Brighton council worker mistakes wall-art for graffiti (From The Argus)

I think this is hilarious. Good for the council workers - their appreciation of true art is obviously pretty spot on. Incidentally though why don't they paint over the grafitti on the side of the old furniture shop at the level, under the snooker club on top of Somerfield? That eyesore has been there for ages.

We are amused.

PeteBrighton wrote:
I think this is hilarious. Good for the council workers - their appreciation of true art is obviously pretty spot on. Incidentally though why don't they paint over the grafitti on the side of the old furniture shop at the level, under the snooker club on top of Somerfield? That eyesore has been there for ages.

I was taking photos of those murals today and so were several other people. Most of them are brilliant and really lighten up that run-down shop that has been closed and boarded up for ages. Tagging is rubbish, graffiti is art. Just look at Kensington Street now. Thousands of tourists flock there every year to take photos of the graffiti on the walls and the street looks fantastic.

This really is quite a funny story.
I don't know why the council workers were so quick off the mark to paint over this, when there are tags and really bad graffiti left for weeks in other locations.

Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

What an absolute hoot! Pity they cannot be so quick at painting over all the other graffiti in the town. The city may not look quite so run down then.

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

ART makes an area look like a "gutter"?

You really are a serious piece of work aren't you? Brighton's very own internet stormtrooper.

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

Well your post just defecated all over the Argus website.

Taste is a matter of opinion, and as Brighton is full of artists with taste, decency and far classier than Daily Mail readers like yourself, I suggest you move to another town.

You won't be missed.

Whitedot wrote:

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

Well your post just defecated all over the Argus website.

Taste is a matter of opinion, and as Brighton is full of artists with taste, decency and far classier than Daily Mail readers like yourself, I suggest you move to another town.

You won't be missed.

Until outside rubbish such as yourself moved in and decided to try and paint every wall in B&H we had a decent looking place. We don't need any of your so called rainbow art tripe spread throughout every backwater street. We Brightonians already have our Regency, Edwardian and Art Deco architecture and, above all our history which we are proud of.

The majority of people here want to see the centre of town a clean and tidy place, with well kept lawns and gardens just like they were 30 years ago. Very little crime and people had respect for the war monuments too.

Crawl back into your drug infested hole from whence you came and take your empty spray cans with you.

scthetruth wrote:

Whitedot wrote:

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

Well your post just defecated all over the Argus website.

Taste is a matter of opinion, and as Brighton is full of artists with taste, decency and far classier than Daily Mail readers like yourself, I suggest you move to another town.

You won't be missed.

Until outside rubbish such as yourself moved in and decided to try and paint every wall in B&H we had a decent looking place. We don't need any of your so called rainbow art tripe spread throughout every backwater street. We Brightonians already have our Regency, Edwardian and Art Deco architecture and, above all our history which we are proud of.

The majority of people here want to see the centre of town a clean and tidy place, with well kept lawns and gardens just like they were 30 years ago. Very little crime and people had respect for the war monuments too.

Crawl back into your drug infested hole from whence you came and take your empty spray cans with you.

Yeah right mate twenty years ago Brighton was a dump and everyone knows that. It was called "skid row on sea" and loads of streets were run-down. Thanks to the all the trendy people, artists, students and young professionals who moved here it has become one of the most dynamic cities in the UK and is set to become a super city. Miserable old people such as yourself did nothing to help, all you do is complain. Crime rates are actually lower in Brighton than they were ten years ago and people still have respact for war monuments what the hell are you going on about? There is a nice place just down the road from Brighton where you will find Regency and Edwardian architecture too. It's called Eastbourne and I'm sure you're love it there!

scthetruth wrote:

Whitedot wrote:

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

Well your post just defecated all over the Argus website.

Taste is a matter of opinion, and as Brighton is full of artists with taste, decency and far classier than Daily Mail readers like yourself, I suggest you move to another town.

You won't be missed.

Until outside rubbish such as yourself moved in and decided to try and paint every wall in B&H we had a decent looking place. We don't need any of your so called rainbow art tripe spread throughout every backwater street. We Brightonians already have our Regency, Edwardian and Art Deco architecture and, above all our history which we are proud of.

The majority of people here want to see the centre of town a clean and tidy place, with well kept lawns and gardens just like they were 30 years ago. Very little crime and people had respect for the war monuments too.

