News RSS Feed Send your news, pictures & videos


Anger as protesters bussed in for Brighton EDO protest


A huge protest attracting demonstrators from across the country has sparked police anger after organisers refused to reveal how many will attend.

More than 1,000 are expected to descend on Brighton and Hove for the Smash EDO May day march.

Protesters will be bussed in from Bradford, Sheffield, Cardiff, Hereford, London and Bath in what organisers say will be their biggest protest ever.

The demonstration comes after violent clashes between police and marchers at a similar event in October.

Senior police officers have criticised the group for failing to reveal how many people they believe will be on the march.

They are now preparing for a large-scale operation costing tens of thousands of pounds.

Council bosses are also concerned about the impact on the city's reputation as thousands of tourists and day trippers will be enjoying the Bank Holiday weekend in the city.

Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, who is in charge of policing in Brighton and Hove, said: "We don't have any intelligence that there will be disorder but the best way to make an event safe is to make it lawful.

"We have a good track record of policing events where we have the co-operation of organisers, for example we handled the 1,500-strong demonstration relating to the Israeli Gaza conflict earlier in the year.

"Unfortunately with the EDO group they seem unwilling to engage with us - they have been unwilling or unable to accept our numerous invitations to do so.

"Whatever the costs are they could have been slashed if the organisers had co-operated with us."

Meanwhile Brunswick and Adelaide Councillor Paul Elgood said: "Smash EDO and police have had a poor relationship in the past but I think they need to get round the table to ensure the protest doesn't disrupt Bank Holiday tourism in the city."

The cost of policing at Smash EDO's October protest, where 500 people attended, was £50,000.

There were violent clashes between protesters and police in the street and ten people were arrested on suspicion of public order offences.

In January nine Smash EDO campaigners were arrested for breaking into the EDO MBM factory in Home Farm Road, Moulsecoomb, Brighton, and destroying computer equipment.

Protesters are now being urged to wear red and bring sound systems to the “Mayday Street Party”, which takes place on Monday May 4.

The aim of the event is to highlight the group's campaign to close down the EDO MBM factory.

On the group's website it urges people to: "Come dance, fight and remember the victims of ITT (Smash EDO)."

It adds: "We want this to be the biggest show of force yet against EDO."

Demonstration organiser Samuel James defended the group's decision not to tell police how many people they expected to attend.

He said: "We had around 800 people attend last year, we're expecting it in the thousands this time but we don't know exact numbers.

"We won't announce where we will gather or the route we are going to take – instead we're saying watch this space, those who are attending should keep looking at the website.

"We have a right to gather in our home town – asking police permission for the right to demonstrate would render the action pointless so we're not going to do so.

"It undermines the act of voicing our dissent.

"Instead we'll be recapturing the historic meaning of May day and showing resistance to capitalism, the system and the greed it creates.

"We're hoping for a carnivalesque atmosphere and for people to come and have fun."

When pressed by The Argus on the point that many of those to attend will in fact not be from Brighton and Hove or Sussex, Mr James said: "I don't think it matters where people come from. People have the right to demonstrate anywhere and this is a home-grown campaign."

In a press statement on Smash EDOs website it describes the event.

It says: "For centuries Mayday has brought people together and out on to the streets.

"People danced for the coming of summer and the fertility of the crops.

"People marched in remembrance and solidarity with their fellow workers around the world.

"People gathered in their cities to fight against global capital and exploitation."

The group will be meeting on May 2 and 3 at The Cowley Club in London Road, Brighton, to discuss their campaign.

Sussex Police is urging anyone involved in the organisation of the protest to call 0845 6070999 and ask to speak to the Events and Planning Unit at Hove Police Station.

Should the group meet with police to discuss the event? Tell us what you think below.

Comments(32)

william of orange says...
10:45pm Mon 20 Apr 09


...and with the first round having gone to the Police its ding..ding

round 2 !!!

(I forsee more "Nicola" type stories in the days after the riot!)


bibble says...
1:07am Tue 21 Apr 09

Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, said: "We don't have any intelligence that there will be disorder but the best way to make an event safe is to make it lawful."

Hold on one second, Mr Bartlett. We have all seen how your colleagues in Nottinghamshire conducted mass arrests on extremely spurious grounds, then imposed bail conditions to prevent lawful protest, a move criticised by the local MP. You need to clean your own stables before asking other people to clean theirs.

