Nationalist march brings Brighton to a standstill

The Argus: Nationalist march brings Brighton to a standstill Nationalist march brings Brighton to a standstill

UPDATED: Fourteen people were arrested and two police officers were injured today when anti-fascist campaigners protested against a nationalist march, according to police.

A Sussex Police spokesman said that the 250 protesters were kept apart by police but members of Unite Against Fascism (UAF) clashed with police.

A total of 14 arrests were made for public order offences, assault and to prevent a breach of the peace.

Click here for pictures of the march and protest.

Click on play below to replay the liveblog, which has detailed coverage of this afternoon's events.

The English Nationalist Alliance gathered at 12.30pm outside Brighton station before marching through the North Laine to Victoria Gardens.

After a short stay, they then marched back to the station and disbanded.

Two police officers sustained minor injuries and received medical attention.

One protester also received injuries, for which they received treatment and for which two people have been arrested, the spokesman said.

The spokesman added: "Using powers authorised by the chief constable, police attempted to ensure that both protests took place in a safe location but close enough to one another to enable them to make their points peacefully.

"Unfortunately a small group from the counter-demonstration resisted this and threw missiles at the police.

"At no time did either group have the opportunity to physically confront one another, the only disorder being directed towards the police."

Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett added: "The right to peaceful protest is an important part of Brighton and Hove life.

"It is our aim to allow protesters the freedom of speech to express their views safely, without causing disruption and disorder to residents, visitors and businesses in the city.

"I again urge those who wish to hold demonstrations in the city to abide by the law and notify the police of their plans in advance, so we can jointly plan a safe and visible event that respects others' rights to go about their business free from intimidation and violence."

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11:18am Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Me and the missus were going into town for some shopping and a nice lunch but we will now head out of town to spend our cash elsewhere. After looking at the photos of the beer bellied blokes involved in the march up north doesn't instill much confidence that town will be a pleasant place to be today.
Bring on the gays and their carnival any day.
Me and the missus were going into town for some shopping and a nice lunch but we will now head out of town to spend our cash elsewhere. After looking at the photos of the beer bellied blokes involved in the march up north doesn't instill much confidence that town will be a pleasant place to be today. Bring on the gays and their carnival any day. TheInsider

12:10pm Mon 30 Aug 10

LarryTaylor says...

It'll be illegal to be English in England soon.

From France and Pretender
Great Britain defend her,
Foes let them fall;
From foreign slavery,
Priests and their knavery,
And Popish Reverie,
God save us all.
It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all. LarryTaylor

1:01pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

It should just be illegal to be common and rough.
I am off to take part in a very English tradition of sinking several Bank Holiday pints.
I have done a bit of DIY, asked the wife to stop nagging me, watched some dreadful telly and cleaned the car.
Surely that's English enough.
It should just be illegal to be common and rough. I am off to take part in a very English tradition of sinking several Bank Holiday pints. I have done a bit of DIY, asked the wife to stop nagging me, watched some dreadful telly and cleaned the car. Surely that's English enough. TheInsider

1:02pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Good Grief. if Betty Blue and sdthetruth are representative of Brightonians then I guess its true, there is no hope for this town. It has gone to the dogs.


I think Larry Taylor is just someone's idea of satire, it made me laugh anyway Smiley D.
Good Grief. if Betty Blue and sdthetruth are representative of Brightonians then I guess its true, there is no hope for this town. It has gone to the dogs. I think Larry Taylor is just someone's idea of satire, it made me laugh anyway Smiley D. Surely not!

1:02pm Mon 30 Aug 10

LarryTaylor says...

SmileyD wrote:
LarryTaylor wrote: It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all.
'France & Pretender'? 'Popish Reverie'? I think you'll find this is the 21st century not the 18th - you tw@t.
Would you prefer a mosque on every corner of our green and pleasant land?
[quote][p][bold]SmileyD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LarryTaylor[/bold] wrote: It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all.[/p][/quote]'France & Pretender'? 'Popish Reverie'? I think you'll find this is the 21st century not the 18th - you tw@t.[/p][/quote]Would you prefer a mosque on every corner of our green and pleasant land? LarryTaylor

4:27pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Does this mean 30 people turned up for the march?
Does this mean 30 people turned up for the march? Surely not!

4:30pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea?

Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents.
Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea? Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents. iceman00

4:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Mr Numptyhead says...

Surely not! wrote:
Does this mean 30 people turned up for the march?
I think you are stretching it a bit to call them people... based on intelligence levels they appeared sub-human at best. They didn't exactly make me proud to be english, particularly when nazi-saluting their way home.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: Does this mean 30 people turned up for the march?[/p][/quote]I think you are stretching it a bit to call them people... based on intelligence levels they appeared sub-human at best. They didn't exactly make me proud to be english, particularly when nazi-saluting their way home. Mr Numptyhead

4:42pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Right, as a council estate dweller with all my teeth, I have to take issue with your analysis iceman.

Mr Numptyhead the definition of human is not based on intelligence, now who was it that described people as subhuman...of course ..the nazis.
Right, as a council estate dweller with all my teeth, I have to take issue with your analysis iceman. Mr Numptyhead the definition of human is not based on intelligence, now who was it that described people as subhuman...of course ..the nazis. Surely not!

4:46pm Mon 30 Aug 10

victor meldew says...

LarryTaylor wrote:
It'll be illegal to be English in England soon.

From France and Pretender
Great Britain defend her,
Foes let them fall;
From foreign slavery,
Priests and their knavery,
And Popish Reverie,
God save us all.
What stone did you crawl under from Larry? Open up your gene pool for god's sake. Ye'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]LarryTaylor[/bold] wrote: It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all.[/p][/quote]What stone did you crawl under from Larry? Open up your gene pool for god's sake. Ye'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. victor meldew

4:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Metro Reader says...

WELL DONE ARGUS! Managed to kill Brighton again by your over sensationalist report.

My partner and I have just get back from Brighton centre and noticed nothing at all going on.

How many people have you put off coming to the city on the last public holiday of the year? You should bow your heads in shame.
WELL DONE ARGUS! Managed to kill Brighton again by your over sensationalist report. My partner and I have just get back from Brighton centre and noticed nothing at all going on. How many people have you put off coming to the city on the last public holiday of the year? You should bow your heads in shame. Metro Reader

4:58pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lin04 says...

iceman00 wrote:
Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea?

Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents.
Your comment " cousins for parents".
channel 4 Dispatches revealed..
The practice is most common in Britain's Pakistani community, in which more than 50% of people marry their first cousin, and in Bradford 75% of ethnic Pakistanis follow the tradition.
Not a very good idea is it . no wonder people protest against it.
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea? Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents.[/p][/quote]Your comment " cousins for parents". channel 4 Dispatches revealed.. The practice is most common in Britain's Pakistani community, in which more than 50% of people marry their first cousin, and in Bradford 75% of ethnic Pakistanis follow the tradition. Not a very good idea is it . no wonder people protest against it. Lin04

4:58pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country?

Is patriotism now a crime?

I missed the memo.
Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country? Is patriotism now a crime? I missed the memo. Kahuna

4:58pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

If you've got all your teeth then fair play.
These lot didn't tho!
If you've got all your teeth then fair play. These lot didn't tho! iceman00

5:01pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lin04 says...

