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8:59am Thursday 28th May 2009
Celia Barlow’s finances have come under scrutiny from the Telegraph in its latest round of MPs’ expenses revelations.
Hove MP Miss Barlow has made political capital out of the fact that last year she claimed nothing last year in second home allowances, choosing to get the train back from Westminster to her constituency instead.
But the Telegraph today reveals she took advantage of the system to make extensive renovations to her Hove home and claim moving costs, including stamp duty. The total paid out was more than £28,000.
This was despite telling the Commons Fees Office the £550,000 Hove property would become her main home.
The Labour MP initially claimed £29,399 for stamp duty, mortgage broker’s fees and legal fees and removal costs, of which £13,881was paid.
In the next financial year, from May 2006 to October 2006, she was paid £15,042 for renovations, storage and more removals.
The renovations include redecorating two bathrooms, £1,000 for electrical work, £540 for gardening, and £520 for removing a shed from her new garden and getting rid of unwanted concrete.
Last week, she told The Argus she had “no idea” how people would react if they learnt the full details of her expense claims.
However, today she told The Telegraph that all the claims had been made with the agreement of the fees office.
She said the fees office had asked if she intended to make the Hove address her main home when she nominated it as her second after buying it in January 2006.
She added: “I said that I probably would do so which I did after the move to Hove was concluded. I was advised to claim for the cost of moving into the Hove home.”
She also said the porch was installed for security reasons, one bathroom was bare and the other had a broken lavatory.
Miss Barlow said the move took time because her children went to school in Chichester.
Breakdown of claims and payouts for the Hove home
Coffee Bucks, St James' Street says...
9:24am Thu 28 May 09
Stripes, Brighton says...
9:48am Thu 28 May 09
Masterchav, Brighton says...
11:05am Thu 28 May 09
Fercri Sakes, Hove says...
11:21am Thu 28 May 09
Masterchav wrote:Percentagely the Conservatives have been worse.
Labour sleaze
keep the faith, hove says...
11:23am Thu 28 May 09
Arriseme, Brighton says...
11:43am Thu 28 May 09
Mr. Kipling, Hove says...
11:57am Thu 28 May 09
Jackie26, Hove says...
12:08pm Thu 28 May 09
Hugh Rinall, Brighton says...
12:18pm Thu 28 May 09
Voice of the silent Majority, Hove says...
12:46pm Thu 28 May 09
Granny, Brighton says...
12:48pm Thu 28 May 09
Alison Smith, Brighton says...
12:59pm Thu 28 May 09
keep the faith, hove says...
1:12pm Thu 28 May 09
keep the faith, hove says...
1:43pm Thu 28 May 09
Barney McGrew, Trumpton says...
1:49pm Thu 28 May 09
pun master, Hove says...
2:11pm Thu 28 May 09
Jackie26 wrote:Lets not get carried away? What planet are you on... The point here is not that whether she lives in her constituency or not, but about the fact that these MP's have claimed every last penny they can get their hands on. I am a teacher in Rottingdean, live in Hove - I serve the local community, do I have the right to claim for redecoration work at my house? Guido Fawkes had the right idea. Apart from being a barking mad Catholic of course...
Hold on, let's not get to carried away.
I'm not condoning house improvements at the tax-payers expense, but she took office in 2005 after previously living in Chichester, surely moving and redecoration expenses are what you'd expect, if you're of the opinion that the MP should actually bother to live in their constituency.
Even still, Ms Barlow for all her faults is actually involved in Hove, at least she bothers with Surgeries
Besides, it's hardly a duck island...
AJPrince, Lewes says...
2:41pm Thu 28 May 09
Jackie26, Hove says...
4:15pm Thu 28 May 09
pun master wrote:Of course not, I'm not implying that charging the tax payer for house redecoration is in any shape or form acceptable...
Jackie26 wrote:Lets not get carried away? What planet are you on... The point here is not that whether she lives in her constituency or not, but about the fact that these MP's have claimed every last penny they can get their hands on. I am a teacher in Rottingdean, live in Hove - I serve the local community, do I have the right to claim for redecoration work at my house? Guido Fawkes had the right idea. Apart from being a barking mad Catholic of course...
