A crackdown on sex and raunchy behaviour has been unveiled.
Brighton and Hove City Council is looking to introduce strict quotas to ban any more sex shops and lap dancing clubs within the city’s boundaries.
City bosses believe the new powers will give local people a greater say while promoting sexual equality.
But critics have warned the review could signal the end for Brighton and Hove being a “cheeky tourist destination”.
There are also fears the crackdown will impact on nightclubs and the Fringe festival, which brings millions of pounds into the city’s economy every year.
The report, which will be discussed by the council's licensing committee, recommends lap dancing clubs should be upgraded from “public entertainment” centres to the same category as sex shops.
It states no more than the three current lap dancing clubs should be allowed in the city.
The plans also set maximum appropriate numbers set for sex shops, which includes two in St James’s Street, two near Brighton station and one in Hove.
Officers state there should be no more anywhere else in the city.
The council drafted a paper in preparation for the Policing and Crime Act, which is due to start in May.
Luminar Leisure, which operates Tru and Oceana nightclubs, has raised fears with the council about whether any new legislation will affect its podium dancers.
Burlesque dancers and some Fringe acts could also be affected.
The Home Office has confirmed these applications will continue to be dealt with on individual cases.
Denise Cobb, chairwoman of the council’s licensing committee, said: “We welcome the new legislation which will give us tighter controls to limit the number and location of lap dancing clubs.
“We are currently consulting on a draft policy to cover lap dancing clubs and people are welcome to give us their view to help shape this.
“The consultation period runs until the end of August.
“At present there are three lap dancing clubs in the city. We are not expecting an influx of applications for new venues, but by drawing up a new policy we will be ready to deal with any applications if and when we receive them.”
The Argus contacted the three licensed lap dancing clubs in the city but none were available for comment.
The proposals will be discussed by the licensing committee on Thursday.
If approved they will go out to a 12-week consultation process.
Council officers hope the first applications under the new scheme will start to be heard from May.
Comments
Now the bloody Tories are trying to ban sex.
They have gone completely mad.
Why not start banning thuggery, students and youngsters being so drunk they urinate and vomit everywhere and create havoc and violence.
Now the bloody Tories are trying to ban sex.
They have gone completely mad.
Why not start banning thuggery, students and youngsters being so drunk they urinate and vomit everywhere and create havoc and violence.
I think a better idea would be to ban nudity from local parks.
I think a better idea would be to ban nudity from local parks.
very interesting, ok, lets see how far they are prepared to go with this, if its anything like their health and safety issues, flag banning, etc. will the naked bike ride be stopped, will the pride march be stopped? these could be classed as raunchy in some peoples eyes, the nudist beach also. anyone gays walking around kemp town, some of them dress rather raunchingly. its a stupid idea, but i cant wait for the "sex and raunch" police to be on the street, "hello, hello, hello, what ave we ere then, a fine pair of legs with a thong at the top, follow me to the station please, and walk this way" "i cant, my legs dont rub at the top like yours" boom, boom.
very interesting, ok, lets see how far they are prepared to go with this, if its anything like their health and safety issues, flag banning, etc. will the naked bike ride be stopped, will the pride march be stopped? these could be classed as raunchy in some peoples eyes, the nudist beach also. anyone gays walking around kemp town, some of them dress rather raunchingly. its a stupid idea, but i cant wait for the "sex and raunch" police to be on the street, "hello, hello, hello, what ave we ere then, a fine pair of legs with a thong at the top, follow me to the station please, and walk this way" "i cant, my legs dont rub at the top like yours" boom, boom.
nice to see jo wadsworth adding her personal pics to the piece too, well done jo.
nice to see jo wadsworth adding her personal pics to the piece too, well done jo.
dixie normous wrote…
nice to see jo wadsworth adding her personal pics to the piece too, well done jo.
Have you seen who wrote the article, maybe it's Tim Ridgway? lol!
dixie normous wrote…
nice to see jo wadsworth adding her personal pics to the piece too, well done jo.
Have you seen who wrote the article, maybe it's Tim Ridgway? lol!
And will there be a crackdown on the goings on at Duke's Mound by any chance or is it not classed as 'sex or raunch'?
And will there be a crackdown on the goings on at Duke's Mound by any chance or is it not classed as 'sex or raunch'?
