Brighton's American Express Community Stadium unveiled

Brighton's American Express Community Stadium unveiled Brighton's American Express Community Stadium unveiled

This is the first image of the American Express Community Stadium.

The city’s largest private employer has signed a “landmark” multi-year deal with the county’s biggest football team to name the £93 million development.

The agreement, which will formally be announced today, has been heralded as a “great deal for the club, the company and the city”.

The move means the stadium, which is expected to be dubbed “The Amex”, will be used as a hub for community learning and engagement.

The club would not confirm how long the deal was for or how much it was worth.

The 22,500-seater stadium will officially be named today ahead of its opening in summer 2011.

Albion chairman Tony Bloom, who funded the stadium, said: “This is a landmark deal.

“We are very proud our fabulous new stadium and to have such a prestigious global brand prepared to put its name to it shows just how good it is.

“American Express is committed to the local community and is the perfect partner for us. I would like to thank them for their support.”

Michael Edwards, senior vice president of the firm, said: “We are delighted to be part of this collaboration with the club on what will undoubtedly be a major destination for Brighton and Hove.

“As the city’s largest private-sector employer, this partnership underscores out long-term commitment to the area and builds upon our 30 year heritage of supporting local community initiatives.”

Club officials have been in discussions with the firm for the last two years.

The Argus broke the news last month when it discovered an internet domain name linking the two had been registered.

The move, believed to be the firm’s first sponsorship venture into stadium naming rights, will see the finance company’s logo opposite the player’s tunnel.

Large logos will also be displayed on the stadium’s exterior.

The money from the agreement will be used to assist Albion in the Community’s learning and social inclusion programmes.

Martin Perry, the club’s chief executive, said: “This is a great deal for the club, a great deal for the company and a great deal for the city.”

Comments(68)

stinky pete says...
10:07am Tue 22 Jun 10

"The Argus broke the news last month when it discovered an internet domain name linking the two had been registered."

That's a bit cheeky, I don't think you can take the credit for that.

Abitzippy says...
10:24am Tue 22 Jun 10

What a mouthful, could they not have found a name easy to use

censored says...
10:25am Tue 22 Jun 10

Wow. That's beautiful and the "large logos" on the exterior can surely only enhance this architectural gem.

Charismatic Andrew says...
10:26am Tue 22 Jun 10

Please let's call it the "Amex Arena" rather than "American Express Community Stadium". It sounds so much better. You've got the Amsterdam ArenA (Ajax) and the Allianz Arena (Bayern Munich). Let's follow their lead.

Christophe Hawtree says...
10:31am Tue 22 Jun 10

Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...

mark by the sea says...
10:44am Tue 22 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
go look at it, obviously you not ventured out of hove? or look at the clubs own photos!
great deal for the club.. add the money from amex, to the euro and FA grant plus the road money for the club and the future is bright, any idea when first concert is planned? fat boy slim?

taes84 says...
10:57am Tue 22 Jun 10

censored wrote:
Wow. That's beautiful and the "large logos" on the exterior can surely only enhance this architectural gem.
Time to move on............ the stadium is nearly complete, its time to accept that.......

I doubt from your comment that you have travelled to many football grounds in the UK.......... its a darnsight better than some of the existing grounds!

Easy 10 says...
11:00am Tue 22 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger. Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost, and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand resplendent in that scrubby little field.

VIVA AMEX

taes84 says...
11:01am Tue 22 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Another boring comment..........

What a pointless argument u make, have you not thought that all things take time.... A stadium isnt going to go up over night is it............

Like ive said before.......... time to move on instead of complaining, the stadium is going to be there, the Goverment accepted it......

The security word is very app for this - Same-Beat (hopefully ill get broken record next)

mark by the sea says...
11:07am Tue 22 Jun 10

taes84 wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote: Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Another boring comment.......... What a pointless argument u make, have you not thought that all things take time.... A stadium isnt going to go up over night is it............ Like ive said before.......... time to move on instead of complaining, the stadium is going to be there, the Goverment accepted it...... The security word is very app for this - Same-Beat (hopefully ill get broken record next)
exactly .. some people think it wont happen still? its nearly done!!! for those who still want to bore the pants off every person with logic.. accept it.. and get out and look at the gorgeous stadium.. it is a modern master of beauty.