Crawl back into your drug infested hole from whence you came and take your empty spray cans with you.

Dearie me.. I'm not a graffitti artist and never have been.

And I've lived here for 36 years since I was 2 years old.

Like I said, you're no longer welcome here (being outnumbered and all).

Now off you pop, ta ra!

i can't believe what i am reading, what is this guy on, you are the type of person who stopped the frank geary building, and will stop any other exciting and forward thinking ideas in this city. when the regency buildings were put up there was an outcry, had they been stopped you wouldn't have had your precious architecture. i am in my late 40's my husband in his 50's, we don't graffiti art on walls etc because we are not talented enough but the pleasure it gives to people is immense, the tourists love it and it makes people smile. you should try it one day, or yes move to god's waiting room (eastbourne) you should be proud of the creative talent that comes out of this city i think you'll find the type of person who disrespects war memorials are not the type of intelligent, creative, forward thinking people who are making brighton better, and the drug reference was so very very cheap. you have just reminded us why you should never read the daily mail, and to fight getting old and becoming senile like you. you really are a nasty piece of work.

I am shocked by the ageist comments on this site. I hope Jo Wordworth deals with them. They are no more acceptable than racism or Homophobia is

no surprise wrote:
i can't believe what i am reading, what is this guy on, you are the type of person who stopped the frank geary building, and will stop any other exciting and forward thinking ideas in this city. when the regency buildings were put up there was an outcry, had they been stopped you wouldn't have had your precious architecture. i am in my late 40's my husband in his 50's, we don't graffiti art on walls etc because we are not talented enough but the pleasure it gives to people is immense, the tourists love it and it makes people smile. you should try it one day, or yes move to god's waiting room (eastbourne) you should be proud of the creative talent that comes out of this city i think you'll find the type of person who disrespects war memorials are not the type of intelligent, creative, forward thinking people who are making brighton better, and the drug reference was so very very cheap. you have just reminded us why you should never read the daily mail, and to fight getting old and becoming senile like you. you really are a nasty piece of work.

Precisely. I can't stand tagging, it's nothing short of vandalism and ruins our beautiful town. Graffiti art however can be stunning and makes me proud when I see it done well, that I live in such a vibrant place that commissions pieces to brighten up dull forgotten walls or shop exteriors like the barbers down Trafalgar St.

Please will Bennn et al who approve of grafitti post their addresses so that I can go to their homes and turn them into grafitti murals.

Oh dear! Well, it's done now... Hopefully that sort of mistake won't happen again!

Some of the comments here really make me laugh... talk about living in the past! Brighton is such a diverse town, that's what makes it so great! I love the fact that there are great buildings and amazing graffiti and all the other interesting things that go on.... it's no 30 years ago, we need to move forward and not back!

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

How about we just paint it all beige and call it Eastbourne or Hastings then. Some people can't stand something a little bit different and have to refer to "it didn't happen 20 years ago", well I moved to Brighton just over 20 years ago to find run down buildings being pulled down and the town (as it was then) on the upturn. If you want to live in the Brighton of 20 years ago you can have the concrete monstrosity of Churchill Square, the dated old seafront and the bleakness of the North Laines. All of which have been redeveloped. The wall art itself discreet but at the same time noticible enough to make Brighton the different place that it is today.
Oh and to STAN BAILEY,
As much as the ageist comments are unacceptable so are the 'outsider' comments. Everyone has a right to live here regardless of age or where they are from.

As with all art - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't like all the wall art I see anymore than I like all the Salvador Dali paintings I have seen.
Not all of it is that good! But it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
There's a very big difference between comissioned wall art and uncomissioned graffiti and, worse still - tagging.
I have no time at all for graffiti or tagging. There's nothing artistic about it, and it just makes the place look run down.
There's a small french village I know (population about 200) which commissioned a huge mural to be painted on a wall at the entrance to the village. It took the female artist(e) most of the summer to paint, and it's a thing of beauty and a talking point.
I really don't know why we get our knickers in such a twist over a few murals in Brighton!
Relax!