So will Mary Mears sack the Mayor for his outrageous display of simulated sex with a tranny Marilyn Monroe sort-of-lookalike?
So will Mary Mears sack the Mayor for his outrageous display of simulated sex with a tranny Marilyn Monroe sort-of-lookalike?
What on earth is the connection between the picture and the story?
She doesn't look like she works in one of the town's three sex shops and seeing as she has a fag in her hand, she can't be a lap dancer at work.
I assumed from the picture and the headline that the council were going to have a crack down on the huge number of knocking shops that openly advertise in town but no, they are just going to after lap dancers and old men who fancy a **** in the privacy of their own home.
What on earth is the connection between the picture and the story?
She doesn't look like she works in one of the town's three sex shops and seeing as she has a fag in her hand, she can't be a lap dancer at work.
I assumed from the picture and the headline that the council were going to have a crack down on the huge number of knocking shops that openly advertise in town but no, they are just going to after lap dancers and old men who fancy a **** in the privacy of their own home.
Ruanchy!! what a brilliant word!! probably had it's day back in the 50's!! will the prudish council arrest people snogging at bus stops as that could be seen as quite raunchy couldn't it!!
Ruanchy!! what a brilliant word!! probably had it's day back in the 50's!! will the prudish council arrest people snogging at bus stops as that could be seen as quite raunchy couldn't it!!
“We are currently consulting on a draft policy to cover lap dancing clubs and people are welcome to give us their view to help shape this."
My view was very nice thankyou. Hourglass is my preferred shape.
“We are currently consulting on a draft policy to cover lap dancing clubs and people are welcome to give us their view to help shape this."
My view was very nice thankyou. Hourglass is my preferred shape.
Maybe they can also do something about the disgusting way girls seem to dress these days when going to school.
Skirts barely covering their backside, blouses far too tight looking worse than a $2 hooker with behaviour to match.
Maybe they can also do something about the disgusting way girls seem to dress these days when going to school.
Skirts barely covering their backside, blouses far too tight looking worse than a $2 hooker with behaviour to match.
Perhaps they're just getting in the early preparations for Sharia Law!
Perhaps they're just getting in the early preparations for Sharia Law!
It will all end in tears when they find some tory worthy in a 'compromising situation' with some rent boy or call girl, just as they did in the dying days of John Major's dim-witted government when his ludicrous 'back to basics'campaign totally backfired on him.
It will all end in tears when they find some tory worthy in a 'compromising situation' with some rent boy or call girl, just as they did in the dying days of John Major's dim-witted government when his ludicrous 'back to basics'campaign totally backfired on him.
Best not whinge on too loud about raunchy clubs in Brighton. Whoever did for Club Redd in Burgess Hill two years ago remains at liberty. Hmm ... help wanted?
Best not whinge on too loud about raunchy clubs in Brighton. Whoever did for Club Redd in Burgess Hill two years ago remains at liberty. Hmm ... help wanted?
Ban the tourist industry altogether and bring in some jobs that pay more than min rate, anyway when you ban something from being out in the open it simply goes underground and into the hands of those who do not care about laws, well done Tories ban Fun.
Ban the tourist industry altogether and bring in some jobs that pay more than min rate, anyway when you ban something from being out in the open it simply goes underground and into the hands of those who do not care about laws, well done Tories ban Fun.
Brightonscouse2 wrote…
And will there be a crackdown on the goings on at Duke's Mound by any chance or is it not classed as 'sex or raunch'?
I agree. What hypocrites the councillors are. The send their "outreach workers" to Duke's Mound to make sure the participants in the outdoor sex are following safe sex rules and working with their partners "the police" they have agreed that the police ensure that the sex activities are protected from being attacked. The area is littered with rubbish and condoms. They allow this and then want to stop a well controlled club. They are utterly nuts.
Brightonscouse2 wrote…
And will there be a crackdown on the goings on at Duke's Mound by any chance or is it not classed as 'sex or raunch'?
I agree. What hypocrites the councillors are. The send their "outreach workers" to Duke's Mound to make sure the participants in the outdoor sex are following safe sex rules and working with their partners "the police" they have agreed that the police ensure that the sex activities are protected from being attacked. The area is littered with rubbish and condoms. They allow this and then want to stop a well controlled club. They are utterly nuts.
