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10:30pm Monday 20th April 2009 in
A huge protest attracting demonstrators from across the country has sparked police anger after organisers refused to reveal how many will attend.
More than 1,000 are expected to descend on Brighton and Hove for the Smash EDO May day march.
Protesters will be bussed in from Bradford, Sheffield, Cardiff, Hereford, London and Bath in what organisers say will be their biggest protest ever.
The demonstration comes after violent clashes between police and marchers at a similar event in October.
Senior police officers have criticised the group for failing to reveal how many people they believe will be on the march.
They are now preparing for a large-scale operation costing tens of thousands of pounds.
Council bosses are also concerned about the impact on the city's reputation as thousands of tourists and day trippers will be enjoying the Bank Holiday weekend in the city.
Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, who is in charge of policing in Brighton and Hove, said: "We don't have any intelligence that there will be disorder but the best way to make an event safe is to make it lawful.
"We have a good track record of policing events where we have the co-operation of organisers, for example we handled the 1,500-strong demonstration relating to the Israeli Gaza conflict earlier in the year.
"Unfortunately with the EDO group they seem unwilling to engage with us - they have been unwilling or unable to accept our numerous invitations to do so.
"Whatever the costs are they could have been slashed if the organisers had co-operated with us."
Meanwhile Brunswick and Adelaide Councillor Paul Elgood said: "Smash EDO and police have had a poor relationship in the past but I think they need to get round the table to ensure the protest doesn't disrupt Bank Holiday tourism in the city."
The cost of policing at Smash EDO's October protest, where 500 people attended, was £50,000.
There were violent clashes between protesters and police in the street and ten people were arrested on suspicion of public order offences.
In January nine Smash EDO campaigners were arrested for breaking into the EDO MBM factory in Home Farm Road, Moulsecoomb, Brighton, and destroying computer equipment.
Protesters are now being urged to wear red and bring sound systems to the “Mayday Street Party”, which takes place on Monday May 4.
The aim of the event is to highlight the group's campaign to close down the EDO MBM factory.
On the group's website it urges people to: "Come dance, fight and remember the victims of ITT (Smash EDO)."
It adds: "We want this to be the biggest show of force yet against EDO."
Demonstration organiser Samuel James defended the group's decision not to tell police how many people they expected to attend.
He said: "We had around 800 people attend last year, we're expecting it in the thousands this time but we don't know exact numbers.
"We won't announce where we will gather or the route we are going to take – instead we're saying watch this space, those who are attending should keep looking at the website.
"We have a right to gather in our home town – asking police permission for the right to demonstrate would render the action pointless so we're not going to do so.
"It undermines the act of voicing our dissent.
"Instead we'll be recapturing the historic meaning of May day and showing resistance to capitalism, the system and the greed it creates.
"We're hoping for a carnivalesque atmosphere and for people to come and have fun."
When pressed by The Argus on the point that many of those to attend will in fact not be from Brighton and Hove or Sussex, Mr James said: "I don't think it matters where people come from. People have the right to demonstrate anywhere and this is a home-grown campaign."
In a press statement on Smash EDOs website it describes the event.
It says: "For centuries Mayday has brought people together and out on to the streets.
"People danced for the coming of summer and the fertility of the crops.
"People marched in remembrance and solidarity with their fellow workers around the world.
"People gathered in their cities to fight against global capital and exploitation."
The group will be meeting on May 2 and 3 at The Cowley Club in London Road, Brighton, to discuss their campaign.
Sussex Police is urging anyone involved in the organisation of the protest to call 0845 6070999 and ask to speak to the Events and Planning Unit at Hove Police Station.
Should the group meet with police to discuss the event? Tell us what you think below.
Comments(32)
bibble
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1:07am Tue 21 Apr 09
Issac Hunt
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4:48am Tue 21 Apr 09
simonp503
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7:08am Tue 21 Apr 09
Issac Hunt wrote:Nice one and well put.
The Police are not perfect, but they do the most difficult and dangerous job on a day to day basis looking after the general public (yes I know some have to do the petty stuff which gets them disliked by the public, but thats life - Dont park on yellow lines and you get a ticket). But when excuses for womanhood like that thing that caught a little 'slap' in the face while provoking the police, really disgust me. She and her cronies are just scumbag trouble makers with twisted agendas. They try to sound all educated and peace loving, but are already planning the next big happening that will cause trouble and criminal damage. Did you see that crowd smashing the windows and doors in the Bank building in London? Well this woman is one of that lot - its simply arranged that the 'heavy mob' do the physical damage, while she and others like her disrupt the Police further back. Anyone in that demo that can be identified should be arrested and at least made to pay thousands in damages. A lot of them should be locked up. And do the EDO crew realise them effecting anything that EDO do could cause the death of our Soldiers. They are in reality traitors and the more that get the rough end of a police baton and put in hospital the better as far as im concerned. Total scum.
Tye
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7:46am Tue 21 Apr 09
davyboy
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8:06am Tue 21 Apr 09
GaryS9
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8:45am Tue 21 Apr 09
salty_pete
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8:53am Tue 21 Apr 09
Carl Bugenhagen
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8:57am Tue 21 Apr 09
Fight Back
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9:07am Tue 21 Apr 09
Junglist Massive
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9:34am Tue 21 Apr 09
bibble
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9:46am Tue 21 Apr 09
Junglist Massive wrote:I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places.
