Protesters block Iraqi deportations (From The Argus)

These people are Soooo naive!! They have very little idea about the real world. These people are from Iraq and belong in Iraq. These protesters just need to ask themselves, if these people were genuine refugees, why did they not claim asylum in Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, France etc etc, countries which they almost certainly traveled through on there way to the UK???? House, Benefits, NHS etc etc... i wonder?? Asylum, The First Safe Country, which the UK is most certainly not.

Bleedin' Heart liberals. Kick them out - we dont want them - we have no jobs - GO NOW

Liberal lefties,please leave our Country and emigrate to the Countries you are supporting.Lets see if you get the same welcome.

If all you fascists enjoy fascism so much, why don't you go live in Austria instead of stinking up the streets of England, hmmm?

No one is a Fascist Feline1 (go look the word up - you might learn what it means). These people have no right whatsoever to be here and should be deported. We are overcrowded and cannot continue to provide homes for people who have no connection with this country. As Alan says, why do they come here? Why don't they seek asylum in another Arab-speaking country? Becaue they'd be turned back at the border/airport. But then those countries are all Fascist in you eyes are they not?

tilburyre wrote:
No one is a Fascist Feline1 (go look the word up - you might learn what it means). These people have no right whatsoever to be here and should be deported. We are overcrowded and cannot continue to provide homes for people who have no connection with this country. As Alan says, why do they come here? Why don't they seek asylum in another Arab-speaking country? Becaue they'd be turned back at the border/airport. But then those countries are all Fascist in you eyes are they not?

Iraqis "have no connection to this country"? How soon we forget eh?

Im shocked by the ignorance expressed here, but thankyou for supplying me with great examples of the shocking discrimination towards people seeking refuge in this wealthy country, i will use these debate comments in a training session to show the current prejudice.

If you had any understanding of the system you would realise that when seeking asylum you have no access to work or use the nhs...goverment policy. And the scrutiny that you have to under go to get status in this county in unbelievable and very few get it, and even when you have papers to say you are to be arrested on return, and have torture wounds you still are unlikely to get refugee status here.

So when making uncompassionate comments from your computor, in your warm house, with copious amounts of food, in a country where your safe, know the facts, and realise all of out ancestors were immigrants once.

P.S Without immigrants we would have no NHS!

Hanna I’m afraid you are delusional. Asylum seekers on arrival are placed in government funded accommodation and are immediately placed on benefits; they are also entitled to use the NHS for treatment. You are right they are not permitted to work, but you will find that the vast majority are in fact working illegally. Your comment regarding no immigrants no NHS is also flawed as we have thousands of newly qualified doctors and nurses who there are currently no vacancies. The majority of immigrants who work in the NHS are cleaners and HCA's.... I wonder why our Hospitals are so poorly cleaned???
You also failed to explain why these people fail to make there Asylum Claims in the other countries they pass through on there way to the UK?? Oh Hanna, i would'nt believe everything you read in the papers, or be trusting enough to believe that government policy is enforced!!

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Hanna I’m afraid you are delusional. Asylum seekers on arrival are placed in government funded accommodation and are immediately placed on benefits; they are also entitled to use the NHS for treatment. You are right they are not permitted to work, but you will find that the vast majority are in fact working illegally. Your comment regarding no immigrants no NHS is also flawed as we have thousands of newly qualified doctors and nurses who there are currently no vacancies. The majority of immigrants who work in the NHS are cleaners and HCA's.... I wonder why our Hospitals are so poorly cleaned??? You also failed to explain why these people fail to make there Asylum Claims in the other countries they pass through on there way to the UK?? Oh Hanna, i would'nt believe everything you read in the papers, or be trusting enough to believe that government policy is enforced!!

Asylum seekers are NOT "placed on benefits". They have not been entitled to benefits for years. So who's delusional?

Poor cleaning standards in the NHS arise from years of contracting out to the lowest bidding private companies - nothing to do with immigrants. But the far-right never wants to talk about things like privatisation and economic inequality because it wouldn't fit in with their immigrant-scapegoati
ng agenda.

