Brighton to get cyclist counting machines

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A series of large machines which show how many people are Cycling in Brighton and Hove are to be installed.

The city will be the first place in the country to get the real-time counters after winning funding from the European Union and Cycling England.

The counters will be placed at the seafront cycle lane, opposite the Grand Hotel, the east side of the A23, at the edge of Surrenden Park or opposite Leahurst Court Road and along the A270 Lewes Road, opposite Moulsecoomb Library.

The displays can be configured to show several different totals such as daily bicycle traffic and annual bicycle traffic.

The counters will be installed at the A23 and A270 by March and on the seafront in early summer.

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12:49pm Wed 30 Dec 09

sussexone says...

why? what does this prove lol....

What next, machines to count the number of one legged dogs?
why? what does this prove lol.... What next, machines to count the number of one legged dogs? sussexone
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12:49pm Wed 30 Dec 09

kraftwerker says...

And these will serve what purpose? Do we really need to know who's on a bike, and who's not? Is this really a Green issue, or just a not-really-relevant novelty? Dull, dull, dull. Some idiot on a bike with no road-sense will still come close to knocking me over anyway, so why get excited???
And these will serve what purpose? Do we really need to know who's on a bike, and who's not? Is this really a Green issue, or just a not-really-relevant novelty? Dull, dull, dull. Some idiot on a bike with no road-sense will still come close to knocking me over anyway, so why get excited??? kraftwerker
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1:11pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Granny says...

WHO CARES???????????????
??????
WHO CARES??????????????? ?????? Granny
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1:12pm Wed 30 Dec 09

ICantThinkOfAName says...

Will they count the pavement cyclists?
Will they count the pavement cyclists? ICantThinkOfAName
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1:12pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Voice of Unreason says...

Is it April 1st?
Much more interesting would be to put this machine by the traffic lights at The Level and count how many cyclists run the red light there. Or the number of cyclists that cycle the wrong way down St James St.
Is it April 1st? Much more interesting would be to put this machine by the traffic lights at The Level and count how many cyclists run the red light there. Or the number of cyclists that cycle the wrong way down St James St. Voice of Unreason
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1:27pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Charlotte Vere says...

Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) ....

I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks.

Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion) Charlotte Vere
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1:28pm Wed 30 Dec 09

A. Nell says...

Ummmm and when they have this mine of useless information what EXACTLY are they going to with it...i know jack s**t

Maybe they would better off using the money to fix the pot holes instead ??
Ummmm and when they have this mine of useless information what EXACTLY are they going to with it...i know jack s**t Maybe they would better off using the money to fix the pot holes instead ?? A. Nell
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1:36pm Wed 30 Dec 09

RickH says...

Charlotte Vere wrote:
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
So is the Tory Parliamentary Candidate against sustainable transport policies or just against bureaucracy?
[quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)[/p][/quote]So is the Tory Parliamentary Candidate against sustainable transport policies or just against bureaucracy? RickH
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1:40pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Charlotte Vere says...

Just bureaucracy - I am a great supporter of sustainable transport policies - although I am a walker rather than a cyclist myself.

Best wishes,

Charlotte Vere
Just bureaucracy - I am a great supporter of sustainable transport policies - although I am a walker rather than a cyclist myself. Best wishes, Charlotte Vere Charlotte Vere
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1:47pm Wed 30 Dec 09

freddo says...

hope you don't walk in the cycle lanes, Charlotte ;)
hope you don't walk in the cycle lanes, Charlotte ;) freddo
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1:52pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Wiggsy says...

Perhaps its to measure the amount of idiots who think traffic will see them in the dark whilst cycling on the road, with no rear/front lights, no reflective equipment and no crack hat.

It never fails to amaze me each morning and/or night, too see cyclists who do not have the modicum of safety equipment; the above requirements should be made law, it might mean the NHS would less stretched having to deal with their RTA injuries that could have easily avoided
Perhaps its to measure the amount of idiots who think traffic will see them in the dark whilst cycling on the road, with no rear/front lights, no reflective equipment and no crack hat. It never fails to amaze me each morning and/or night, too see cyclists who do not have the modicum of safety equipment; the above requirements should be made law, it might mean the NHS would less stretched having to deal with their RTA injuries that could have easily avoided Wiggsy
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1:56pm Wed 30 Dec 09

S.T. Rewth says...

Will it count the kids that keep riding through it to see how high it can go?

Waste-of-money
Will it count the kids that keep riding through it to see how high it can go? Waste-of-money S.T. Rewth
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2:22pm Wed 30 Dec 09

RickH says...

