'Jackboot killer' to be released from prison (From The Argus)

3/1 odds that he'll do something that will prove that he should never have been released in the first 6 months. Any takers?

Three life sentances for murdering three human beings. That should really be 300 years ie NEVER TO BE RELEASED.

Instead what we have is a judical system that allows scum like him to walk free again within his lifetime. Not only should he be executed but we should also hang the judges and their associates who put the ordinary lives of decent people at risk daily because they keep releasing these murderers, peadophiles and rapists. They think they know better but they are not fit for office.

@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions.

What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

Correction. 1 murder should = 100 years. My error.

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

scthetruth wrote:
Three life sentances for murdering three human beings. That should really be 300 years ie NEVER TO BE RELEASED.

Instead what we have is a judical system that allows scum like him to walk free again within his lifetime. Not only should he be executed but we should also hang the judges and their associates who put the ordinary lives of decent people at risk daily because they keep releasing these murderers, peadophiles and rapists. They think they know better but they are not fit for office.

To be exact, he only murdered one policeman. Not from want of trying though. The other two survived.

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

What has it got to do with newspapers? Well you sound like a typical ignorant, daily mail reader that's what it's got to do with it.

And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded, that's because I believe in 'Justice' not 'Revenge' there is a difference.

if he is to be released, then i sincerely hope that the probation service keep good tabs on him, and not lose him! weekly reporting is surely a must, and ANY missed appointments should immediaqtely reported to the police. whilst it may be that he is rehabilitated, i would not particularly want him living near me without prior warning.

Will the police be told where he is? I expect this will mean even fewer police on the streets.

So, er, life equals ~12 years then?
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I thought we were doing better than that.
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But hey, at least he's been rehabilitated, right?

Difficulty with math eh?

35 years for killing one person but after being given 3 *concurrent* (that means 'to be served at the same time yeah?) life sentences.

Life sentences have never, ever meant *actual* life, just more than 25 years.

Difficulty with math eh?

35 years for killing one person but after being given 3 *concurrent* (that means 'to be served at the same time yeah?) life sentences.

Life sentences have never, ever meant *actual* life, just more than 25 years.

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions.

What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

At least if this excuse for a human being was executed he would never be able to harm anyone else!, no it wouldn't bring back the dead but as I said before, as sure as eggs are eggs he wouldn't kill anyone else!!!!!.

he should have been executed years back. when will this country wake up and realise we need the death penalty.

Tetsugaku-San wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

What has it got to do with newspapers? Well you sound like a typical ignorant, daily mail reader that's what it's got to do with it.

And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded, that's because I believe in 'Justice' not 'Revenge' there is a difference.

I do not read newspapers. I look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.

But as on the subject you sound like a PIG arrogant Guardian, BBC, Labour Party/LD lackey. You know the type of socialist garbage that Great Britain has had to put up with over the last 13 years. Part of the miserable rabble that have tried to drag the country through horse manure an infinite number of ways.

Look at his quote people!........

"And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded"

Would you indeed. No one here will believe that. Not in a month of Sundays!

UglyAmerican wrote:
So, er, life equals ~12 years then?
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I thought we were doing better than that.
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But hey, at least he's been rehabilitated, right?

What would happen to him if he committed the crime in the USA?

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

What has it got to do with newspapers? Well you sound like a typical ignorant, daily mail reader that's what it's got to do with it.

And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded, that's because I believe in 'Justice' not 'Revenge' there is a difference.

I do not read newspapers. I look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.

But as on the subject you sound like a PIG arrogant Guardian, BBC, Labour Party/LD lackey. You know the type of socialist garbage that Great Britain has had to put up with over the last 13 years. Part of the miserable rabble that have tried to drag the country through horse manure an infinite number of ways.

Look at his quote people!........

"And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded"

Would you indeed. No one here will believe that. Not in a month of Sundays!

Absolutely brilliant post.
I was just about to make a post myself about this subject before I saw yours, but what the heck I'm going to do it anyway.

Tetsugaku-San. One question i would like to ask you is?
1. Would you be happy, like you said if he was released early like many recent governmental early release cases?
The reason i ask this question is you said "sentence he was awarded". Just wanted to know as many cases lately people haven't faced the full sentence awarded.
Tetsugaku-San, additonally why does any newspaper have to do with your argument. If people dont agree with you doesn't mean they read a specific newspaper. This is the irony of you calling Daily Mail ignorant. The saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones comes to mind. I see it all the time as a student, all the left wing students always having pops at newspapers other than the Guardian and The Independent. Its strange this argument to me as they're as bias as any other newspaper out there. You probably dont remember the Guardian for being done for being to pro-Palestine biased. Therefore, I just find it amazing how a lot of people turn their nose up at other peoples papers, when they should really look at their own, especially the left proclaiming that you are ignorant for reading a paper.

stan bailey wrote:

UglyAmerican wrote:
So, er, life equals ~12 years then?
>
I thought we were doing better than that.
.
But hey, at least he's been rehabilitated, right?