As with all art - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't like all the wall art I see anymore than I like all the Salvador Dali paintings I have seen.
Not all of it is that good! But it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
There's a very big difference between comissioned wall art and uncomissioned graffiti and, worse still - tagging.
I have no time at all for graffiti or tagging. There's nothing artistic about it, and it just makes the place look run down.
There's a small french village I know (population about 200) which commissioned a huge mural to be painted on a wall at the entrance to the village. It took the female artist(e) most of the summer to paint, and it's a thing of beauty and a talking point.
I really don't know why we get our knickers in such a twist over a few murals in Brighton!
Relax!

Bennn wrote:

scthetruth wrote:

Whitedot wrote:

scthetruth wrote:
Painting walls with bright colours in an artistic manner makes the area look like a run down gutter. A true sign of the Labour/Liberal classes living in the area. No class, no taste and no sense of decency. Analogous to a dog defecating over civilisation.

Well your post just defecated all over the Argus website.

Taste is a matter of opinion, and as Brighton is full of artists with taste, decency and far classier than Daily Mail readers like yourself, I suggest you move to another town.

You won't be missed.

Until outside rubbish such as yourself moved in and decided to try and paint every wall in B&H we had a decent looking place. We don't need any of your so called rainbow art tripe spread throughout every backwater street. We Brightonians already have our Regency, Edwardian and Art Deco architecture and, above all our history which we are proud of.

The majority of people here want to see the centre of town a clean and tidy place, with well kept lawns and gardens just like they were 30 years ago. Very little crime and people had respect for the war monuments too.

Crawl back into your drug infested hole from whence you came and take your empty spray cans with you.

Yeah right mate twenty years ago Brighton was a dump and everyone knows that. It was called "skid row on sea" and loads of streets were run-down. Thanks to the all the trendy people, artists, students and young professionals who moved here it has become one of the most dynamic cities in the UK and is set to become a super city. Miserable old people such as yourself did nothing to help, all you do is complain. Crime rates are actually lower in Brighton than they were ten years ago and people still have respact for war monuments what the hell are you going on about? There is a nice place just down the road from Brighton where you will find Regency and Edwardian architecture too. It's called Eastbourne and I'm sure you're love it there!

Errr...Bennn, less of the "old" please when associating with "miserable". Not sure what you mean by "old" though - I'm in my 50s, does that count?

Anyway, I appreciate good graffiti (not mindless tagging) - especially a lot of the stuff in the North Laine. And, indeed, I think even my mother (nearly 80) would appreciate it.

Bennn, I think even Eastbourne would be too racy for scthetruth. Perhaps a small town in Switzerland or Austria or Idaho would be better.

One thing I'm puzzled about: do council staff have the right to paint over what is presumably private property?

I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here.

Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either?

You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians!

You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund.

As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Kevin1978 wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here.

Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either?

You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians!

You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund.

As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Ha ha ha. This is so true. Though a bit stereotyped perhaps but mainly true. I think a lot of them are ex students as well who stay on and live. But generally they are pretentious and while they would mostly like to urinate on the English or British flag (the country that feeds them) they worship that silly rainbow flag. For that matter they would prefer our country's flag replaced by the old Soviet one.

I am concerned about the effect this "art" is going to have upon my Mighty Horse! He is a good and proper Sussex Born and Bred Mighty Horse, used to gazing upon the fair and beige fronts of Regency architecture. Why, these splashes of colour have made him "freak out" and come here with his ideas from "London" ... you wouldn't believe the effect he's having on the true pure bred flaxen haired native Brightonians! You should hear him trying to talk in a cockney accent through his elongated horse face! We have become a laughing stock. Not just this, but I am concerned that the graffiti is making him yearn for a new outfit - he has braided his mane and added wooden beads and sandals! What has happened to this country? When Gordon Brown looks what he has done to a fine and trusty Sussex horse, I do hope he thinks again about legalising brightly coloured walls and allowing our equine friends to get whacked up on goofballs. This country is going to hell in a handcart! I do not pay my taxes so people can purchase cans of paint and spray them on walls! I am weeping salty tears onto the braided back of my once mighty horse about what is happening to this once fine city! I say we need to put up a device which is known in Germany as a "Berlin Wall"! That will keep the graffiti artists out! Will someone please think of the children, persuade these students and dole entheusiasts to wash, supply equal rights for Mighty Horses, and restore some of the joyful civic values this country had in the 1930's when everything was beautiful and the children could play in the streets without being concerned about being kidnapped by artists with assumed identities and the blackshirts could be cheered by Lord Rothermere without fear of reprisals and the sun was actually warm, none of this dismal snow we have experienced under Gordon Brown. I say we bring back the rope for all teenagers found clutching a tin of paint - my dear Horse will sleep better in his stable knowing that we are keeping the streets clear of graffiti and making this town finally a place we can be proud of. Also we should deport everyone who cannot prove that they were born in Brighton or Hove to two Brighton and Hove parents, for they contain nothing but sophistry and illusion! Yes! The Revolution is Coming! Spooner! Spooner! Spooner!


