Anti-Starbucks campaigners plan demos at coffee shops (From The Argus)

Silly gits why don't they protest about something important.
There is a much easier way to protest about Starbucks - don't buy coffee there.

One of the campaigners, software engineer Glenn Williams, from London Road, said: “What has become clear already is that there is still a lot of anger and people want to carry this on.”

To be sure!
999 out 0f 1000 people cannot be bothered.

GET A LIFE!

You morons.

No-one cares! Everything was done legally. And I mean EVERYTHING. Even carrying on trading while an appeal went through.

MOVE ON.

They're actually cheaper than the coffee shop more-or-less opposite, and the staff are more polite and the whole place is cleaner.

Now, stop crying about it and GO BACK TO WORK, YOU SELF-RIGHTEOUS IDIOTS.

I wonder how many Starbuck protesters use the chains on the street already? Morrisons, Boots, Superdrug? Betting shops? Forfars? Prowler?

What would happen if the chains just left? More shops that just sell the type of tat that no-one needs?

If you don't like Starbucks then don't go there. Why ruin it for people who do?

People like to protest without thinking of the consequences really. At a time when there are empty store units all over the city and people needing jobs, we should be grateful for any new store that is willing to provide a service here.

Well it should be easy to find the Starbucks for the next few days then.

Follow the sound of whinging, find a frappu-latte-half-ca
ff-whip.

Some people in Brighton live in a time-warp...this is the 21st Century.

Im not sure that continuing the demonstrations is a good idea but if one more starbucks spokesman refers to the "starbucks experience" i think ill join the protesters!

God help us will they never stop moaning!!
How about doing somthing useful with your time supporting our guys fighting overseas raising money for help the heroes or somthing similar. Don't you you guys get it yet?
Get real!!

It's never nice to be proved wrong.
They need to just go away now because they just look silly.

Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

People vote with their feet and there are more feet going in and out of Starbucks in Brighton every day than there are feet standing outside with a placard. Therefore, I would have thought it was obvious to those placard carriers that more people are content with happy Starbucks being there than aren't. Simple really, so I don't get why they are wasting their time. Perhaps they just enjoy making us laugh.

jonathon wrote:
Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Jf they must protest about something, what about a certain Vegan cafe that's just opened?

Just flip off and get lives. I can tell you now that if any of you are demonstrating outside anywhere I go you'll get a good kicking.
Get jobs. Go to work. Stop disrupting ordinary WORKING people's lives.

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote:
Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Not everyone can fit into local cafes and to be honest some of them aint that pretty.
I'm not a fan of starbucks coffee but what happened to freedom of choice?

When over 90% of people on a single forum fail to identify that a multi national corporation that keeps thousands of third world workers in poverty, wont let its own workers have a recognised union,stops desperately poor nations having their coffee beans patented...oh i dont have all night and i cant be bothered..its sad
starbucks have a history of bullying whole countries (ethiopia)as well as local traders and (with their 24 hour legal eagles theyve done it in brighton) so by a nice new green shop front in st jamess street and the "starbucks experience" you have all been fooled.
id rather be this apparent hippy (who does have a responsible job)who knows the truth than a conditioned neanderthal who doesnt know the right questions to ask

Fyrebird wrote:

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote:
Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Not everyone can fit into local cafes and to be honest some of them aint that pretty.
I'm not a fan of starbucks coffee but what happened to freedom of choice?

What rubbish I'm sure there are more than enough cafés in Brighton - there certainly were before Starbucks came along and took over a bookshop. Of course you have freedom of choice - I'm not stopping anyone spending money in Starbucks - I just thought that it would be nice to support the British economy rather than the US - surely that would be a good thing these days?

IKDRF wrote:
When over 90% of people on a single forum fail to identify that a multi national corporation that keeps thousands of third world workers in poverty, wont let its own workers have a recognised union,stops desperately poor nations having their coffee beans patented...oh i dont have all night and i cant be bothered..its sad starbucks have a history of bullying whole countries (ethiopia)as well as local traders and (with their 24 hour legal eagles theyve done it in brighton) so by a nice new green shop front in st jamess street and the "starbucks experience" you have all been fooled. id rather be this apparent hippy (who does have a responsible job)who knows the truth than a conditioned neanderthal who doesnt know the right questions to ask

That must mean you never get anything from a high street chain. Clothes, TV, etc etc and you live in a cave!

