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Worthing doctor slams unregulated doulas


A hospital doctor has criticised the growing trend among pregnant women to hire birth partners to help them when they go into labour.

Trainee anaesthetist Abhijoy Chakladar, who works at Worthing Hospital, said using doulas could compromise patient care.

Writing in the online British Medical Journal, Dr Chakladar, said doulas, who act as pregnancy and birth partners, are unregulated and should not be involved in medical decisions.

He said: "This trend may be a sad reflection of failures in the delivery of medical and midwifery care, a sticking plaster concealing greater problems.

Dr Chakladar, said a doula had compromised the care he offered one patient.

He gave the patient a top-up of epidural pain relief during labour after she complained of discomfort and said she should lie on her side.

The doula interjected to say that the mother was comfortable as she was and the patient ended up staying as she was.

Dr Chakladar said he should have spoken directly to the mother and not the doula.

He said he was "disappointed by the real or perceived need for doulas", saying it was the duty of doctors, nurses and midwives to support mothers and families "through a very special but potentially frightening experience".

He said people feared the unknown and this, coupled with the time-pressured environment on hospital wards, "takes control away from the individual".

Dr Chakladar said staff shortages and shift changes often made continuity of care impossible which was why some women may opt to have a doula so there was someone there throughout.

Louise Silverton, deputy general secretary of the Royal College of Midwives (RCM), said: "There is no doubt that some doulas are performing a role that should be done by midwives."

She added: "Women need emotional support during and after their pregnancy and in the absence of social networks like family, doulas can provide this.

"My concern is that women are perhaps using doulas because the maternity services are struggling to provide one-to-one care, and that midwives, who are not just trained clinical experts but are also skilled in emotional support, are currently finding it challenging to provide continuity of care."

Bridget Baker, co-chair and courses co-ordinator for Doula UK, said: "Dr Chakladar raises some salient points.

"Doulas are neither employed to provide clients with clinical care, nor to overstep the boundaries of their role, providing purely lay emotional and practical support."

Doulas are not usually medically qualified but have been growing in popularity and have been used by several celebrities.

Around 1,000 are currently thought to be working in the UK. Doula UK is the largest organisation in Britain with some 450 registered doulas and it has seen demand rise substantially in the past 15 years.

Doulas can cost anything from £200 to more than £1,000 and tailor their services to the needs of the mother and any partner.

Comments(18)

Sophie29 says...
9:54am Wed 2 Dec 09

I completely agree with this article. Women are more and more being conditioned to "fear" childbirth and especially the need for medical intervention. Doula's feed on this fear and often use it to slam the doctors and midwives whose sole job it is to ensure a healthy delivery for both mother and child. Doulas are not responsible professionals whose practices are kept up to date and monitored and regulated like doctors and nurses are required to do. I am not against mothers having all the moral support they need in labour and to be fully informed of their choices when it comes to childbirth, but people need to start to trust their midwives and doctors. To listen to a doula's advice over a trained professional is madness. Even more madness to spend £2000 for it.

LovelyBoyRuss says...
10:14am Wed 2 Dec 09

Well said, Sophie. Some people have got more money than sense and end up harming themselves and the health of their babies.

Sally97 says...
10:56am Wed 2 Dec 09

I don't think the headline on this article reflects what Dr Chakladar is actually saying. Although he appears to have had a "run in" with a doula, his disappointment is on the unfortunate constraints placed on midwifery services in the NHS and how they can sometimes fail new parents. Doulas exist not to replace or conflict with the medical establishment, but to compliment it - to work with it in order for women to achieve the best birth experience possible. As a doula myself, I feel qualified to comment here as I have worked with some fantastic midwives and have built strong relationships with the medical establishments throughout East and West Sussex. Our role is clearly defined and is client led, so anything we do or say stems from our client. Most doulas are members of DoulaUK (not for profit association run by doulas to support doulas) thereby signing up to their code of conduct and philosophy. Our fees are anything from £200 to £1000 dependent on experience and many (myself included) work for expenses only supporting low income and often single mothers. There is absolutely no fear mongering going on, only empowerment and support.