Brighton has always relied upon the sex industry in order to survive, regardless of which gender or sexual orientation is involved.
B&B's and hotels would suffer if this was restricted with the implication of any control on the 'sex'industry. Clubs would suffer and some may have to close; clubs like Oceana and Revenge which rely upon occasional 'cheeky mild sex shows' to attract more customers and therefore pay its workforce a welcome wage.
Brighton would then lose its reputation as being a Metrosexual City with negative results.
It is all very good having wonderful eating establishments but food is just the start of a good night out; restricting our pleasures that follow food and drink would be the start of a death sentence on Brighton & Hove. Unless the Council are happy to have residents and businesses that don't contribute to their Rate income due to our low incomes!
Brighton has always relied upon the sex industry in order to survive, regardless of which gender or sexual orientation is involved.
B&B's and hotels would suffer if this was restricted with the implication of any control on the 'sex'industry. Clubs would suffer and some may have to close; clubs like Oceana and Revenge which rely upon occasional 'cheeky mild sex shows' to attract more customers and therefore pay its workforce a welcome wage.
Brighton would then lose its reputation as being a Metrosexual City with negative results.
It is all very good having wonderful eating establishments but food is just the start of a good night out; restricting our pleasures that follow food and drink would be the start of a death sentence on Brighton & Hove. Unless the Council are happy to have residents and businesses that don't contribute to their Rate income due to our low incomes!
The existing clubs and sex shops will of course end up with a monopoly. This has all the hallmarks of a stitch up to protect commercial interests; the sort of thing you would expect in any corrupt African state.. Expect the Meers' logo outside these premises any time soon: the Brighton and Hove emblem enhanced with a prancing reindeer proclaiming
"Meers working together with Brighton and Hove Council".
Take a look at their vans! I think the artwork should more correctly state "Brighton and Hove Council working together with Meers.
The existing clubs and sex shops will of course end up with a monopoly. This has all the hallmarks of a stitch up to protect commercial interests; the sort of thing you would expect in any corrupt African state.. Expect the Meers' logo outside these premises any time soon: the Brighton and Hove emblem enhanced with a prancing reindeer proclaiming
"Meers working together with Brighton and Hove Council".
Take a look at their vans! I think the artwork should more correctly state "Brighton and Hove Council working together with Meers.
ssilkystone wrote…
Ban the tourist industry altogether and bring in some jobs that pay more than min rate, anyway when you ban something from being out in the open it simply goes underground and into the hands of those who do not care about laws, well done Tories ban Fun.
Ok so stop the tourists from coming to Brighton and see just how many jobs that will go through this totally mad idea. If you live on the coast then tourism is the main source of income. Instead of slagging off the people that bring income to your City think about the small minded people and the scum living in Brighton. You have a choice to live there so if you don't like then go and live some that has no tourists
ssilkystone wrote…
Ban the tourist industry altogether and bring in some jobs that pay more than min rate, anyway when you ban something from being out in the open it simply goes underground and into the hands of those who do not care about laws, well done Tories ban Fun.
Ok so stop the tourists from coming to Brighton and see just how many jobs that will go through this totally mad idea. If you live on the coast then tourism is the main source of income. Instead of slagging off the people that bring income to your City think about the small minded people and the scum living in Brighton. You have a choice to live there so if you don't like then go and live some that has no tourists
What people buy in sex shops is for home use and strip clubs generally have good security to stop anything getting out of hand, neither of these businesses contribute to anti-social behaviour or crime.
It is sadly just another Mary Mears idea to try and turn lively, fun Brighton into another Tunbridge wells, perhaps we should make people where overcoats on the beach as well? People might see a bit of flesh otherwise!
What people buy in sex shops is for home use and strip clubs generally have good security to stop anything getting out of hand, neither of these businesses contribute to anti-social behaviour or crime.
It is sadly just another Mary Mears idea to try and turn lively, fun Brighton into another Tunbridge wells, perhaps we should make people where overcoats on the beach as well? People might see a bit of flesh otherwise!
gorblimeyguv, How right you are, :-)
You have to wonder what they do in their cozy offices all day if this is the garbage they can come up with. It isn't as if the town in crawling with sex shops or clubs.