There are now many other countries that have been ethnic cleansing and killing thousands of people
for many many years .. since germany and the war..
and calling people subhuman...of course ..not just the nazis.
There are now many other countries that have been ethnic cleansing and killing thousands of people for many many years .. since germany and the war.. and calling people subhuman...of course ..not just the nazis. Lin04

5:02pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

Urgh cousins for parents. If it is white British, Pakistani or other it's just wrong!
They really were some pretty nasty looking people protesting for them tho. full on nazi tattoos and all. that is NOT patriotism.
Urgh cousins for parents. If it is white British, Pakistani or other it's just wrong! They really were some pretty nasty looking people protesting for them tho. full on nazi tattoos and all. that is NOT patriotism. iceman00

5:06pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Are there any pictures of these 'full on nazi tattoos'?

I've not seen any.

It looks to me that some fascists decided to try to stop people from a patriotic march.

What a terrible shame.

Our freedoms are being eroded on a daily basis.
Are there any pictures of these 'full on nazi tattoos'? I've not seen any. It looks to me that some fascists decided to try to stop people from a patriotic march. What a terrible shame. Our freedoms are being eroded on a daily basis. Kahuna

5:19pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

There will be pictures of them. Don't you worry Kahuna.
Do agree with their chant "muhammed is a peado"? idiot.
There will be pictures of them. Don't you worry Kahuna. Do agree with their chant "muhammed is a peado"? idiot. iceman00

5:20pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...
the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen... garyscott

5:29pm Mon 30 Aug 10

true-brightonian says...

garyscott wrote:
the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...
Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...[/p][/quote]Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them. true-brightonian

5:30pm Mon 30 Aug 10

dixie normous says...

so 30 protesters, and 100 anti protesters, brought the town to a standstill. how pathetic is that. ive seen more than that down london road queing up for the next bit of smack. it makes the guerilla gardens saga, look like the battle of agincourt.
so 30 protesters, and 100 anti protesters, brought the town to a standstill. how pathetic is that. ive seen more than that down london road queing up for the next bit of smack. it makes the guerilla gardens saga, look like the battle of agincourt. dixie normous

5:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

cramp23 says...

100 counter protesters?? there was at least 300 against just 30 braindead idiots- as they marched through the streets all of Brighton turned on them, they looked a pathetic sad sight and doubt they will come back. Maybe they will now realise that people in Brighton dont want there backwards fascist crap
100 counter protesters?? there was at least 300 against just 30 braindead idiots- as they marched through the streets all of Brighton turned on them, they looked a pathetic sad sight and doubt they will come back. Maybe they will now realise that people in Brighton dont want there backwards fascist crap cramp23

5:34pm Mon 30 Aug 10

RickH says...

LarryTaylor wrote:
SmileyD wrote:
LarryTaylor wrote: It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all.
'France & Pretender'? 'Popish Reverie'? I think you'll find this is the 21st century not the 18th - you tw@t.
Would you prefer a mosque on every corner of our green and pleasant land?
Not sure that'll ever happen; but what I would prefer is an honest debate about immigration without kneejerk and reductionsit statements like that. I'm ever hopeful!
[quote][p][bold]LarryTaylor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SmileyD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LarryTaylor[/bold] wrote: It'll be illegal to be English in England soon. From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her, Foes let them fall; From foreign slavery, Priests and their knavery, And Popish Reverie, God save us all.[/p][/quote]'France & Pretender'? 'Popish Reverie'? I think you'll find this is the 21st century not the 18th - you tw@t.[/p][/quote]Would you prefer a mosque on every corner of our green and pleasant land?[/p][/quote]Not sure that'll ever happen; but what I would prefer is an honest debate about immigration without kneejerk and reductionsit statements like that. I'm ever hopeful! RickH

5:36pm Mon 30 Aug 10

chrisbrighton says...

Good to see that the fascists had such a small turnout for their little parade today. Sad however to see any fascists on the steets on Brighton, a City that is rightfully prides itself on its reputation for diversity
Good to see that the fascists had such a small turnout for their little parade today. Sad however to see any fascists on the steets on Brighton, a City that is rightfully prides itself on its reputation for diversity chrisbrighton

5:37pm Mon 30 Aug 10

rpdutt says...

Altrincham, Kahuna? Remind me where in Sussex that is....
Altrincham, Kahuna? Remind me where in Sussex that is.... rpdutt

5:42pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lunchtime O'Booze says...

Seagulls Fans show their true Colours....
Seagulls Fans show their true Colours.... Lunchtime O'Booze

5:42pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Ontariogull says...

As a Brighton and Hove Albion supporter for over 50 years I deplore the use of club's name in today's march. The banner on show clearly did not have the permission of the club and given how few were on the march was totally rejected by the majority of supporters. Over the years the club has done much to succesfully drive out racism and bigotry. Nobody should pretend that the club's supporters share the aims of the marchers. Today was not in my name!
As a Brighton and Hove Albion supporter for over 50 years I deplore the use of club's name in today's march. The banner on show clearly did not have the permission of the club and given how few were on the march was totally rejected by the majority of supporters. Over the years the club has done much to succesfully drive out racism and bigotry. Nobody should pretend that the club's supporters share the aims of the marchers. Today was not in my name! Ontariogull

5:44pm Mon 30 Aug 10

als40 says...

Patriotic march? The ENA/EDL who came to Brighton are fascists and they have committed many crimes. Today alone the EDL thugs smashed up the Great Eastern Pub. They are more than petty criminals though, they are also vile racists. In Dudley the EDL, who claim to be against Muslim extremism, tried to attack an ordinary mosque full of ordinary peaceful Britons. When they failed to do so the decided to combat muslim extremism by... smashing a Hindu temple. They are not out to stop extremism or terrorists, because they are the only extremists in Brighton and intent on harming non-white inhabitants of our town. And patriotic? What could be more British than these patriots giving the salute of... Nazi Germany?
Patriotic march? The ENA/EDL who came to Brighton are fascists and they have committed many crimes. Today alone the EDL thugs smashed up the Great Eastern Pub. They are more than petty criminals though, they are also vile racists. In Dudley the EDL, who claim to be against Muslim extremism, tried to attack an ordinary mosque full of ordinary peaceful Britons. When they failed to do so the decided to combat muslim extremism by... smashing a Hindu temple. They are not out to stop extremism or terrorists, because they are the only extremists in Brighton and intent on harming non-white inhabitants of our town. And patriotic? What could be more British than these patriots giving the salute of... Nazi Germany? als40

5:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a DUCK!!
Despite the NAZIS attempt to advertise their Asbo/Chav alliance march as for England and the British, people have again seen it as a bunch of idiots. To every person on this comments section, who are moaning about anti protesters, and claiming that people are stopping you from being British, or accessing your English heritage, I would like to remind you that the NAZI salute given by the Asbo/Chav marchers as they left the city is not English, its not British, but you ARE NAZI sympathisers. Be real about it, and be true to yourselves, and stop tryings to hide your fascist leanings and your fear, and getting all weepy over a loss of your heritage.
If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a DUCK!! Despite the NAZIS attempt to advertise their Asbo/Chav alliance march as for England and the British, people have again seen it as a bunch of idiots. To every person on this comments section, who are moaning about anti protesters, and claiming that people are stopping you from being British, or accessing your English heritage, I would like to remind you that the NAZI salute given by the Asbo/Chav marchers as they left the city is not English, its not British, but you ARE NAZI sympathisers. Be real about it, and be true to yourselves, and stop tryings to hide your fascist leanings and your fear, and getting all weepy over a loss of your heritage. daveinprague

5:50pm Mon 30 Aug 10

dolphy says...