Maybe Iraqis come here because they have this strange notion that we owe them something after we helped to flatten their country and turn it into a sectarian hell-hole?

I believe you are the delusional and have proberly never met/spoke to anyone seeking asylum, and just believe the goverment propaganda. Yes whilst your asylum claim is going through you are givin a room and vouchers to eat, but once it is declined, like 80-90% are, this is taken off you. Then you are left in poverty or placed in detention, detention being prisons full of people whom have not broken the law, and where there is mass suicide and ill treatment, and children and families, as prisons are so full for actual uk criminals, why dont we use these unlawful prisons for them? It costs £1300/wk to keep someone in detention, and some of them ae in there years, and masses of people in there live in countries they cannot be returned to, so why not let them out, let them work and pay taxes, contribute, unlike most uk nations who regularly abuse the system.

Look at the nationality of the Doctors, Africans, Asian are you blind. And without Jamaican midwifes most of us would not be here. Transport....? Nursing....? Carework....?Cleanin
g...?Crop picking?We thrive on immigration, most uk nationals think they are above basic jobs, and would rather claim benefits.

Immigration contributes massively to the ecconomy...look at the visa prices, the higher taxes the price for international students.

This is the reality, people are quick to blame the blameless, look closer to home, these are who are draining the system.

There are people that come directly here, and people that claim asylum in other countries, you seem very blinkered, you've obviously been reading the Daily Mail!

Hannah C wrote:
Im shocked by the ignorance expressed here, but thankyou for supplying me with great examples of the shocking discrimination towards people seeking refuge in this wealthy country, i will use these debate comments in a training session to show the current prejudice. If you had any understanding of the system you would realise that when seeking asylum you have no access to work or use the nhs...goverment policy. And the scrutiny that you have to under go to get status in this county in unbelievable and very few get it, and even when you have papers to say you are to be arrested on return, and have torture wounds you still are unlikely to get refugee status here. So when making uncompassionate comments from your computor, in your warm house, with copious amounts of food, in a country where your safe, know the facts, and realise all of out ancestors were immigrants once. P.S Without immigrants we would have no NHS!

Hannah, go and get back to your Birkenstock sandals, Bowl of museli, and kaftans.

This is not a waelthy country, mearly a bankrupt one. As the cartoon character Popeye once said "thats all I can takes I cant takes na more"

I love it when people come on these boards spouting common misconceptions and recycled tripe. If Asylum Seekers don't get Benefits, please inform me what the National Asylum Support Service is for Andy and explain why Asylum seekers turn up at my local post office with there Immigration cards and receive cash after handing them over? Look it up on the World Wide Web. Once again you have failed to explain why "Asylum seekers" (aka economic migrants) cross the globe, passing illegally through dozens of safe countries, where they should be claiming asylum but instead keep going to the UK. Use Calais as a glaring example of this at the

Hanna, i think we are getting our wires crossed here. The Doctors and Midwives and Nurses you are talking about have come to this country legally and are recognised as being of benefit to the UK and re therefore allowed to remain, and rightly so. The Iraq's that this debate centres around, have forced there way illegally into the country, which is a criminal offence. Despite their contempt for UK law, the government has still entertained their application for asylum and all there subsequent frivolous appeals and HRA appeals, which have now been dismissed and as such they must be forcibly deported from the UK as they have no lawful basis to remain in the UK. Whether you like it or not, they are criminals and there presence in the UK in no longer appropriate, they have to go.

Alan G Skinner wrote:
I love it when people come on these boards spouting common misconceptions and recycled tripe. If Asylum Seekers don't get Benefits, please inform me what the National Asylum Support Service is for Andy and explain why Asylum seekers turn up at my local post office with there Immigration cards and receive cash after handing them over? Look it up on the World Wide Web. Once again you have failed to explain why "Asylum seekers" (aka economic migrants) cross the globe, passing illegally through dozens of safe countries, where they should be claiming asylum but instead keep going to the UK. Use Calais as a glaring example of this at the

Support from NASS doesn't even come close to subsistence level. Asylum seekers are NOT eligible for benefits in any meaningful sense of the word. They cannot get any social security benefits. You may wish to blur the distinction in order to feed the general level of ignorance - I don't.

