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Paramedics accused of leaving Brighton man Barry Baker to die


This is the first picture of Barry Baker – the man allegedly left to die in his home by two ambulancemen.

The two paramedics were sent to the 59-year-old's home after he dialled 999 saying he thought he was having a heart attack.

But Mr Baker collapsed while on the phone to operators and when the ambulance crew arrived at his house the landline was still open.

At the other end of the line, operators allegedly heard the medics make derogatory comments about the state of Mr Baker's house in Braybon Avenue in Patcham, Brighton.

A police source reportedly said the paramedics were heard by the operators allegedly saying "words to the effect that he was not worth saving".

The ambulance workers, aged 35 and 44, were arrested on December 5 on suspicion of neglecting to perform a duty in a public office contrary to common law.

Both men have been suspended from their jobs and bailed until next month while a police investigation is carried out.

No charges have yet been brought.

Unmarried Mr Baker worked at JobCentre Plus in Edward Street, Brighton, and was a regular at the Ladies Mile Pub in Mackie Avenue, Patcham.

Last night, Mr Baker's next door neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: "Barry Baker was single and lived alone in the family home of his parents who pre-deceased him a long time ago.

"Barry was my neighbour for the past 24 years. He was a good and kindly soul and possessed a dry sense of humour.

"My wife and I will miss him very much. He was well known by local taxis who carried him to his jobs at the JobCentre.

"He enjoyed a good social life and was fond of an occasional pint. On Sundays, he would have lunch with a friend at the Ladies Mile pub."

Paul Newman, landlord of the Ladies Mile, said Mr Baker was a popular figure.

He said: "He used to come to the pub every Sunday morning at opening time.

"He arrived by bus and met friends here and together they played a few hands of cards.

"He did it every Sunday without fail and was a really nice chap."

Mr Baker's retired neighbour Ralph Virgo expressed his shock at the arrests.

Mr Virgo, 79, said: "We knew something was amiss when a detective came round to see us and asked what we'd seen."

Sussex Police confirmed they arrested the two Brighton-based medics on December 5 - six days after Mr Baker's death.

A spokesman said: "The men, aged 35 and 44 from the Brighton area, have been questioned concerning public office duty of care matters and bailed to a later date in January 2009. No charges have been brought."

A South East Coast Ambulance Service NHS Trust spokeswoman said the service "has suspended two male members of staff from duty as police conduct an investigation".

Mr Baker's funeral has had to be delayed because of the police probe into the ambulancemen's actions but a memorial service was due to take place at All Saints Church in Patcham on January 16.


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Dave At Home, Brighton says...
10:20am Thu 1 Jan 09

There should be no comments as most of what the Argus has printed is hearsay... and what are people going to say in this story that they didn't say on the other one???

The Garden Slug, your Kitchen says...
10:45am Thu 1 Jan 09

These paramedics must come up against this situation all the time where the patient has collapsed, and the phone line is often left open until the ambulance arrives.

I did note the 'steptoe-esque' state of MR Bakers house on the TV news,, but this is a lifestyle choice, and not illegal

Tye, worthing says...
11:11am Thu 1 Jan 09

Dave At Home wrote:
There should be no comments as most of what the Argus has printed is hearsay... and what are people going to say in this story that they didn't say on the other one???
I agree, best to say nothing

Last time I said that the new and rather enthusiastic moderator deleted it

Dear moderator - when are you getting a proper job (like the grown ups?)

Arnie, Shoreham says...
12:11pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Tye wrote:
Dave At Home wrote:
There should be no comments as most of what the Argus has printed is hearsay... and what are people going to say in this story that they didn't say on the other one???
I agree, best to say nothing

Last time I said that the new and rather enthusiastic moderator deleted it

Dear moderator - when are you getting a proper job (like the grown ups?)
When you stop taking yourself so seriously on a message board (like the grown ups).

IKDRF, Laughton says...
1:59pm Thu 1 Jan 09

The Garden Slug wrote:
These paramedics must come up against this situation all the time where the patient has collapsed, and the phone line is often left open until the ambulance arrives. I did note the 'steptoe-esque' state of MR Bakers house on the TV news,, but this is a lifestyle choice, and not illegal
just having my daily look at the news. see you were up late last night commenting and one of the first on this morning-do you have any friends?