What a pathetic bunch. They only managed 30? Wake up and smell the glue. It would be funny to send them off to a war zone, or stick em in a jungle. Great reality tv show.
What a pathetic bunch. They only managed 30? Wake up and smell the glue. It would be funny to send them off to a war zone, or stick em in a jungle. Great reality tv show. dolphy

5:52pm Mon 30 Aug 10

MantaRay1 says...

Another example of why the right to protest rules need changing. Why should this rabble be allowed to disrupt the city for normal law abiding citizens who have come to enjoy themselves? The police should have the power to disperse counter protestors, at the very least.

Well done Sussex Police for keeping that lot under control.
Another example of why the right to protest rules need changing. Why should this rabble be allowed to disrupt the city for normal law abiding citizens who have come to enjoy themselves? The police should have the power to disperse counter protestors, at the very least. Well done Sussex Police for keeping that lot under control. MantaRay1

5:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

pearlygrey says...

iceman00 wrote:
Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea?

Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents.
You need to get a dictionary and look up the word 'prejudice', my love.

Much as I applaud your anti-fascist sentiments (as the Victorians applauded a chimp riding a bicycle) you are clearly out of your intellectual depth in this debate.
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: Man Larry Taylor you are pure scum. There's always a place for you in North Korea? Your protest today was 30 toothless council estate dwellers with cousins for parents.[/p][/quote]You need to get a dictionary and look up the word 'prejudice', my love. Much as I applaud your anti-fascist sentiments (as the Victorians applauded a chimp riding a bicycle) you are clearly out of your intellectual depth in this debate. pearlygrey

5:56pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Altrincham isn't in Sussex, silly.

Freedoms of my countrymen being compromised concerns me greatly though.
Altrincham isn't in Sussex, silly. Freedoms of my countrymen being compromised concerns me greatly though. Kahuna

6:01pm Mon 30 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

i've nothing against being english, i'm proud to be myself, and nothing against having a st georges day parade, the irish have their family fun-filled st patricks day so why not? trouble is it always seems to be an excuse for a bunch of nazi's to parade around and try to offend as many people as possible which is nothing to do with englishness at all. a great many of our english countrymen have died fighting this sort of facism. they should have had a scumbag alliance parade instead.
i've nothing against being english, i'm proud to be myself, and nothing against having a st georges day parade, the irish have their family fun-filled st patricks day so why not? trouble is it always seems to be an excuse for a bunch of nazi's to parade around and try to offend as many people as possible which is nothing to do with englishness at all. a great many of our english countrymen have died fighting this sort of facism. they should have had a scumbag alliance parade instead. george 3rd

6:04pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

What were you offended by?

Try not to be so sensitive and let people celebrate their country if they so wish.

WE have more to celebrate than any land on the planet so it's understandable that Englishmen will want to do so.

Stop being such a fascist.
What were you offended by? Try not to be so sensitive and let people celebrate their country if they so wish. WE have more to celebrate than any land on the planet so it's understandable that Englishmen will want to do so. Stop being such a fascist. Kahuna

6:12pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

yes kahuna, that nazi salute is very respectful to English people who died in their tens of thousands to the nazis. Stop being such a tit.
yes kahuna, that nazi salute is very respectful to English people who died in their tens of thousands to the nazis. Stop being such a tit. daveinprague

6:14pm Mon 30 Aug 10

cramp23 says...

Kahuna wrote:
What were you offended by? Try not to be so sensitive and let people celebrate their country if they so wish. WE have more to celebrate than any land on the planet so it's understandable that Englishmen will want to do so. Stop being such a fascist.
Are you stupid?? so you want to celebrate nazi salutes, racist chanting and a group of inbreds who want to stop the city of Brighton being what it is, a place of diversity, you obviously dont live here or didnt see the sad parade
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: What were you offended by? Try not to be so sensitive and let people celebrate their country if they so wish. WE have more to celebrate than any land on the planet so it's understandable that Englishmen will want to do so. Stop being such a fascist.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid?? so you want to celebrate nazi salutes, racist chanting and a group of inbreds who want to stop the city of Brighton being what it is, a place of diversity, you obviously dont live here or didnt see the sad parade cramp23

6:15pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Why are NAZIS scared of being labelled NAZIS, when publically employing NAZI salutes?
I mean, on a scale of 1-10, just how stupid is that stance?
Why are NAZIS scared of being labelled NAZIS, when publically employing NAZI salutes? I mean, on a scale of 1-10, just how stupid is that stance? daveinprague

6:20pm Mon 30 Aug 10

cramp23 says...

Anyone who defends these 30 idiots who marched today really are anti-British themselves as i see it, no-one on the whole streets of Brighton wanted them there, every corner they turned they were met with people either shouting abuse at them or taking the **** out of them, really an embarrasment,nothing more
Anyone who defends these 30 idiots who marched today really are anti-British themselves as i see it, no-one on the whole streets of Brighton wanted them there, every corner they turned they were met with people either shouting abuse at them or taking the **** out of them, really an embarrasment,nothing more cramp23

6:25pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Overweight. Terrible oral hygiene. Dirty scruffy clothes. Black rings under their eyes. What on earth happened to the English. They have gone to the dogs. My grandad fought in the war and would be ashamed to see this lot of unkempt in breeds claiming to be English. They are not my England they are a live stage show of Jeremy Kyle.
Overweight. Terrible oral hygiene. Dirty scruffy clothes. Black rings under their eyes. What on earth happened to the English. They have gone to the dogs. My grandad fought in the war and would be ashamed to see this lot of unkempt in breeds claiming to be English. They are not my England they are a live stage show of Jeremy Kyle. TheInsider

6:35pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lunchtime O'Booze says...

TheInsider wrote:
Me and the missus were going into town for some shopping and a nice lunch but we will now head out of town to spend our cash elsewhere. After looking at the photos of the beer bellied blokes involved in the march up north doesn't instill much confidence that town will be a pleasant place to be today.
Bring on the gays and their carnival any day.
Hey! The Beer Bellied Blokes you are referring to were the Sussex Police!
According to Brighton and Hove Council these Fascists bring much needed funds into the town, together with the even larger anti-fascists. Spending many millions pf pounds when they finish marching. We have the Liberals soon, now they do look like trouble.
Judging by the banner they are holding, these fans will only disband as far as Withdean for the next home match! Heil Poyet
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: Me and the missus were going into town for some shopping and a nice lunch but we will now head out of town to spend our cash elsewhere. After looking at the photos of the beer bellied blokes involved in the march up north doesn't instill much confidence that town will be a pleasant place to be today. Bring on the gays and their carnival any day.[/p][/quote]Hey! The Beer Bellied Blokes you are referring to were the Sussex Police! According to Brighton and Hove Council these Fascists bring much needed funds into the town, together with the even larger anti-fascists. Spending many millions pf pounds when they finish marching. We have the Liberals soon, now they do look like trouble. Judging by the banner they are holding, these fans will only disband as far as Withdean for the next home match! Heil Poyet Lunchtime O'Booze

6:36pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

true-brightonian wrote:
garyscott wrote:
the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...
Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them.
correct and it was nice to hear a foreign citizen in brighton when the smelly soap dodgers went first down north street say that they thought they were all racists. How true they were.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...[/p][/quote]Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them.[/p][/quote]correct and it was nice to hear a foreign citizen in brighton when the smelly soap dodgers went first down north street say that they thought they were all racists. How true they were. garyscott

6:37pm Mon 30 Aug 10

intheknowlad says...