Hillbilly Bob says...
11:25am Tue 22 Jun 10

Easy 10 wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote: Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger. Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost, and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand resplendent in that scrubby little field. VIVA AMEX
I love this comment. I cannot wait to go to a game in the new stadium. Hoping to get tickets soon.

Cap'n Pugwash says...
11:26am Tue 22 Jun 10

Easy 10 wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger. Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost, and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand resplendent in that scrubby little field.

VIVA AMEX
Not VISA AMEX?

cheezburger says...
11:28am Tue 22 Jun 10

Thats not an image of the stadium, its a mock -up of what the stadium might look like. Artists impressions always make me laugh.

Gerro says...
11:36am Tue 22 Jun 10

er...it does look like that actually (minus the tarmac pathway and greenery, to be added later!). My hope is that some decent public transport is provided to access the stadium, not some crappy "football special" 1950's "shed on wheels" coach where you get treated like a criminal if you're on it!

Cap'n Pugwash says...
11:40am Tue 22 Jun 10

stinky pete wrote:
"The Argus broke the news last month when it discovered an internet domain name linking the two had been registered."

That's a bit cheeky, I don't think you can take the credit for that.
"The Argus got this news from a popular Albion forum last month when it revealed an internet domain name linking the two had been registered."

There-fixed it for you.

Old Dog says...
11:43am Tue 22 Jun 10

Should have gone to specsavers! Looks like the Eeyore Eyesore to me!

kentseagull says...
11:46am Tue 22 Jun 10

Brighton and Hove Albion AMEX Arena!! frickin awesome.

And yes the signage will probably need advertisement consent...:(

taes84 says...
11:48am Tue 22 Jun 10

Old Dog wrote:
Should have gone to specsavers! Looks like the Eeyore Eyesore to me!
Better grow some trees in your garden then.........

troubles says...
11:51am Tue 22 Jun 10

The singnage will need advertisement consent but it'll be little more than a formality.

censored says...
11:59am Tue 22 Jun 10

mark by the sea wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
go look at it, obviously you not ventured out of hove? or look at the clubs own photos!
great deal for the club.. add the money from amex, to the euro and FA grant plus the road money for the club and the future is bright, any idea when first concert is planned? fat boy slim?
Some stadia are impressive and quite attractive.

This is just meh. A big, silver-clad meh.

And I never think "large logos" are particularly acceptable...

Easy 10 says...
12:14pm Tue 22 Jun 10

cheezburger wrote:
Thats not an image of the stadium, its a mock -up of what the stadium might look like. Artists impressions always make me laugh.
Have you been living in a cave these last few months ? Perhaps you live in Lewes's Cuilfail tunnel. Anyway, when you emerge one day, blinking into the light, you may notice a brand new stadium next to the A27 which was built PRECISELY to what was designed and conveyed in the artists impression, all the way down to the last rivet. Of course if you don't believe me, you could cop a look on the club website at www.seagulls.co.uk and have a look at how it is progressing, on time and exactly to plan.

You know you want to.

Stripes says...
12:29pm Tue 22 Jun 10

"Brighton's American Express Community Stadium unveiled". Err no - the unveiling will be next spring when its finished. Try "Sponsors of Albion's new stadium unveiled".

Seriously - why are the argus reporters so completely hopeless?

stephencrane says...
12:50pm Tue 22 Jun 10

cheezburger wrote:
Thats not an image of the stadium, its a mock -up of what the stadium might look like. Artists impressions always make me laugh.
That's right, Picasso's impression of Arthur Mullard had me in stitches for years.

Wiggsy says...
1:02pm Tue 22 Jun 10

I wonder if Norman Baker will be invited to open the new stadium?!

Sheil says...
1:03pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Why oh why does the Albion have so many KNOCKERS-it's unbelievable!Persona
lly I feel very grateful for Tony Bloom & Amex.Do other clubs suffer with such derrogatory comments I wonder?