And whilst I know that some people seem to think that the UK exists in a separate solar system, it is in fact a comparitively short flight from the Middle East. And I look forward to a list of the "dozens" of countries to which you refer.

Hannah C is talking out of her a**e. If the so called asylum seekers knew they would not be given everything on a plate in this country, would they be queuing up in France waiting thier chance to get here? I don't think so. There are enough layabouts being kept here without taking on the worlds scroungers too.

The Cowley Club mob got a coach up then.

Hannah C wrote:
I believe you are the delusional and have proberly never met/spoke to anyone seeking asylum, and just believe the goverment propaganda. Yes whilst your asylum claim is going through you are givin a room and vouchers to eat, but once it is declined, like 80-90% are, this is taken off you. Then you are left in poverty or placed in detention, detention being prisons full of people whom have not broken the law, and where there is mass suicide and ill treatment, and children and families, as prisons are so full for actual uk criminals, why dont we use these unlawful prisons for them? It costs £1300/wk to keep someone in detention, and some of them ae in there years, and masses of people in there live in countries they cannot be returned to, so why not let them out, let them work and pay taxes, contribute, unlike most uk nations who regularly abuse the system. Look at the nationality of the Doctors, Africans, Asian are you blind. And without Jamaican midwifes most of us would not be here. Transport....? Nursing....? Carework....?Cleanin g...?Crop picking?We thrive on immigration, most uk nationals think they are above basic jobs, and would rather claim benefits. Immigration contributes massively to the ecconomy...look at the visa prices, the higher taxes the price for international students. This is the reality, people are quick to blame the blameless, look closer to home, these are who are draining the system. There are people that come directly here, and people that claim asylum in other countries, you seem very blinkered, you've obviously been reading the Daily Mail!

Hannah, you would soon be bleating if a family of Iraqui immigrants were housed next door to you and it wiped 10% off the value of your home - wouldnt you? or anyone else.

Its simple, there are not enough jobs or enough money for the people that are here, let alone more and more.

Immigrants seek English refugee status for one reason alone - we are a soft touch. Nothing more nothing less!

Hannah C wrote:
I believe you are the delusional and have proberly never met/spoke to anyone seeking asylum, and just believe the goverment propaganda. Yes whilst your asylum claim is going through you are givin a room and vouchers to eat, but once it is declined, like 80-90% are, this is taken off you. Then you are left in poverty or placed in detention, detention being prisons full of people whom have not broken the law, and where there is mass suicide and ill treatment, and children and families, as prisons are so full for actual uk criminals, why dont we use these unlawful prisons for them? It costs £1300/wk to keep someone in detention, and some of them ae in there years, and masses of people in there live in countries they cannot be returned to, so why not let them out, let them work and pay taxes, contribute, unlike most uk nations who regularly abuse the system. Look at the nationality of the Doctors, Africans, Asian are you blind. And without Jamaican midwifes most of us would not be here. Transport....? Nursing....? Carework....?Cleanin g...?Crop picking?We thrive on immigration, most uk nationals think they are above basic jobs, and would rather claim benefits. Immigration contributes massively to the ecconomy...look at the visa prices, the higher taxes the price for international students. This is the reality, people are quick to blame the blameless, look closer to home, these are who are draining the system. There are people that come directly here, and people that claim asylum in other countries, you seem very blinkered, you've obviously been reading the Daily Mail!

