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10:26am Saturday 17th January 2009
An arms factory was broken into overnight.
Police said the trespassers caused "extensive damage" at EDO MBM Technology in Moulsecoomb.
They were called at 1.50am today.
A spokesman for Sussex Police said: "A number of arrests have been made and inquiries are continuing."
The factory has been the focus of regular demonstrations since 2004 by the Smash EDO group, which aims to close the factory down.
The campaigners claim the firm makes components used by Israel in its conflict in Gaza.
Two protests last year ended in violent confrontations with the police.
Police are asking anyone who saw anything suspicious at the factory in Home Farm Road, Moulsecoomb, this morning is asked to call Sussex Police quoting Operation Potato on 0845 6070999 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.
oyl, Brighton says...
10:48am Sat 17 Jan 09
stan bailey, brighton says...
10:57am Sat 17 Jan 09
stickman, Portslade says...
11:19am Sat 17 Jan 09
The Garden Slug, your Kitchen says...
11:21am Sat 17 Jan 09
stickman, Portslade says...
11:44am Sat 17 Jan 09
googoo, brighton says...
11:45am Sat 17 Jan 09
Scoomer, Moulsecoomb says...
11:50am Sat 17 Jan 09
stan bailey, brighton says...
11:53am Sat 17 Jan 09
stickman wrote:I thought they were raiding it because of Israels attacks on Gaza, as they appear to believe Islamic attacks are Ok on Israel, my point is that we do not like Islamic attacks on out underground and buses
You've tried to simplify Stan but got it wrong. Breaking into factories is a criminal act, bombing buses and trains is a criminal act - both should be punished. If it is decided that Israel has overreacted to Hamas aggression then they should be punished too.
Ronald, Hailsham says...
12:02pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
12:28pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Spuddy, Southwick says...
12:42pm Sat 17 Jan 09
SandraSandra, Brighton says...
1:04pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
1:40pm Sat 17 Jan 09
SandraSandra wrote:I agree with everything you say - apart from the last sentence. How is it EDO's fault what the Israelis are doing in Gaza?
Whilst the people of Gaza have been slaughtered in their homes, schools and mosques world leaders have stood by and done nothing. Israel is committing war crimes. We can choose to stand by and do nothing or take action to stop this massacre. All over the world people are out on the street protesting. In Greece the ports refused to handle US arms shipments to Israel. Israeli companies are reporting that orders for their goods are being cancelled as international civil society takes action to boycott the brutal apartheid regime in Israel. We can all do something to support the people of Gaza. Well done to the 'decommissioners' for the contribution they have made.
feline1, Brighton says...
2:27pm Sat 17 Jan 09
GreenGrocer, Brighton & Hove says...
2:34pm Sat 17 Jan 09
feline1, Brighton says...
2:41pm Sat 17 Jan 09
GreenGrocer, Brighton & Hove says...
2:47pm Sat 17 Jan 09
feline1 wrote:lol, oh fair enough!
Er, Hamas were VOTED into power in Gaza by an election, just as the IRA were VOTED into their Northern Ireland assembly seats, which IRA Grand-High-Commander -of-teh-Fleets Martin Maguinness currently Deputy First Minister. Does this mean we can bomb Belfast? I hope so! lol SPIDE CULL!
feline1, Brighton says...
3:19pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Dave At Home, Brighton says...
4:07pm Sat 17 Jan 09
MorrisonMorrison, Brighton says...
4:53pm Sat 17 Jan 09
bibble, London (but visit Brighton regularly) says...
6:11pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
6:24pm Sat 17 Jan 09
MorrisonMorrison wrote:'Arms factories not welcome in Brighton'.
"Demonstration fine", effecively stopping this arms factory from functioning and in doing so contributing to the rising death toll in Gaza 'unBritish'? I have felt very impotent seeing new unspeakable atrocities being committed every day (mostly unreported on mainstream news channels), attending demonstrations and being ignored by politicians, misrepresented in the media, and indiscriminately attacked by the police who's function it is to protect (corporate) property over people. It is time for urgent action. Arms factories not welcome in Brighton. Very well done.
feline1, Brighton says...
