City's student issue ‘being ignored’ (From The Argus)

there will always be problems when you get a large student population, but people have to learn to give and take. locals have the right to peace and quiet, but have to accept some 'high jinks' from students. students must also realise that they are not the only ones living in an area, and ensure that their behaviour is reasonable. in oxford we had some students, worse the wear from drink, abuse a bus driver. they were dismissed from the college. they had only been here 2 weeks. what a waste. universities and colleges have a responsibility to ensure that theie students behave, and should dismiss any who cannot .

Now davyboy what sort of high jinks should we accept.
Kicking over the wheelie bins and the recycling bins as they head into town for a drink every single night leaving residents and the council to shovel up stinking cra* every morning? Shouting and screaming every single night as they go out in large groups for a drink at 11pm (now extended drinking has lead to a later start) and then again at 5am and 6am as they head home. What about staying up all, every night, screaming the house down as they play indoor football against the living room wall and computer games because the contact hours they have in college are now so few that they now live a nocturnal life? Football in the street with gangs of students at 3am kicking balls into vehicles, parties with students running over cars denting roofs, students standing outside homes talking loudly on mobiles and smoking at 4am as they cannot smoke indoors. Being called an f-ing C*** when you politely ask for them to keep noise down after 11pm on a working week day? Or is it acceptable for them to tell my elderly neighbour who is being treated for cancer to **ck off and die this is student town?
Unfortunately, davyboy we are no longer talking about the odd issue of a few kids getting drunk and over excited, on a Friday and Saturday night. We are talking about a serious escalation in extreme anti-social behaviour all week. University no longer means, well-mannered young people going to college and sometimes throwing the odd road sign about. Some of these students are extremely unpleasant, aggressive and education no longer means having a set of social values.
Uni is now open to anyone as long as they pay.
At the moment I have four really good students next door but this has been the first time in four years of our street being blighted by students who would receive ASBOs or eviction notices if they were ordinary people behaving in this manner, but in recent years davyboy, just like you, people seemed to think "high jinks" was ok and it was not dealt with and now whole areas of the town are blighted by a sector of the community who are not even full time council tax paying residents.
The residents in my street have united now in zero tolerance, we are taking on the universities, the landlords, the letting agents and the council's noise and environmental health people have been a fantastic support.
It's sad that the relationship between students and residents has reached this situation, as have welcomed students in the past ten years, but for some reason in the past five years, the standard of student behaviour hit rock bottom.
Is it lack of contact hours and demand the courses put on students giving them too much free time? Is it the extended drinking hours? Is it the fact they can borrow money so readily so huge numbers no longer work part time and don't have to go to bed? Is it the increase in absent buy-to-let landlords failing to manage tenants?
You tell us?

TheInsider wrote:
Now davyboy what sort of high jinks should we accept.
Kicking over the wheelie bins and the recycling bins as they head into town for a drink every single night leaving residents and the council to shovel up stinking cra* every morning? Shouting and screaming every single night as they go out in large groups for a drink at 11pm (now extended drinking has lead to a later start) and then again at 5am and 6am as they head home. What about staying up all, every night, screaming the house down as they play indoor football against the living room wall and computer games because the contact hours they have in college are now so few that they now live a nocturnal life? Football in the street with gangs of students at 3am kicking balls into vehicles, parties with students running over cars denting roofs, students standing outside homes talking loudly on mobiles and smoking at 4am as they cannot smoke indoors. Being called an f-ing C*** when you politely ask for them to keep noise down after 11pm on a working week day? Or is it acceptable for them to tell my elderly neighbour who is being treated for cancer to **ck off and die this is student town?
Unfortunately, davyboy we are no longer talking about the odd issue of a few kids getting drunk and over excited, on a Friday and Saturday night. We are talking about a serious escalation in extreme anti-social behaviour all week. University no longer means, well-mannered young people going to college and sometimes throwing the odd road sign about. Some of these students are extremely unpleasant, aggressive and education no longer means having a set of social values.
Uni is now open to anyone as long as they pay.
At the moment I have four really good students next door but this has been the first time in four years of our street being blighted by students who would receive ASBOs or eviction notices if they were ordinary people behaving in this manner, but in recent years davyboy, just like you, people seemed to think "high jinks" was ok and it was not dealt with and now whole areas of the town are blighted by a sector of the community who are not even full time council tax paying residents.
The residents in my street have united now in zero tolerance, we are taking on the universities, the landlords, the letting agents and the council's noise and environmental health people have been a fantastic support.
It's sad that the relationship between students and residents has reached this situation, as have welcomed students in the past ten years, but for some reason in the past five years, the standard of student behaviour hit rock bottom.
Is it lack of contact hours and demand the courses put on students giving them too much free time? Is it the extended drinking hours? Is it the fact they can borrow money so readily so huge numbers no longer work part time and don't have to go to bed? Is it the increase in absent buy-to-let landlords failing to manage tenants?
You tell us?

