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5:50pm Tuesday 9th March 2010 in
A homeowner says partying students are forcing her from her home.
Tessa Meijer blames all night parties, noisy, drunken behaviour and constant litter for driving her out of her home, which is sandwiched between two student-let houses in the Hanover area of Brighton.
And she says she has even hurt herself trying to dodge the rubbish bins, recycling boxes and bicycles left on the pavements.
Ms Meijer called for the universities to limit the amount of student housing in residential streets and to force students to behave.
A council spokeswoman said it worked with university staff, landlords and estate agents to tackle problems.
A spokeswoman for the University of Brighton said the complaint would be investigated and that students moving into private sector education were warned to behave when they applied for courses.
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TheInsider
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8:24pm Tue 9 Mar 10
bug eye
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9:25pm Tue 9 Mar 10
bug eye
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9:29pm Tue 9 Mar 10
PeteBrighton
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9:37pm Tue 9 Mar 10
TheInsider
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10:02pm Tue 9 Mar 10
lequack80
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10:29pm Tue 9 Mar 10
pun master
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10:47pm Tue 9 Mar 10
codpiece
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11:24pm Tue 9 Mar 10
kkj
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12:12am Wed 10 Mar 10
lequack80 wrote:Um, Brighton and Hanover have been there a lot longer than the students. Maybe Ms Meijer has been there longer than the students (thats what I infer from the report). Maybe Ms Meijer likes the area and the pubs but not the neighbours she currently has. Do you really think that anyone would say to themselves 'its a noisy neighbourhood full of pubs and students, lets move in, hope for the best and complain about it later if it all goes pear shaped'? Do you, really?
Um, it's Hanover. It's Brighton. It's a city of mainly young people. It's an area with lots of decent pubs. Sorry, but if you want a quiet existence, don't choose to live there.
stan bailey
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7:55am Wed 10 Mar 10
bug eye wrote:How much council tax do you and your students pay?
Tessa there is no student let register, a landlord can let to whoever they like, and it is the council and police to implement the powers they have to force any tenants to behave. the landlord enters into the contract and it is very hard to get rid of tenants during their tenancy period as you would probably expect. your vindictiveness against landlords who are in the main honest people providing an important service and probably not actually earning much in return makes me feel you are not a nice person. landlords are heavily regulated at great expense too, it is the council and the police and hopefully the university that hold all the powers, and you will be prosecuted under those powers if you behave anti socially against any landlord. landlords cannot go around and empty the bins for them or put them to bed at 10.30. I agree the students should face expulsion from their course if they are constantly being a nuisance. it is not just students that can be a nuisance, and in fact most of them in my experience are very nice and the most reliable, also keep community shops etc. in business. tessa it sounds like you are becoming the nuisance neighbour in your street, denying people a choice of where to live. the council are also landlords and as they will confirm they many anti social families who are very difficult to evict. anyone who is not a landlord should research this with the national landlords association and they will discover the huge amount of legislation they comply with and at great cost, and the contribution to society providing cheap housing that no one else will supply, and paying taxes into the system. tessa you are sad.
Made In Sussex
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8:38am Wed 10 Mar 10
tim e
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8:55am Wed 10 Mar 10
Bennn
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10:00am Wed 10 Mar 10
TheInsider wrote:Stop showing off Insider. We don't care if you have a good job or a £290,000 house. As lequack80 says, you and I chose to live in a young, vibrant and noisy city so we just have to accept the good and bad sides of it. I live next to seveal student houses too and yes they are noisy but these students are also vital to Brighton's economy. We've all been young and had parties haven't we? I do agree though that many need to have a little more respect for their neighbours but let's not be too harsh and remember that a lot of jobs in this city rely on the students.
Tessa the powers are with neighbours and councils will act so ignore Bug Eye. The day of students keeping residents awake and being left in situ have gone. The council advise that from day one of noise, inform them and from this day the investigation starts. The council will and do remove students. Look through The Argus archive and you will find many court cases where students are fined and evicted. Also read the council's 58-page report into problem with student rentals in the city and recommendations which can be found on the council's website under completed scrutiny reports. This should give you some solace that the issue is being taken very seriously. Also we are heading for an election, so get thes prospective parlaimentary candidates to your home and ask for help. People change policy. Also, the council advises, that from day one of noise, call the council. Do NOT leave it or negotiate. And there is a recommended list of student properties which the colleges keep and the council can request removal, so Bug Eye is incorrect. Landlords can rent without being on this list but being on a list makes it easier to rent. And Bug Eye, I am not at all sad, I am ensuring that me and my wife, who is a nurse, can go to work in ITU having a good night's sleep. I hope you or your family never need a team or nurses trying to save your life when they have had two hours sleep due to houses full of student children being allowed to run riot next to my £290,000 home which I work **** hard to pay for. You obviously don't care about community or decent working people which is perhaps why some areas of this town have fallen into total disrepair and neglect. My neighbours and I will not let people like you ruin our town.
