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Mixed welcome for new communal bins in Brighton and Hove


The rollout of communal bins across the centre of Brighton and Hove has begun, to mixed reaction from the public.

The council began installing the giant containers in the Regency area yesterday.

The first streets to receive the 600 bins were Norfolk Road, Clifton Terrace, Montpelier Street, Regent Hill, Windlesham Gardens, Preston Street and Clarence Square.

The controversial containers are to be placed in 500 streets during the next six months, affecting 27,000 properties.

Residents of Montpelier and Clifton Hill, one of Brighton's most prized conservation areas, have been among the most vocal opponents of the scheme. Householders in Norfolk Road, the first street to receive communal bins yesterday, fought off attempts to be included in the initial rollout in 2004.

Say no to new bins posters are still pinned to windows of half a dozen homes in the attractive road which leads to Norfolk Square.

As residents awoke to two big, black containers being placed at the bottom of their road yesterday, response to the new arrivals was varied.

The scheme will cost taxpayers £615,000, including a new rubbish truck, but the council estimates that seven years after the bins have been introduced, it will have saved almost £1 million.

The council said the move will pave the way for cleaner streets and follows the success of communal bins in other parts of the city.

The area affected spans most of central Brighton and Hove, from Sackville Road, Hove, to Arundel Road, east Brighton.

Seafront squares such as Lewes Crescent and Brunswick Square have been excluded from the scheme.

Comments(21)

davyboy says...
7:41pm Tue 13 Jan 09

i hope that the next piece of news is not that the binmen are going on strike because the communal bins are too heavy to move. they are unsightly, but should keep the streets cleaner, as no black bags will be left lying about for seagulls to rip open.how long before someone fills one up with old furniture????

GreenGrocer says...
7:56pm Tue 13 Jan 09

davyboy wrote:
i hope that the next piece of news is not that the binmen are going on strike because the communal bins are too heavy to move. they are unsightly, but should keep the streets cleaner, as no black bags will be left lying about for seagulls to rip open.how long before someone fills one up with old furniture????
actually davyboy, they dont get moved at all by hand, the bin lorry picks them up and empties them, like a fork lift, no actual binmen involved as such!

as for furniture in em, it doesn't happen, they have been on my road for a yr without ANY problems, all stuff and nonsence by NIMBY's who don't want them cos their oh so precious regency street might look a bit more common. Idiots.

NoWaySeriously says...
8:10pm Tue 13 Jan 09

get. over. it.

these bins are great. you can dump anything and no-one ever knows and it's not traceable.

so we can go to that 19 cancer joyriders house and put HIM in a bin and no-one will ever know...

minimee says...
10:09pm Tue 13 Jan 09

Once these are forced upon us the local dump won't be so busy thats for sure,drove up lansdowne road today,three piece suite dumped next to bin there,seafront bin by medina house squat always full to overflowing all over the prom.Any narrow seafront roads with cars parked on corner will have collection cancelled as lorries can't fit down them.

alfieconnection says...
10:29pm Tue 13 Jan 09

these bins do have a locking system on the top, i have seen people trying to dump trade waste, only to be frustrated by the top locking bar in place. unsightly yes, but an advantage over black bin spillage all over the place. somewhere for the dossers to kip in as well, a roof over their heads and secure. well done brighton council, multi-tasking.

stan bailey says...
10:41pm Tue 13 Jan 09

davyboy wrote:
i hope that the next piece of news is not that the binmen are going on strike because the communal bins are too heavy to move. they are unsightly, but should keep the streets cleaner, as no black bags will be left lying about for seagulls to rip open.how long before someone fills one up with old furniture????
Why don't you concern yourself with what is going on in Abingdon. It is the same with the football stadium, people from miles away keep telling us how to live our lives. Do you have these bins in Abingdon?

feline1 says...
11:14pm Tue 13 Jan 09

thank goodness I'm getting a communal bin on my street at last.
Now I can put my rubbish in it when *I* want, instead of having to leave it festering in my kitchen until a Monday.
YEO!!!!!!!!!

gunnke says...
6:25am Wed 14 Jan 09

We have had communal bins in the area that I live in for the past couple of years.
On the whole, I consider the scheme to have been a success. There are no black bags left outside for seagulls and foxes to attack and this has lead to the street that I live being far cleaner and litter free. In addition to this, I live in a block of flats and the stairwell is no longer cluttered with bin and rubbish bags.
The only down side that I have seen is that these bins are prone to fly-tippng. One morning as I was on my way to work, I noticed an old sofa sticking out of one of the communal bins in our road.
The Council and City Clean will need to carefully monitor this.

Made In Sussex says...
8:54am Wed 14 Jan 09

Listen to Stan Bailey everyone!, poor guy still doesnt realise that there is a word outside of the boundaries of Brighton. Not forgetting that the Argus is sold outside of Brighton and that this is the World Wide Web..dear me!

Peter Courtney says...
9:12am Wed 14 Jan 09

At last a glimmer of waste-collection sanity. In Spain, communal bins have been the norm for years, and they are emptied every night. Easier for the householder and binmen and much greener!

bbrh says...
9:20am Wed 14 Jan 09

No problem, should be rolled out city wide as in spain as well as communcal recylcing containers to get rid of all the overflowing black boxes all over the street

Moon Pig says...
10:22am Wed 14 Jan 09

LOL, I really don't get what the issue is. A few bins in the road, or rubbish everywhere all week? Know which I'd choose.
Those complaining about parking spaces really ought to consider whether they need a car in the middle of the City.
As for the fly tipping, if they're going to fly tip at least it's in a bin and not all over the street! The skanks will fly tip where ever they like, bins or not, it doesn't just happen in communal bin areas.....