Number Six says...
1:12pm Tue 22 Jun 10

I still think it should be called The Council Tip. That is what you associate with seagulls and sh1t, after all

wiltshire seagull says...
1:24pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Sheil wrote:
Why oh why does the Albion have so many KNOCKERS-it's unbelievable!Persona lly I feel very grateful for Tony Bloom & Amex.Do other clubs suffer with such derrogatory comments I wonder?
Sheil, Let's not get started on the "Knockers" thing again, please, lol. Lets all be happy, well BHA supporters anyway that we have a sponsor for our fantastic new stadium. I,m coming down specially next week-end to see it. For so many of us, including you I,m sure, it's a dream come true. I'm going to get very emotional when I see it, my daughter travels to Lewes regularly & says it looks fabulous & she isn't a football fan. Yes, I know I tried to get her into footie but you can't win 'em all, lol. Cant wait to see it.........:-0

Worthingdave says...
1:28pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Strangely ironic that it's the American Express stadium when I couldn't pay for my season ticket using my Amex card!

Everest says...
1:33pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Number Six wrote:
I still think it should be called The Council Tip. That is what you associate with seagulls and sh1t, after all
Living in Sompting, you should know what a tip is like.

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
1:38pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Brilliant news. Looking forward to my going to my first game at The Amex.

stinky pete says...
2:09pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
stinky pete wrote:
"The Argus broke the news last month when it discovered an internet domain name linking the two had been registered."

That's a bit cheeky, I don't think you can take the credit for that.
"The Argus got this news from a popular Albion forum last month when it revealed an internet domain name linking the two had been registered."

There-fixed it for you.
Yeah thats kinda what i was getting at..hence the cheeky comment

tinker000 says...
2:24pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Not much to add here other than hope we dont get any YANKS on the board otherwise we will be at war with one and all.

springy says...
2:33pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Good news that we have such a strong corporate sponsor, and I think the new stadium looks TERRIFIC.

However the artist's impression may be a bit flawed - at least I hope that there will be more people than this around when we play Man City in a couple of years' time. This looks like the crowd for a game with Hartlepool Reserves.

chipmunk77 says...
3:51pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Hillbilly Bob wrote:
Easy 10 wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote: Won't the "large logos" require another planning application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle" in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been "Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger. Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost, and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand resplendent in that scrubby little field. VIVA AMEX
I love this comment. I cannot wait to go to a game in the new stadium. Hoping to get tickets soon.
hahaha, cantankerous old cackbadger! best comment on here so far!

no doubt he'll have to go count all the plug sockets at the stadium just like he did at the Jubilee library!

security words: moany-to$$wit!

dogs-ball says...
4:29pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Amex Arena - 'that'll do nicely'! Come on, own up everyone who's old enough to remember Not The Nine O'clock News? Then Pamela Stevenson used to say: 'and would you like to rub my t*ts as well'...!

Christophe Hawtree says...
4:42pm Tue 22 Jun 10

chipmunk77 wrote:
Hillbilly Bob wrote:
Easy 10 wrote:
Christophe
Hawtree
wrote: Won't the "large logos" require another planning
application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a
set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle"
in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been
"Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger.
Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or
hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and
public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost,
and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean
wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand
resplendent in that scrubby little field. VIVA AMEX
I love
this comment. I cannot wait to go to a game in the new stadium. Hoping
to get tickets soon.
hahaha, cantankerous old cackbadger!
best comment on here so far!
no doubt he'll have to go count all the plug sockets at the stadium
just like he did at the Jubilee library!
security words: moany-to$$wit!
The allegation about the sockets was an outright lie by Councillor David Smith for which he was officially reprimanded. I cannot bring myself to speak to him again.

I am right to point out that the stadium is not yet finished. And many a shop front requires planning permission when it is changed. As for the "large logos", one need only cite the case of the Conservatives rejecting the mural which Community Base wanted on its wall by Queen's Road. Will the Conservatives reject the "large logos"?