Charismatic Andrew says...
11:23am Wed 2 Dec 09

Frankly I don't really care what a "trainee anaesthetist" thinks.

Lil says...
11:28am Wed 2 Dec 09

But I'm more likely to care what he thinks than what you do; unless of course you also have some experience of the admission of anaesthetics, or are we an armchair pundit who wouldn't know really one way or another?

Charismatic Andrew says...
1:22pm Wed 2 Dec 09

Lil wrote:
But I'm more likely to care what he thinks than what you do; unless of course you also have some experience of the admission of anaesthetics, or are we an armchair pundit who wouldn't know really one way or another?
As someone who had to deliver their daughter on his own because of a lack of NHS midwives I would be keen to protect the right of the mother to choose whatever birthing partner they like. At least then someone is guaranteed to be on hand to help out.

Sophie29 says...
1:31pm Wed 2 Dec 09

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Lil wrote:
But I'm more likely to care what he thinks than what you do; unless of course you also have some experience of the admission of anaesthetics, or are we an armchair pundit who wouldn't know really one way or another?
As someone who had to deliver their daughter on his own because of a lack of NHS midwives I would be keen to protect the right of the mother to choose whatever birthing partner they like. At least then someone is guaranteed to be on hand to help out.
Unfortunately Andrew this is part of the problems with Doulas. They are not ALLOWED to help out. They cannot deliver babies. They are not midwife replacements. They are there for advice and support only. If a scared, nervous, confused mother in the throws of childbirth listens to a doula (who Im sure are lovely and do have their place in the child birth process) rather than a medically trained professional, then things can and DO go wrong and can sometimes go drastically wrong.
Ultimately though everyone is working toward a healthy baby and healthy mum.
Sophie

Granny says...
2:21pm Wed 2 Dec 09

I agree with the idea of having birthing partners or doulas as they are now called, but they should restrict their actions to being there as support and comfort for the mum to be and not interfere in the medical side of things.

Charismatic Andrew says...
4:11pm Wed 2 Dec 09

Sophie29 wrote:
Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Lil wrote: But I'm more likely to care what he thinks than what you do; unless of course you also have some experience of the admission of anaesthetics, or are we an armchair pundit who wouldn't know really one way or another?
As someone who had to deliver their daughter on his own because of a lack of NHS midwives I would be keen to protect the right of the mother to choose whatever birthing partner they like. At least then someone is guaranteed to be on hand to help out.
Unfortunately Andrew this is part of the problems with Doulas. They are not ALLOWED to help out. They cannot deliver babies. They are not midwife replacements. They are there for advice and support only. If a scared, nervous, confused mother in the throws of childbirth listens to a doula (who Im sure are lovely and do have their place in the child birth process) rather than a medically trained professional, then things can and DO go wrong and can sometimes go drastically wrong. Ultimately though everyone is working toward a healthy baby and healthy mum. Sophie
Thanks Sophie.

£2000 and they don't even have to do anything?!? I'm in the wrong job.

yorkie44 says...
5:17pm Wed 2 Dec 09

It just sounds a bit trendy to me. However, if the mother wants this I can see no problem provided the hospital concerned agrees the terms of reference with the mother. If the doula interfers and things go wrong the mother and doula have to accept the consequences not the NHS

robsurmer says...
6:30pm Wed 2 Dec 09

I don't know where this job originated- can someone enlighten me?- I do however speak fluent modern Greek and the word 'doula' means slave and is a derogatory term in Greece!

David Wild Honey says...
9:04pm Wed 2 Dec 09

Mr Chakladar is hinting that the NHS system for childbirth is not providing what people want. He is right.

This my opinion: The NHS does not allow a place for midwife led, natural home birth, and needs to change.

I was a partner in a happy home birth. Our approach was to aim for home birth, but to accept that things don't always turn out as we might want, and be prepared for a trip to a hospital.