Charlotte Vere wrote:
Just bureaucracy - I am a great supporter of sustainable transport policies - although I am a walker rather than a cyclist myself. Best wishes, Charlotte Vere
So how else would you propose ascertaining metrics to ensure effective and effecient use of public funding to promote sustainable transport policies with resorting to 'bureaucracy'? Do you believe that current political climate, coloured by the MPs' expenses scandal, means that we should have tighter control over monitoring and spending of public funds or less control? And if more, how do you propose to achieve that with less 'bureaucracy'? Finally, please explain what you mean by 'bureaucracy'?
[quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Just bureaucracy - I am a great supporter of sustainable transport policies - although I am a walker rather than a cyclist myself. Best wishes, Charlotte Vere[/p][/quote]So how else would you propose ascertaining metrics to ensure effective and effecient use of public funding to promote sustainable transport policies with resorting to 'bureaucracy'? Do you believe that current political climate, coloured by the MPs' expenses scandal, means that we should have tighter control over monitoring and spending of public funds or less control? And if more, how do you propose to achieve that with less 'bureaucracy'? Finally, please explain what you mean by 'bureaucracy'? RickH
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2:40pm Wed 30 Dec 09

bibble says...

So, this scheme is getting funding from the EU and Cycling England (a DOT baby). Both of those are paid for by the tax payers.

Have these people never heard that there is a recession going on? I suppose not, as they are funded by the tax payers.
So, this scheme is getting funding from the EU and Cycling England (a DOT baby). Both of those are paid for by the tax payers. Have these people never heard that there is a recession going on? I suppose not, as they are funded by the tax payers. bibble
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3:41pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Think about it says...

Come on Charlotte, aren't you going to answer RickH's question? It seems like a reasonable one to me. Perhaps you just want to leave your comment at "I am against bureaucracy" because, like what most politicians say, it sounds good but is ultimately meaningless. I myself am in favour or fluffy bunnies and think crime is a bad thing, vote for me!
Come on Charlotte, aren't you going to answer RickH's question? It seems like a reasonable one to me. Perhaps you just want to leave your comment at "I am against bureaucracy" because, like what most politicians say, it sounds good but is ultimately meaningless. I myself am in favour or fluffy bunnies and think crime is a bad thing, vote for me! Think about it
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4:12pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Gentleman Jim says...

Well this has made my day, I am thinking how quickly I can slip in to all conversations " Did you know Brighton has the first Cycle Counting Machines".
May I suggest that the Mark 2 model also shows the number of stolen cycles.
Well this has made my day, I am thinking how quickly I can slip in to all conversations " Did you know Brighton has the first Cycle Counting Machines". May I suggest that the Mark 2 model also shows the number of stolen cycles. Gentleman Jim
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4:25pm Wed 30 Dec 09

yorkie44 says...

And what is the point of this?
And what is the point of this? yorkie44
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4:34pm Wed 30 Dec 09

SmileyD says...

Christ on a bike! Whatever next?
Christ on a bike! Whatever next? SmileyD
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4:44pm Wed 30 Dec 09

cheezburger says...

Charlotte Vere wrote:
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
Charlotte you dont have to write your name at the bottom of every post, we can see your username. Or do you assume the readership is dim? (but they wont be dim enough to vote for you.

As regards to the bike counting machine, why? Does it serve a purpose? In any case it wil only count bikes that ride past it, and not the people who use bikes all the time but use a different route. What a waste of tax payers money.
[quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)[/p][/quote]Charlotte you dont have to write your name at the bottom of every post, we can see your username. Or do you assume the readership is dim? (but they wont be dim enough to vote for you. As regards to the bike counting machine, why? Does it serve a purpose? In any case it wil only count bikes that ride past it, and not the people who use bikes all the time but use a different route. What a waste of tax payers money. cheezburger
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5:01pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Eddie Shoestring says...

Thanks for telling us where they are. I will go and put chewing gum over the lenses so they count sweet FA.
Thanks for telling us where they are. I will go and put chewing gum over the lenses so they count sweet FA. Eddie Shoestring
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5:26pm Wed 30 Dec 09

p a t r i c k says...

Charlotte Vere wrote:
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) ....

I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks.

Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
You are saying "no thanks" to EU/Cycling England funding?

A few cycling counting machines seems like a reasonable price to pay for further funding to me, but not to you it seems.
[quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)[/p][/quote]You are saying "no thanks" to EU/Cycling England funding? A few cycling counting machines seems like a reasonable price to pay for further funding to me, but not to you it seems. p a t r i c k
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6:25pm Wed 30 Dec 09

adampride says...