Wow, my security word was "richard-littlejohn"
. Just fancy that!

Kevin1978 wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here.

Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either?

You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians!

You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund.

As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

This is a joke right?

Kevin1978 wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here.

Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either?

You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians!

You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund.

As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

This is a joke right?

Lewesman wrote:

Kevin1978 wrote: I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here. Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either? You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians! You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund. As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Ha ha ha. This is so true. Though a bit stereotyped perhaps but mainly true. I think a lot of them are ex students as well who stay on and live. But generally they are pretentious and while they would mostly like to urinate on the English or British flag (the country that feeds them) they worship that silly rainbow flag. For that matter they would prefer our country's flag replaced by the old Soviet one.

Have you two heard yourselves, you harp on about being pretentious yet claim you are the only ones to understand heritage and the history of Brighton.
Would you like to give us all your definition of 'art' seeing as no one else knows what it is.
As an 'outsider' i find your comments as offensive, stereotypical and ill informed.
The street art is what makes Brighton different, interesting and exciting and without it and many other quirky things in Brighton the city just becomes another boring seaside resort. It's also tucked away down side streets and you generally have to go and look for it, it's not as if it's staring you in the face everywhere you go.

Tut tut. Now we see one trying to write a poem, and a bad one at that. That is was the point that scthetruth was trying to make I think. Pretence that borders on the embarrassing. Give up your day dreaming day job and do a real days work like painting out the murals in B&H.

Lewesman wrote:
Tut tut. Now we see one trying to write a poem, and a bad one at that. That is was the point that scthetruth was trying to make I think. Pretence that borders on the embarrassing. Give up your day dreaming day job and do a real days work like painting out the murals in B&H.

I might have to run this by my Mighty Horse as I can't make head or tail of sense out of it. Perhaps Lewesman is all super-high on plant food!

I did have a laugh over some of these comments on this story.

Though some have gone off the subject I do think that referring to newspapers people may or may not read is infantile. I mean it sounds like most comments here are made by Daily Mirror, Guardian, The Independant and The Times readers as well as the totally partial to Communism, BBC news!

I know Brighton has a plague of outside inter bred left wingers but really, this is a bit rich.

Ye Gods...what have I started! What ever your feelings about graffiti or street art, or indeed art in general, it's certainly emotive and sparks a **** good debate. More of the same I say!

Lewesman wrote:

Kevin1978 wrote: I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here. Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either? You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians! You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund. As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Ha ha ha. This is so true. Though a bit stereotyped perhaps but mainly true. I think a lot of them are ex students as well who stay on and live. But generally they are pretentious and while they would mostly like to urinate on the English or British flag (the country that feeds them) they worship that silly rainbow flag. For that matter they would prefer our country's flag replaced by the old Soviet one.

I've really been trying to see things from your point of view but I'm afraid I couldn't reach around that far to wedge my head up my backside... :)

What a pair of sweeping statements they are. Not to mention downright rude. I'm an 'outsider' by your standards I expect but I do none of those things - I work locally and contribute to the economy - how is that a bad thing? Why do you resent people moving into the town so much - it's not 'yours', you don't own it....!!

It's a good thing there are 'outsiders' in Brighton because it seems like the 'natives' are a bunch of stuck up twits! (whilst we're still generalising)

I feel sorry for both of you, being unable to appreciate differences between people and not being able to enjoy the diversity we have here in OUR city..... :)

She-Ra, Princess Of Power wrote:

Lewesman wrote:

Kevin1978 wrote: I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here. Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either? You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians! You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund. As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Ha ha ha. This is so true. Though a bit stereotyped perhaps but mainly true. I think a lot of them are ex students as well who stay on and live. But generally they are pretentious and while they would mostly like to urinate on the English or British flag (the country that feeds them) they worship that silly rainbow flag. For that matter they would prefer our country's flag replaced by the old Soviet one.