Why did these hardmen choose brighton to march on rather than the notting hill carnival-because they havent got the balls
Why did these hardmen choose brighton to march on rather than the notting hill carnival-because they havent got the balls intheknowlad

6:39pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lunchtime O'Booze says...

The earlier report..which was by the Argus Reporter on the scene gave the number of Marchers at 200. Now.the COUNTER demonstrators out number the Marcher 3:1 and there were 100 of them...

So..30 people on the March then

Great reporting...I assume you lot do not even read this tripe yourselves!
The earlier report..which was by the Argus Reporter on the scene gave the number of Marchers at 200. Now.the COUNTER demonstrators out number the Marcher 3:1 and there were 100 of them... So..30 people on the March then Great reporting...I assume you lot do not even read this tripe yourselves! Lunchtime O'Booze

6:41pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

cramp23 wrote:
Anyone who defends these 30 idiots who marched today really are anti-British themselves as i see it, no-one on the whole streets of Brighton wanted them there, every corner they turned they were met with people either shouting abuse at them or taking the **** out of them, really an embarrasment,nothing more
i did and i am from brighton - are you ? i guess you didnt complain when the edo smashed brighton up - at least we know how to conduct ourselves
[quote][p][bold]cramp23[/bold] wrote: Anyone who defends these 30 idiots who marched today really are anti-British themselves as i see it, no-one on the whole streets of Brighton wanted them there, every corner they turned they were met with people either shouting abuse at them or taking the **** out of them, really an embarrasment,nothing more[/p][/quote]i did and i am from brighton - are you ? i guess you didnt complain when the edo smashed brighton up - at least we know how to conduct ourselves garyscott

6:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

They just look poor and common. I know that sounds snobby but they do.
They just look poor and common. I know that sounds snobby but they do. TheInsider

6:51pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
Why did these hardmen choose brighton to march on rather than the notting hill carnival-because they havent got the balls
they have marched everyhere and always will - you are obviously a trouble maker when u mention that anti blacks should converge at the notting hill carnival and cause trouble - shame on you as you are the real racist here.
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Why did these hardmen choose brighton to march on rather than the notting hill carnival-because they havent got the balls[/p][/quote]they have marched everyhere and always will - you are obviously a trouble maker when u mention that anti blacks should converge at the notting hill carnival and cause trouble - shame on you as you are the real racist here. garyscott

6:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Tony Hove says...

I agree, they also look stupid. I would wager my flat on their average iq being below 100.

Sad to see the photo of a kid getting involved, he has obviously been roped along with moronic adults that 'care' for him.

Whatever I feel, I am exceptionally glad to live in a country where freedom of speach and the press is allowed.
I agree, they also look stupid. I would wager my flat on their average iq being below 100. Sad to see the photo of a kid getting involved, he has obviously been roped along with moronic adults that 'care' for him. Whatever I feel, I am exceptionally glad to live in a country where freedom of speach and the press is allowed. Tony Hove

6:59pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

Tony Hove wrote:
I agree, they also look stupid. I would wager my flat on their average iq being below 100.

Sad to see the photo of a kid getting involved, he has obviously been roped along with moronic adults that 'care' for him.

Whatever I feel, I am exceptionally glad to live in a country where freedom of speach and the press is allowed.
that 'kid' is our future and he does not want to grow up in a muslim state - unlike you obviously...
[quote][p][bold]Tony Hove[/bold] wrote: I agree, they also look stupid. I would wager my flat on their average iq being below 100. Sad to see the photo of a kid getting involved, he has obviously been roped along with moronic adults that 'care' for him. Whatever I feel, I am exceptionally glad to live in a country where freedom of speach and the press is allowed.[/p][/quote]that 'kid' is our future and he does not want to grow up in a muslim state - unlike you obviously... garyscott

7:02pm Mon 30 Aug 10

rpdutt says...

Canaille is the word that springs to mind. If they have a genuine political point to make, it's lost in the hooliganism and drunkenness.
Canaille is the word that springs to mind. If they have a genuine political point to make, it's lost in the hooliganism and drunkenness. rpdutt

7:05pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

rpdutt wrote:
Canaille is the word that springs to mind. If they have a genuine political point to make, it's lost in the hooliganism and drunkenness.
and there was no hooliganism or drunkennes so get your facts right...
[quote][p][bold]rpdutt[/bold] wrote: Canaille is the word that springs to mind. If they have a genuine political point to make, it's lost in the hooliganism and drunkenness.[/p][/quote]and there was no hooliganism or drunkennes so get your facts right... garyscott

7:08pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

pearlygrey you clearly werent there and didn't see it. and if you were then you are pretending you didnt see it. how can you tell me i'm out of my intellectual depth when you don't know me? i wager you are a paid up EDL member then.
pearlygrey you clearly werent there and didn't see it. and if you were then you are pretending you didnt see it. how can you tell me i'm out of my intellectual depth when you don't know me? i wager you are a paid up EDL member then. iceman00

7:09pm Mon 30 Aug 10

iceman00 says...

garyscott you ignorant waste of life.
garyscott you ignorant waste of life. iceman00

7:14pm Mon 30 Aug 10

workingmama says...

Looked like a Benefit Scroungers day out to me.
Looked like a Benefit Scroungers day out to me. workingmama

7:21pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

iceman00 wrote:
garyscott you ignorant waste of life.
you are obviosly one of the cowards that would never say that to my face - as a matter of fact, i work in the housing dept at brighton city council - which job centre do u sign on or ccollect your illegal ESA from ?
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: garyscott you ignorant waste of life.[/p][/quote]you are obviosly one of the cowards that would never say that to my face - as a matter of fact, i work in the housing dept at brighton city council - which job centre do u sign on or ccollect your illegal ESA from ? garyscott

7:25pm Mon 30 Aug 10

babs@12 says...

I don't know how any British patriot is ever going to be able to have a peacefull demonstration when every time the Government funded UAF counter demonstrate. I goes without reason that trouble will occur, which is exactly what the so called anti fascist want in the hope that all protests will be stopped...UAF have your own demo on your own date and lets stop all the clashes
I don't know how any British patriot is ever going to be able to have a peacefull demonstration when every time the Government funded UAF counter demonstrate. I goes without reason that trouble will occur, which is exactly what the so called anti fascist want in the hope that all protests will be stopped...UAF have your own demo on your own date and lets stop all the clashes babs@12

7:26pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

true-brightonian wrote:
garyscott wrote:
the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...
Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them.
if u say so and obviously you are the expert - prob best in st james st...
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: the only reason that they were outnumbered was because the anti mob are all unemployed. We need a proper demonstration next time and it will happen...[/p][/quote]Um, the EDL/ENA mob were outnumbered because they are hopeless racists. It was a bank holiday, so most people were not at work anyway? I saw the EDL/ENA lot up close, and I doubt many of them would ever be able to find employment. Their combined IQ must have been around 100. How many of them are out on bail for the weekend? There seemed to be a strong criminal element among them.[/p][/quote]if u say so and obviously you are the expert - prob best in st james st... garyscott

7:29pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

babs@12 wrote:
I don't know how any British patriot is ever going to be able to have a peacefull demonstration when every time the Government funded UAF counter demonstrate. I goes without reason that trouble will occur, which is exactly what the so called anti fascist want in the hope that all protests will be stopped...UAF have your own demo on your own date and lets stop all the clashes
well said babs...
[quote][p][bold]babs@12[/bold] wrote: I don't know how any British patriot is ever going to be able to have a peacefull demonstration when every time the Government funded UAF counter demonstrate. I goes without reason that trouble will occur, which is exactly what the so called anti fascist want in the hope that all protests will be stopped...UAF have your own demo on your own date and lets stop all the clashes[/p][/quote]well said babs... garyscott

7:35pm Mon 30 Aug 10

I love Sussex says...