7:45pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Guerrero, Alicante says...
8:49pm Sat 17 Jan 09
Old Ale Man, Woodingdean says...
9:02pm Sat 17 Jan 09
GreenGrocer, Brighton & Hove says...
10:49pm Sat 17 Jan 09
feline1 wrote:feline, you have completely the WRONG END OF THE STICK! I was talking about your comment about Hamas being voted in, not the rest of it! LOL!!!!!
Nonsense, Greengrocer- Martin Maguinness was RIGHT to murder all those people, it was a VALID POLITICAL STATEMENT on his part, and why all IRA convicts were released from prison under the Good Friday Agreement. You sound to me like an ENEMY OF THE PEACE PROCESS! :)
brooksby, Brooksby says...
12:22am Sun 18 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
8:46am Sun 18 Jan 09
brooksby wrote:They don't. Read my previous posts.
Many of us have been deeply saddened by the treatment of the Palestinians over the past 40 years. Deprived of much of their homeland,tricked out of most of their water supplies, and finding themselves stateless second class citizens. This latest attack on Gaza is just the latest in a long history of violence stretching back into pre-history. Violence of both sides begets more violence. Northern Ireland shows that only forgiveness can bring peace. Why should Brighton jobs depend on perpetuating conflict in the Holy Land?
oyl, Brighton says...
9:07am Sun 18 Jan 09
brooksby wrote:Why should ignorant thugs wreck a factory because of tenuous and invented contentions with their beliefs? They are not targetting their efforts logically. Politicians perpetuate the conflict - not manufacturers of bits that get used in bits that get used in bits in fighter aircraft. Isn't that obvious?
Many of us have been deeply saddened by the treatment of the Palestinians over the past 40 years. Deprived of much of their homeland,tricked out of most of their water supplies, and finding themselves stateless second class citizens. This latest attack on Gaza is just the latest in a long history of violence stretching back into pre-history. Violence of both sides begets more violence. Northern Ireland shows that only forgiveness can bring peace. Why should Brighton jobs depend on perpetuating conflict in the Holy Land?
Mr nothing head, Brighton says...
1:18pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Osama bin there wrote:Erm, they do depend on middle eastern conflict to keep them in business. They sell weapons components to Israel- therefore the jobs there do depend on that conflict. If there was none, the factory would not exist.
brooksby wrote:They don't. Read my previous posts.
Many of us have been deeply saddened by the treatment of the Palestinians over the past 40 years. Deprived of much of their homeland,tricked out of most of their water supplies, and finding themselves stateless second class citizens. This latest attack on Gaza is just the latest in a long history of violence stretching back into pre-history. Violence of both sides begets more violence. Northern Ireland shows that only forgiveness can bring peace. Why should Brighton jobs depend on perpetuating conflict in the Holy Land?
oyl, Brighton says...
1:30pm Sun 18 Jan 09
SmashEDO, Bournemouth says...
1:48pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Mr nothing head, Brighton says...
2:12pm Sun 18 Jan 09
oyl wrote:Germany are not a private company making weapons systems on our doorsteps that are used in illegal wars so, no, I don't suggest we 'wreck them'.
"By the way, ITT had great relationships with Hitler, Franco, Pinochet and continue to have with plenty of other corrupt, fascistic and tyrannical reigimes. Keep on sticking up for them!"
So did Germany. Should we now wreck Germany again?
Some individuals will celebrate activism for its own twisted sake. Nothing can make their cause right, and the weak arguments above just expose their silliness.
Fortunately, the vast majority of Brightonians dismiss them as nutters - that's all it needs in the end.
Matty B, Shoreham by Sea says...
5:04pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Matty B, Shoreham by Sea says...
5:22pm Sun 18 Jan 09
william of orange, Brighton says...