I am not a protestor but having read about the increasingly repressive moves by the police to prevent lawful protest, I am not surprised that the organisers do not want to meet with you. You might borrow the idea from Nottinghamshire and arrest them on some trumped up charge (it doesn't matter what), then impose bail conditions over the date of the protest while you pretend to "investigate" the charge.

Sussex Police do not have a very good history at all of policing demonstrations. Just look on The Argus web site for "police demonstration" and you will see there are numerous complaints about police misconduct and violence.

It is somewhat telling that the head of ACPO, Ken Jones, has defended police thuggery at the G20 demonstrations, describing it as "proportionate" despite quite compelling evidence of violence on the part of the police. Ken Jones' previous position was Chief Constable of Sussex Police. Perhaps he has instilled some of the unpleasant culture that Nick Hardwick, head of the IPCC, finds disturbing.

Issac Hunt says...
4:48am Tue 21 Apr 09

The Police are not perfect, but they do the most difficult and dangerous job on a day to day basis looking after the general public (yes I know some have to do the petty stuff which gets them disliked by the public, but thats life - Dont park on yellow lines and you get a ticket). But when excuses for womanhood like that thing that caught a little 'slap' in the face while provoking the police, really disgust me. She and her cronies are just scumbag trouble makers with twisted agendas. They try to sound all educated and peace loving, but are already planning the next big happening that will cause trouble and criminal damage. Did you see that crowd smashing the windows and doors in the Bank building in London? Well this woman is one of that lot - its simply arranged that the 'heavy mob' do the physical damage, while she and others like her disrupt the Police further back. Anyone in that demo that can be identified should be arrested and at least made to pay thousands in damages. A lot of them should be locked up. And do the EDO crew realise them effecting anything that EDO do could cause the death of our Soldiers. They are in reality traitors and the more that get the rough end of a police baton and put in hospital the better as far as im concerned. Total scum.

simonp503 says...
7:08am Tue 21 Apr 09

Issac Hunt wrote:
The Police are not perfect, but they do the most difficult and dangerous job on a day to day basis looking after the general public (yes I know some have to do the petty stuff which gets them disliked by the public, but thats life - Dont park on yellow lines and you get a ticket). But when excuses for womanhood like that thing that caught a little 'slap' in the face while provoking the police, really disgust me. She and her cronies are just scumbag trouble makers with twisted agendas. They try to sound all educated and peace loving, but are already planning the next big happening that will cause trouble and criminal damage. Did you see that crowd smashing the windows and doors in the Bank building in London? Well this woman is one of that lot - its simply arranged that the 'heavy mob' do the physical damage, while she and others like her disrupt the Police further back. Anyone in that demo that can be identified should be arrested and at least made to pay thousands in damages. A lot of them should be locked up. And do the EDO crew realise them effecting anything that EDO do could cause the death of our Soldiers. They are in reality traitors and the more that get the rough end of a police baton and put in hospital the better as far as im concerned. Total scum.
Nice one and well put.

Tye says...
7:46am Tue 21 Apr 09

Due to complaints from the "public" and poor comparisons with other Police Forces in Europe
Sussex Police have decided to act more like French and German Police Forces.

So watch out for the tear gas floating through Brighton and the water cannon

Is that OK - are you protestors happy now?

After all a Policeman TOUCHING YOU is assault

davyboy says...
8:06am Tue 21 Apr 09

if 'rent-a-mob'are being bussed in, the round them up and bus them back out again. or, stop the coaches and turn them round before they get there. better still, as Tye says, confront them continental style, with water cannon and tear gas.

GaryS9 says...
8:45am Tue 21 Apr 09

I hope I am not being dull, but what on earth is EDO?!

salty_pete says...
8:53am Tue 21 Apr 09

If these people want to protest, they can do it peacefully on the Level. If they want to cause criminal damage they will try and march to the EDO premises and commit crime. The police are there to prevent crime, so all EDO have to do is protest peacefully. However they are a facist organisation, by that I mean there is only one point of view they will subscribe to and that is their own. Democratic law is not for them. So the police hopefully will uphold our democratic rights and keep these people from commiting criminal damage. And if there are a few sore heads along the way then they will have brought that upon themselves, and no blame should be attached to the Police.

