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    Old Ladys Gin wrote:
    Yes but realise that these were not police officers, they were PCSOs or whatever they are called.
    They are quasi police with few powers, and less education than a main stream police officer.
    It is perfectly plain that they were overstepping any kind of reasonable mark.
    A lot of the general public do not realise what powers these quasi officers have, I suggest you Google it and find out. It may surprise you to discover that they have very few, and certainly not what appears to have been attempted here.
    Are we to let anyone in a uniform, even an ill fitting one, dictate to us?
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    To provide a uiniformed, official presence in a specified area with the aim of improving the quality of life in the community, making its people feel confident and reassured
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    By the use of powers and working with partners and community organisations to address anti-social behaviour, the fear of crime, environmental issues and other factors which affect the quality of people's lives

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    Issue fixed penalty notices (FPNs) for cycling on the pavement
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    Issue local authority FPNs for dog fouling and litter
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    ************ Demand name and address of people acting in an anti-social manner or committing a relevant offence*************
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    Seize alcohol from people in designated no drinking areas
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    Seize alcohol from young people
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    Seize tobacco from young people
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    Enter property to save life or limb or prevent serious damage
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    Seize vehicles used to cause alarm, etc
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    Remove abandoned vehicles
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    Carry out Section 4 PACE road checks
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    Stop vehicles for testing
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    Enforce cordoned areas (S.36 Terrorism Act 2000)
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    Stop and search vehicles and items carried by persons under Ss.44 and 45 of the Terrorism Act 2000
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    Disperse groups and remove young persons to their place of residence (Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003)


    seems like they are well with in there rights to do what they did"
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Brighton photographer stopped for taking 'terror' festive lights photos

O SANTA BIN LADEN? Andrew White O SANTA BIN LADEN? Andrew White

A photographer wanted to capture images of Christmas lights – but ended up having his details recorded under anti-terror laws.

Andrew White, 33, from Kemp Town, Brighton, was taking snaps of the decorations in Burgess Hill town centre when two Police Community Support Officers started following him as he walked to work.

The two female PCSOs then stopped him and asked why he had been taking pictures and if he was a professional photographer.

When he asked why they wanted to know, the PCSOs told him it was to do with counter-terrorism legislation and demanded his personal details, including his name and address.

Mr White said: “I had nothing to hide so I just provided the details.

“Now I’m concerned about where those details are going to end up.

“I only took one or two photos but even if I had taken more, who are they to say what is too many? I don’t think taking too many photos in the street warrants being considered some kind of terrorist threat, which is what they were suggesting.

“I think the money spent on getting PCSOs to waste my time and harass me in the street could be better spent elsewhere.”

Mr White said the two women PCSOs were polite but they insisted that they had to take his details because they had stopped him.

A Sussex Police spokesman said the officers spoke to Mr White because they were concerned he was taking too many photographs in a busy shopping area.

He said: “They were acting in good faith, balancing individual liberty against the need to ensure public safety.”

Under the 2002 Police Reform Act PCSOs have the power to demand the name and address of a person suspected of committing a criminal offence or for antisocial behaviour.

However, the growing use of this power to stop photographers is being critised.

On Sunday, BBC staff photographer Jeff Overs told the Politics Show how was stopped by PCSOs for taking a picture of a sunset.

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