We did a lot of study before birth. We opted for home birth, because we felt that the NHS system is not good for natural birth. Birthing is a natural process that does not normally need medical intervention. The NHS system is not good at delivering babies free of complications, compared to midwife-led home birth.

The NHS employs some wonderful, experienced midwives, but they are not available when you need them. Before birth, you may queue for hours for an appointment, then they are rushed off their feet, and can even be irritable as a result (my experience).

At birth, you may find that the first hospital you visit is full, or if you are trying for a home birth, that there is no one available to visit you at home (friend's experience). In either case, the person who acts as your midwife may be a virtual stranger who may need to change shifts with another stranger during your labour.

The NHS offers little support for home birth, despite statistics that show homebirth is safer than hospital birth. Hospital births are prone to complications, for reasons I give below.

Around one in three hospital births ends in caesarian section. Home births rarely do, although some home births do end up in hospitals.

Giving birth in hospital means that deviations from 'normal' birth invite medical intervention, and once intervention starts, it is likely to end up with a caesarian.

Mothers expecting a hospital birth often do less to prepare themselves mentally and physically for birth. When a mother is admitted to hospital, the clock starts ticking from preset markers, such as when the waters break. If she takes too long to start her contractions, she is given drugs to induce contractions. (An experienced midwife, working at home might give the mum more time). When strangers in a hospital, including trainee doctors, are observing a mother giving birth, the natural process of sphincter relaxation can hesitate. She's pushing but the sphincter won't open. It's painful. Then the doctor administers an epidural anaesthetic. This reduces mobility, and the mother cannot feel her lower half. Now it is even harder to deliver naturally. One in three mums who go to hospital to have their baby end up with the baby having to be cut out of their womb (that's what it means to have a caesarean).

It's no surprise really. Birth needs a quiet, safe, affirming environment. Not the macho, target driven environment of a modern hospital.

The problem is, the NHS does not support home birth. They warn you that midwives may not be available to come to your home. That is why people hire private birthing partners. Fully qualified midwives cost £2,500 over the six months period prior to birth, while doulas cost half that, or even work for free. Its not surprising that Mr Chakladar ended up in a tussle with a doula over how to manage a birth.

What is needed is for the NHS to recognise that having a baby is not the same as appendicitis. It is not an emergency operation.

"Having a baby is the most natural thing in the world". The human body is able to have a baby in most cases without any help. The fact that around one in three babies in UK are delivered by caesarian section is a damning indictment of the UK system (the figure is one the highest in the world),

We DO need emergency wards for when things go wrong.

It is hard to impossible for the NHS midwives to promise to get to every home birth.

What is needed is dedicated birthing centres, with soft lighting and warm pools, trained masseurs and doulas and midwives, and a place where brash anaesthetists, arms length doctors, and epidurals are confined to the emergency ward where they belong.

Natural birthing should be led by midwives, not by doctors or anaesthetists or untrained doulas, who should act as support.


Sophie29 says...
9:34pm Wed 2 Dec 09

David Wild Honey wrote:
Mr Chakladar is hinting that the NHS system for childbirth is not providing what people want. He is right.

This my opinion: The NHS does not allow a place for midwife led, natural home birth, and needs to change.

I was a partner in a happy home birth. Our approach was to aim for home birth, but to accept that things don't always turn out as we might want, and be prepared for a trip to a hospital.

We did a lot of study before birth. We opted for home birth, because we felt that the NHS system is not good for natural birth. Birthing is a natural process that does not normally need medical intervention. The NHS system is not good at delivering babies free of complications, compared to midwife-led home birth.

The NHS employs some wonderful, experienced midwives, but they are not available when you need them. Before birth, you may queue for hours for an appointment, then they are rushed off their feet, and can even be irritable as a result (my experience).

At birth, you may find that the first hospital you visit is full, or if you are trying for a home birth, that there is no one available to visit you at home (friend's experience). In either case, the person who acts as your midwife may be a virtual stranger who may need to change shifts with another stranger during your labour.

The NHS offers little support for home birth, despite statistics that show homebirth is safer than hospital birth. Hospital births are prone to complications, for reasons I give below.