Carl Bugenhagen says...
8:57am Tue 21 Apr 09

Davyboy, I expect you're quite right - rent-a-mob will be bussing in more Police from adjoining areas. Meanwhile the brave boys from Brighton will be back photographing anyone going in or out of the Cowley Club, plotting spurious arrests and making sure their numbers are not on their uniforms and their balaclavas are nicely ironed. The Police have taken and abused all the powers given to them by this authoritarian government and have lost the support of very many people (right wingnuts excepted). I don't blame the protesters for keeping their cards close to their chest. Why would you want to give the cops your route - so you can be 'kettled' somewhere, beaten up or forced to use a latrine?

Fight Back says...
9:07am Tue 21 Apr 09

To those being bused in - STAY AWAY - you're not welcome in Brighton. Hopefully the police will treat you with the contempt you deserve. You claim to be peaceful yet EVERY demo against EDO turns ugly. You blame the police for this but your web site uses words such as force and fight. If the police are reading this - please, please, please use batons, gas, water cannon along with dogs and horses. If you batter them enough maybe they'll get the hint and go away for good. Then the good people of this city can stop having thugs rampaging across east Brighton and stop paying through the nose with OUR council tax. Every single demonstrator ( sorry thug ! ) should be made to pay towards the policing cost.

Junglist Massive says...
9:34am Tue 21 Apr 09

No-one cares any more.

Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.

bibble says...
9:46am Tue 21 Apr 09

Junglist Massive wrote:
No-one cares any more.

Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.
I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places.

It is people like you who burned books, who conducted witch hunts, who tortured heretics. The list goes on.

Perhaps you would like to be in charge of the media in some liberal country like Iran or North Korea? You would fit right in.

Junglist Massive says...
10:22am Tue 21 Apr 09

bibble wrote:
Junglist Massive wrote:
No-one cares any more.

Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.
I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places.

It is people like you who burned books, who conducted witch hunts, who tortured heretics. The list goes on.

Perhaps you would like to be in charge of the media in some liberal country like Iran or North Korea? You would fit right in.
Oh my god, you have NO idea do you? Really, where do you get this rubbish from? Do you sit at home all day reading Prison Planet dot com?

Tye says...
10:33am Tue 21 Apr 09

Junglist Massive wrote:
bibble wrote:
Junglist Massive wrote: No-one cares any more. Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.
I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places. It is people like you who burned books, who conducted witch hunts, who tortured heretics. The list goes on. Perhaps you would like to be in charge of the media in some liberal country like Iran or North Korea? You would fit right in.
Oh my god, you have NO idea do you? Really, where do you get this rubbish from? Do you sit at home all day reading Prison Planet dot com?
Bibble mate - I don't think its too good an idea to call the UK a police state and then use Commy examples- I'd have said NuLabour try and look right wing - you still get a tougher sentence for damaging property than damaging a human being!

Too often people go off the deep end - the taliban, Nazi Germany etc etc - IF for a day they had to live in those countries they would praise our Country and our too soft Police to high heaven

6LXB says...
10:38am Tue 21 Apr 09

It's about time the police whipped the 'Smash EDO' demonstrators ar*es. We're fed up of you lot causing strife in our city. Go away,and don't come back!

Dickens Cider says...
10:42am Tue 21 Apr 09

I have to wonder what affect these protests actually have - has anything ever changed as a result?

Does this action ever lead to anything other than arrests and violence?

Just curious....

Lulu says...
10:46am Tue 21 Apr 09

Just another day out for the out of work louts! Davyboy is right - don't let them into the city, turn them around and send them packing.

salty_pete says...
10:58am Tue 21 Apr 09

Now's here's an idea. Every demonstrator identified should have their benefits witheld for that day, as they are obviously not out looking for work !

birthofanorange says...
11:00am Tue 21 Apr 09

davyboy wrote:
if 'rent-a-mob'are being bussed in, the round them up and bus them back out again. or, stop the coaches and turn them round before they get there. better still, as Tye says, confront them continental style, with water cannon and tear gas.
I wonder if any will be bussed in from Oxford. Working that day, davyboy? ;-)

freddo says...
11:22am Tue 21 Apr 09

What a nerve that people from Hove, Worthing and Saltdean (see above) are speaking for the people of Brighton! They certainly don't speak for me! how on earth are the EDO protesters supposed to predict how many will attend the demo? It's ludicrous...