My original post did not express an opinion about the stadium, but was interpreted that way by the defensive Albion supporters.

tombraider59 says...
4:53pm Tue 22 Jun 10

It's a pile of poo, whichever way you look at it!!!!

davyboy says...
5:11pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
Brilliant news. Looking forward to my going to my first game at The Amex.
me too! it has to have a name, so why not the name of its sponsor. you have the emirates, the galpharm, so what is wrong with the american express community stadium. some people really need to get a life!

Beethoven says...
5:23pm Tue 22 Jun 10

What are folks quibbling over ? This is great News!
To have such a pestigious sponsor, known the world over is a real coup.

Frankly, I would have thought that they would only have been interested in a Premier League club, if at all.
The money will be a help and it is onwards and upwards for The Albion...

mia_uk says...
6:17pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Looks good enough, it's out the way with good transport links. Something to pleased with. 'Amex Arena' deffo the best name suggested. Although a more traditional name which doesn't make us constantly have to refer to a brand would be good too. Falmer or University stadium could be possibilities??

dogs-ball says...
7:28pm Tue 22 Jun 10

davyboy wrote:
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
Brilliant news. Looking forward to my going to my first game at The Amex.
me too! it has to have a name, so why not the name of its sponsor. you have the emirates, the galpharm, so what is wrong with the american express community stadium. some people really need to get a life!
I don't think there is anything wrong with the name essentially, it's just a bit long-winded. Where as The Amex Arena is more catchy and to the point.

Gentleman Jim says...
7:33pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Agree with Beethoven,very surprised that an International Company would put its logo on a First Division Ground

TheInsider says...
7:44pm Tue 22 Jun 10

While I support the stadium, I would rather it had any other name than one which links it with America.
Most people avoid sitting in American bars, hotels and clubs these days for fear of being blown up by terrorist nutters.
The Yanks are about as popular as a fresh dog **** on the beach on a hot day.

Ya wine me UP, 'sta says...
8:44pm Tue 22 Jun 10

how ironic then, that the oil is invading America for a change.......

Morrissey says...
9:47pm Tue 22 Jun 10

It's not a very inspiring name is it? and too heavy handed with the corporate sponsorship logos.
Perhaps a nickname will eventually come up, I can't see fans saying 'Are you going down the American Express community stadium to see the game on Saturday?'

Christophe Hawtree says...
10:01pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Yes, for a decade or more it was announced as the "Falmer Stadium" and now that phrase is airbrushed out. I should not be surprised, though, if in fact that is the way that people refer to it rather than plug American Express.

Meanwhile, on Friday evening I went out to watch the England and Algeria game. Sat behind me was a a fellow who said to somebody else about that dismal game, 'I've seen the Albion play better than that.'

Cap'n Pugwash says...
10:34pm Tue 22 Jun 10

Old Dog wrote:
Should have gone to specsavers! Looks like the Eeyore Eyesore to me!
You really are a one-trick pony aren't you? All you do is moan and trot out cr@ppy one liners that are at best unfunny. If you don't like the stadium-tough sh1t. You're stuck with it Mr Meldrew.

Btn to Vegas says...
1:37am Wed 23 Jun 10

Call it what you like, take the money, say thank you and let them stick whatever logo they want on it. It's not about a name it's about the stadium and it's ours, done deal. Enjoy it whatever they call it.

Plantpot says...
6:34am Wed 23 Jun 10

How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.

Home&AwayBHA says...
7:14am Wed 23 Jun 10

Old Dog wrote:
Should have gone to specsavers! Looks like the Eeyore Eyesore to me!
Oh my sides! It's about time you woke up & started to get used to the place isn't it - or are you determined to remain contorted in bitterness, as you troll about in your wee hovel? The fact is, you lost & we won. UTA!

Security Saying: Old Dog Fails To Learn New Tricks.

Cap'n Pugwash says...
7:59am Wed 23 Jun 10

Plantpot wrote:
How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
My god-even now you people still churn out the same old cr@p and lies don't you?

