occasionally and exercise regularly, I eat maybe a few portions of meat a week and so far so good. If we never ate meat we would never have evolved, I would like to keep evolving so I continue to put my canine teeth to the use they evolved for. Our bodies can process meat so I am just following nature's course. If you don't want it fine, more for me.
Redbeard wrote:Life's too short? Your's probably will be. No doubt you'll have clogged up arteries and heart disease before long as a result of your diet. But if you want to eat meat that's your funeral ;)cheezburger wrote: Yes you are funny but not in a good way, hope you have enough meds for the festive period.I did not get personal so don’t know why you need to, I can't be bothered arguing with you, life’s too short. You want to be all miserable and dark that’s up to you, maybe if you ate properly you could cheer up a bit. PS, enjoy your nut roast. Now that's funny...come on it has to be a bit.
Moon Pig
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4:43pm Tue 23 Dec 08
A restaurant has provoked anger from animal rights campaigners for serving reindeer as part of its Christmas menu.
cheezburger
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4:44pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Redbeard wrote:You dont know much about evolution clearly. We have molars at the side which are for grinding vegetables. If we we're 'meant' to eat meat we would have much bigger incisors for a starts. our stomachs can't cope well with meat, with it laying in our gut for a day or more. And saying if we never ate meat we wouldnt have evolved is just laughable. Science is not on your side.
cheezburger wrote:Again, not very nice...I am healthy, I don't smoke, I drink occasionally and exercise regularly, I eat maybe a few portions of meat a week and so far so good. If we never ate meat we would never have evolved, I would like to keep evolving so I continue to put my canine teeth to the use they evolved for. Our bodies can process meat so I am just following nature's course. If you don't want it fine, more for me.Redbeard wrote:Life's too short? Your's probably will be. No doubt you'll have clogged up arteries and heart disease before long as a result of your diet. But if you want to eat meat that's your funeral ;)cheezburger wrote: Yes you are funny but not in a good way, hope you have enough meds for the festive period.I did not get personal so don’t know why you need to, I can't be bothered arguing with you, life’s too short. You want to be all miserable and dark that’s up to you, maybe if you ate properly you could cheer up a bit. PS, enjoy your nut roast. Now that's funny...come on it has to be a bit.
cheezburger
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4:53pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Moon Pig wrote:Animal welfare involves the animal being treated as humanely as possible during its life. I.E free range instead of battery farms. Quick death instead of needlessly long etc etc. Isnt it obvious?
Oh, Cheezburger.... I was only reading what the article said..A restaurant has provoked anger from animal rights campaigners for serving reindeer as part of its Christmas menu.What's the difference between animal rights and animal welfare then? Please, do educate us, and perhaps also the Argus as they clearly are not able to differentiate either? You need to take a chill pill - you obviously cannot see when people are trying to wind you up. I would argue that that makes you a bit of a knob, but I'm not here to judge or attack people personally ;) If you have a point to make, which clearly you do, you would be better off doing it in a civil manner so that people might actually listen to anything you're saying, instead of laughing at you getting so angry and petty... It sounds like this is something that is close to your heart, and I'm all for people sticking up for what they believe in... but you will have to accept that other people will have opinions you can't change.. And no, I don't mind which animal I eat as long as it tastes nice... why would I eat something that didn't taste nice?! lol.
Osama bin there
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5:00pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Moon Pig
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5:01pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger wrote:*sigh* If it was obvious, I wouldn't have asked. As it happens, I just googled it and found a website which explains it, so consider that one more person informed lol.
Moon Pig wrote: Oh, Cheezburger.... I was only reading what the article said..Animal welfare involves the animal being treated as humanely as possible during its life. I.E free range instead of battery farms. Quick death instead of needlessly long etc etc. Isnt it obvious? And if you thought the slaughter of millions upon millions of animals was wrong wouldnt you speak out too? And i think its the moronic 'i'll eat any animal' lot that look stupid, not me. And why should i accept other peoples opinions if it doesnt agree with mine? No one on these forums ever has before ;)A restaurant has provoked anger from animal rights campaigners for serving reindeer as part of its Christmas menu.What's the difference between animal rights and animal welfare then? Please, do educate us, and perhaps also the Argus as they clearly are not able to differentiate either? You need to take a chill pill - you obviously cannot see when people are trying to wind you up. I would argue that that makes you a bit of a knob, but I'm not here to judge or attack people personally ;) If you have a point to make, which clearly you do, you would be better off doing it in a civil manner so that people might actually listen to anything you're saying, instead of laughing at you getting so angry and petty... It sounds like this is something that is close to your heart, and I'm all for people sticking up for what they believe in... but you will have to accept that other people will have opinions you can't change.. And no, I don't mind which animal I eat as long as it tastes nice... why would I eat something that didn't taste nice?! lol.
Osama bin there
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5:07pm Tue 23 Dec 08
SimonS
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5:17pm Tue 23 Dec 08
krissie
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5:34pm Tue 23 Dec 08
LLUK80
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5:51pm Tue 23 Dec 08
cheezburger
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5:55pm Tue 23 Dec 08
SimonS wrote:Simple? If only the animals had a voice, im sure they wouldnt see it as simple.