Hold on, let's not get to carried away.
I'm not condoning house improvements at the tax-payers expense, but she took office in 2005 after previously living in Chichester, surely moving and redecoration expenses are what you'd expect, if you're of the opinion that the MP should actually bother to live in their constituency.
Even still, Ms Barlow for all her faults is actually involved in Hove, at least she bothers with Surgeries
Besides, it's hardly a duck island...
jyan, says...
4:59pm Thu 28 May 09
Jim BB, Brighton says...
5:35pm Thu 28 May 09
Masterchav, Brighton says...
5:38pm Thu 28 May 09
joshingimnot, hove says...
6:12pm Thu 28 May 09
stickman, Portslade says...
6:41pm Thu 28 May 09
yorkie44, Woodingdean says...
7:10pm Thu 28 May 09
stan bailey, brighton says...
7:49pm Thu 28 May 09
AJPrince wrote:mmmm. Spoilt for choice this year.
Guy Fawkes should indeed be cleared post-humously of any wrong doing. I'm guessing he'll be absent from Lewes Bonfire celebration this year, organisers will be too busy building MP effigies.
Variable, Brighton says...
8:25pm Thu 28 May 09
Tye, Brighton says...
8:34pm Thu 28 May 09
TheInsider, Brighton says...
8:38pm Thu 28 May 09
davyboy, abingdon, oxon says...
9:49pm Thu 28 May 09
Guerrero, Alicante says...
10:13pm Thu 28 May 09
Tye wrote:Yeah.Shut the fcuk up poor people,you thick bstards.You're just jealous.
I worked for a large multinational and despite hating politicians for being hypocrits have to say that when an "international manager" was asked to move from one country to another his salary was boosted( to compensate for the tax he would pay for the "freebies") his expenses in the first few years were about 3 times their salary, they got tax advice , they got a house, a car and private schools fees paid so lets not go over the top and try and end democratcic Government - Grow up poor people as some old Tory MP said - It is a lot of jealousy from thick poor people - he was told to shut up pretty quick as we don't like the truth do we?
leonsky, brighton says...
10:51pm Thu 28 May 09
Tye, Brighton says...
6:54am Fri 29 May 09
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit, Brighton says...
7:45am Fri 29 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:And who makes up the rules? The MPs do! No wonder everything is always 'within the rules'. Can you imagine if Dole cheats were allowed to make their own rules:
'Another one bites the dust'... Wait for...'but it ws all within the rules' comment.
ABC1, Brighton says...
7:47am Fri 29 May 09
ade234uk, Peacehaven says...
7:48am Fri 29 May 09
tinkywinky, Brighton says...
9:28am Fri 29 May 09
Brian62, Brighton says...
1:49pm Fri 29 May 09
davyboy, abingdon, oxon says...
5:29pm Fri 29 May 09
Tye wrote:point taken. it wouldn't be SO bad if these politicians, whom WE elect, did what they were supposed to do. i.e as we, the electorate, want them to do. we all want lower taxes(but there has to be some), less immigration, and a decent standard of living, which are not getting. when there are some folk who have to choose whether to heat or eat, there is something fundamentally wrong. also, why do we need 600+ mp's? why not 1 or 2 for each county? all these tax increases, either direct or indirect just fund the mp's extravagant lifestyles and do nothing for the normal person
To Davyboy - £65k a lot? Yes for "normal people" BUT how about 3 times that for running a local council, over twice that for being a councils professional liar i.e press officer, (and they got expenses IF they wanted to move nearer their new office) or £500k for deciding to retire early (but getting your solicitor to write your resignation)
so lets get things into perspective and go for the big money crooks
Tye, Brighton says...
9:16am Sat 30 May 09
Guerrero wrote:Has the penny not fropped yet?