Naturally, as ever, this subject evokes a great, and varied response. To be fair, I salute these proud people. Why, in a supposed Democracy can we not be proud and patriotic? Why are these people labelled as nazi's or racists and why must these protests be "counter protested"?? It's not that extreme at all really, just some patriotic people that stand up for their beliefs and their country. There is nothing wrong with that. Let it be.

The way it is portrayed is always to keep in with the PC brigade.
Naturally, as ever, this subject evokes a great, and varied response. To be fair, I salute these proud people. Why, in a supposed Democracy can we not be proud and patriotic? Why are these people labelled as nazi's or racists and why must these protests be "counter protested"?? It's not that extreme at all really, just some patriotic people that stand up for their beliefs and their country. There is nothing wrong with that. Let it be. The way it is portrayed is always to keep in with the PC brigade. I love Sussex

7:36pm Mon 30 Aug 10

babs@12 says...

Cramp 23. My father was in the bomb disposal in WW11, suffered for the rest of his life because of it, like so many thousands of brave troops. I am NOT an idiot I am a true British patriot who loves her country (or did) I support the ENA and EDL 100% (in memory of my father) for standing up for their British culture. How dare you generalise. You are a traitor to your country and should be ashamed of yourself.
Cramp 23. My father was in the bomb disposal in WW11, suffered for the rest of his life because of it, like so many thousands of brave troops. I am NOT an idiot I am a true British patriot who loves her country (or did) I support the ENA and EDL 100% (in memory of my father) for standing up for their British culture. How dare you generalise. You are a traitor to your country and should be ashamed of yourself. babs@12

7:49pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Cant believe how THICK, some of the people on this comments section are. If you think that displaying NAZI salutes is standing up for British culture, then frankly, youre a complete and utter waste of oxygen. However, I suspect EDL members around the country have been told to put this sort of nonesense out. Despite the fact that NAZI salutes were displayed, and the owners of at least one pub calling the Argus to say EDL members had come into their establishments and threw furniture around, we have been treated to comments from NAZI sympathisers about the right to be English, and there was no violence. Really, unless you people are members of this idiotic organisation who want to give the impression of support or youre complete and utter turnips.
Cant believe how THICK, some of the people on this comments section are. If you think that displaying NAZI salutes is standing up for British culture, then frankly, youre a complete and utter waste of oxygen. However, I suspect EDL members around the country have been told to put this sort of nonesense out. Despite the fact that NAZI salutes were displayed, and the owners of at least one pub calling the Argus to say EDL members had come into their establishments and threw furniture around, we have been treated to comments from NAZI sympathisers about the right to be English, and there was no violence. Really, unless you people are members of this idiotic organisation who want to give the impression of support or youre complete and utter turnips. daveinprague

7:52pm Mon 30 Aug 10

leobrighton says...

I observed this from the sidelines the arrests were of the opponents who obviously deliberately wanted to be arrested for the publicity. I have never before been to such an event but it was just down the road from where i live. Such a small amount of people involved and must have cost a fortune in police wages and overtime. Ordinary members of the public are not interested in this sort of thing but people are entitled to their views. Not sure who the fascists were in the end, certainly made me think.
I observed this from the sidelines the arrests were of the opponents who obviously deliberately wanted to be arrested for the publicity. I have never before been to such an event but it was just down the road from where i live. Such a small amount of people involved and must have cost a fortune in police wages and overtime. Ordinary members of the public are not interested in this sort of thing but people are entitled to their views. Not sure who the fascists were in the end, certainly made me think. leobrighton

7:53pm Mon 30 Aug 10

intheknowlad says...

Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on.
Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on. intheknowlad

8:01pm Mon 30 Aug 10

pearlygrey says...

iceman00 wrote:
pearlygrey you clearly werent there and didn't see it. and if you were then you are pretending you didnt see it. how can you tell me i'm out of my intellectual depth when you don't know me? i wager you are a paid up EDL member then.
Then you'll definitely die poor (as well as stupid).
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: pearlygrey you clearly werent there and didn't see it. and if you were then you are pretending you didnt see it. how can you tell me i'm out of my intellectual depth when you don't know me? i wager you are a paid up EDL member then.[/p][/quote]Then you'll definitely die poor (as well as stupid). pearlygrey

8:08pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

The MCVICAR comment is a joke yeah?
The MCVICAR comment is a joke yeah? daveinprague

8:11pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on.
yeah and we all accept your pathetic bile. guess you are not a season ticket holder at withdean as u prob are a glory hunter and as for scum - how many were arrested today ? all from your side so dont give me your tripe - go, clean your own doorstep scum ....
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on.[/p][/quote]yeah and we all accept your pathetic bile. guess you are not a season ticket holder at withdean as u prob are a glory hunter and as for scum - how many were arrested today ? all from your side so dont give me your tripe - go, clean your own doorstep scum .... garyscott

8:14pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on.
Go educate yourself you piece of scum.
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Garyscott im a football fan proud of my heritage my country,my flag and all that it stands for, how dare you label me as a raicist. EDL wouldnt have the balls to march at Notting Hill today because they would have been lynched so they choose the most accepting town in the uk instead. My forefathers fought against the nazi salute and you scum carry it on.[/p][/quote]Go educate yourself you piece of scum. garyscott

8:22pm Mon 30 Aug 10

UglyAmerican says...

Our rednecks can kick your rednecks butts any day of the week.
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No matter where you stand on the issues & ideology presented by either side, be glad you live in a nation that allows you to express it. Consider the alternatives. Also consider that those who wear their hearts on their sleeves are easily identified as sleeve-hearted.
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Wasn't there today, happy for that. However, the Nationalists in England have built quite a reputation for themselves. Yes, Nazi tattoos, heil salutes and swastikas abound at most of their gatherings. As long as these rabble are all you get, no problem. Be concerned when you start seeing suits, or worse, uniforms.
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PS-
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Racism is for unimaginative, lazy gits. I can come up with an individual reason to not like anyone.
Our rednecks can kick your rednecks butts any day of the week. . No matter where you stand on the issues & ideology presented by either side, be glad you live in a nation that allows you to express it. Consider the alternatives. Also consider that those who wear their hearts on their sleeves are easily identified as sleeve-hearted. . Wasn't there today, happy for that. However, the Nationalists in England have built quite a reputation for themselves. Yes, Nazi tattoos, heil salutes and swastikas abound at most of their gatherings. As long as these rabble are all you get, no problem. Be concerned when you start seeing suits, or worse, uniforms. . PS- . Racism is for unimaginative, lazy gits. I can come up with an individual reason to not like anyone. UglyAmerican

8:25pm Mon 30 Aug 10

true-brightonian says...