Quite right hannah, let as many iraqi immigrants in as possible. why not give them a vote as well.

when they and their islamic fundamentalist friends are the majority and we are the minority. then you will see some fun!

after sharia law gets voted in,

all women forced to wear burkas.

state education for women? forget it!

women having a career of their own? not on!

women bosses? not a snowballs chance in hell!

women treated as inferiors? absolutely!

and thats just for starters!

is this what you really want? because that is where it could very easily end up.

before you say it, i am not a member of the national front. i have mentioned the islamic faith because'
according to the "Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life" Islam is the fastest-growing religion in Europe, and is forecasted to have a similar or higher rate of growth in the coming decades.
According to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the World Christian Database as of 2007 estimated that the fastest growing of the five largest religions in the world by percentage to be Islam (1.84%).

i am not racist but i dont want my child growing up as an outcast in a islamic extremist britain either

Andy R wrote:

Alan G Skinner wrote: I love it when people come on these boards spouting common misconceptions and recycled tripe. If Asylum Seekers don't get Benefits, please inform me what the National Asylum Support Service is for Andy and explain why Asylum seekers turn up at my local post office with there Immigration cards and receive cash after handing them over? Look it up on the World Wide Web. Once again you have failed to explain why "Asylum seekers" (aka economic migrants) cross the globe, passing illegally through dozens of safe countries, where they should be claiming asylum but instead keep going to the UK. Use Calais as a glaring example of this at the

Support from NASS doesn't even come close to subsistence level. Asylum seekers are NOT eligible for benefits in any meaningful sense of the word. They cannot get any social security benefits. You may wish to blur the distinction in order to feed the general level of ignorance - I don't. And whilst I know that some people seem to think that the UK exists in a separate solar system, it is in fact a comparitively short flight from the Middle East. And I look forward to a list of the "dozens" of countries to which you refer.

Andy with all due respect, you have made my point for me. You talk about the comparitively short flight from the middle east to the UK, but that is my point, they should be travelling to Turkey. Having said that i would place a huge bet that not one of these nationals of Iraq came here by air. The would have entered the UK in the back of a lorry, most probably via Calais. To do this they would have travelled through Turkey, Greece, Albania, Italy, Belgium and France. This is one routing and that is six potential destinations where they could have made their asylum application. Once again lets not forget these bogus asylum applications have been carefully considered, processed with thousands of pounds in tax payers money and have been found to be manefestly unfounded. Why should they be allowed to stay.

tilburyre wrote:
No one is a Fascist Feline1 (go look the word up - you might learn what it means). These people have no right whatsoever to be here and should be deported. We are overcrowded and cannot continue to provide homes for people who have no connection with this country. As Alan says, why do they come here? Why don't they seek asylum in another Arab-speaking country? Becaue they'd be turned back at the border/airport. But then those countries are all Fascist in you eyes are they not?

Tilburyre is pretty hot on fascism Feline, don't try and out-do him on his specialist subject!

Looks like the B.N.P have lots of voters in Brighton!

I thought in an area that embraces peoples differences and is so inspired by art and culture, would be more supportive of people desperate to survive.... obviously not!

It is impossible for any of you to empathise as you have food and a roof and your family are safe, i hope one day you visit a war torn area or third world country and look at the mess we contributed to.

I wish they would house people in my area, im embarsessed of how the housing system isolates asylum seekers and refugees, and assumes they will become part of a community when they are completly disconnected. Also how un-multi
cultural brighton is,is shocking.

Just seems to me that too many people are supporting this institutionalised racisum.

If you go to a detention centre, you see know Americans? funny that!?

Hannah what are you on??

These people are illegal. These people are criminals !! If you break the law you have to accept the consequences!!!!!!

Seems like we have a serious amount of xenophobia going on here, what has these peoples religions got to do with it, it is about human rights, safety for human beings...of which we all are...

Funny how so many people give money to animal charities but have no compassion to save our own species!