I've really been trying to see things from your point of view but I'm afraid I couldn't reach around that far to wedge my head up my backside... :)

What a pair of sweeping statements they are. Not to mention downright rude. I'm an 'outsider' by your standards I expect but I do none of those things - I work locally and contribute to the economy - how is that a bad thing? Why do you resent people moving into the town so much - it's not 'yours', you don't own it....!!

It's a good thing there are 'outsiders' in Brighton because it seems like the 'natives' are a bunch of stuck up twits! (whilst we're still generalising)

I feel sorry for both of you, being unable to appreciate differences between people and not being able to enjoy the diversity we have here in OUR city..... :)

Put your woolly hat on and go off and live in India or somewhere. Diversity is a filthy word and means very little to most Brits.

"I feel sorry for both of you, being unable to appreciate differences between people and not being able to enjoy the diversity we have here"

Why do you think everyone should agree with diversity and relish it? I for one am proud of my English heritage and ancestry stretching back hundreds of years. I prefer to live in an English cultural landscape with English traditions. I do not care what the colour of a persons skin is but I am NOT happy when I see the country's people and its history rubbished by the likes of people like you who wish our flag was black and white. This country is called Great Britain and the people who live here are British and always will be. By the way I vote Liberal Democrat and read The Times.

This country may indeed be called Great Britain, Kevin, but the Queen and the rest of the royal family are German. There's diversity for you.

I do not like to see walls around B&H painted with bright colours either. I think it looks unsightly but that is my opinion. But if someone wants to do it they should have to get planning permission first. Seems that there is one rule for a minority and another for the rest of us. I wonder how the council would react if someone wanted to paint large British or English flags on outside walls?

Turing Test wrote:
This country may indeed be called Great Britain, Kevin, but the Queen and the rest of the royal family are German. There's diversity for you.

I am fully aware of the history of my country thank you!

Having some French blood in me (130 years ago) does not make me French. I am English and British because this is where I was born and the country I love. To me the word diversity means different culture because it is a different country. We do indeed live in a diverse world. Diversity in Britain means your either Scottish, English, Welsh or Northern Irish. And that's it.

hollingburybud wrote:

She-Ra, Princess Of Power wrote:

Lewesman wrote:

Kevin1978 wrote: I'm inclined to agree with scthetruth here. Art is one thing but painted all over walls out on the street is another. What has a persons age got to do with the argument either? You incomers to B&H are a joke. You move here (mostly from London) and bring your ideas and then try to push them onto the native Brightonians! You all move and live in the centre mostly too. And what a rat hole it has become and no wonder. What a pretentious type you people are, with your green woolly cardigans, braided hair, wooden beads and sandals. You wouldn't know true art if it was sticking in your back sides. Spending all your days sitting on your behinds smoking drugs and spouting your bull all day then off to pick up your dole money that we, the tax payers, have to fund. As for Eastbourne and other Sussex towns, well Brightonians regard themselves as proud Sussex people. We understand our heritage. Something you drifters have cannot comprehend.

Ha ha ha. This is so true. Though a bit stereotyped perhaps but mainly true. I think a lot of them are ex students as well who stay on and live. But generally they are pretentious and while they would mostly like to urinate on the English or British flag (the country that feeds them) they worship that silly rainbow flag. For that matter they would prefer our country's flag replaced by the old Soviet one.

I've really been trying to see things from your point of view but I'm afraid I couldn't reach around that far to wedge my head up my backside... :) What a pair of sweeping statements they are. Not to mention downright rude. I'm an 'outsider' by your standards I expect but I do none of those things - I work locally and contribute to the economy - how is that a bad thing? Why do you resent people moving into the town so much - it's not 'yours', you don't own it....!! It's a good thing there are 'outsiders' in Brighton because it seems like the 'natives' are a bunch of stuck up twits! (whilst we're still generalising) I feel sorry for both of you, being unable to appreciate differences between people and not being able to enjoy the diversity we have here in OUR city..... :)

Put your woolly hat on and go off and live in India or somewhere. Diversity is a filthy word and means very little to most Brits.