Readers: don't be tricked by the EDL/ENA people bleating about "freedom of speech". I watched as they chanted "Allah is a paedo", "does your boyfriend know you're here" and similar racist/homophobic things to anyone who looked like the "enemy". This is not freedom of speech. It is racial hatred. Check the law, if you don't believe me: http://www.yourright
s.org.uk/yourrights/
right-of-free-expres
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strictions-on-freedo
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al-hatred.html

The shocking thing is not that they shouted these things. The shocking thing is that they did it from behind a wall of police that you and I pay for. That is not freedom of speech. It is just state-sponsored bigotry. The police should be ashamed for allowing their racist chants to go on unchallenged. I hope that if the ENA/EDL apply to do another "march" through Brighton the city will have the courage to refuse them a permit.
Readers: don't be tricked by the EDL/ENA people bleating about "freedom of speech". I watched as they chanted "Allah is a paedo", "does your boyfriend know you're here" and similar racist/homophobic things to anyone who looked like the "enemy". This is not freedom of speech. It is racial hatred. Check the law, if you don't believe me: http://www.yourright s.org.uk/yourrights/ right-of-free-expres sion/criminal-law-re strictions-on-freedo m-of-expression/raci al-hatred.html The shocking thing is not that they shouted these things. The shocking thing is that they did it from behind a wall of police that you and I pay for. That is not freedom of speech. It is just state-sponsored bigotry. The police should be ashamed for allowing their racist chants to go on unchallenged. I hope that if the ENA/EDL apply to do another "march" through Brighton the city will have the courage to refuse them a permit. true-brightonian

8:26pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

Both sets of demonstrators are idiots. The fascists are idiots because all fascists are brain dead idiots. The anti fascists are idiots because without their 'intervention' 30 skinheads holding a march would have amounted to NOTHING.
The only way to deal with fascists is not to confront them - but to laugh at them. I suggest, that if they decide to trouble us next August bank holiday, that all of us moderate Brightonians don clown outfits, or anything bohemian and colourful, line the route of the march and point and LAUGH AT THEM. Do not bother with confrontation - you play right into their hands.
I would encourage members of our gay community to join us wearing their most colourful Pride costumes.
They will never come here again if we did that. I guarantee it.
And Larry Taylor - you are a prize d!ck.
Both sets of demonstrators are idiots. The fascists are idiots because all fascists are brain dead idiots. The anti fascists are idiots because without their 'intervention' 30 skinheads holding a march would have amounted to NOTHING. The only way to deal with fascists is not to confront them - but to laugh at them. I suggest, that if they decide to trouble us next August bank holiday, that all of us moderate Brightonians don clown outfits, or anything bohemian and colourful, line the route of the march and point and LAUGH AT THEM. Do not bother with confrontation - you play right into their hands. I would encourage members of our gay community to join us wearing their most colourful Pride costumes. They will never come here again if we did that. I guarantee it. And Larry Taylor - you are a prize d!ck. Ballroom Blitz

8:27pm Mon 30 Aug 10

leobrighton says...

Obviously a lack of tolerance in Brighton but the opposition doesnt work for a living having to compete against cheap foreign labour instead wanting to invite them all in for a party and show how nice you all are, stop the benefits and the drug supply and see what happens
Obviously a lack of tolerance in Brighton but the opposition doesnt work for a living having to compete against cheap foreign labour instead wanting to invite them all in for a party and show how nice you all are, stop the benefits and the drug supply and see what happens leobrighton

8:29pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

Finally - anyone still supporting these idiots:
Nazi salute alright then is it? You are lucky this isn't Germany - you would be in prison.
Finally - anyone still supporting these idiots: Nazi salute alright then is it? You are lucky this isn't Germany - you would be in prison. Ballroom Blitz

8:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

intheknowlad says...

garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you
garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you intheknowlad

8:35pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

Gary Scott RACIST tw@t
Gary Scott RACIST tw@t Ballroom Blitz

8:38pm Mon 30 Aug 10

KeefyH44 says...

iceman00 wrote:
Urgh cousins for parents. If it is white British, Pakistani or other it's just wrong!
They really were some pretty nasty looking people protesting for them tho. full on nazi tattoos and all. that is NOT patriotism.
When did it become illegal for cousins to marry?
[quote][p][bold]iceman00[/bold] wrote: Urgh cousins for parents. If it is white British, Pakistani or other it's just wrong! They really were some pretty nasty looking people protesting for them tho. full on nazi tattoos and all. that is NOT patriotism.[/p][/quote]When did it become illegal for cousins to marry? KeefyH44

8:38pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you
Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you[/p][/quote]Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ? garyscott

8:45pm Mon 30 Aug 10

UglyAmerican says...

Don't feed the troll
Don't feed the troll UglyAmerican

8:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

I feel very sorry for you Gary. It must be terrible for you. I don't know the cause of the trauma that obviously effects you, but I hope you find some freedom from your fear, otherwise I can only see your life remaining sad and miserable. Good Luck.
I feel very sorry for you Gary. It must be terrible for you. I don't know the cause of the trauma that obviously effects you, but I hope you find some freedom from your fear, otherwise I can only see your life remaining sad and miserable. Good Luck. Surely not!

8:51pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

was great to see a well organised march today and no shops attacked like when the EDO scroungers are around. Keep it up and next time we will have double the amount and at least be welcome in Brighton as we proved today that we can have a peaceful march unlike the soap dodgers...
was great to see a well organised march today and no shops attacked like when the EDO scroungers are around. Keep it up and next time we will have double the amount and at least be welcome in Brighton as we proved today that we can have a peaceful march unlike the soap dodgers... garyscott

8:58pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

daveinprague

You're in prague so how do you know there were nazi salutes, I haven't seen any.

Please stop lying it makes you look daft.

It saddens me to see so many fascists trying to deny law-abiding citizens of this country a peaceful march.

The anti-working class rhetoric which oozes out of their posts is also unseemly.

What a shame. What a terrible, terrible shame.
daveinprague You're in prague so how do you know there were nazi salutes, I haven't seen any. Please stop lying it makes you look daft. It saddens me to see so many fascists trying to deny law-abiding citizens of this country a peaceful march. The anti-working class rhetoric which oozes out of their posts is also unseemly. What a shame. What a terrible, terrible shame. Kahuna

8:59pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Mr Lahey says...

garyscott wrote:
intheknowlad wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you
Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?
how hard.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you[/p][/quote]Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?[/p][/quote]how hard. Mr Lahey

9:03pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Mr Lahey wrote:
garyscott wrote:
intheknowlad wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you
Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?
how hard.
Very apparently.

He's just seen those topless pics of cliff richard.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Lahey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you[/p][/quote]Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?[/p][/quote]how hard.[/p][/quote]Very apparently. He's just seen those topless pics of cliff richard. Kahuna

9:06pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

Kahuna wrote:
Mr Lahey wrote:
garyscott wrote:
intheknowlad wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you
Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?
how hard.
Very apparently.