Will they extend their ideas to gay pride when all the exhibitionists arrive with their thongs, rubber and outrageous outfits. There's more sex on display that day than at any other time and you don't have to go looking for it. Of course, money is brought to town that day so I guess it's ok then.
And no, I have no objection to gay pride, just the council who operate by double standards. Again they forget who pays their wages.
gorblimeyguv, How right you are, :-)
You have to wonder what they do in their cozy offices all day if this is the garbage they can come up with. It isn't as if the town in crawling with sex shops or clubs.
Will they extend their ideas to gay pride when all the exhibitionists arrive with their thongs, rubber and outrageous outfits. There's more sex on display that day than at any other time and you don't have to go looking for it. Of course, money is brought to town that day so I guess it's ok then.
And no, I have no objection to gay pride, just the council who operate by double standards. Again they forget who pays their wages.
Cass wrote…
gorblimeyguv, How right you are, :-) You have to wonder what they do in their cozy offices all day if this is the garbage they can come up with. It isn't as if the town in crawling with sex shops or clubs. Will they extend their ideas to gay pride when all the exhibitionists arrive with their thongs, rubber and outrageous outfits. There's more sex on display that day than at any other time and you don't have to go looking for it. Of course, money is brought to town that day so I guess it's ok then. And no, I have no objection to gay pride, just the council who operate by double standards. Again they forget who pays their wages.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Cass wrote…
gorblimeyguv, How right you are, :-) You have to wonder what they do in their cozy offices all day if this is the garbage they can come up with. It isn't as if the town in crawling with sex shops or clubs. Will they extend their ideas to gay pride when all the exhibitionists arrive with their thongs, rubber and outrageous outfits. There's more sex on display that day than at any other time and you don't have to go looking for it. Of course, money is brought to town that day so I guess it's ok then. And no, I have no objection to gay pride, just the council who operate by double standards. Again they forget who pays their wages.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
How about a crackdown on Cyclists on the pavements and running red lights...or the car crime....or city centre violence.....NO! Lets buy more Q Cars for the motorist crackdown and stop lap dancing.....What a City....
How about a crackdown on Cyclists on the pavements and running red lights...or the car crime....or city centre violence.....NO! Lets buy more Q Cars for the motorist crackdown and stop lap dancing.....What a City....
Like it or not, Brighton is long overdue some sort of moral control. It's becoming popular for all the wrong reasons. Also, if you look closely you'll spot the association between the sex trade in general and crime at most levels. Definitely not a place for ordinary decent folk ! More of the same please Brighton Council ?
Like it or not, Brighton is long overdue some sort of moral control. It's becoming popular for all the wrong reasons. Also, if you look closely you'll spot the association between the sex trade in general and crime at most levels. Definitely not a place for ordinary decent folk ! More of the same please Brighton Council ?
Welcome to a free country!
The Lap dancing clubs in Brighton are so low profiles, it's actually hard to find them.
What possible harm can more discreet establishments cause? No-one is forced to work there or visit them.
More competition might reduce their high prices.
Welcome to a free country!
The Lap dancing clubs in Brighton are so low profiles, it's actually hard to find them.
What possible harm can more discreet establishments cause? No-one is forced to work there or visit them.
More competition might reduce their high prices.
I am usually very disparaging of the council, however this time I think they are right, I cannot believe all these years of feminism that women are still being exploited as objects for men to regard as sex objects..Sex frequently brings disease, cheating and misery - the fun bit is often hyped up
I am usually very disparaging of the council, however this time I think they are right, I cannot believe all these years of feminism that women are still being exploited as objects for men to regard as sex objects..Sex frequently brings disease, cheating and misery - the fun bit is often hyped up
If you can't come to Brighton for a bit of naughtiness, then you really wouldn't want to come at all.
It is generally believed the English discovered sex around 1963, but I reckon they made a mistake and simply stumbled upon masturbation.
If you can't come to Brighton for a bit of naughtiness, then you really wouldn't want to come at all.
It is generally believed the English discovered sex around 1963, but I reckon they made a mistake and simply stumbled upon masturbation.
stan you talk about feminism and then we see photos of the mayor with his hands all over some woman dressed up as Marilyn Monroe, and as we all know Marilyn is now considered as a tragic and iconic victim of a patriacal society and the sex trade at the highest political levels.