5:46pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Mr nothing head wrote:
Osama bin there wrote:Erm, they do depend on middle eastern conflict to keep them in business. They sell weapons components to Israel- therefore the jobs there do depend on that conflict. If there was none, the factory would not exist. Check out EDO/MBM's own website, the front page has lots of pictures of bombs and fighter jets on it. Does that really look like they want to give the impression they're a company that primarily manufactures systems for 'civilian aircraft', as you say? There is more than enough evidence of them supplying components to the Israeli Air Force, components which are essential to them being able to drop bombs and fire missiles and in turn murder civilians in the Gaza Strip. Israel are categorically committing war crimes in Gaza, war crimes that would not be possible without these systems. What these activists have done is to step in where the police and government won't, to stop these systems being made and crimes taking place. EDO's directors are aware of where their products are going and what they're being used for and are thus complicit in, and profiting from, war crimes. The Raytheon 9 were aquitted for causing substantial damage to an arms factory because products made there were being used in an illegal war when Israel attacked Lebanon, read up on them. You call these people 'rent-a-mob' but if they're willing to be arrested and quite obviously risk their personal liberty because they feel so strongly about something then it's clear your 'rent-a-mob' accusation is loaded nonsense. By the way, ITT had great relationships with Hitler, Franco, Pinochet and continue to have with plenty of other corrupt, fascistic and tyrannical reigimes. Keep on sticking up for them! Peaceful protest does not work and our version of 'democracy' is an illusion. I give my support to those involved in taking this action and hope very much they will be aquitted.brooksby wrote: Many of us have been deeply saddened by the treatment of the Palestinians over the past 40 years. Deprived of much of their homeland,tricked out of most of their water supplies, and finding themselves stateless second class citizens. This latest attack on Gaza is just the latest in a long history of violence stretching back into pre-history. Violence of both sides begets more violence. Northern Ireland shows that only forgiveness can bring peace. Why should Brighton jobs depend on perpetuating conflict in the Holy Land?They don't. Read my previous posts.
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
6:31pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Matty B wrote:Look, I have no time for religious extremism on either side. But I know quite a bit about the formation of the state of Israel, by the British government of the time.
Sorry, yet another recent one! From Avi Shlaim...
'In the three years after the withdrawal from Gaza, 11 Israelis were killed by rocket fire. On the other hand, in 2005-7 alone, the IDF killed 1,290 Palestinians in Gaza, including 222 children.'
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/world/2009/jan
/07/gaza-israel-pale
stine
bibble, London (but visit Brighton regularly) says...
6:36pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Sim1, Brighton says...
6:46pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
8:00pm Sun 18 Jan 09
Sim1 wrote:Yes, but if it wasn't EDO it would be someone else. They aren't bombing anyone, and the stuff they produce is electronic, not the warhead.
Osama BT:-
Unfortunately components that were manufactured at EDO have been found in the remains of munitions targeting civilian areas during the bombing of Lebanon 2 years ago.
Also Jane's Defence Weekly list EDO as a supplier to the Israeli military.
If EDO would convert tomorrow to making civilian electronics, as other factories have done in the past then these protests would stop.
Sim1, Brighton says...
9:11pm Sun 18 Jan 09
william of orange, Brighton says...
9:19pm Sun 18 Jan 09
bibble wrote:
William of Orange, Peaceful protest rarely works. It is why countries have armed forces. You can talk forever (protest) but get nowhere. Might is right. History has shown that over and over. It is no different for those people who have broken into EDO.
PB, Steyning says...
8:53am Mon 19 Jan 09
Carl Bugenhagen, West Pier says...
9:05am Mon 19 Jan 09
spongebobtrianglepants, eastbourne says...
6:46pm Mon 19 Jan 09
spongebobtrianglepants, eastbourne says...
6:55pm Mon 19 Jan 09
Ronald wrote:because ronald smash edo have there facts wrong as usual if what they say is true security would be tight there !
So how come an 'arms' factory, and a scene of previous demos and mindless vandalism was such a soft target as to allow these morons easy access? Cost of security getting in the way of profit?
WSGP, Worthing says...
9:13pm Mon 19 Jan 09
Osama bin there, Brighton says...
10:31am Tue 20 Jan 09
Sim1, Brighton says...
12:17pm Tue 20 Jan 09
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oyl, Brighton says...
10:40am Sat 17 Jan 09
Extensive damage could translate to job losses in Brighton.
The protestors have their own agenda, and it's nothing to do with their anti-war facade.