Around one in three hospital births ends in caesarian section. Home births rarely do, although some home births do end up in hospitals.

Giving birth in hospital means that deviations from 'normal' birth invite medical intervention, and once intervention starts, it is likely to end up with a caesarian.

Mothers expecting a hospital birth often do less to prepare themselves mentally and physically for birth. When a mother is admitted to hospital, the clock starts ticking from preset markers, such as when the waters break. If she takes too long to start her contractions, she is given drugs to induce contractions. (An experienced midwife, working at home might give the mum more time). When strangers in a hospital, including trainee doctors, are observing a mother giving birth, the natural process of sphincter relaxation can hesitate. She's pushing but the sphincter won't open. It's painful. Then the doctor administers an epidural anaesthetic. This reduces mobility, and the mother cannot feel her lower half. Now it is even harder to deliver naturally. One in three mums who go to hospital to have their baby end up with the baby having to be cut out of their womb (that's what it means to have a caesarean).

It's no surprise really. Birth needs a quiet, safe, affirming environment. Not the macho, target driven environment of a modern hospital.

The problem is, the NHS does not support home birth. They warn you that midwives may not be available to come to your home. That is why people hire private birthing partners. Fully qualified midwives cost £2,500 over the six months period prior to birth, while doulas cost half that, or even work for free. Its not surprising that Mr Chakladar ended up in a tussle with a doula over how to manage a birth.

What is needed is for the NHS to recognise that having a baby is not the same as appendicitis. It is not an emergency operation.

"Having a baby is the most natural thing in the world". The human body is able to have a baby in most cases without any help. The fact that around one in three babies in UK are delivered by caesarian section is a damning indictment of the UK system (the figure is one the highest in the world),

We DO need emergency wards for when things go wrong.

It is hard to impossible for the NHS midwives to promise to get to every home birth.

What is needed is dedicated birthing centres, with soft lighting and warm pools, trained masseurs and doulas and midwives, and a place where brash anaesthetists, arms length doctors, and epidurals are confined to the emergency ward where they belong.

Natural birthing should be led by midwives, not by doctors or anaesthetists or untrained doulas, who should act as support.

David, Im sorry but I have to disagree with some of your arguments.
First of all the caesarian rate in 2008 in the UK was 24% which is 1 in four births (a quarter) not 1 in 3 births - quite a big difference Im sure you will agree to your quoted statistic.
Second of all this statistic does not take into account the varied reasons women chose to have a caesarian. Is it at the request of the mother? Is it because there has been some antenatal issue where it has been felt by all parties that a surgical delivery is safest? Or is it because what has started out as a normal delivery is not going as planned and an emergency caesarian has to be performed.
I completely agree with you that labour is a natural process but it is also a highly dangerous state to be in for the women. You forget that until recently, death during or around the time of labour was the main cause of death in young women and it is advances in antenatal and post natal care that has so dramatically reduced this. While I am all for a natural birth process, I am more for safe delivery. Doctors are not "itching" to intervene in delivery but do so because they feel it is not worth the risk to see if things sort themselves out or not. No one is forced to have an epidural either. My experience is that many beg for it.
I quite agree that our delivery services are severely underfunded and that there is a shortage of midwives, but private midwives and home births are not the answer to this.
Also, yes the majority of home births are safe and uneventful but even the most routine deliveries do have the potential to go wrong and when they do they can go dramatically wrong.
Myself, I am lucky to have had two natural painkiller free waterbirths but I had them within the safe confines of Worthing Hospital where there are wonderful NHS midwives and experienced doctors on hand ready to save my and my childrens lives at a seconds notice.

Charismatic Andrew says...
8:30am Thu 3 Dec 09

I would advise anyone to stay well clear of home births.

We opted for a home birth and that's why I ended up delivering my daughter myself - because no one was available to help.

Community midwives (who assist with homebirths) only work 9-5. Unfortunately unborn babies aren't aware of this and can come at any time.

If we hadn't opted for a home birth we'd have been in hospital getting assistance.