So to see the mayor 'manhandling' some tragic icon of the sex trade like something from a bygone age is much more inappropriate than if he had gone to a strip club where women choose to work in a controlled envrionment for good money. Oh and my missus has often gone out with the girls to see male strippers.
So perhaps the Tories should clean up their own smutty act before telling everyone else what to do.
stan you talk about feminism and then we see photos of the mayor with his hands all over some woman dressed up as Marilyn Monroe, and as we all know Marilyn is now considered as a tragic and iconic victim of a patriacal society and the sex trade at the highest political levels.
So to see the mayor 'manhandling' some tragic icon of the sex trade like something from a bygone age is much more inappropriate than if he had gone to a strip club where women choose to work in a controlled envrionment for good money. Oh and my missus has often gone out with the girls to see male strippers.
So perhaps the Tories should clean up their own smutty act before telling everyone else what to do.
Does anyone else think Mary Mears really just desperately wishes she lived in Bournemouth?
My dear, if you want a fuddy-duddy little city full of modestly-dressed, middle-class, WI-attending old ladies, you're in the wrong place.
Sod off up the coast, because there are plenty of characterless granny towns for you to enjoy elsewhere and I'm quite sure they'd be much more appreciative of your hypocritical conservative god complex.
I myself am straight-edge (have no involvement with drugs or alcohol of any kind, don't engage in promiscuous behaviour) and have no vested interest in the sex industry, but I do not want to see frigid old prigs trying to destroy what makes Brighton the city we love. Who even voted for this old crow, anyway?
Does anyone else think Mary Mears really just desperately wishes she lived in Bournemouth?
My dear, if you want a fuddy-duddy little city full of modestly-dressed, middle-class, WI-attending old ladies, you're in the wrong place.
Sod off up the coast, because there are plenty of characterless granny towns for you to enjoy elsewhere and I'm quite sure they'd be much more appreciative of your hypocritical conservative god complex.
I myself am straight-edge (have no involvement with drugs or alcohol of any kind, don't engage in promiscuous behaviour) and have no vested interest in the sex industry, but I do not want to see frigid old prigs trying to destroy what makes Brighton the city we love. Who even voted for this old crow, anyway?
Councils spending too much time in meetings, discussing topics and passing regulations concerning 'fringe' matters that are easy targets, because they are unable to do anything about the things that really do matter to the voters. Things are going to get tight financially all over the country, due to government overspending, so we should be making sure that our elected representatives spend the reducing resources on things of real importance to the citizens and taxpayers.
Councils spending too much time in meetings, discussing topics and passing regulations concerning 'fringe' matters that are easy targets, because they are unable to do anything about the things that really do matter to the voters. Things are going to get tight financially all over the country, due to government overspending, so we should be making sure that our elected representatives spend the reducing resources on things of real importance to the citizens and taxpayers.
"while promoting sexual equality."
Male lap dancers?
"while promoting sexual equality."
Male lap dancers?
Tammy Flugh wrote…
"while promoting sexual equality." Male lap dancers?
Would they be pole-dancers then?
Seriously, a picture of a fully clad o woman putting on a garter is considered raunchy?
Serously though folks, it's not the kill-joys that get me so much as the "up-their-own-@rses" who think that having three lap dancing clubs clubs make Brighton some kind of vibrant, happening, cosmopolitan place to be. They even get excited over people riding their bikes naked, bless 'em.
Get a grip, Brighton is just an average town with delusions of grandeur. Amsterdam it certainly is not.
Tammy Flugh wrote…
"while promoting sexual equality." Male lap dancers?
Would they be pole-dancers then?
Seriously, a picture of a fully clad o woman putting on a garter is considered raunchy?
Serously though folks, it's not the kill-joys that get me so much as the "up-their-own-@rses" who think that having three lap dancing clubs clubs make Brighton some kind of vibrant, happening, cosmopolitan place to be. They even get excited over people riding their bikes naked, bless 'em.
Get a grip, Brighton is just an average town with delusions of grandeur. Amsterdam it certainly is not.
Number six...totally agree, have the Council leaders never visited Soho or Amsterdam? Makes this place look pretty tame...BUT would far rather have more of this kind of stuff "behind closed doors" than the ever relenting and increasingly obscene displays of public nudity and disgusting promiscuous behaviour by our gay and cycle riding exhibitionist friends!