Tye wrote: I worked for a large multinational and despite hating politicians for being hypocrits have to say that when an "international manager" was asked to move from one country to another his salary was boosted( to compensate for the tax he would pay for the "freebies") his expenses in the first few years were about 3 times their salary, they got tax advice , they got a house, a car and private schools fees paid so lets not go over the top and try and end democratcic Government - Grow up poor people as some old Tory MP said - It is a lot of jealousy from thick poor people - he was told to shut up pretty quick as we don't like the truth do we?Yeah.Shut the fcuk up poor people,you thick bstards.You're just jealous. Go have a fry up and face the truth. Remember though.Your taxes.Taken from what you paupers earn.Pays for those disgusting leeches lightbulbs, toilet seats,manure and servants' quarters. With what is occuring in Korea and the evident loss of faith in democracy.With the obvious strength and rise of Islam and their willingness to hold true to their beliefs.Christianity and democracy are massively under threat. Personally I think a change is needed. Maybe a radical one. Hasta la revolución.
Randy Lahey, Sunnyvale Trailer Park says...
10:43am Mon 1 Jun 09
Brian62 wrote:great post, great to see some intelligent and well thought out arguments for once on this God forsaken hole of a site.
The Green Book 2009 www.parliament.uk/do cuments/upload/Green Book.pdf places strong emphasis on Principles, which if these she had bothered to read Section 1 of the Green Book before rushing off to read Section 2 pages 12-56 of what she could claim for, some of the more astute might not be in the position they find themselves in. Pages 6-9, Section 1.3 describes the Fundamental Principles. What follows is a verbatim extract : In July 1995, the House agreed to adopt the Code of Conduct for Members of Parliament – which includes a number of general principles of personal conduct. These are based on concepts of selflessness, integrity, objectivity, accountability, openness, honesty and leadership. The broad principles set out below are derived from the Code of Conduct and underpin the allowance regime. When making claims against parliamentary allowances, Members must adhere to these principles. The principles are: * Claims should be above reproach and must reflect actual usage of the resources being claimed. * Claims must only be made for expenditure that it was necessary for a Member to incur to ensure that he or she could properly perform his or her parliamentary duties. * Allowances are reimbursed only for the purpose of a Member carrying out his or her parliamentary duties. * Members must ensure that claims do not give rise to, or give the appearance of giving rise to, an improper personal financial benefit to themselves or anyone else. * Members are committed to openness about what expenditure has been incurred and for what purposes. * Individual Members take personal responsibility for all expenses incurred, for making claims and for keeping records, even if the administration of claims is delegated by them to others. * The requirement of ensuring value for money is central in claiming for accommodation, goods or services – Members should avoid purchases which could be seen as extravagant or luxurious. * Claims must be supported by documentary evidence, except where the House has agreed that such evidence is not necessary. Applying the principles In the majority of cases, the application of these principles will be straightforward. But the role of Members is constantly evolving and different Members have different needs, priorities and ways of performing their duties. Therefore there will always be areas of uncertainty and the need to exercise individual judgement. The following questions are designed to assist Members in coming to a decision about whether or not costs incurred are appropriate to be met from the allowances: * Is this expense genuinely incurred by me in my role as a Member of Parliament as opposed to my personal capacity? * Is this purchase supporting me in carrying out my parliamentary duties? Anything which is done for personal benefit will not be part of a Member's parliamentary duties. * Does the claim match the purpose of the allowance in question as set out later in the Green Book? * Could the claim in any way damage the reputation of Parliament or its Members? * How comfortable do I feel with the knowledge that my claim will be available to the public under Freedom of Information? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ None of the above is ‘new’ to 2009; previous editions of the Green Book are almost identical. So judge for yourself how the ‘system’ or how the ‘Fees Office’ can be to blame?
Mr. Kipling, Hove says...
3:45pm Mon 1 Jun 09
jyan wrote:£540 for gardening. What`s wrong with getting a trowel and a shovel and doing it yourself once a week? Certainly wouldn`t cost £540.
"£540 for gardening, and £520 for removing a shed from her new garden and getting rid of unwanted concrete. "
That's a ridiculous amount of money spent on those items alone! How are gardening, removing an unwanted shed and concrete legitimate expenses? The thieving cow must be looking for a new job very soon.
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Osama bin there, Brighton says...
9:19am Thu 28 May 09
Wait for...'but it ws all within the rules' comment.