Hclarke, Brighton says...
6:16pm Thu 1 Jan 09

I totally disagree with all those who have felt a need to slate the NHS and its staff, I myself as a nurse think its horrible that people think we simply dont care anymore i firmly beleive i had a calling and love my job, we have highly stressful jobs and do it for little pay we obviously are there because we care and love our jobs, this story is all hear say. maybe those who think that we dont give a **** should spend a day working in a busy NHS dept.

newsreader1, brighton says...
9:28pm Thu 1 Jan 09

I agree with Hclarke. This article is simply nonesense. "reportedly, allegedly, words to the effect of". You could actually make up anything and prefix it with one of those. It's a thankless job you wouldn't do for the money, but only if you cared.

newsreader1, brighton says...
9:29pm Thu 1 Jan 09

I agree with Hclarke. This article is simply nonesense. "reportedly, allegedly, words to the effect of". You could actually make up anything and prefix it with one of those. It's a thankless job you wouldn't do for the money, but only if you cared.

newsreader1, brighton says...
9:30pm Thu 1 Jan 09

I agree with Hclarke. This article is simply nonesense. "reportedly, allegedly, words to the effect of". You could actually make up anything and prefix it with one of those. It's a thankless job you wouldn't do for the money, but only if you cared.

Osama bin there, Brighton says...
10:37pm Thu 1 Jan 09

What I would like to know is why this is being reported in the Argus at all.
Ambulancemen have stressful enough jobs anyway, without now having to be extra careful that one of the 999 operators listening on an open line might report them for whatever they might say in the heat of the moment.
They have to make decisions about life and death on a daily basis. If they also make a comment about someone's lifestyle choice it was made in private and should have stayed exactly that - private.

Cheese Rolls, Shoreham says...
11:16pm Thu 1 Jan 09

What they expressed may have been in their mind...that is human...what they DID is another matter and I bet your bottom dollar they did their best. That is the difference. They are professional and can hide their natural feelings. Yes their will be an enquiry...and I have no doubt they WILL have tried their best. People say things they don't mean in the heat of the moment. Does NOT mean they are any less caring or any less life saving. It's banter that gets you through the day++ human nature...and I do NOT care what the rightchouos think they have NEVER had to deal with what the Ambulance, Fire Brigade and Police have to have to. Yes it's their career choice++ thank God for that...some are brave..some are noble...some put their head above the wire. Some tread where Angels fear too.....because of us+++Pathetic whining about traffic misdomenours is just that. I dare ANY of you to spend a night at the back of a police car...we shall see...oh and bear in mind i will know if you did or not.

D360, Brighton says...
2:19am Fri 2 Jan 09

Come on Argus how can you possibly print something "A police source reportedly said"?

Jim BB, Brighton says...
8:02am Fri 2 Jan 09

What we don't know is what state he was in when he was found and I hope that's what they were commenting on. It could be that he simply couldn't survive and they were deciding if to call it or not, not acting as God but being realistic about his situation.

There's is not an easy job and I hope the real truth will out. I think the ambulance staff and paramedics, as well as the hospital teams, I've met have been superb and really cared about their jobs and, whilst tied to a board in A&E waiting to hear if I were paralysed, I've also heard how they've treated others, including a drug-addict who'd tried to kill himself - they do a stellar job and this should be recognised.

The Garden Slug, your Kitchen says...
10:15am Fri 2 Jan 09

IKDRF wrote:
The Garden Slug wrote: These paramedics must come up against this situation all the time where the patient has collapsed, and the phone line is often left open until the ambulance arrives. I did note the 'steptoe-esque' state of MR Bakers house on the TV news,, but this is a lifestyle choice, and not illegal
just having my daily look at the news. see you were up late last night commenting and one of the first on this morning-do you have any friends?
Oh yes, more than you I suspect. I repeat my point that YOU search me out - YOU CHOSE ME ! I may well ask The Argus if they will consider paying me for my insightful comments that cuase others so much pleasure (including you).

Anyway, I have just seen the pictures of this mans house on wwwbrightonhouseclea
rence.co.uk, and what a disgusting tip. How anyone can live like this is beyond me, I know the man is dead, but did he not have nay personal pride or hygene standards?

If the Ambulance men had refused to go in on health and safty grounds alone who could have blamed them?

The Garden Slug, your Kitchen says...
5:42pm Fri 2 Jan 09

IKDRF wrote:
The Garden Slug wrote: These paramedics must come up against this situation all the time where the patient has collapsed, and the phone line is often left open until the ambulance arrives. I did note the 'steptoe-esque' state of MR Bakers house on the TV news,, but this is a lifestyle choice, and not illegal
just having my daily look at the news. see you were up late last night commenting and one of the first on this morning-do you have any friends?
By the way... shut your fat trap!

Osama bin there, Brighton says...
9:45pm Fri 2 Jan 09

The Garden Slug wrote:
IKDRF wrote:
The Garden Slug wrote: These paramedics must come up against this situation all the time where the patient has collapsed, and the phone line is often left open until the ambulance arrives. I did note the 'steptoe-esque' state of MR Bakers house on the TV news,, but this is a lifestyle choice, and not illegal
just having my daily look at the news. see you were up late last night commenting and one of the first on this morning-do you have any friends?
By the way... shut your fat trap!
You're right IDRF. No friends then...

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