Hove death crash driver did not have licence (From The Argus)

He should now forfeit his right to appeal for asylum in the UK and be deported as he failed to observe the laws of the country he is trying to remain in and he took the life of another.
No doubt his application for asylum is that his life is under threat in his homeland.

TheInsider wrote:
He should now forfeit his right to appeal for asylum in the UK and be deported as he failed to observe the laws of the country he is trying to remain in and he took the life of another.
No doubt his application for asylum is that his life is under threat in his homeland.

quite right. doesn't help the poor family who lost a loving husband and father, but would make others feel better. uninsured/unlicenced drivers are a real nuisance nowadays, and need removing from the road. it is quite right that police have the power to remove/crush uninsured vehicles, and having seen the police pound at heathrow, where they have a blitz everyday, there are some very new cars that are uninsured. there are also many taxi's and private hire vehicles in there too, so be aware that even these operators cut corners.

davyboy wrote:

TheInsider wrote: He should now forfeit his right to appeal for asylum in the UK and be deported as he failed to observe the laws of the country he is trying to remain in and he took the life of another. No doubt his application for asylum is that his life is under threat in his homeland.

quite right. doesn't help the poor family who lost a loving husband and father, but would make others feel better. uninsured/unlicenced drivers are a real nuisance nowadays, and need removing from the road. it is quite right that police have the power to remove/crush uninsured vehicles, and having seen the police pound at heathrow, where they have a blitz everyday, there are some very new cars that are uninsured. there are also many taxi's and private hire vehicles in there too, so be aware that even these operators cut corners.

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kayotic wrote:

davyboy wrote:

TheInsider wrote: He should now forfeit his right to appeal for asylum in the UK and be deported as he failed to observe the laws of the country he is trying to remain in and he took the life of another. No doubt his application for asylum is that his life is under threat in his homeland.

quite right. doesn't help the poor family who lost a loving husband and father, but would make others feel better. uninsured/unlicenced drivers are a real nuisance nowadays, and need removing from the road. it is quite right that police have the power to remove/crush uninsured vehicles, and having seen the police pound at heathrow, where they have a blitz everyday, there are some very new cars that are uninsured. there are also many taxi's and private hire vehicles in there too, so be aware that even these operators cut corners.

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How pathetically sad that, in relation to the context of the report, your only comment relates to a punctuation error.

Drewjh wrote:

kayotic wrote:

davyboy wrote:

TheInsider wrote: He should now forfeit his right to appeal for asylum in the UK and be deported as he failed to observe the laws of the country he is trying to remain in and he took the life of another. No doubt his application for asylum is that his life is under threat in his homeland.

quite right. doesn't help the poor family who lost a loving husband and father, but would make others feel better. uninsured/unlicenced drivers are a real nuisance nowadays, and need removing from the road. it is quite right that police have the power to remove/crush uninsured vehicles, and having seen the police pound at heathrow, where they have a blitz everyday, there are some very new cars that are uninsured. there are also many taxi's and private hire vehicles in there too, so be aware that even these operators cut corners.

No apostrophe in taxis

How pathetically sad that, in relation to the context of the report, your only comment relates to a punctuation error.

comma after sad, not that.

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its a terrible shame that this hap pend & i feel for his family & friends ,however did anyone from the many relative government agencies inform Aziz that a licence & insurance is required in the uk,many of my asylum seeker work colleagues are not even aware of income tax & NI stamps. Its more of a common problem then many realise

absolute joke that he was not deported,how they can appeal the decision and stay here for years to come is laughable.put them all insecure accomedation for a maximum of two weeks to check there story,if it doesn,t add up first flight home.there are to many illegal imigrants in this country comiting crimes.

bosshog wrote:
absolute joke that he was not deported,how they can appeal the decision and stay here for years to come is laughable.put them all insecure accomedation for a maximum of two weeks to check there story,if it doesn,t add up first flight home.there are to many illegal imigrants in this country comiting crimes.

We really have enough scum of our own, without giving him leave to stay

What I feel about Mr Aziz has already been mentioned above but I am curious; how did he get work if he's an illegal imigrant? And what are the Real Patisserie doing lending him a work van without checking for valid insurance and licence? Seems like a masice failure all round and a poor man had to die as a result. UKBA should be ashamed of themselves.

BandWagonDiva wrote:
What I feel about Mr Aziz has already been mentioned above but I am curious; how did he get work if he's an illegal imigrant? And what are the Real Patisserie doing lending him a work van without checking for valid insurance and licence? Seems like a masice failure all round and a poor man had to die as a result. UKBA should be ashamed of themselves.

no the victim had finished a shift at Real Patisseria ,Azia lent the truck of his mates in the mids ,

Why has this man been granted bail till sentencing. He has refused to co-operate with the autorities until the last moment and then insisted on his innocence until the trial started and only then (after cost to the tax payer) changed his plea to guilty. He is clearly an unsavoury character and I would add to that he is more than likely a flight risk as well. What's the betting that come the time for sentencing that he's nowhere to be found down here and off to another part of the country. The fact that he has broken the law of this land while wanting to be granted leave to stay here show's how much respect he has for the UK. I don't doubt that he doesn't want to go back to Iraq, but if he wants to stay here, he should have at least shown some interest in finding out the laws of the land.

Neil466, I presume your comment re. this gentleman is meant tongue in cheek. Nobody from 'relative' (relevant?) agencies informed him that a licence and insurance are required to drive in this country?

Perhaps he should also be advised that you have to pay for goods in shops, not spit in peoples faces, go to the toilet in private, be careful when using sharp implements, not set fire to beggars.....and perhaps not kill highly visible, innocent scooter drivers.

Ignorance, should that be your excuse for his heinous action, is no defence in the eyes of the law. Or perhaps he didn't know that, either.

...and as for your colleagues being unaware of income tax and NI...do me a favour. I bet they know enough about the British system to get any handouts going.

Probably the most dangerous junction in Brighton too.

Pretty much every time I drive down there someone jumps the red lights. There's a camera, but it points down the Old Shoreham Road. It's the other direction that's the problem - people jumping across the Drive.

The irony is that the "Sussex Safe Camera Partnership" (aka "Talivan") often have a speed van parked by Hove Rugby Ground, but instead of concentrating on the serious safety problems at the junction, they instead always point the other way up the Drive, trying to catch people speeding as they come over the top of the crest near the bottom of Hove Park Road - i.e. sneaky revenue raising from easy targets.

So.. he lied about his identity, he lied about ownership of the van, he refused to answer questions when being interviewed and refused to comment until the outcome of the police investigation into the crash...

Sounds to me like someone who is pretty clued up and is used to operating outside of the law.

So the police describe this outcome as a "satisfactory conclusion."
For Mr. Azziz, perhaps, who is now out on bail and and who will hopefully be monitored in the run-up to sentencing.

Jo PP wrote:
So.. he lied about his identity, he lied about ownership of the van, he refused to answer questions when being interviewed and refused to comment until the outcome of the police investigation into the crash...

Sounds to me like someone who is pretty clued up and is used to operating outside of the law.

and now they give him bail. what a joke. he will disappear, and that will be that.