I reckon Glenn Williams is being paid by Starbucks just to keep this going. They could not buy this level of advertising which is now atracting honest people to shop there just to show we do not like to be told where to buy a coffee by this group who are acting more like Nazis than Brightonians

S.T. Rewth wrote:

IKDRF wrote:
When over 90% of people on a single forum fail to identify that a multi national corporation that keeps thousands of third world workers in poverty, wont let its own workers have a recognised union,stops desperately poor nations having their coffee beans patented...oh i dont have all night and i cant be bothered..its sad starbucks have a history of bullying whole countries (ethiopia)as well as local traders and (with their 24 hour legal eagles theyve done it in brighton) so by a nice new green shop front in st jamess street and the "starbucks experience" you have all been fooled. id rather be this apparent hippy (who does have a responsible job)who knows the truth than a conditioned neanderthal who doesnt know the right questions to ask

That must mean you never get anything from a high street chain. Clothes, TV, etc etc and you live in a cave!

If Starbucks didn't employ these so-called "Third World" workers, who would? At least they are getting SOME sort of wage...

FED UP OF PEOPLE CRYING ABOUT AFRICAN WORKERS. GO AND HELP IF YOU'RE THAT CONCERNED.

But we've sending aid for over 40 years, and nothing seems to have changed???

"Mr Williams said they wanted to let people know how the presence of chain stores, not just Starbucks, had changed the character of areas especially in North Laine and St James’s Street."

I'm waiting...

I can see how he might have a case for North laine but not St James's street, which has had chains on it for as long as I can remember(30+ years).

Starbucks is merely the latest.

If they are seriously protesting against chains, lets see protests outside corals and ladbrokes which DO adversely affect the character of the street.

Again what is the problem.Some new age lefty hippies get the publicity and it becomes news that no one cares about.

Could somebody explain to me - what is wrong with chains (of shops or coffee shops)? Or is it just ones with an american parent company.
These people ar so ill informed and outy of step with the other 99.9% of the population it would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.
I know all about Starbucks, and my choice is not to go there - but if others want to, good luck to them.
If you don't like Starbucks, or MacDonalds, or whatever - just stay away. Why spoil other people's enjoyment?
I thought this was supposed to be free country!

Conor wrote:
Jf they must protest about something, what about a certain Vegan cafe that's just opened?

Ssh, don't give it anymore advertising.

As for Starbucks, it replaced another chain store - and is one of the few (if only) coffeeshops which caters for decaf drinkers. If you don't like it, go elsewhere.

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote: Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Surely the local economy is being supported by employing local people.Or are you suggesting they travel to work from America every day!!!

peebee9 wrote:

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote: Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Surely the local economy is being supported by employing local people.Or are you suggesting they travel to work from America every day!!!

Yes I know they employ people (as would any shop in the same location), but all the profits are going back to the US rather than being spent back the UK...do I really need to explain further?

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote:
Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

it is a free country and we will drink wherever we like. protesters can also protest where they like, but shouldn't stop people using shops that they want to. i personally prefer caffe nero.

jyan wrote:

peebee9 wrote:

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote: Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Surely the local economy is being supported by employing local people.Or are you suggesting they travel to work from America every day!!!

Yes I know they employ people (as would any shop in the same location), but all the profits are going back to the US rather than being spent back the UK...do I really need to explain further?

Yes, you do, because you are talking total sh1t.
In your naivety do you think that Starbucks (UK) sends money back to the US?
And even if they did (which they don't) so f**king what?

Osama bin there wrote:

jyan wrote:

peebee9 wrote:

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote: Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Surely the local economy is being supported by employing local people.Or are you suggesting they travel to work from America every day!!!

Yes I know they employ people (as would any shop in the same location), but all the profits are going back to the US rather than being spent back the UK...do I really need to explain further?

Yes, you do, because you are talking total sh1t.
In your naivety do you think that Starbucks (UK) sends money back to the US?
And even if they did (which they don't) so f**king what?

I see you care enough to resort to swearing. Have you thought of anger management courses? Oh wait.. that would involve using some form of intelligence...

jyan wrote:

peebee9 wrote:

jyan wrote:

jonathon wrote: Why can't these lazy idiots either get a job or protest about the disgraceful state of St James Street.Thank you Argus for informing me where the other Starbuck coffee houses are, I will make sure I use them.