Still well clear of home births until the NHS is properly resourced.

tilburyre says...
8:54am Thu 3 Dec 09

People actually PAY fro these untrained doulas (whoever and what ever they are)???????

It's like paying for a life coach - another untrained, useless, expensive accessory of modern life.

Women have managed for all this time without a doula. They shouldn't bee fooled into paying money for nothing now.

Txa says...
10:17am Thu 3 Dec 09

The thing is that having a homebirth empowers mothers and can make the bound with your child stronger and be a happy mum. I'm not under the illusion that it cannot be complications and that is what hospitals are for. All my children are homeborn(1without midwife, 2 choose not to have a midwife, 3 with a midwife), all the experiences has been different but with positive outcomes. I would advice women that choose homebirth, get well inform about all the birth issues, and it is essential a good gentle physical and mental preparation (yoga is excellent) since the moment you are pregnant. Waterbirth it can be a good choose if you can afford it. I agree with David, homebirth and natural birth centres are the way to go.




Beanigan says...
11:47am Thu 3 Dec 09

Sophie29 wrote:
Charismatic Andrew wrote:
Lil wrote: But I'm more likely to care what he thinks than what you do; unless of course you also have some experience of the admission of anaesthetics, or are we an armchair pundit who wouldn't know really one way or another?
As someone who had to deliver their daughter on his own because of a lack of NHS midwives I would be keen to protect the right of the mother to choose whatever birthing partner they like. At least then someone is guaranteed to be on hand to help out.
Unfortunately Andrew this is part of the problems with Doulas. They are not ALLOWED to help out. They cannot deliver babies. They are not midwife replacements. They are there for advice and support only. If a scared, nervous, confused mother in the throws of childbirth listens to a doula (who Im sure are lovely and do have their place in the child birth process) rather than a medically trained professional, then things can and DO go wrong and can sometimes go drastically wrong. Ultimately though everyone is working toward a healthy baby and healthy mum. Sophie
Sophie, you are absolutely correct. Things can go drastically wrong due to the simple fact that these mothers have placed their trust in the Doula's and will opt for their advice over an emergency practitioner who has just appeared at the scene of labour (whether that be a Dr, Paramedic or Midwife).

As the mothers have built a relationship with the doula's, advice they give can overshadow that of the medical profession. I know of an instance in Brighton where a doula had called for an ambulance (to cover herself) but told the mother not to listen to the paramedic's advice and to stay in the water pool although the baby was stuck. Unfortunately this story had a tragic outcome where the baby died. Doula's are not medical professionals and if a mother to be does want more personal one-on-one care, please opt for a private midwife who at least is medically trained.

David Wild Honey says...
2:14pm Sat 5 Dec 09

Thanks for correcting me, Sophie29. You are right, the national figure for caesareans is about one in four hospital births. The figure I was thinking of: 31% of 2,200 births in 2009 at the combined Princess Royal Hospital, Haywards Heath, Royal Sussex County Hospital, Brighton in 2009. 12% of these were elective. Also, I hear that Worthing is a relatively good Hospital to give birth, the rate there was 29%. But my point remains. In 1990, 6% of births at the Royal Sussex ended up as Caesarian. Now, 31%! If you can get the rate down to 6% or even 2% as some home-birth practitioners claim, why not?
Let's go one step further. Imagine a midwife led birthing unit attached to the Royal Sussex Brighton, with soft lighting and birth pools, that supports home birth with increased midwife availability. Can we afford it? Well, ask yourself how much a 31% Caesarian delivery rate of 2,200 births (and over 40% intervention if you include inductions and other interventions) costs in Doctor and Anaesthetist fees. I guess reducing Caesarian rates would easily pay for a midwife led birth centre. Of course, you would need to convince the establishment of said Doctors that a midwife centre can do the job better. Some of them cannot imagine a birth process guided by empathy and physical and mental preparation.
I'm not proposing that we do away with emergency treatment, but rather, that we deal with natural birth in a different way. And the source of my data? http://www.birthchoi
ceuk.com/


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