Well said. Not the difference between Oxford and what was Brighton poly. the Oxford students were on the bus. Brighton students have cars

students should not be banned from areas but treated like other nuisance residents with the full force of the authorities and repeat offenders should be expelled from their course. students universities the council and police should work together. the landlord supplies the property with all the regulation and legislation that comes with it, unfortunately the lets are usually through an agent or the university and so the landlord does not always know what types of students they are getting. it is a multi facitied solution and banning them from certain areas is yet another knee jerk nonsense from a silly green party with no real policy.

Far from sweeping this issue under the carpet I am drafting in some specialist jargon to deal with it this will include: integrate into future development, range of partners, needs of communities and area based approach.
In the past jargon has been used very effectively to mask a total lack achievement and effort.

Thank you

BHCC

There was a meeting with the local councillors & PCSO's etc in Hanover a few weeks ago. They were not ready for the venue to be full of residents who have had enough of the students in our local area. Hanover used to be a nice area, a good mix of home owners, working people & students. Not now, rubbish in the street all week long. just try talking to the student rats & you get told to f off. I'm only 30 & I've seen the area decline in the 9 years since I brought my house.

Sorry Davyboy high jinx we have had to experience is a group of students trying to set fire to my motorbike, kicking our cars in, being sick & urinating in doorways. One of my elderly neighbours is petrified at nights! It is not high jinx it is criminal damage these brats cause.

Why should I be woken up at 3am on a weeknight by a bunch of shouting & violent neanderthals. I went to university & never behaved like these ferral brats. Then again I had a decent upbringing.

& if coun Wrighton really cared she'd of done something years ago when we the residents told our local representitives to. We didn't care about the fluffy rubbish they wanted to implement at the time. Sort out the important issues then move on to the fluffy ones not the other way round.

There was a meeting with the local councillors & PCSO's etc in Hanover a few weeks ago. They were not ready for the venue to be full of residents who have had enough of the students in our local area. Hanover used to be a nice area, a good mix of home owners, working people & students. Not now, rubbish in the street all week long. just try talking to the student rats & you get told to f off. I'm only 30 & I've seen the area decline in the 9 years since I brought my house.

Sorry Davyboy high jinx we have had to experience is a group of students trying to set fire to my motorbike, kicking our cars in, being sick & urinating in doorways. One of my elderly neighbours is petrified at nights! It is not high jinx it is criminal damage these brats cause.

Why should I be woken up at 3am on a weeknight by a bunch of shouting & violent neanderthals. I went to university & never behaved like these ferral brats. Then again I had a decent upbringing.

& if coun Wrighton really cared she'd of done something years ago when we the residents told our local representitives to. We didn't care about the fluffy rubbish they wanted to implement at the time. Sort out the important issues then move on to the fluffy ones not the other way round.

Wilftop, next time there is a public meeting about the issue, I will come along with some of my neighbours.
The more people who get together to demand action, the better.
If the colleges don't take action against students my neighbours are considering setting up a website of the students in action in my street with audio and then let's see how the colleges like their reputations damaged in the same way our communities are.

I think that is a great idea Insider, it might be one of the only ways we can get the uni's to understand the detremental effect this is having on the area & thier reputations.