For God Sake use your brain and spend your money in a British or even a Brighton owned café and support the local economy instead giving money (for well over-priced coffee) to the US!

Surely the local economy is being supported by employing local people.Or are you suggesting they travel to work from America every day!!!

Yes I know they employ people (as would any shop in the same location), but all the profits are going back to the US rather than being spent back the UK...do I really need to explain further?

Being an American company a certain amount probably does end back in the USA; this is true for all US owned companies, yet we don't see these protestors outside (for example) ASDA. If you can identify two other US-owned companies that have received anything approaching this level of protest over the past year, I will donate half my earnings for July to the Argus appeal.

I'll give you EDO for the first.

If you can name any other foreign (non-US) owned company that has received anything approaching the level of protest that Starbucks St. James's St has, over the same period, I'll donate my entire july salary to any charity you care to name.

(Calm down, its not that much and I don't expect to lose anyway!)

(talking Brighton & Hove here just in case anyone thinks otherwise)

kkj, The point is that EDO and Starbucks represent all those other companies. If people in this country woke from their 30 year coma we might have enough people to protest against them all. But rest assured that there is a real anger on the streets and the day will come soon when people will wake up and realise all that has been stolen from them.

Dont you have to inform the police if you are going to demonstrate?

However, I would regard this as bullying and harrasment.

The majority of those protestors are unpleasant bullies. I was approached by them on my way into Starbucks, and when I exited with my coffee, was verbally abused and intimidated by 2 adult men. It was impossible to actually engage in an intelligent conversation with them, they just wanted to tell me what a dreadful person I was for supporting the torture of innocent people in Guantanamo Bay! So excuse me if I exercise my freedom to choose, what with this being a Capitalist country and all!

Typical selfish Brighton yummy mummies with too much time and no real understanding of ordinary people. I guess you are all lucky enough to have men keeping you at home.
You are campaigning for people to be thrown out of jobs and making their lives a misery.
Why don't you pay their salaries so they can afford to leave their jobs.
You selfish, ignorant people, harassing working class people at their workplaces.
You should be ashamed. Move back to Camden or the Home Counties where you belong.

TheInsider wrote:
Typical selfish Brighton yummy mummies with too much time and no real understanding of ordinary people. I guess you are all lucky enough to have men keeping you at home.
You are campaigning for people to be thrown out of jobs and making their lives a misery.
Why don't you pay their salaries so they can afford to leave their jobs.
You selfish, ignorant people, harassing working class people at their workplaces.
You should be ashamed. Move back to Camden or the Home Counties where you belong.

So,the locally elected council is a yummy mummy ? The MP for the area,Des Turner,is a yummy mummy ? The over 3,000 people who signed the petition against Starbucks are yummy mummies ? You are a dummy mummy !

Dr Des Turner is indeed a yummy mummy. A NuLabour betrayer of the working class who potters about in his Saab, signing petitions against job creation from the comfort of his Parliamentary pension and home in Queens Park.
I am sure Dr Turner supported your stand against the planning permission issue. I am not sure his support carries over into a persecution campaign of working people. If it does then that is even more shameful.
If he is happy to announce to his electorate (including myself) that Labour are happy to persecute working people in this way, then no wonder he has chosen not to stand for re-election.
As a life-long union member, I understand the campaign against planning permission, but continuing to get people thrown out of their jobs now it is a legitimate business, is yet another slap in the face for ordinary people who do not have the luxury of choosing on moral ground who their employer is.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

TheInsider wrote:
Dr Des Turner is indeed a yummy mummy. A NuLabour betrayer of the working class who potters about in his Saab, signing petitions against job creation from the comfort of his Parliamentary pension and home in Queens Park.
I am sure Dr Turner supported your stand against the planning permission issue. I am not sure his support carries over into a persecution campaign of working people. If it does then that is even more shameful.
If he is happy to announce to his electorate (including myself) that Labour are happy to persecute working people in this way, then no wonder he has chosen not to stand for re-election.
As a life-long union member, I understand the campaign against planning permission, but continuing to get people thrown out of their jobs now it is a legitimate business, is yet another slap in the face for ordinary people who do not have the luxury of choosing on moral ground who their employer is.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

What a load of nonsense - where is the proof that people are getting thrown out of their jobs? Sounds like Starbucks are still do a reasonable trade regardless of protests hence still staffed as normal.