Txa says...
10:22am Wed 14 Jan 09

'communal recycling containers'

bbrh, great idea, especially for the streets where we haven't got the recycling black boxes yet.8)

Wilftop says...
10:51am Wed 14 Jan 09

I hope they bring them out in Hanover, the ammount of lazy people there is unbelievable. They leave rubbish out all week & leave them when they have been split open. The worst is those who have bins & boxes outside thier house all the time, so the pavement is even more narrow than normal.

I only put the bin out on the day of collection. Funny as I have the same size garden & basement as everybody else, I'm not lazy. Pride in the way we keep our streets has declined & I'm only 29. The streets will look cleaner once we get them.

Whats the loss of a few car parking spaces, once the permit parking comes in there will be more room & plenty of space for the bins, you only need to look at the Christmas holiday to see how many cars parked in Hanover don't belong to residents.

Not to everybodys liking but you can't please everybody, if it helps keep the strrets cleaner than they alredy are then I'm all for them.


bbrh says...
11:19am Wed 14 Jan 09

It would be great if people regained pride in thier street and took responsibility rather than looking to the council to do everything. My lovely, retired, next door neighbours often sweep up outside their home and I am constantly picking up dropped litter. Do more for ourselves and we can then legitimately ask the council to reduce council tax!?!

davyboy says...
12:26pm Wed 14 Jan 09

Made In Sussex wrote:
Listen to Stan Bailey everyone!, poor guy still doesnt realise that there is a word outside of the boundaries of Brighton. Not forgetting that the Argus is sold outside of Brighton and that this is the World Wide Web..dear me!
i agree. stan should stop telling people how to live their lives. i am allowed to comment, the same as he could comment in the oxford mail if he so wished. as an ex-brightonian, i feel that i have a right to make my point, and this may be of concern to me if i decide to return in the future. i think he must be 'garden slug' in disguise.

Txa says...
12:50pm Wed 14 Jan 09

bbrh wrote:
It would be great if people regained pride in thier street and took responsibility rather than looking to the council to do everything. My lovely, retired, next door neighbours often sweep up outside their home and I am constantly picking up dropped litter. Do more for ourselves and we can then legitimately ask the council to reduce council tax!?!
We used to sweep outside and the stairs until the council decided to charge us for the service without previous consultation, we still clean the stairs windows. Any extra services we expect it will came at a price, but many people don't have to pay so don't care (IMO).

BrightonBoy says...
9:46pm Wed 14 Jan 09

we have had them in 7 dials from the start and they work - lost a few parking spaces which was a night mare but then that settled down and parking is not great but can get a space which suggests people were parking in the road I live in when they dont live in this road.

As for the comments around fly tipping - when they first came in a couple of years ago we had a lot of furtniture building up around them and still do sometimes - to combat this the council have a cage lorry that drives around during the day collecting this - overall - good move as area is cleaner and you dispose of your rubbish when you want.

On the litter / rubbish problem - its the people dumping it in the street thats the problem partly and partly the councils collection rotas with the left wing work force.

bored_of_the_sound_of_your_voice says...
11:01pm Wed 14 Jan 09

Clearly in an ideal world, we wouldn't have to look at rubbish bins. But ideal world it aint. The city centre clearly needs these bins, when they trialled them in Seven Dials (where I used to live) it cleaned up the streets, ok, so a bit of flytipping, but as long as the council works quickly to get it moved, who cares. You can't blame the council for flytipping - I don't expect it is them that do it! And if we lose parking spaces and make it harder for people to drive - brilliant!

CaptainStarbucks says...
11:48pm Thu 15 Jan 09

Wilftop wrote:
I hope they bring them out in Hanover, the ammount of lazy people there is unbelievable. They leave rubbish out all week & leave them when they have been split open. The worst is those who have bins & boxes outside thier house all the time, so the pavement is even more narrow than normal.

I only put the bin out on the day of collection. Funny as I have the same size garden & basement as everybody else, I'm not lazy. Pride in the way we keep our streets has declined & I'm only 29. The streets will look cleaner once we get them.

Whats the loss of a few car parking spaces, once the permit parking comes in there will be more room & plenty of space for the bins, you only need to look at the Christmas holiday to see how many cars parked in Hanover don't belong to residents.

Not to everybodys liking but you can't please everybody, if it helps keep the strrets cleaner than they alredy are then I'm all for them.

I agree, they're all too busy rinsing out their Mooncups, trying to put little Star on their bike to take her to school, or trying to close another shop (Starbucks) in St James's St, not being content with the closure of The Saint, Love's and Clone Zone in the past month. Why not close it and leave it empty like a load of other shops. That will make the Ludites happy.

lulu_153 says...
7:47pm Fri 30 Jan 09

I think the bins are a great idea but my only complaint is that you need to have both hands free and be quite tall in order to use them properly. I prefer the original bins with the food pedal as they dont require you to have either hold the lid open or climb on top of the bin in order to close the lid! Plus the door slams down on your hand if you arent careful

Other than that, way much better than having to wait a week to get your rubbish collected


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