Charlotte Vere, says...
1:27pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) ....

There will be three of these counters so hardly cluttering up our streets (compared with, for instance, the four lanes of parked cars cluttering up 'Grand' Avenue)

In terms of meeting targets the Council already have many cycle counters around the city (including several on each of these routes) and so already have accurate cycling data to provide for EU or Cycling England funding.

These new visible counters are not there to attract funding but to encourage cyclists by letting them know that there are many other people cycling on the same route.

As you very seldom see hundreds of bikes together (unlike the hundreds of nearly stationary of cars jamming up the centre of Brighton this afternoon) I'm sure its encouraging to know that there are actually hundreds (or in the case of the Lewes Road, thousands) of other cyclists on the same route - but without the pollution or gridlock
Charlotte Vere, says... 1:27pm Wed 30 Dec 09 Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... There will be three of these counters so hardly cluttering up our streets (compared with, for instance, the four lanes of parked cars cluttering up 'Grand' Avenue) In terms of meeting targets the Council already have many cycle counters around the city (including several on each of these routes) and so already have accurate cycling data to provide for EU or Cycling England funding. These new visible counters are not there to attract funding but to encourage cyclists by letting them know that there are many other people cycling on the same route. As you very seldom see hundreds of bikes together (unlike the hundreds of nearly stationary of cars jamming up the centre of Brighton this afternoon) I'm sure its encouraging to know that there are actually hundreds (or in the case of the Lewes Road, thousands) of other cyclists on the same route - but without the pollution or gridlock adampride
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6:45pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Sudseax says...

Charlotte Vere wrote:
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
Charlotte, As a Cycle Demonstration Town Brighton has much to teach other parts of the country about what does and does not work in terms of investment in cycling facilities. Information from cycle counters will be part of a range of evidence that others will find invaluable in making best use of scarce funding. Sorry, but saying it’s ‘bureaucracy gone mad’ sounds like an easy sound-bite. Perhaps you would like to explain how you propose to support sustainable transport without some evidence base for what works?
[quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)[/p][/quote]Charlotte, As a Cycle Demonstration Town Brighton has much to teach other parts of the country about what does and does not work in terms of investment in cycling facilities. Information from cycle counters will be part of a range of evidence that others will find invaluable in making best use of scarce funding. Sorry, but saying it’s ‘bureaucracy gone mad’ sounds like an easy sound-bite. Perhaps you would like to explain how you propose to support sustainable transport without some evidence base for what works? Sudseax
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8:01pm Wed 30 Dec 09

stan bailey says...

cheezburger wrote:
Charlotte Vere wrote:
Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)
Charlotte you dont have to write your name at the bottom of every post, we can see your username. Or do you assume the readership is dim? (but they wont be dim enough to vote for you.

As regards to the bike counting machine, why? Does it serve a purpose? In any case it wil only count bikes that ride past it, and not the people who use bikes all the time but use a different route. What a waste of tax payers money.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]cheezburger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlotte Vere[/bold] wrote: Bureaucracy gone mad! I suppose that in order to get the EU/Cycling England funding, we have to prove we meet 'targets'. And so they clutter up our streets with cyclist counting machines (sorry, that still makes me smile in a Monty Python sort of way) .... I wonder if we can say thanks, but no thanks. Charlotte Vere (Conservative Parliamentary Candidate for Brighton Pavilion)[/p][/quote]Charlotte you dont have to write your name at the bottom of every post, we can see your username. Or do you assume the readership is dim? (but they wont be dim enough to vote for you. As regards to the bike counting machine, why? Does it serve a purpose? In any case it wil only count bikes that ride past it, and not the people who use bikes all the time but use a different route. What a waste of tax payers money.[/p][/quote]Spot on. stan bailey
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9:24pm Wed 30 Dec 09

RickH says...