Diversity is a filthy word??? What drugs are you on? Diversity is a beautiful word and diversity has saved Brighton. Look what the city was like twenty years ago! I work with Indian students and they are all beautiful people who contribute massively to Brighton's economy and help promote the city overseas. When I walk around Brighton on a saturday night it's the British chavs I see causing trouble, not the Indians, or the Spanish, or the Koreans. The cities that are thriving in the world today such as Toronto are the ones that have made the most of their diversity.

sussexladybabe wrote:
I do not like to see walls around B&H painted with bright colours either. I think it looks unsightly but that is my opinion. But if someone wants to do it they should have to get planning permission first. Seems that there is one rule for a minority and another for the rest of us. I wonder how the council would react if someone wanted to paint large British or English flags on outside walls?

What you need to remember regarding the original story - and every one seems to be getting off the beaten path here - is that the artists had permission from the DoY Cinema to paint the building in the first place. This was also supervised as well as enjoyed by a cross section of residents from every class, socio-economic background and age. Partly, the aim of the work was to break down the myth that all street art/graffiti is mindless vandalism and besides, it was only going to be up for a few days before the walls were restored to how they were before. The article inaccurately reported that it was going to be up for two weeks. It would have been a week at most. B&HCC are also keen to work with artists such as these as they have the vision to see that they are artists, creative, and with a stake in our town too. Not criminals! In fact, graffiti artists have been working alongside the council to ensure the mindless tagging that we all hate is slowly but surely stamped out. And believe it or not it is having a positive effect. To suggest that all street artists or indeed people who like it are druggies, drop outs, DFLs or otherwise is narrow minded and a rediculous opinion. The now famous Obama "HOPE" poster was designed by a street artist and then adopted by his campaign team and is recalled all over the world. It now hangs in the Museum of Modern Art in New York. Art can be a positive for all of us and we should be all a little more opened mined and tolerent of each other. I still think we are in Brighton and for me that makes it so much a better town than most places to live. No one wants Brighton to look like the South Bronx of the '70s (and it's never likely to either) but at the same time street art and art in general is brightening up Brighton. We should not lose sight of that!

"hollingburybud
Put your woolly hat on and go off and live in India or somewhere. Diversity is a filthy word and means very little to most Brits"
Aaah, you're a real treat, aren't you :) Wolly hat? India? How very thoughtful of you. Will you pay for the plane ticket? :)

"Kevin1978, Patcham, Brighton says...
1:58pm Mon 15 Mar 10

"I feel sorry for both of you, being unable to appreciate differences between people and not being able to enjoy the diversity we have here"

Why do you think everyone should agree with diversity and relish it? I for one am proud of my English heritage and ancestry stretching back hundreds of years. I prefer to live in an English cultural landscape with English traditions. I do not care what the colour of a persons skin is but I am NOT happy when I see the country's people and its history rubbished by the likes of people like you who wish our flag was black and white. This country is called Great Britain and the people who live here are British and always will be. By the way I vote Liberal Democrat and read The Times."

Kevin, I really couldn't care less which political party you like or which paper you read. It bothers me not.
I didn't say that I thought that anyone should agree with it nor did I say that everyone should like it. Each to their own, it's not my place to tell people what to think. What I said was I feel sorry for people like you who are unable to appreciate and enjoy it in all it's glory :) You're missing out! It's a shame you're making so many assumptions about people you have never met. 'Rubbishing' our history? What on earth makes you think I wish to do that - because I like diversity and don't mind the street art?! Deary me, dear.... Is it depressing in Kevin world, with all the bad hippies out to get you and destroy your English Heritage?!

"Wolly hat?"

You said it!

I'm 40 and I love the Brighton street art. Its a far cry from what there is in London, and is more akin to what there is in Barcelona.
The paintings are down tiny alleys on the backs of quite run down buildings of very little aesthetic or archectural value, and are nowhere near Regency or Edwardian buildings - so to sat they are vandalism is totally fatuous and false!

What I really want is for all those people who've come to Brighton to go back home to where they've come from.
What I really want is that the town is left with just Brightonians
What I mean by Brightonians are the fishermen who built this town.
When that Prince Regent started building his palace here, that's when it all went downhill............
........
Bugger! There's nobody left to pay my pention, pay tax to the council in order for renovation work to take place or be able to give anybody in my family job.
Please come back. please?

HAHAHAAA you guys are hysterical!
But back on topic though.... Did it not occur to the city clean 'patrol' to speak to the Duke of York proprietors before painting their building?!

I think councils are a law unto themselves.. they never ask anyone anything before they do it... IME