He's just seen those topless pics of cliff richard.
LOL
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Lahey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: garyscott i worked today,like i do every day, i could have an executive box at any club in the country if i sold the medal my grandfather got for fighting against what scum like you stand for.I support the club my grandfather did in the 1930's the club that had a black man leading their firm in the 80's and 90's a man that would blow you out of the water. Dont get me confused with the people who turned up against you today,because they are idiots just like you[/p][/quote]Does your boyfriend know you are on the computer ?[/p][/quote]how hard.[/p][/quote]Very apparently. He's just seen those topless pics of cliff richard.[/p][/quote]LOL garyscott

9:10pm Mon 30 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad
yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad george 3rd

9:13pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock.
They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania.
Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces.
These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support.
Let's send them all to Merseyside.
I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock. They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania. Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces. These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support. Let's send them all to Merseyside. TheInsider

9:13pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock.
They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania.
Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces.
These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support.
Let's send them all to Merseyside.
I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock. They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania. Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces. These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support. Let's send them all to Merseyside. TheInsider

9:16pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

george 3rd wrote:
yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad
Agreed george, tho I did laugh when garyscott threatened to double the numbers next time, I mean... 60 daft people marching down the street.... theres got to be a joke there somewhere...
[quote][p][bold]george 3rd[/bold] wrote: yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad[/p][/quote]Agreed george, tho I did laugh when garyscott threatened to double the numbers next time, I mean... 60 daft people marching down the street.... theres got to be a joke there somewhere... Surely not!

9:16pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

george 3rd wrote:
yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad
Agreed george, tho I did laugh when garyscott threatened to double the numbers next time, I mean... 60 daft people marching down the street.... theres got to be a joke there somewhere...
[quote][p][bold]george 3rd[/bold] wrote: yep, i'd say that sums up the day perfectly, ineffectual, unfunny and a bit sad[/p][/quote]Agreed george, tho I did laugh when garyscott threatened to double the numbers next time, I mean... 60 daft people marching down the street.... theres got to be a joke there somewhere... Surely not!

9:21pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG.

brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside.
They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents

Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft.

Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology. daveinprague

9:26pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

surely not, surely not - thats twice u said that - have u got a stutter ?
surely not, surely not - thats twice u said that - have u got a stutter ? garyscott

9:27pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

TheInsider wrote:
I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock.
They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania.
Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces.
These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support.
Let's send them all to Merseyside.
Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning.

Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend.

Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave.

Just looking out for you, man.
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock. They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania. Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces. These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support. Let's send them all to Merseyside.[/p][/quote]Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning. Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend. Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave. Just looking out for you, man. Kahuna

9:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

daveinprague wrote:
It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG.

brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside.
They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents

Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft.

Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes.

Now calm down.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down. Kahuna

9:34pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

Kahuna wrote:
TheInsider wrote:
I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock.
They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania.
Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces.
These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support.
Let's send them all to Merseyside.
Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning.

Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend.

Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave.

Just looking out for you, man.
he is talking about a typical brightonian - britains drug death capital lol
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock. They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania. Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces. These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support. Let's send them all to Merseyside.[/p][/quote]Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning. Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend. Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave. Just looking out for you, man.[/p][/quote]he is talking about a typical brightonian - britains drug death capital lol garyscott

9:37pm Mon 30 Aug 10

puddingandpi says...

"After a short stay, they then marched back to the station and disbanded. "
.
So they arrived at the station, went for a wander & then went home again? Did they call in at the Tea Rooms?
.
I'm a Bradford lass & both our fascists & our antis know how to do it right!
.
There should have been nowhere near that level of Police presence because that just makes protesters (of either hue) feel much more important than they are. Have a minimal police presence with a maximum standby force.
.
They're only doing it for attention. I *must* say this though: I see a man dressed in a particular way in Bradford, I think he's a Nazi. I see the same man dressed in the same way in Brighton & he's gay.
.
You know, the tight pale jeans, rolled at the ankle. Doc Marten boots, possibly with red laces. The green jacket, skin-head, white T-shirt, chain running from belt-loop to front pocket. I saw a bloke in Kemptown the other day who even had the red braces, worn hanging down, obviously.
.
I just take great delight in telling Neo-Nazis that they look totally gay.
"After a short stay, they then marched back to the station and disbanded. " . So they arrived at the station, went for a wander & then went home again? Did they call in at the Tea Rooms? . I'm a Bradford lass & both our fascists & our antis know how to do it right! . There should have been nowhere near that level of Police presence because that just makes protesters (of either hue) feel much more important than they are. Have a minimal police presence with a maximum standby force. . They're only doing it for attention. I *must* say this though: I see a man dressed in a particular way in Bradford, I think he's a Nazi. I see the same man dressed in the same way in Brighton & he's gay. . You know, the tight pale jeans, rolled at the ankle. Doc Marten boots, possibly with red laces. The green jacket, skin-head, white T-shirt, chain running from belt-loop to front pocket. I saw a bloke in Kemptown the other day who even had the red braces, worn hanging down, obviously. . I just take great delight in telling Neo-Nazis that they look totally gay. puddingandpi

9:40pm Mon 30 Aug 10

als40 says...

Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague

You're in prague so how do you know there were nazi salutes, I haven't seen any.

Please stop lying it makes you look daft.

It saddens me to see so many fascists trying to deny law-abiding citizens of this country a peaceful march.

The anti-working class rhetoric which oozes out of their posts is also unseemly.

What a shame. What a terrible, terrible shame.
Big Kahuna Burger, the anti-working class stuff is unpleasant but you a huge hypocrite. THe EDL wants to split the working class down colour lines and before you claim to be diverse with black members etc and only hate militant Islam we all know how the EDL smashed up the Hindu Temple in Dudley. The newspaper reports of Nazi salutes are not surprising considering how many times previously the EDL have been caught on camera doing exactly the same thing. Your march wasn't peaceful today; go to the Great Eastern. Anyway, you are incapable of conducting a peaceful march as your shameful message if full of racist bile. If you want to stand up for the rights of the working class stop opressing your brothers and sisters for their race, religion or sexuality
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: daveinprague You're in prague so how do you know there were nazi salutes, I haven't seen any. Please stop lying it makes you look daft. It saddens me to see so many fascists trying to deny law-abiding citizens of this country a peaceful march. The anti-working class rhetoric which oozes out of their posts is also unseemly. What a shame. What a terrible, terrible shame.[/p][/quote]Big Kahuna Burger, the anti-working class stuff is unpleasant but you a huge hypocrite. THe EDL wants to split the working class down colour lines and before you claim to be diverse with black members etc and only hate militant Islam we all know how the EDL smashed up the Hindu Temple in Dudley. The newspaper reports of Nazi salutes are not surprising considering how many times previously the EDL have been caught on camera doing exactly the same thing. Your march wasn't peaceful today; go to the Great Eastern. Anyway, you are incapable of conducting a peaceful march as your shameful message if full of racist bile. If you want to stand up for the rights of the working class stop opressing your brothers and sisters for their race, religion or sexuality als40

9:42pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

garyscott wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
TheInsider wrote:
I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock.
They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania.
Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces.
These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support.
Let's send them all to Merseyside.
Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning.

Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend.

Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave.

Just looking out for you, man.
he is talking about a typical brightonian - britains drug death capital lol
That's probably why he's so angry.