What would happen to him if he committed the crime in the USA?

Yeah you're right, they lock people up for life and just look how little crime they have!

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

What has it got to do with newspapers? Well you sound like a typical ignorant, daily mail reader that's what it's got to do with it.

And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded, that's because I believe in 'Justice' not 'Revenge' there is a difference.

I do not read newspapers. I look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.

But as on the subject you sound like a PIG arrogant Guardian, BBC, Labour Party/LD lackey. You know the type of socialist garbage that Great Britain has had to put up with over the last 13 years. Part of the miserable rabble that have tried to drag the country through horse manure an infinite number of ways.

Look at his quote people!........

"And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded"

Would you indeed. No one here will believe that. Not in a month of Sundays!

Well I'm really not too fussed what you believe, nor does anyone else care about your impotent stutterings on the internets. However, yes I am Liberal, and I am a proud wooly liberal, bite me :)

I'm also happy to actually debate somethign with you, that is if you have any actual facts, or do you just have a lump of angry opinions formed through nothing other than echos of fox news and the Daily Bile (Mail) ?

What are you actually saying? that everyone who commits a crime should be locked up forever? I mean it would stop them I suppose (although hey could commit crimes inside), but it wouldn't stop anyone else and it's obvious that it isn't a deterent.

Personally I'd rather find out why someone commits a crime in the first place and rehabilitate them than lock them up and throw away the key, doesn't seem very constructive to me.

But hey, I even feel sorry for that Venebles kid who killed James Bulger. Anyone who actually looked into the way his parents brought him up probably would.... :)

brighton123 wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Tetsugaku-San wrote:
@scthetruth this is the Argus, not the Daily Mail - do calm down with the knee jerk reactions. What good would executing him do exactly? Would it bring the dead back to life? no. Would it stop other people committing crimes? Ah not that either so..... why exactly?

What an ignorant statement to make about newspapers! What has any newspaper got to do with this apart from The Argus who are reporting it?

This is certainly no knee jerk reaction. What if a family member of yours was murdered or raped? Would you be happy knowing they would be free again some day?

Justice for the victim/s in Great Britain 2010 means very little and those who defend it are out of synch with the majority of Britons I'm sure of that.

What has it got to do with newspapers? Well you sound like a typical ignorant, daily mail reader that's what it's got to do with it.

And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded, that's because I believe in 'Justice' not 'Revenge' there is a difference.

I do not read newspapers. I look at the facts and draw my own conclusions.

But as on the subject you sound like a PIG arrogant Guardian, BBC, Labour Party/LD lackey. You know the type of socialist garbage that Great Britain has had to put up with over the last 13 years. Part of the miserable rabble that have tried to drag the country through horse manure an infinite number of ways.

Look at his quote people!........

"And yes - I *would* be happy if someone who murdered or raped a family member of mine was released from jail after doing the sentence he was awarded"

Would you indeed. No one here will believe that. Not in a month of Sundays!

Absolutely brilliant post.
I was just about to make a post myself about this subject before I saw yours, but what the heck I'm going to do it anyway.

Tetsugaku-San. One question i would like to ask you is?
1. Would you be happy, like you said if he was released early like many recent governmental early release cases?
The reason i ask this question is you said "sentence he was awarded". Just wanted to know as many cases lately people haven't faced the full sentence awarded.
Tetsugaku-San, additonally why does any newspaper have to do with your argument. If people dont agree with you doesn't mean they read a specific newspaper. This is the irony of you calling Daily Mail ignorant. The saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones comes to mind. I see it all the time as a student, all the left wing students always having pops at newspapers other than the Guardian and The Independent. Its strange this argument to me as they're as bias as any other newspaper out there. You probably dont remember the Guardian for being done for being to pro-Palestine biased. Therefore, I just find it amazing how a lot of people turn their nose up at other peoples papers, when they should really look at their own, especially the left proclaiming that you are ignorant for reading a paper.

Brilliant? Why is the post so brilliant exactly? Because it has any verifiable facts in it or because it falls within "things that brighton123 likes"?

I am not, for the record saying that all (or indeed any) sentences are enough, too long or fit the crime, but if you are going to live in our society you have to accept that someone else will make these decisions and locking someone up for ever and not thinking about WHY they committed the crime and PREVENTING those causes in the future is FOOLISH.

See?

Oh and I'm a proper Anti Zionist Liberal yes, but that has more to do with the jackboot of America kicking people off their own land and causing 90% of the middle east terrorism problems in the past 60 years than anything else.

I love the Guardian. But I also read Fox news, daily Mail, independent, telegraph, and bloody hell, the argus. I find that getting my news from a wide variety of sources allows me to make a better decision than I could if I just read one.
It seems scthetruth doesn't read newspapers and goes out there to experience things 100% for himself, which I suppose is admirable but probably means he only has experience of a very limited range of things - due to him being just one person.