Think about it wrote:
Come on Charlotte, aren't you going to answer RickH's question? It seems like a reasonable one to me. Perhaps you just want to leave your comment at "I am against bureaucracy" because, like what most politicians say, it sounds good but is ultimately meaningless. I myself am in favour or fluffy bunnies and think crime is a bad thing, vote for me!
And worth noting that the leader of that party is an ex-PR man so expect more soundbites and no substance right up to the election. In my view, like most MPs (and prospective ones) will say anything to bandwagon jump or gain a vote or two but when faced with substance or someone who understands policy, run a mile. Finally, thank you Charlotte for proving my expectations of you - shan't be getting my vote in a hurry.
[quote][p][bold]Think about it[/bold] wrote: Come on Charlotte, aren't you going to answer RickH's question? It seems like a reasonable one to me. Perhaps you just want to leave your comment at "I am against bureaucracy" because, like what most politicians say, it sounds good but is ultimately meaningless. I myself am in favour or fluffy bunnies and think crime is a bad thing, vote for me![/p][/quote]And worth noting that the leader of that party is an ex-PR man so expect more soundbites and no substance right up to the election. In my view, like most MPs (and prospective ones) will say anything to bandwagon jump or gain a vote or two but when faced with substance or someone who understands policy, run a mile. Finally, thank you Charlotte for proving my expectations of you - shan't be getting my vote in a hurry. RickH
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9:26pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Brian Hitchen CBE says...

Cycling England? What a load of nonsense. Yet another useless, self-important, quango, has discovered a new way of wasting EU funding.
And who eventually foots the EU bill? We do. As usual.
No matter how cracked the project, to secure funding, all these weirdo outfits have to do is mention sustainable transport, or climate change, and the lolly arrives in the next post.
In Brown's barmy Britain, it's a trick that never fails.
Cycling England? What a load of nonsense. Yet another useless, self-important, quango, has discovered a new way of wasting EU funding. And who eventually foots the EU bill? We do. As usual. No matter how cracked the project, to secure funding, all these weirdo outfits have to do is mention sustainable transport, or climate change, and the lolly arrives in the next post. In Brown's barmy Britain, it's a trick that never fails. Brian Hitchen CBE
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11:18pm Wed 30 Dec 09

jon s says...

Brian Hitchen CBE wrote:
Cycling England? What a load of nonsense. Yet another useless, self-important, quango, has discovered a new way of wasting EU funding. And who eventually foots the EU bill? We do. As usual. No matter how cracked the project, to secure funding, all these weirdo outfits have to do is mention sustainable transport, or climate change, and the lolly arrives in the next post. In Brown's barmy Britain, it's a trick that never fails.
You're 100% correct.Try getting funding for research into nut collection by squirrels in the 1970s,and you'll fail.Try getting funding for research into nut collection by squirrels in the 1970s in relation to climate change,there's a good chance it'll succeed.Climate change is such an industry,there are so many people making so much money from it,it's not ever going to go away,ever!Gordon Brown would not disagree with what I have just said,it's the industry he'll be moving to when he finishes up at the next election.
[quote][p][bold]Brian Hitchen CBE[/bold] wrote: Cycling England? What a load of nonsense. Yet another useless, self-important, quango, has discovered a new way of wasting EU funding. And who eventually foots the EU bill? We do. As usual. No matter how cracked the project, to secure funding, all these weirdo outfits have to do is mention sustainable transport, or climate change, and the lolly arrives in the next post. In Brown's barmy Britain, it's a trick that never fails.[/p][/quote]You're 100% correct.Try getting funding for research into nut collection by squirrels in the 1970s,and you'll fail.Try getting funding for research into nut collection by squirrels in the 1970s in relation to climate change,there's a good chance it'll succeed.Climate change is such an industry,there are so many people making so much money from it,it's not ever going to go away,ever!Gordon Brown would not disagree with what I have just said,it's the industry he'll be moving to when he finishes up at the next election. jon s
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12:17pm Thu 31 Dec 09

freddo says...

Wiggsy wrote:
Perhaps its to measure the amount of idiots who think traffic will see them in the dark whilst cycling on the road, with no rear/front lights, no reflective equipment and no crack hat.

It never fails to amaze me each morning and/or night, too see cyclists who do not have the modicum of safety equipment; the above requirements should be made law, it might mean the NHS would less stretched having to deal with their RTA injuries that could have easily avoided
Wiggsy should look at the evidence before rattling off the same old prejudiced cliches

http://tinyurl.com/y
8rbeyk

which says: A tiny proportion of accidents involving cyclists are caused by riders jumping red lights or stop signs, or failing to wear high-visibility clothing and use lights, a government-commissio
ned study has discovered.

Cyclists who jump red lights may be annoying to motorists stuck in congestion but cars that jump red lights (and they do!) can kill!

In 2008 there were 288 admissions to hospitals for pedestrians from crashes with bikes, compared to 7,260 from collisions with cars. Furthermore cycle/pedestrian injuries were less severe than those involving cars. By contrast police reports indicate that there were 51 serious injuries reported from cycle/pedestrian crashes and 4,570 serious injuries from car/pedestrian crashes.

