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Police will patrol Hove in barbeque crackdown
2:40pm Saturday 17th July 2010
Police will patrol the seafront in a crackdown on rogue barbeques.
The move comes after a residents’ association counted 200 scorch marks on Hove Lawns from people using disposable barbecues.
Brighton and Hove City Council, who has already installed Australian-style barbeque stands in Preston Park, have also vowed to discuss options for the area.
Bill Cowell, East Brunswick Residents' Association (EBRA) chairman, said the “destruction” caused by alfresco cooking on Hove Lawns had prompted them to launch an e-petition urging both the council and the police to enforce a bylaw banning barbeques.
He said: “We are not killjoys and we don't want to stop people having barbecues. But we have counted 200 great black scorch marks already and it's only July.
He added: “It takes a year for the grass to grow back and reseeding costs thousands.”
Mr Cowell said the EBRA had also received complaints from residents about breathing in the smoke from the barbecues.
A spokeswoman for Brighton and Hove City Council said: “Barbecues are not permitted on Hove Lawns and people are given advice and information by the council’s seafront staff about where they can barbecue - which is on certain beaches after 6pm.
“We will be looking into the concerns raised in the petition and Councillor Geoffrey Theobald, the council’s cabinet member for environment, will be responding at his next meeting on July 26.”
A spokeswoman for Sussex Police said: “Local PCSOs have been made aware of this issue via the Brunswick and Adelaide local action team meeting. Sussex Police are now working with Brighton and Hove City Council's seafront officers to conduct days of actions and joint patrols of Hove lawns to assist the council with making sure people follow the appropriate advice when barbecuing. One day of action has already taken place and more are planned throughout the summer months.”
The e-petition has now closed and is due to be sent to the council within the next few days.
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pperrin, says...
3:17pm Sat 17 Jul 10
But for a policy change to be based on BBQ's !
How much to police patrols cost compared to re grassing?
Or even supplying disposable BBQ stands?
jiving, says...
3:29pm Sat 17 Jul 10
Christophe Hawtree, Hove says...
3:33pm Sat 17 Jul 10
The Council should designate certain beaches as "Salad Beaches".
ronrostog, brighton says...
3:46pm Sat 17 Jul 10
bug eye, hove says...
4:36pm Sat 17 Jul 10
Real Brightonian, Hove says...
4:54pm Sat 17 Jul 10
freddo, Brighton says...
5:07pm Sat 17 Jul 10
Angryoldman, says...
5:10pm Sat 17 Jul 10
How I love barbecue's
Greenlover, Greenland says...
6:13pm Sat 17 Jul 10
icansee, brighton says...
6:15pm Sat 17 Jul 10
how about a take away and some drink etc?.
try it on a saturday night after a very hot day and witness!
chipmunk77, Btn says...
6:26pm Sat 17 Jul 10
Can't the Police catch muggers, rapists, burglars, muderers, instead of catching the odd sausage muncher on the seafront! pun intended! lol.
I think they have better things to do, unlike some!
How about this for a wacky idea, provide some proper bbq areas on Hove Lawns like other modern cities do... oh no, heritage heritage, think of the children, blah blah blah, get a life moaners!
security words: huge-bangers
icansee, brighton says...
6:31pm Sat 17 Jul 10
i have many good times down there ..as cool as anywhere else I have been.
icansee, brighton says...
6:38pm Sat 17 Jul 10
I haven't seen much crime there in years, especially in the summer when its packed.
its a beautiful spot and a nice lifestyle!
Living in the real world, Brighton says...
8:26pm Sat 17 Jul 10
The only problem is the council want a way of making money from this and the "locals" DO NOT OWN THE LAND so they hve NO right to dictate what we do on it. They can post their e-petition up the councils e-rear.
Cunning Stunt, Hove says...
8:31pm Sat 17 Jul 10
But NO! lets take a stroll along the prom prom prom...
pun master, Hove says...
10:23pm Sat 17 Jul 10
saveHOVE, Hove says...
11:33pm Sat 17 Jul 10
Do it on the stones on the beach! It is just plonking obvious that burning lawns is gross and cretinous behaviour and unnecessary. I hope the police hoover in a fortune in fines getting these drones for what they do not accept is CRIMINAL DAMAGE!
It they were animal rights people they would have the cameras out! Why not for these hooligans too?
TheInsider, Brighton says...
12:23am Sun 18 Jul 10
I contacted my community copper about an issue affecting residents in my street and I got a half baked resposne which basically accepted a crime was being committed but said the police would do nothing about it.
I feel utterly depressed by Sussex Police.
Cunning Stunt, Hove says...
1:00am Sun 18 Jul 10
TheInsider wrote:Depressed by Sussex Police!...You will get over it... and in time.. come to view them the way most long term residents, and the other surrounding Police Forces view them... As completely useless.
How come the people of Hove can manage to get the police to work for them?
I contacted my community copper about an issue affecting residents in my street and I got a half baked resposne which basically accepted a crime was being committed but said the police would do nothing about it.
I feel utterly depressed by Sussex Police.
Do not depend or trust them and you can rest assured that your chances of being apprehended should you transgress are a lot less than minimal. Unless of course, you are one of the BBQ Gang or a Motorist... in which case...LOOK OUT!
Gazza, Sussex says...