davyboy says...
11:25am Tue 21 Apr 09

Carl Bugenhagen wrote:
Davyboy, I expect you're quite right - rent-a-mob will be bussing in more Police from adjoining areas. Meanwhile the brave boys from Brighton will be back photographing anyone going in or out of the Cowley Club, plotting spurious arrests and making sure their numbers are not on their uniforms and their balaclavas are nicely ironed. The Police have taken and abused all the powers given to them by this authoritarian government and have lost the support of very many people (right wingnuts excepted). I don't blame the protesters for keeping their cards close to their chest. Why would you want to give the cops your route - so you can be 'kettled' somewhere, beaten up or forced to use a latrine?
i agree with the right to protest, but not to the detriment of others going about their daily lives. these 'protesters' know nothing about what the protest is really about, and just turn up to annoy others and cause a nuisance. if they are being brought in from outside, then they are not welcome. they have no reason to be here.

dogger says...
1:55pm Tue 21 Apr 09

"We have a right to gather in our home town" - yes you do...

Just as I have a right to clean you scum off the streets with a large stick if you cause damage to my property or come near my family.

str8outtaDC says...
2:39pm Tue 21 Apr 09

A suggestion for your daily editorial meeting: Speak to 'Smash Edo' and ask them if they are concerned about police violence after the death of Ian Tomlinson and dozens of other claims of brutality.
I'm going to bet they are.

I'm also going to bet you continue your weak, biased, fear mongering stories about legal protests.

They are part of Brighton's history and culture - if any local paper should be a bit less biased its the Argus.

Brigadier Monty says...
5:00pm Tue 21 Apr 09

This makes me extremely angry. Again , here have the "Do gooding Lefties" obviously with nothing else better to do other than protest at a perfectly legitimate factory. A factory that supplies weapons, yes ok, Weapons to protect our country or are you saying these weapons are sold to North Korea and Iran? I very much doubt that fact. Do you know China supplies weapons to countries such as Sudan, war torn countries in poor Afria. I would love to see these left wing idiots on the front line fighting in Afghanistan and fighting for the good of this country.
To me You are not even considered British nationals you are traiters, non patriots. I suspect most of you are also living on benefits but of course I do not want to pre-judge and generalise.

The police have every right to stop you people committing crimes and damaging property.

Liberal countries like Iran and North Korea, you must be joking. They are about as Liberal as the UK is Communist!

lastgasp says...
7:19pm Tue 21 Apr 09

Good to see proper patriots standing up for liberal democracy against those evil leftist scum. After all human rights are so precious they should be locked away in a box forever. Heaven forfend that busloads of people would come down to Brighton to enjoy themselves on Mayday when they could be goosestepping in line with the police and wearing brownshirts. I hate these traitors who want to stop our gallant boys and girls from their holy quest for British Lebensraum.
By the way dogger I wouldnt touch you pr your family with someone elses tongue so put your stick away big boy. x

Trojandog says...
9:48pm Tue 21 Apr 09

If the demonstrators are so keen on the Police displaying their numbers, then perhaps the demonstrators should display an identifying number such as NHS or more likely dole number. Or have they got something to hide?

El Burro says...
1:25pm Thu 23 Apr 09

bibble wrote:
Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, said: "We don't have any intelligence that there will be disorder but the best way to make an event safe is to make it lawful." Hold on one second, Mr Bartlett. We have all seen how your colleagues in Nottinghamshire conducted mass arrests on extremely spurious grounds, then imposed bail conditions to prevent lawful protest, a move criticised by the local MP. You need to clean your own stables before asking other people to clean theirs. I am not a protestor but having read about the increasingly repressive moves by the police to prevent lawful protest, I am not surprised that the organisers do not want to meet with you. You might borrow the idea from Nottinghamshire and arrest them on some trumped up charge (it doesn't matter what), then impose bail conditions over the date of the protest while you pretend to "investigate" the charge. Sussex Police do not have a very good history at all of policing demonstrations. Just look on The Argus web site for "police demonstration" and you will see there are numerous complaints about police misconduct and violence. It is somewhat telling that the head of ACPO, Ken Jones, has defended police thuggery at the G20 demonstrations, describing it as "proportionate" despite quite compelling evidence of violence on the part of the police. Ken Jones' previous position was Chief Constable of Sussex Police. Perhaps he has instilled some of the unpleasant culture that Nick Hardwick, head of the IPCC, finds disturbing.
No offence, but I don't think that by breaking a few windows of a factory which may/may not make components for the release mechanism of air transported incendiary devices is going to make a great deal of difference. I don't know why you morons bother - Global Capitalism is a blessing for us inhabitants of the UK - and a few pointless demonstrations from reactionary professional protesters with misguided and under informed opinions is not going to change anything. In fact, it will only force the company out of Brighton, and take jobs with it, increasing the strain on the government.