Number six...totally agree, have the Council leaders never visited Soho or Amsterdam? Makes this place look pretty tame...BUT would far rather have more of this kind of stuff "behind closed doors" than the ever relenting and increasingly obscene displays of public nudity and disgusting promiscuous behaviour by our gay and cycle riding exhibitionist friends!
Glad to see most of the comments on here reflect my views, that's one positive thing about this story. This is really very worrying. Brighton is the home of sexual freedom. People come here so they can be who they truly are without being judged for their sexual preferences. If people express themselves freely then their equalilty is not in jeopardy. That is a flimsy reason for this crackdown. If there's a clear link to these establishments and crime, then publish it and justify these actions properly, don't hide behind political spin.
Glad to see most of the comments on here reflect my views, that's one positive thing about this story. This is really very worrying. Brighton is the home of sexual freedom. People come here so they can be who they truly are without being judged for their sexual preferences. If people express themselves freely then their equalilty is not in jeopardy. That is a flimsy reason for this crackdown. If there's a clear link to these establishments and crime, then publish it and justify these actions properly, don't hide behind political spin.
Sexaul repression is not the way forward for brighton.
How about using resources to hunt the scumbags that do sexaul trafficing for means of prostitution? That is like the worst crime ever and instead of using laws and police resources to go after these people that peddle flesh more then often against the persons wishes you are going after consenting adults and adult venues, since these shops are not illegal or even immoral in this age capitalism should dictate the supply and demmand of sex shops, Not local goverment, they are just meddlesome.
Sexaul repression is not the way forward for brighton.
How about using resources to hunt the scumbags that do sexaul trafficing for means of prostitution? That is like the worst crime ever and instead of using laws and police resources to go after these people that peddle flesh more then often against the persons wishes you are going after consenting adults and adult venues, since these shops are not illegal or even immoral in this age capitalism should dictate the supply and demmand of sex shops, Not local goverment, they are just meddlesome.
well,denise cobb?,i new her in the mid 90,s,odd she is in the news to stop this topic,and in the local govt,how odd.
well,denise cobb?,i new her in the mid 90,s,odd she is in the news to stop this topic,and in the local govt,how odd.
Like it or not Brighton has become a sordid and seedy place. In too many parts of the city little more than a basic animal culture exists towards sex. Well done to the Council for having the basic courage to address this issue. Yes..yes...I can hear the gay community, prostitutes, pimps etc..etc.. sharpening their highly developed intellectual skills to write a damming reply to my narrow mindedness, oppressive attitude etc.. !
Like it or not Brighton has become a sordid and seedy place. In too many parts of the city little more than a basic animal culture exists towards sex. Well done to the Council for having the basic courage to address this issue. Yes..yes...I can hear the gay community, prostitutes, pimps etc..etc.. sharpening their highly developed intellectual skills to write a damming reply to my narrow mindedness, oppressive attitude etc.. !
If Labour was doing this, the Tories would be screaming 'nanny state' or 'men-hating kill-joy feminists' !
New government; same old hypocrisy.
If Labour was doing this, the Tories would be screaming 'nanny state' or 'men-hating kill-joy feminists' !
New government; same old hypocrisy.
Peteinblack wrote…
If Labour was doing this, the Tories would be screaming 'nanny state' or 'men-hating kill-joy feminists' ! New government; same old hypocrisy.
Nothing whatsoever to do with politics. Just simple human morals that separate us from animals.
Peteinblack wrote…
If Labour was doing this, the Tories would be screaming 'nanny state' or 'men-hating kill-joy feminists' ! New government; same old hypocrisy.
Nothing whatsoever to do with politics. Just simple human morals that separate us from animals.
Punters from croydon are always heading our way ha ha
Brian 9 Sewer wrote…
Punters from croydon are always heading our way ha ha
That tells me Croydon is better run. Brighton is only providing immoral sex services for the minority of Croydon's immoral element. If that's the policy in Brighton, tell everyone and they will flock from all over Europe !!! At least then Brighton will be able to drop that phony pretence about being 'family orientated'.