Last year cars also were involved in the deaths of 332 pedestrians, and serious/slight injuries to 22,000 more. Cyclists, on the other hand, were involved in the deaths of 1 pedestrian and injuries to 237.

Plus - bikes are better for the environment, cheap to run and keep you fit!! What's not to like?
[quote][p][bold]Wiggsy[/bold] wrote: Perhaps its to measure the amount of idiots who think traffic will see them in the dark whilst cycling on the road, with no rear/front lights, no reflective equipment and no crack hat. It never fails to amaze me each morning and/or night, too see cyclists who do not have the modicum of safety equipment; the above requirements should be made law, it might mean the NHS would less stretched having to deal with their RTA injuries that could have easily avoided[/p][/quote]Wiggsy should look at the evidence before rattling off the same old prejudiced cliches http://tinyurl.com/y 8rbeyk which says: A tiny proportion of accidents involving cyclists are caused by riders jumping red lights or stop signs, or failing to wear high-visibility clothing and use lights, a government-commissio ned study has discovered. Cyclists who jump red lights may be annoying to motorists stuck in congestion but cars that jump red lights (and they do!) can kill! In 2008 there were 288 admissions to hospitals for pedestrians from crashes with bikes, compared to 7,260 from collisions with cars. Furthermore cycle/pedestrian injuries were less severe than those involving cars. By contrast police reports indicate that there were 51 serious injuries reported from cycle/pedestrian crashes and 4,570 serious injuries from car/pedestrian crashes. Last year cars also were involved in the deaths of 332 pedestrians, and serious/slight injuries to 22,000 more. Cyclists, on the other hand, were involved in the deaths of 1 pedestrian and injuries to 237. Plus - bikes are better for the environment, cheap to run and keep you fit!! What's not to like? freddo
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12:20pm Thu 31 Dec 09

freddo says...

In case the tiny url doesn't work here is the original link:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/lifeandstyle/2
009/dec/15/cycling-b
ike-accidents-study
In case the tiny url doesn't work here is the original link: http://www.guardian. co.uk/lifeandstyle/2 009/dec/15/cycling-b ike-accidents-study freddo
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11:24am Sat 2 Jan 10

Charlotte Vere says...

My apologies for the delay in responding to your comments – I have been finishing up the family holiday.
@RickH and Think about it: Yes we need tighter control over public spending and indeed greater efficiency in the use of public money. But in the new age of reason we have to pull ourselves back from creating an even bigger government machine locally, nationally and in Europe, and this is what I mean by bureaucracy. Are we going to have a team in place to maintain and service these machines? Could we just have one person in each spot four times a year to count cyclists? At a time when we have to be careful with money, we have to be reasonable.
@cheezburger: You are right that I don’t need to add my name at the end – it just feels polite and I like to keep a positive tone! What I will do is put my name and ‘title’ in my first post and leave it out of subsequent posts – I think that should keep everyone happy.
@patrick: No, of course I am not against the funding – just the machines.
@adampride: Is that right? The machines are there to let other people know how many other people are cycling the same route? Now I am truly astounded!
My apologies for the delay in responding to your comments – I have been finishing up the family holiday. @RickH and Think about it: Yes we need tighter control over public spending and indeed greater efficiency in the use of public money. But in the new age of reason we have to pull ourselves back from creating an even bigger government machine locally, nationally and in Europe, and this is what I mean by bureaucracy. Are we going to have a team in place to maintain and service these machines? Could we just have one person in each spot four times a year to count cyclists? At a time when we have to be careful with money, we have to be reasonable. @cheezburger: You are right that I don’t need to add my name at the end – it just feels polite and I like to keep a positive tone! What I will do is put my name and ‘title’ in my first post and leave it out of subsequent posts – I think that should keep everyone happy. @patrick: No, of course I am not against the funding – just the machines. @adampride: Is that right? The machines are there to let other people know how many other people are cycling the same route? Now I am truly astounded! Charlotte Vere
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11:35am Sat 2 Jan 10

jon s says...

Anyone know how they actually work?How can they differentiate between the same cyclist and a different cyclist?How's it gonna' count people on Tandems?Won't the generated figures be weather dependant as well?Councils just can't think of enough ways to waste tax payers money,and this is another one.
Anyone know how they actually work?How can they differentiate between the same cyclist and a different cyclist?How's it gonna' count people on Tandems?Won't the generated figures be weather dependant as well?Councils just can't think of enough ways to waste tax payers money,and this is another one. jon s
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3:14pm Sun 3 Jan 10

caeos says...

can we see a picture of this thing?
can we see a picture of this thing? caeos
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