Whitedot
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10:15am Wed 10 Mar 10
Made In Sussex
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10:42am Wed 10 Mar 10
Fight Back
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11:26am Wed 10 Mar 10
lequack80
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1:01pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Made In Sussex
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1:05pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Granny
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1:26pm Wed 10 Mar 10
southwick girl
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1:33pm Wed 10 Mar 10
toldsloth
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1:44pm Wed 10 Mar 10
dentalplan
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2:31pm Wed 10 Mar 10
RottingdeanRant
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2:41pm Wed 10 Mar 10
JayJayR
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3:40pm Wed 10 Mar 10
TheInsider
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3:59pm Wed 10 Mar 10
JCJC student
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6:46pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Big Nasty
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7:07pm Wed 10 Mar 10
JayJayR wrote:I would give Nicholas Hoogstraten a call!, he seems to know how to deal with this type of problem very efficiently!.
I can completely relate to this. We are four students living in Hanover and we love it, we don't like loud music (unless its inside a night club) and we hate the rubbish and bikes on the street. We've been involved in Hanover day and we when we planned a party for Halloween we spoke to the neighbours first and even had some early local trick or treaters come in to help us decorate. We've never had a problem with noisy neighbours until this year.
The tenants on one side of us are very noisy and play their music very loud on and off at all times of the day. They have it so loud that they can't hear us banging on their door and we can't get quiet / sleep on any of our 3 floors. We've spoken to them numerous times and called the council but when the council sent someone round the music wasn't on and so they said they couldn't act. Having loved the house, the area and our lovely landlords for the 3 years I've been there, I now can wait to move out, get some decent sleep (without earplugs!) and know that I can invite people over for tea and be able to hear what they are saying.
Any advice on what I can do / get the council to do about it?
stan bailey
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9:49pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Bennn wrote:Rather ageist, young. Well i have lived here all my life and I do not want to be disturbed by some moron that hasn't contributed anything to society
TheInsider wrote:Stop showing off Insider. We don't care if you have a good job or a £290,000 house. As lequack80 says, you and I chose to live in a young, vibrant and noisy city so we just have to accept the good and bad sides of it. I live next to seveal student houses too and yes they are noisy but these students are also vital to Brighton's economy. We've all been young and had parties haven't we? I do agree though that many need to have a little more respect for their neighbours but let's not be too harsh and remember that a lot of jobs in this city rely on the students.
Tessa the powers are with neighbours and councils will act so ignore Bug Eye. The day of students keeping residents awake and being left in situ have gone. The council advise that from day one of noise, inform them and from this day the investigation starts. The council will and do remove students. Look through The Argus archive and you will find many court cases where students are fined and evicted. Also read the council's 58-page report into problem with student rentals in the city and recommendations which can be found on the council's website under completed scrutiny reports. This should give you some solace that the issue is being taken very seriously. Also we are heading for an election, so get thes prospective parlaimentary candidates to your home and ask for help. People change policy. Also, the council advises, that from day one of noise, call the council. Do NOT leave it or negotiate. And there is a recommended list of student properties which the colleges keep and the council can request removal, so Bug Eye is incorrect. Landlords can rent without being on this list but being on a list makes it easier to rent. And Bug Eye, I am not at all sad, I am ensuring that me and my wife, who is a nurse, can go to work in ITU having a good night's sleep. I hope you or your family never need a team or nurses trying to save your life when they have had two hours sleep due to houses full of student children being allowed to run riot next to my £290,000 home which I work **** hard to pay for. You obviously don't care about community or decent working people which is perhaps why some areas of this town have fallen into total disrepair and neglect. My neighbours and I will not let people like you ruin our town.
casper49
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12:19am Thu 11 Mar 10
bbbignuts
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11:37am Fri 12 Mar 10
Old Ladys Gin
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10:32am Sat 13 Mar 10
Ndee
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4:30pm Sat 13 Mar 10
Ndee
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4:33pm Sat 13 Mar 10
KarenT
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6:44pm Sat 13 Mar 10
Old Ladys Gin
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7:11pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ndee wrote:Welcome to Brighton; what you found when you arrived is about par for the course.
As a tenant of private rental accommodation in Brighton I have been nothing short of horrified since I moved here regarding the poor quality of private rental property. I've seen some right dives not suitable for animal, never mind human habitation - rotten windows, mouldy bathrooms, inadequate heating and worse of all houses turned into flats with absolutely no action taken to soundproof properties. A lot of these problems would be sorted if there was legislation to ensure a level of soundproofing, as with new build flats in private accomodation - expecially conversions. But there is no such legislation.
Myself and my friends who are all private tenants have all been forced to move, at least once, because of neighbours. Mainly in converted houses. Even noise which isn't actually antisocial can appear antisocial because of this soundproofing issue such as TVs, walking around, doors shutting, playing music and even talking!
It's about time Landlords were made to keep their properties at a certain level of habitability and by law have to ensure properties were sufficiently sound proofed.
I think some landlords live in cloud cuckoo land thinking that certain living conditions are acceptable but moreover, I think they don't actually give a **** as long as they have a nice home to retire in of an evening and a big fat bank balance.
I work a 40 hour week and expect to be able to come home of an evening and relax - not listen to my neighbour having **** in the flat below. I'm afraid I am going to have to move AGAIN.
KarenT
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11:34pm Mon 15 Mar 10
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davyboy says...
6:09pm Tue 9 Mar 10