Hannah C wrote:
Looks like the B.N.P have lots of voters in Brighton! I thought in an area that embraces peoples differences and is so inspired by art and culture, would be more supportive of people desperate to survive.... obviously not! It is impossible for any of you to empathise as you have food and a roof and your family are safe, i hope one day you visit a war torn area or third world country and look at the mess we contributed to. I wish they would house people in my area, im embarsessed of how the housing system isolates asylum seekers and refugees, and assumes they will become part of a community when they are completly disconnected. Also how un-multi cultural brighton is,is shocking. Just seems to me that too many people are supporting this institutionalised racisum. If you go to a detention centre, you see know Americans? funny that!?

and so the knee jerk reaction of the left wing - to call everyone who doesn't agree with them a racist

you see hannah, everybody is allowed their own opinions. even if that opinion is not the same as yours. if that causes you a problem then best you leave for a country or regime which is more to your taste

feline1 wrote:
If all you fascists enjoy fascism so much, why don't you go live in Austria instead of stinking up the streets of England, hmmm?

Sorry, can you confirm for me just who gave you the right to belittle people for having an opinion in the way the country they helped to build is run? Terrorists and foreign criminals just love d--k heads like you, I'd ban a million 'genuine' asylum seekers to keep one bomber out of MY country!
Remember this, 'bleeding hearts' are better to deal with than bleeding bodies, if you feel so strongly why don't YOU go and live in Iraq?, after giving your home to a needy asylum seeker and his extended family of course!

Im realistic and humane.

The criminals are the murders and rapists who we let out and let walk the streets with tags on yet innocent people only guilty of being born in conflict or poverty, whom have seen and experienced living horrors.

If you had any experience of the immigration system here you would understand that people with very strong cases get removed from this country and are sent to there death. Two people with the same case went to a tribunal and one got status and the other didnt, the system is a joke, and too many people are victim of it.

These people are not at risk. Their applications for asylum have been refused as have there appeals as their claimed concerns are manifestly unfounded i.e when the go back to Iraq, they will be fine. You should not throw around accusations of Xenophobia and Racism so recklessly. It is thanks to individuals with similar narrow minded ideas and the arrogance to dismiss the views of others, that you can't have a sensible debate on serious issues without being branded racist of xenophobic!!

Hannah C wrote:
Im realistic and humane. The criminals are the murders and rapists who we let out and let walk the streets with tags on yet innocent people only guilty of being born in conflict or poverty, whom have seen and experienced living horrors. If you had any experience of the immigration system here you would understand that people with very strong cases get removed from this country and are sent to there death. Two people with the same case went to a tribunal and one got status and the other didnt, the system is a joke, and too many people are victim of it.

You seem to be taking this issue rather personally, have you or a friend been through this system. Your knowledge of the inside of detention centers would lead me to believe that you have visited someone in detention or perhaps you are one of those really wonderful people who give up their precious free time to wonder around police stations, prisons and detention centers to make sure the customers at these facilities are receiving the 5* tax payer funded luxury they deserve.

If your first action on entering is illegal, you need to be refused entry.

I was making referance to the comments refering to the iraqi's going because of there religion. As for rasism, I have first hand experience of this and its highly apparent in the system, so if these words may make you fearful it is because they are a reality that as a white british woman with no relgious beliefs i never experience.

Im just shocked at the iggnorance expressed here today, and it just keeps coming, and i will use it so well, now people will see how isolated refugees are, and will be all the more willing to help the course, so thanks!

I am merely expressing my opinion too. But know i am proberly one of the only people who has experienced the system, spoke to people being sent to there death by our goverment.

If the goverment tells you there not at risk you believe? Attend an asylum tibunal, then you may understand. Dont fall for the media propaganda.

If peoples lives and families werent at risk, do you think they would risk there life in a box on a boat? Live in a sleeping bag in calais? Spend there life as an alien with no link to there homeland.

Yes, i have been to a detention centre, a sick place full of desperate people in limbo, most residents are on suicide watch and they treat that by confining you. Disabled people have no carers, have to crap on floors. People self harm and have little access to communication with legal support.And among this are children.

These people sometimes have families and children born here.