Can I just say not all vegetarians are as rude, agressive and argumentative as cheezburger. If you want to eat meat, do so, I'm not going to judge you. I don't want to eat meat, so I won't. It really is as simple as that IMHO. And I still haven't worked out the difference between Reindeer and any other meet in terms of causing offence. If anyone (including the Argus) does, let me know.
OP8
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6:09pm Tue 23 Dec 08
GreenGrocer
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6:13pm Tue 23 Dec 08
LLUK80 wrote:reindeer (otherwise known as caribou) are not newly acceptable, they have been hunted by humans since mesolithic/neolithic ages.. Norway and Greenland have hunted them CONTINUOUSLY since the ICE AGE, they are still hunted in North America, the Arctic, the Sub Arcit, Inuits and have been domesticated since the Bronze/Iron age in many countries. Eating reindeer is nothing new, and just more rubbish by the Argus to drive up circulation at Xmas with a topical touchy feely awh poor bamby story which a lot of loony muppets will have fallen for.
Aww personally I couldnt eat a raindeer. It does upset me a little as more and more animals become 'acceptable' to eat, and as restaurants rally to become more experimental with what they serve, how long will it be before you see dogs and cats ect on British menus? How far do we really go with it?
GreenGrocer
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6:52pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Guerrero
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6:55pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Jim BB
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7:01pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Osama bin there
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7:12pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Guerrero wrote:That is complete nonsense.
Meat eating is the second biggest cause of cancer behind smoking.So the animals get their own back anyway.
Have a nice xmas tumour.Ho,ho,ho.
Tye
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7:48pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Freerangebeats
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8:43pm Tue 23 Dec 08
scoomer
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8:56pm Tue 23 Dec 08
scoomer
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9:05pm Tue 23 Dec 08
Tye wrote:Erm, Tye, you're thinking of Swift's "A Modest Proposal" - it wasn't a book, it was a satirical essay, and he wrote it as an ironic attack on the middle-class English who kept coming up with stupid suggestions to solve the Anglo-Irish situation.
the chavy rubbish eating morons here do remind me of the stories writen by the author who wrote about lilliput - In the book that's never mentioned he suggested that the poor should breed /have loads of babies so that they could feed the rich any volunteers? using the logic of the idiots here - killing and cooking them would resolve a lot of issues!
MoreMikey
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10:37pm Tue 23 Dec 08
scoomer
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11:04pm Tue 23 Dec 08
nice lady
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12:54am Wed 24 Dec 08
arguschunks
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7:51am Wed 24 Dec 08
RJF
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10:10am Wed 24 Dec 08
GreenGrocer
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11:01am Wed 24 Dec 08
IKDRF
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12:19pm Wed 24 Dec 08
Osama bin there wrote:Before you describe people as Morons you may wish to consider as to wether your own assumptions are correct.
Guerrero wrote: Meat eating is the second biggest cause of cancer behind smoking.So the animals get their own back anyway. Have a nice xmas tumour.Ho,ho,ho.That is complete nonsense. The biggest cause of cancer is your genes - i.e. it's hereditary. There's nothing you can do about it. It's people like you, with a LITTLE science, misquoting statistics to suit their own ends, that really get on my tits. Give me cheezburger any day. At least he (or she) is passionate about what they think. You are just a moron. Why do you live in Alicante in Spain - the home of one of the most barbaric 'sports' in the western world? BULLFIGHTING. Are you doing anything about it, or just enjoying the expat life, surrounded by loads of other ex pat Brits? Lovely.
Chris_73
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1:18pm Wed 24 Dec 08
Chris_73
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Chris_73
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2:14pm Wed 24 Dec 08
Prancer
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CatThe
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CatThe
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Salaneuvos
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Chris_73
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3:37pm Wed 24 Dec 08
Lingonberry
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Sartooppe
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CatThe
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Omnivore
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Sartooppe
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Yannou Puroupoulos
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Pekka
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Salaneuvos
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hopheadmike
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pur
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Guerrero
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11:09pm Wed 24 Dec 08
timppa
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Guerrero
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12:00am Thu 25 Dec 08
Gentleman Jim
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JJF
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Muistinorsu
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Tye
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dave sumner
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dave sumner
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10:06am Fri 26 Dec 08
Nunnuka wrote:Me being oneof them and it is very tasty too. No problem with that. I also DJ there folks and if i may do a short plug, I am spinning funky groovy vinyl there on Saturday 27th circa 7pm onwards.
The essence of the story: Brighton restaurant has reindeer on menu - Good for all its customers!
amyp
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8:34am Sat 27 Dec 08
CaptainStarbucks
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4:30pm Sun 28 Dec 08
Guerrero wrote:I pray you get a nut allergy and die as a result you peasant! Happy choking.
Meat eating is the second biggest cause of cancer behind smoking.So the animals get their own back anyway.
Have a nice xmas tumour.Ho,ho,ho.
gdf666
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10:43pm Mon 29 Dec 08
Tye wrote:like most of the news in this and most of the other Newsquest papers.
In other words NO STORY
Cheese Rolls
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10:52pm Mon 29 Dec 08
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