If it failed the planning enquiry what are they doing building it? Please read this slowly so you might finally understand: The were two Public Enquiries, the 2nd one needed because the first one wasn't conducted properly. Got that now? As for your suggestion that there wasn't public discussion about EVERY aspect of the planning process-shows exactly how ill-informed, bitter and out of touch you pathetic NIMBYs are. Anyway, like tens of thousands of pro-stadium supporters we don't give a sh1t what your prejudiced NIMBY minds think. There IS a stadium nearing completion and you have to learn to live with it.

amexarena says...
8:40am Wed 23 Jun 10

The club must be congratulated on developing a great new stadium - and finding local business funding to support it. The name is dreadful and shows little understanding of how media organisations might work such a name into their reporting. The Amex Arena would have been perfect.
Worrying is the comment that the club won't say how much the deal is worth or how long it is for. This is spin speak for they didn't negotiate as much as they hoped, it is not guaranteed for all that long, and there is probably a get out clause for lack of promotion or, god forbid, relegation. And the delay was no doubt because Amex could not be seen to announce their interest in the stadium when job losses at the company were necessary. But overall let's be gracious and applaud a great new facility which will be a credit to the city.

Plantpot says...
8:55am Wed 23 Jun 10

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Plantpot wrote:
How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
My god-even now you people still churn out the same old cr@p and lies don't you?

If it failed the planning enquiry what are they doing building it? Please read this slowly so you might finally understand: The were two Public Enquiries, the 2nd one needed because the first one wasn't conducted properly. Got that now? As for your suggestion that there wasn't public discussion about EVERY aspect of the planning process-shows exactly how ill-informed, bitter and out of touch you pathetic NIMBYs are. Anyway, like tens of thousands of pro-stadium supporters we don't give a sh1t what your prejudiced NIMBY minds think. There IS a stadium nearing completion and you have to learn to live with it.
I'm afraid that is utter codswallop. The stadium failed the only enquiry held to consider it, and it was managed by two inspectors. The second enquiry was highly irregular, and greeted with great surprise by planning professionals - it had nothing to do with mismanagement whatsoever. It was clearly held because politically the first enquiry reached the wrong conclusion. The Minister used their discretion to ignore their own planning laws. The first planning approval was withdrawn because it was based on the wrong facts - even after months of deliberation.

I do rejoice in one fact though - I will never set foot in the place, like the vast majority of people from B&H.

flashhobbit says...
8:56am Wed 23 Jun 10

Its easy...lets call it....ready.. The 'Norman Baker soundbite arena'

wiltshire seagull says...
8:59am Wed 23 Jun 10

Plantpot wrote:
How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
Oh Dear, yawn, zzzzzzz, for heavens sake, Plankpot or whatever, move on all you Luddites. How many more times are we going to hear the same old tired distorted NIMBY arguements? You LOST, even with all the lies & underhand dodgy arguements-deal with it & move on or even better, move away..........:~(

sparky_2004 says...
9:18am Wed 23 Jun 10

I wonder why "Stadium of Broken Dreams" was removed?

Masterchav says...
9:38am Wed 23 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
chipmunk77 wrote:
Hillbilly Bob wrote:
Easy 10 wrote:
Christophe
Hawtree
wrote: Won't the "large logos" require another planning
application? Especially as the building, which at the moment is just a
set of struts rather than the one in the picture, was meant to "nestle"
in the Downs. Perhaps the sponsor should have been
"Nestlé"...
Oh get over it you cantankerous old cackbadger.
Do you submit a planning application when you paint your house ? Or
hang an England flag out of your window ? The days of planning apps and
public enquiries are OVER. The club and the fans won, the NIMBYS lost,
and the proof is in that "sets of struts"...sorry, perhaps you mean
wonderful gleaming white arches and graceful stands, which now stand
resplendent in that scrubby little field. VIVA AMEX
I love
this comment. I cannot wait to go to a game in the new stadium. Hoping
to get tickets soon.
hahaha, cantankerous old cackbadger!
best comment on here so far!
no doubt he'll have to go count all the plug sockets at the stadium
just like he did at the Jubilee library!
security words: moany-to$$wit!
The allegation about the sockets was an outright lie by Councillor David Smith for which he was officially reprimanded. I cannot bring myself to speak to him again.