I feel as one of very few british people that would have seen the discusing treatment and lack of justice that asylum seekers under go. Go see, and tell me different, or believe the papers and stats.

hannah, why did these people struggle all across europe to get to britain when surely they could stop, in safety, in the first euro country they reached after fleeing their opressive homeland. what made britain, the furthest eu country, such an attractive goal? any reasonable person cannot help but think they were "going for the money / benefits"

Not everyone in detention came thru Calais. Media makes you think this, but doesnt show you how many people whom have been here years, with papers get removed.

As with any system, there maybe abusers, like with disability, housing etc here, but i assure you, these are a small minority.

I advise you to look beyond these few and see the reality, the despiration.

Do we really believe we are the only e.u country these people are trying to get to? Can we be sure they havent applied in other countries. Have you seen images of the camps in calais, these people are living under sheets, is like the third world.

Every month hundreds of people are granted asylum in the UK.
Every council holds citizenship ceremonies where nationals who become British pledge their allegiance to Britain.
However, there will always be people who cannot be granted asylum because they are murderers, rapists, paedophiles or do not meet the criteria etc.
Britain refuses entry to many people including the Dutch film maker who was considered an extremist anti muslim and even gangsta pop stars have also been refused entry to the UK. It has nothing to do with race or colour.
Perhaps the Lithuanian girl who came to Britain to work in Scotland whose body was found dismembered on a beach by children would have wished that Britain had refused entry to the Lithuanian who had murdered her. What would you say to her Hannah? He had committed murder in Germany, served a seven year sentence then moved to the UK and committed another murder within a year.
This is not a race issue, it is about keeping criminals out no matter what their colour, race or religion.

these are not criminals we are talking about, these are failed asylum seekers.... meaning the goverment didnt pick there name out the hat....oh i mean believe there legal case.

Hanna, tell me why those people in Calais are not seeking asylum in France!!!! Hanna please educate us all and list 5 countries where people are currently being discriminated against due to their race, religion or political affiliation. Then explain to us why these people are coming to the UK?? By the way Hannah, have you heard of the Dublin Convention??

I have no problem with people that come to this country if they want to work and pay tax and live by OUR laws after all they are in Britain!! but I have no time for all the immigrants that just want to scrounge our benefits they should just be sent straight back home. I don't really blame the immigrants, it's ony human nature to get the best you can and if this stupid government showers them with money what can we expect, we need a revolution to rid this country of this stupid self serving government.
P.S. I do know for a fact what immigrants get as I personally know some Albanian immigrants who were more than happy to show me what they get in the way of benefits and housing.

People are coming to the uk as they are more likely to get asylum. In france it is illegal to help a migrant, so im not suprised they come here, i would if my family was facing persecution. I just want people to see that this isnt all about economic migrants. The people protesting today were to stop 50 iraqis being sent back to somewhere they were at risk. One of these men has been here 9yrs and has a wife and 18month child left here, how long do you have to be here to be safe?

Hannah C wrote:
I believe you are the delusional and have proberly never met/spoke to anyone seeking asylum, and just believe the goverment propaganda. Yes whilst your asylum claim is going through you are givin a room and vouchers to eat, but once it is declined, like 80-90% are, this is taken off you. Then you are left in poverty or placed in detention, detention being prisons full of people whom have not broken the law, and where there is mass suicide and ill treatment, and children and families, as prisons are so full for actual uk criminals, why dont we use these unlawful prisons for them? It costs £1300/wk to keep someone in detention, and some of them ae in there years, and masses of people in there live in countries they cannot be returned to, so why not let them out, let them work and pay taxes, contribute, unlike most uk nations who regularly abuse the system.

Look at the nationality of the Doctors, Africans, Asian are you blind. And without Jamaican midwifes most of us would not be here. Transport....? Nursing....? Carework....?Cleanin

g...?Crop picking?We thrive on immigration, most uk nationals think they are above basic jobs, and would rather claim benefits.

Immigration contributes massively to the ecconomy...look at the visa prices, the higher taxes the price for international students.

This is the reality, people are quick to blame the blameless, look closer to home, these are who are draining the system.

There are people that come directly here, and people that claim asylum in other countries, you seem very blinkered, you've obviously been reading the Daily Mail!