No-one cares any more.
Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.
Junglist Massive
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10:22am Tue 21 Apr 09
bibble wrote:Oh my god, you have NO idea do you? Really, where do you get this rubbish from? Do you sit at home all day reading Prison Planet dot com?
Junglist Massive wrote:I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places.
No-one cares any more.
Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.
It is people like you who burned books, who conducted witch hunts, who tortured heretics. The list goes on.
Perhaps you would like to be in charge of the media in some liberal country like Iran or North Korea? You would fit right in.
Tye
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10:33am Tue 21 Apr 09
Junglist Massive wrote:Bibble mate - I don't think its too good an idea to call the UK a police state and then use Commy examples- I'd have said NuLabour try and look right wing - you still get a tougher sentence for damaging property than damaging a human being!
bibble wrote:Oh my god, you have NO idea do you? Really, where do you get this rubbish from? Do you sit at home all day reading Prison Planet dot com?Junglist Massive wrote: No-one cares any more. Bibble, you are an extreme left-wing hippie and should be banned from this site.I see. Anyone who you disagrees with should be banned. History has shown us people like you in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Castro's Cuba, and numerous other totalitarian places. It is people like you who burned books, who conducted witch hunts, who tortured heretics. The list goes on. Perhaps you would like to be in charge of the media in some liberal country like Iran or North Korea? You would fit right in.
6LXB
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10:38am Tue 21 Apr 09
Dickens Cider
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10:42am Tue 21 Apr 09
Lulu
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10:46am Tue 21 Apr 09
salty_pete
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10:58am Tue 21 Apr 09
birthofanorange
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11:00am Tue 21 Apr 09
davyboy wrote:I wonder if any will be bussed in from Oxford. Working that day, davyboy? ;-)
if 'rent-a-mob'are being bussed in, the round them up and bus them back out again. or, stop the coaches and turn them round before they get there. better still, as Tye says, confront them continental style, with water cannon and tear gas.
freddo
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11:22am Tue 21 Apr 09
davyboy
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11:25am Tue 21 Apr 09
Carl Bugenhagen wrote:i agree with the right to protest, but not to the detriment of others going about their daily lives. these 'protesters' know nothing about what the protest is really about, and just turn up to annoy others and cause a nuisance. if they are being brought in from outside, then they are not welcome. they have no reason to be here.
Davyboy, I expect you're quite right - rent-a-mob will be bussing in more Police from adjoining areas. Meanwhile the brave boys from Brighton will be back photographing anyone going in or out of the Cowley Club, plotting spurious arrests and making sure their numbers are not on their uniforms and their balaclavas are nicely ironed. The Police have taken and abused all the powers given to them by this authoritarian government and have lost the support of very many people (right wingnuts excepted). I don't blame the protesters for keeping their cards close to their chest. Why would you want to give the cops your route - so you can be 'kettled' somewhere, beaten up or forced to use a latrine?
dogger
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1:55pm Tue 21 Apr 09
str8outtaDC
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2:39pm Tue 21 Apr 09
Brigadier Monty
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5:00pm Tue 21 Apr 09
lastgasp
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7:19pm Tue 21 Apr 09
Trojandog
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9:48pm Tue 21 Apr 09
El Burro
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1:25pm Thu 23 Apr 09
bibble wrote:No offence, but I don't think that by breaking a few windows of a factory which may/may not make components for the release mechanism of air transported incendiary devices is going to make a great deal of difference. I don't know why you morons bother - Global Capitalism is a blessing for us inhabitants of the UK - and a few pointless demonstrations from reactionary professional protesters with misguided and under informed opinions is not going to change anything. In fact, it will only force the company out of Brighton, and take jobs with it, increasing the strain on the government.
Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, said: "We don't have any intelligence that there will be disorder but the best way to make an event safe is to make it lawful." Hold on one second, Mr Bartlett. We have all seen how your colleagues in Nottinghamshire conducted mass arrests on extremely spurious grounds, then imposed bail conditions to prevent lawful protest, a move criticised by the local MP. You need to clean your own stables before asking other people to clean theirs. I am not a protestor but having read about the increasingly repressive moves by the police to prevent lawful protest, I am not surprised that the organisers do not want to meet with you. You might borrow the idea from Nottinghamshire and arrest them on some trumped up charge (it doesn't matter what), then impose bail conditions over the date of the protest while you pretend to "investigate" the charge. Sussex Police do not have a very good history at all of policing demonstrations. Just look on The Argus web site for "police demonstration" and you will see there are numerous complaints about police misconduct and violence. It is somewhat telling that the head of ACPO, Ken Jones, has defended police thuggery at the G20 demonstrations, describing it as "proportionate" despite quite compelling evidence of violence on the part of the police. Ken Jones' previous position was Chief Constable of Sussex Police. Perhaps he has instilled some of the unpleasant culture that Nick Hardwick, head of the IPCC, finds disturbing.
brightoncore
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5:30pm Mon 4 May 09
simon195
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6:15pm Mon 4 May 09
spky999
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6:19pm Mon 4 May 09
simon195
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6:24pm Mon 4 May 09
apbri
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11:55pm Mon 4 May 09
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william of orange says...
10:45pm Mon 20 Apr 09
...and with the first round having gone to the Police its ding..ding
round 2 !!!
(I forsee more "Nicola" type stories in the days after the riot!)