I am right to point out that the stadium is not yet finished. And many a shop front requires planning permission when it is changed. As for the "large logos", one need only cite the case of the Conservatives rejecting the mural which Community Base wanted on its wall by Queen's Road. Will the Conservatives reject the "large logos"?

My original post did not express an opinion about the stadium, but was interpreted that way by the defensive Albion supporters.
"The allegation about the sockets was an outright lie by Councillor David Smith".

Strange that your own letter of 27th September 2009 said:

"He tries to portray me as somehow peculiar for counting “all” the electric sockets in the building.

He deems that a time-consuming task.

What in fact I had done was count the hundreds laid out most oddly across its ground floor.

That is a simple, quick matter of counting them along one side and then the other, and multiplying them.

I suggest parents encourage their children to do so while visiting the Library in case they have not learnt this simple technique at school."

Christophe Hawtree says...
10:16am Wed 23 Jun 10

Exactly. That was thirty seconds' work. And the point is: why are there all those sockets in the floor when, as a recent report states, the overwhelming public concern is that there should be more books and shelves.

Councillor David Smith is also, of course, notorious for declaring, in reply to a Question about, er, music libraries, that he wishes he could challenge me to a duel. I do not know if this might liven up the opening match at whatever the stadium gets called.

Masterchav says...
10:21am Wed 23 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Exactly. That was thirty seconds' work. And the point is: why are there all those sockets in the floor when, as a recent report states, the overwhelming public concern is that there should be more books and shelves.

Councillor David Smith is also, of course, notorious for declaring, in reply to a Question about, er, music libraries, that he wishes he could challenge me to a duel. I do not know if this might liven up the opening match at whatever the stadium gets called.
So you DID count them then?

Baldseagull says...
10:28am Wed 23 Jun 10

Beethoven wrote:
What are folks quibbling over ? This is great News!
To have such a pestigious sponsor, known the world over is a real coup.

Frankly, I would have thought that they would only have been interested in a Premier League club, if at all.
The money will be a help and it is onwards and upwards for The Albion...
If the deal lasts 5 years they will have their name on a Premier League club Stadium.

Baldseagull says...
10:49am Wed 23 Jun 10

Plantpot wrote:
How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
How about the 'Nimby's failed Stadium' or ' The Triumph Over Parochiality Stadium'.

As you point out, the Stadium sits on land covered by more than one local authority, but only one was against it.
The bizzare thing is that LDC and its borough residents will benefit greatly from it.

Baldseagull says...
10:49am Wed 23 Jun 10

Plantpot wrote:
How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
How about the 'Nimby's failed Stadium' or ' The Triumph Over Parochiality Stadium'.

As you point out, the Stadium sits on land covered by more than one local authority, but only one was against it.
The bizzare thing is that LDC and its borough residents will benefit greatly from it.

Christophe Hawtree says...
12:28pm Wed 23 Jun 10

Masterchav wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Exactly. That was thirty seconds' work. And the point is: why are there
all those sockets in the floor when, as a recent report states, the
overwhelming public concern is that there should be more books and
shelves.
Councillor David Smith is also, of course, notorious for declaring, in
reply to a Question about, er, music libraries, that he wishes he could
challenge me to a duel. I do not know if this might liven up the
opening match at whatever the stadium gets called.
So you
DID count them then?
The way in which Councillor David Smith wrote his letter was deliberately to give readers the impression I had gone round and counted every socket in the building rather than point to that mysterious floorbound set of hundreds of sockets. And for that he was officially reprimanded. He seems to live in a rage.