Brian 9 Sewer wrote…
Punters from croydon are always heading our way ha ha
That tells me Croydon is better run. Brighton is only providing immoral sex services for the minority of Croydon's immoral element. If that's the policy in Brighton, tell everyone and they will flock from all over Europe !!! At least then Brighton will be able to drop that phony pretence about being 'family orientated'.
stan bailey wrote…
I am usually very disparaging of the council, however this time I think they are right, I cannot believe all these years of feminism that women are still being exploited as objects for men to regard as sex objects..Sex frequently brings disease, cheating and misery - the fun bit is often hyped up
I would suggest it is the punters who are exploited. If men are stupid enough to fall over themselves to hand over great big wads of cash to see a bit of flesh, more fool them!
The women work in a safe, controlled environment for good money. If they were being pimped out it would be another story, but they're not. It is their choice to do that and quite frankly if I had the body to do it I would too! Talk about money for nothing...
I cannot understand why this is an important issue for the council when there is so much else that needs sorting out first.
If there was no demand for these places they wouldn't get any business and would soon shut down. Personally I couldn't care less how many there are as long as they're well controlled.
Why do they impose limits on 'raunchy' (LOL) places but it's ok to have a town that is literally overrun with supermarkets?!
stan bailey wrote…
I am usually very disparaging of the council, however this time I think they are right, I cannot believe all these years of feminism that women are still being exploited as objects for men to regard as sex objects..Sex frequently brings disease, cheating and misery - the fun bit is often hyped up
I would suggest it is the punters who are exploited. If men are stupid enough to fall over themselves to hand over great big wads of cash to see a bit of flesh, more fool them!
The women work in a safe, controlled environment for good money. If they were being pimped out it would be another story, but they're not. It is their choice to do that and quite frankly if I had the body to do it I would too! Talk about money for nothing...
I cannot understand why this is an important issue for the council when there is so much else that needs sorting out first.
If there was no demand for these places they wouldn't get any business and would soon shut down. Personally I couldn't care less how many there are as long as they're well controlled.
Why do they impose limits on 'raunchy' (LOL) places but it's ok to have a town that is literally overrun with supermarkets?!
Gubbins wrote…
Like it or not Brighton has become a sordid and seedy place. In too many parts of the city little more than a basic animal culture exists towards sex. Well done to the Council for having the basic courage to address this issue. Yes..yes...I can hear the gay community, prostitutes, pimps etc..etc.. sharpening their highly developed intellectual skills to write a damming reply to my narrow mindedness, oppressive attitude etc.. !
It's a very subjective issue. You find Brighton sordid and seedy, others do not. I didn't even know there were that many lapdancing clubs here and I've been here 5 years.
I have never experienced this 'basic animal' culture of which you speak, where can I find it? Sounds like fun :P
Just because some people's idea of fun isn't your own doesn't make it bad, good, wrong or right etc etc.... I'm curious as to what you've experienced to make those comments?
Gubbins wrote…
Like it or not Brighton has become a sordid and seedy place. In too many parts of the city little more than a basic animal culture exists towards sex. Well done to the Council for having the basic courage to address this issue. Yes..yes...I can hear the gay community, prostitutes, pimps etc..etc.. sharpening their highly developed intellectual skills to write a damming reply to my narrow mindedness, oppressive attitude etc.. !
It's a very subjective issue. You find Brighton sordid and seedy, others do not. I didn't even know there were that many lapdancing clubs here and I've been here 5 years.
I have never experienced this 'basic animal' culture of which you speak, where can I find it? Sounds like fun :P
Just because some people's idea of fun isn't your own doesn't make it bad, good, wrong or right etc etc.... I'm curious as to what you've experienced to make those comments?
She-Ra, Princess Of Power
As you accurately say "it's a very subjective issue" For that reason I stay out of Brighton as much as possible. I do however think the Argus is right in raising the subject for public debate. Nothing like diverse opinions for a proper debate.
She-Ra, Princess Of Power
As you accurately say "it's a very subjective issue" For that reason I stay out of Brighton as much as possible. I do however think the Argus is right in raising the subject for public debate. Nothing like diverse opinions for a proper debate.
Gubbins wrote…
Brian 9 Sewer wrote…
Punters from croydon are always heading our way ha ha
the only thing "better run" from croyden is the rail service!
Gubbins wrote…
Brian 9 Sewer wrote…
Punters from croydon are always heading our way ha ha
the only thing "better run" from croyden is the rail service!