2:42am Sun 18 Jul 10
icansee, brighton says...
6:18am Sun 18 Jul 10
saveHOVE wrote:a few times a year and every year the advice given is not to have a bbq on the stones ..the stones stay hot and dangerous even the next day?.
I recommend the police book some time along the Hove Lawns this Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evenings - we have 34 degrees centigrade coming on those 3 days....and people will light up a fire in a barbecue to make it even hotter and so they can pretend they are having a really good time while they breathe in the carcinogenic fumes and eat the carcinogenic burnt offerings and sit cross-legged on a lawn, chilling with a beer or a bottle of wine. Do it on the stones on the beach! It is just plonking obvious that burning lawns is gross and cretinous behaviour and unnecessary. I hope the police hoover in a fortune in fines getting these drones for what they do not accept is CRIMINAL DAMAGE! It they were animal rights people they would have the cameras out! Why not for these hooligans too?
the police have booked some time this summer on Hove Lawns and so have I because its a very desirable place to be.
how about da authorities book some time this summer where there are problems with crime, like in some of the huge rubbish estates?.
Hove lawns and Brunswick is a lifestyle choice that creates less problems with crime than other areas.
Gubbins, says...
6:52am Sun 18 Jul 10
stan bailey, brighton says...
7:51am Sun 18 Jul 10
Greenlover wrote:i thought I was the only person on earth, who dislikes sitting in my garden on a summers evening and finds the stench of charred food and cheap sauces unacceptable
filthy things which damage the air think they should all be banned even in ur garden when it comes to saving the planet anything bad should go
davyboy, abingdon, oxon says...
7:59am Sun 18 Jul 10
Gubbins wrote:agreed, although there are many by-laws which are continually broken. especially the one about cycling on the promenade!!! if the dreaded PCSO's are about, then they really want to ensure ALL the by-laws are kept to. no barbeques, no cycling and keeping dogs on leads, to name just 3.
It's a bylaw, why not try sticking to it ? What a nothing story.
Kit Napier, Hove says...
8:27am Sun 18 Jul 10
Music Lover, brighton says...
10:51am Sun 18 Jul 10
Shame that they cant clean up West Street rather than charcoal.
mtmoocher, Brighton says...
11:40am Sun 18 Jul 10
Greenlover wrote:Although I think the Police are ineffective, I wouldn't go that far!
filthy things which damage the air think they should all be banned even in ur garden when it comes to saving the planet anything bad should go
Cunning Stunt, Hove says...
11:51am Sun 18 Jul 10
mtmoocher wrote:Excellent!
Greenlover wrote:Although I think the Police are ineffective, I wouldn't go that far!
filthy things which damage the air think they should all be banned even in ur garden when it comes to saving the planet anything bad should go
PeteBrighton, Brighton says...
12:51pm Sun 18 Jul 10
Cunning Stunt, Hove says...
4:06pm Sun 18 Jul 10
Scorched Earth Policy was working well at 1.00 pm today Sunday 18th BBQ's smoking away ... Perhaps the Police had left their Protective Vests at home...as one Officer had badly singed his eyebrows in a similar incident 10 years ago....
sussexram40, BN21 says...
7:02pm Sun 18 Jul 10
Also in the report it says, "Brighton and Hove City Council, WHO has already installed Australian-style barbeque ..". Shouldn't that be 'which'?
SugarTits, Sussex says...
10:15am Mon 19 Jul 10
Leave it until October then clean it up again ready for next year.
And why the police? What are seafront patrol for if not this?
bertnz, brighton says...
9:48pm Mon 19 Jul 10
monkey-moo, brighton says...
9:50am Tue 20 Jul 10
My point?
Well, the sad old loners of EBRA wanted to ban us from playing there and got the council, Police, and the Argus involved. They claimed it was organised games, that we were charging people to play, and that there were fights, drinking and drug taking! All of this was lies, and we invited the council, the Argus and the police to turn up randomly and see for themselves. Not one of them took up this offer!
It seems again that the NIMBY people of Brunswick want to install their lonely, life hating beliefs on others.
The seafront belongs to us all, we should respect each other, and that goes both ways. If having a bar-b-q, do it sensibly and leave no mess or hot coals or scorch marks. If sitting in your flat looking out to sea, then try and enjoy the different aromas of flame grilled cooking!
code word: one-planet
EBRA, Brunswick Town says...
11:35am Thu 22 Jul 10
EBRA
hoveboy, hove says...
12:43pm Thu 22 Jul 10
monkey-moo, brighton says...
7:02am Fri 23 Jul 10
So, forgive me getting the name wrong...but it is the same people doing the same thing...AGAIN.
roast, Brighton says...
12:36pm Fri 23 Jul 10
Greenlover wrote:Banning BBQs in people’s own garden is the most ludicrous comment I have ever seen on here.
filthy things which damage the air think they should all be banned even in ur garden when it comes to saving the planet anything bad should go
Followed closely by getting rid of all things bad for the planet
Please, let us all know what Planet you are from?
ssilkystone, brighton says...
2:23pm Fri 23 Jul 10
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voiceofthescoombe, brighton says...
2:52pm Sat 17 Jul 10
but to be serious not really a police matter. unfortunatly hove lawns is not for barbequing on a certai people have no respect for anyone else