If you don't like it, go and live in Africa and protest there - they are the real losers in capitalism, not you.

brightoncore says...
5:30pm Mon 4 May 09

I am not surprised at the conservative contingent here in Brighton. Having been born and bred in Brighton this influx of wealthy Bourgeois only seeks to whittle out the Bohemian heart of Brighton which I think is now sadly dead.
Listening to a wealthy family in a pub talking about how they were planning to buy another property in London while on another table people were worried about jobs clearly provided me with a classic example of how the pubs, attitudes and people in Brighton are now more like Surrey conservatives than the greater 'left' leaning of real Brightonians over the years. After being sniped at by the father of this family (who is a day trader, and to which he wanted to tell everyone in a very loud voice how much stock he was dealing in) in the pub as being ‘not a local’ and taking his ‘favorite spot’, I feel my anger burning at these usurpers of Brighton who’s money and attitudes are killing its creative heart.
Police powers have now gone too far, liberty and your rights are at threat, but for the Daily Mail (and Argus Readers) images such as those on this website and the coverage will only fuel anger at what are a small minority of people who are doing what many of us are too hypocritical or scared to do.
So I guess you people didn’t realise that the Bankers have caused more damage to this country than any terrorist has ever done, they are the one’s who are traitors. Over half a trillion debt, and they walk scot free. Get your priorities right and don’t believe conservative backed newspapers, go see for yourself.

simon195 says...
6:15pm Mon 4 May 09

good luck to the protesters we live in a free country and the so called arms factory should be made to pay for the obscene amount of police swarming around costing me a tax payer money...complete ott by the police yet again...what a mess this country is in !!!

spky999 says...
6:19pm Mon 4 May 09

It's a mystery to me why they pick on this particular firm. There are literally dozens of defence contractors throughout the southern counties whose products are much closer to being actual weapons as opposed to the mere delivery rails produced at the Brighton factory.

For example, why don't they go after the firm who makes the high reliability push buttons that the pilot presses to actually release the weapon? They're produced on the south coast too and are just as lethal as any of ITT/EDO MBM's production.

I think it's because the latter is handy for public transport, is within walking distance from the city centre and - most of all - it's a very soft target compared with the big boys who make the things that go bang and the government department who orders them where security breaches might be treated as more serious offences than breaking and entering or public order.

Weapons per se don't cause wars. It's the conflict of interest between the protagonists.

Resolve the conflict by peaceful means and you don't need the weapons. Not an easy or a quick solution as it goes against human nature.

Meanwhile I think rent-a-mob does indeed rule. Folk with nothing better to do than cause agro for their own self gratification. It's probably the nearest thing they've got to a hobby interest.

simon195 says...
6:24pm Mon 4 May 09

a lot of police are there today for a ruck..its a known fact...intimidation springs to mind... the sheer numbers of em driving around looking anywhere they can for trouble ..im sorry im all for the protesters...i see their point ...should be every weekend if you ask me !!

apbri says...
11:55pm Mon 4 May 09

There were a large number of police there for a reason. To protect the perfectly law abiding people enjoying their bank holiday day off from work. Was it right to see pensioners running scared of the protest surges through the city, or see the pier and sea front a no go area because of the dangers. I suppose climbing on the roof of the pier buildings and spray paint was perfectly normal, as was throwing glass bottles smashing all over ready to let an unsuspecting child cut themselves or the poor motorist puncture their tyres. But well done to the protestors for ruining a bank holiday day for those people who actually work for a living and have to fund your boring existence which won't sway any decisions made by the public or companies.


Most popular






Local Information

Enter your postcode, town or place name

House prices »   Schools »   Crime »   Hospitals »

Local Businesses