Masterchav says...
1:10pm Wed 23 Jun 10

Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Masterchav wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Exactly. That was thirty seconds' work. And the point is: why are there
all those sockets in the floor when, as a recent report states, the
overwhelming public concern is that there should be more books and
shelves.
Councillor David Smith is also, of course, notorious for declaring, in
reply to a Question about, er, music libraries, that he wishes he could
challenge me to a duel. I do not know if this might liven up the
opening match at whatever the stadium gets called.
So you
DID count them then?
The way in which Councillor David Smith wrote his letter was deliberately to give readers the impression I had gone round and counted every socket in the building rather than point to that mysterious floorbound set of hundreds of sockets. And for that he was officially reprimanded. He seems to live in a rage.
David Smith living in a rage?

At least he doesn't make regular, irrelevant and personal attacks on Councillors in the Argus.

Christophe Hawtree says...
1:49pm Wed 23 Jun 10

Masterchav wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Masterchav wrote:
Christophe Hawtree wrote:
Exactly. That was thirty seconds' work. And the point is: why are there
all those sockets in the floor when, as a recent report states, the
overwhelming public concern is that there should be more books and
shelves.
Councillor David Smith is also, of course, notorious for declaring, in
reply to a Question about, er, music libraries, that he wishes he could
challenge me to a duel. I do not know if this might liven up the
opening match at whatever the stadium gets called.
So you
DID count them then?
The way in which Councillor David Smith
wrote his letter was deliberately to give readers the impression I had
gone round and counted every socket in the building rather than point
to that mysterious floorbound set of hundreds of sockets. And for that
he was officially reprimanded. He seems to live in a
rage.
David Smith living in a rage? At least he doesn't make
regular, irrelevant and personal attacks on Councillors in the Argus.
But you brought up the subject of the sockets, not me, and so I simply set out the background to that, which was all Councillor Smith's doing. Had he not done so, then he would not have had to live with it, and the official reprimand for it. He was the one that made personal attacks.

thewhitedog says...
6:03pm Wed 23 Jun 10

Of course, The Dripping Pan was built by William de Warenne, making it not only the only Norman football ground in England, but in the entire world.

Anfield, 'Old' Trafford, the amex whateveritis, you've got a long way to go to catch up with the mighty Rooks!

taes84 says...
4:07pm Fri 25 Jun 10

Plantpot wrote:
Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
Plantpot wrote: How about the "Failed the planning enquiry but sits in three Labour marginals" stadium? Or the "What persuaded the Minister to give permission that wasn't discussed in public at the enquiry?" arena. Or even the "Why weren't LDC allowed to have jurisdiction over their own land?" ground.
My god-even now you people still churn out the same old cr@p and lies don't you? If it failed the planning enquiry what are they doing building it? Please read this slowly so you might finally understand: The were two Public Enquiries, the 2nd one needed because the first one wasn't conducted properly. Got that now? As for your suggestion that there wasn't public discussion about EVERY aspect of the planning process-shows exactly how ill-informed, bitter and out of touch you pathetic NIMBYs are. Anyway, like tens of thousands of pro-stadium supporters we don't give a sh1t what your prejudiced NIMBY minds think. There IS a stadium nearing completion and you have to learn to live with it.
I'm afraid that is utter codswallop. The stadium failed the only enquiry held to consider it, and it was managed by two inspectors. The second enquiry was highly irregular, and greeted with great surprise by planning professionals - it had nothing to do with mismanagement whatsoever. It was clearly held because politically the first enquiry reached the wrong conclusion. The Minister used their discretion to ignore their own planning laws. The first planning approval was withdrawn because it was based on the wrong facts - even after months of deliberation. I do rejoice in one fact though - I will never set foot in the place, like the vast majority of people from B&H.
You can rejoice all you want......... the fact that the majority of people in B&H won't go there is because it will be sold to capacity week in week out.........

As everyone else has said, Get over it......... you lost, its nearly built...... accept it, or go and bore someone who cares (HOLD ON, NO ONE!!!!) with you same mono-tone broken record storys.

Why not praise the commitment and dedication from the supporters and club for making the ground possible.......... A petition delivered to downing street, a vote at the election..... Brighton deserve a venue of such magnitude...... go and bore the other t*ats sat on the garden in Lewes Road!!

bigcatdetective says...
1:38pm Sun 27 Jun 10

It will bankrupt the club and be sold off for housing in 10 years.What a waste....

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