IF 80-90% of them fail to stay in this Country they must not fit the bill so why don't they move on, surely they have no rights to keep on banging on our doors to stay here when quite clearly they have no case to stay here.

Maybe you should follow one of them and report back your findings, and further more why don't you try and follow up on the lies they tell about their backgound and how they were 'badly' treated in their own Country. I think you will soon come around to seeing what **** they really are.

Remove your blinkers and see the WHOLE story, not what they want you to see.

I have no blinkers, i have followed cases through the system, seen torture wound, worked with children whos family were shot in front of them, so open you eyes to there reality not that see through your western rose tinted glasses!

If YOU had followed a case you would see, as shown on newsnight, that two zimbabweans with the same evidence were given differnent outcomes.... There is no justice in this system, there is no system.

and by the way, this is not what i want to see, it is what i have seen, and do see, i want to see justice.

Why do these men leave their sisters, mothers, wives and children behind in these dangerous countries. why don't they stay and make change.
And before you bang on about them facing death, many people have faced death fighting something they believed in.

Its not just men? Families too. Maybe its beause they are willing to make the risky journey. Who knows, you obviously have an opinion on this? If you look on the NCADC website you will see there are many families and women too. Also gay men and women who are at high risk in certain countries.

It is mainly young men coming through.
As for a risky journey, the Jews shipped thousands of their women and children out of Europe in appalling conditions prior to the Second World War in an attempt to save them so it's rather patronising of you to suggest the men are willing to take the risk and the women and children aren't. Many men stayed behind knowing their fate but they chose to stay and fight.
These modern day young asylum seekers seem happy to leave the women and chidlren behind, something most men and cultures would never do. Even in the age of equality in the western world, men still sacrifice their lives for women and children in an emergency.
As I said, I would fight tooth and nail to protect my mother, partner and sister and the children in my family. I would die in the UK to do this.
I would not flee and save my own ****. It is gutless. If there are so many of them seeking asylum it would be better if they united inside their country as the brave Chinese youth did and effect change.

It is very difficult to give a over all view to this as there are so many different countries, issues and regimes. But in my observation there are men and women and families seeking asylum.

We have killed probably more than a million Iraqis since the war (and just as many through 12 years of sanctions), displaced 4-5 million on the latest figures and wrecked their country. What little isn't destroyed has been flogged to allied contractors. By rights we should have bankrupted ourselves paying them reparations. Giving the few who make it here a chance is the least we can do.

To "Hannah" and your condascending remarks you should not call someone ignorant or racist (likening them to the BNP) just because their opinion is different to yours. Grow up and accept that not everyone on this planet thinks like you. It doesn't make them wrong, just different.

Presumably the reason that these particular detainees did not find it automatically convenient to stop in 'the nearest Arabic speaking country' is because being Iraqi Kurds, they speak Kurdish.

All those who claim to oppose immigration on a basis other than racism, at least an acknowledgement that there are asylum seekers in the UK who are not Muslim Arabs, and who are apparently going to overrun this country with repressive Sharia Law, would make your statements a little more believable.

To those who seem to view it as such a personal burden to have people seeking asylum in 'your country', what have you done recently to facilitate an asylum seeker? I assure you that it costs a lot more of your hard earned tax money to keep people in a maximum security prison facility than it does to give human beings food and shelter. All the flimsy economic arguments fall down when you realise how much more it costs to brutalise people in the way you seem so keen to support.

And it is of course needless to point out how much money the UK government took from you blow up half the Middle East, amongst other areas, in the first place.

But then, what do I know, I'm just unemployed, tofu eating scum. Humanism, it seems, disqualifies opinion in Brighton,

Kendall, if you look at many of the remarks on this forum, and place them next to BNP policies you will see what i mean. And if you had had the experience of the system i had, you would see what i was applying my, 'institutionalized rasism' comment too this. We are blessed to be in a country that we have the freedom of speech.

How do you superglue yourself to a gate?

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