Smack withdrawal can be a terrible thing.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: I just wish they didn't look so poor and in ill-health. I hope the photos are not sent around the world, England would be a laughing stock. They actually look like the people of Chernobyl or some sort of advert for an appeal to help the mentally ill of Romania. Look at the photos. Filthy, brown, higgledy-piggledy teeth; cheap, poorly made clothes like you find in a refuse bag, big beer bellies or sunken alcoholic faces. These people represent the desperate side of England and now the other corners of Jeremy Kyle England are coming out in support. Let's send them all to Merseyside.[/p][/quote]Dude, live and let live. Quite why their appearance bothers you so much it's slightly concerning. Learn to chill out. Have a beer, go to the pub, get a boyfriend. Do something otherwise you'll always be angry and there's no surer path to an early grave. Just looking out for you, man.[/p][/quote]he is talking about a typical brightonian - britains drug death capital lol[/p][/quote]That's probably why he's so angry. Smack withdrawal can be a terrible thing. Kahuna

9:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Andy R says...

Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.
Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first.

Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.[/p][/quote]Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton. Andy R

9:49pm Mon 30 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.
Who would I believe. A journalist from the local Brighton newspaper or a NAZI apologist?
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.[/p][/quote]Who would I believe. A journalist from the local Brighton newspaper or a NAZI apologist? daveinprague

9:50pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

puddingandpi wrote:
"After a short stay, they then marched back to the station and disbanded. "
.
So they arrived at the station, went for a wander & then went home again? Did they call in at the Tea Rooms?
.
I'm a Bradford lass & both our fascists & our antis know how to do it right!
.
There should have been nowhere near that level of Police presence because that just makes protesters (of either hue) feel much more important than they are. Have a minimal police presence with a maximum standby force.
.
They're only doing it for attention. I *must* say this though: I see a man dressed in a particular way in Bradford, I think he's a Nazi. I see the same man dressed in the same way in Brighton & he's gay.
.
You know, the tight pale jeans, rolled at the ankle. Doc Marten boots, possibly with red laces. The green jacket, skin-head, white T-shirt, chain running from belt-loop to front pocket. I saw a bloke in Kemptown the other day who even had the red braces, worn hanging down, obviously.
.
I just take great delight in telling Neo-Nazis that they look totally gay.
in bradford, they prob are gay - not much else to do up there lol
[quote][p][bold]puddingandpi[/bold] wrote: "After a short stay, they then marched back to the station and disbanded. " . So they arrived at the station, went for a wander & then went home again? Did they call in at the Tea Rooms? . I'm a Bradford lass & both our fascists & our antis know how to do it right! . There should have been nowhere near that level of Police presence because that just makes protesters (of either hue) feel much more important than they are. Have a minimal police presence with a maximum standby force. . They're only doing it for attention. I *must* say this though: I see a man dressed in a particular way in Bradford, I think he's a Nazi. I see the same man dressed in the same way in Brighton & he's gay. . You know, the tight pale jeans, rolled at the ankle. Doc Marten boots, possibly with red laces. The green jacket, skin-head, white T-shirt, chain running from belt-loop to front pocket. I saw a bloke in Kemptown the other day who even had the red braces, worn hanging down, obviously. . I just take great delight in telling Neo-Nazis that they look totally gay.[/p][/quote]in bradford, they prob are gay - not much else to do up there lol garyscott

9:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

RealAleForever says...

You EDL/ENA muppets, if you truly love your country get your backsides down to the armed forces recruiting office and actually defend it from real threats, or is that too much like hard work?

Whats more stop dragging the name of Brighton and Hove Albion through the mud.
You EDL/ENA muppets, if you truly love your country get your backsides down to the armed forces recruiting office and actually defend it from real threats, or is that too much like hard work? Whats more stop dragging the name of Brighton and Hove Albion through the mud. RealAleForever

10:06pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Andy R says...

RealAleForever wrote:
You EDL/ENA muppets, if you truly love your country get your backsides down to the armed forces recruiting office and actually defend it from real threats, or is that too much like hard work? Whats more stop dragging the name of Brighton and Hove Albion through the mud.
I didn't see the Albion flags personally. I don't think anyone believes that this rabble had any official connection to the club, or the vast majority of decent supporters for that matter.

I don't think we'll be seeing the EDL trying to march in Brighton again anytime soon.

Sometimes the word "humiliation" seems such an inadequate description.........
[quote][p][bold]RealAleForever[/bold] wrote: You EDL/ENA muppets, if you truly love your country get your backsides down to the armed forces recruiting office and actually defend it from real threats, or is that too much like hard work? Whats more stop dragging the name of Brighton and Hove Albion through the mud.[/p][/quote]I didn't see the Albion flags personally. I don't think anyone believes that this rabble had any official connection to the club, or the vast majority of decent supporters for that matter. I don't think we'll be seeing the EDL trying to march in Brighton again anytime soon. Sometimes the word "humiliation" seems such an inadequate description......... Andy R

10:09pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Brighton is a multi-cultural city where diversity of race, religion and sexuality are embraced.
And Kahuna, it is important what people look like as these photos of this lot may get world-wide viewing and what the hell must people think happened to Britain - once a world power now a handful of almost destitute people rambling around. They don't even have any pride in themselves so please don't try and say they are proud of their country.
They are an embarrassment.
Brighton is a multi-cultural city where diversity of race, religion and sexuality are embraced. And Kahuna, it is important what people look like as these photos of this lot may get world-wide viewing and what the hell must people think happened to Britain - once a world power now a handful of almost destitute people rambling around. They don't even have any pride in themselves so please don't try and say they are proud of their country. They are an embarrassment. TheInsider

10:11pm Mon 30 Aug 10

intheknowlad says...

Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx
Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx intheknowlad

10:22pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx
why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx[/p][/quote]why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol garyscott

10:26pm Mon 30 Aug 10

intheknowlad says...

Where ever you wish
Where ever you wish intheknowlad

10:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

intheknowlad wrote:
Where ever you wish
u tell me then.
[quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Where ever you wish[/p][/quote]u tell me then. garyscott

10:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Andy R wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.
Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first.

Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.
Pics or it didn't happen.

Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way.

If so you haven't achieved your objective.

SOZ!
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.[/p][/quote]Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Pics or it didn't happen. Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way. If so you haven't achieved your objective. SOZ! Kahuna

10:36pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

TheInsider wrote:
Brighton is a multi-cultural city where diversity of race, religion and sexuality are embraced.
And Kahuna, it is important what people look like as these photos of this lot may get world-wide viewing and what the hell must people think happened to Britain - once a world power now a handful of almost destitute people rambling around. They don't even have any pride in themselves so please don't try and say they are proud of their country.
They are an embarrassment.
Hey Renton, how's it going?

Why are you so hung up on how they look?
It's really weird. Is it a withdrawal symptom?
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: Brighton is a multi-cultural city where diversity of race, religion and sexuality are embraced. And Kahuna, it is important what people look like as these photos of this lot may get world-wide viewing and what the hell must people think happened to Britain - once a world power now a handful of almost destitute people rambling around. They don't even have any pride in themselves so please don't try and say they are proud of their country. They are an embarrassment.[/p][/quote]Hey Renton, how's it going? Why are you so hung up on how they look? It's really weird. Is it a withdrawal symptom? Kahuna

10:44pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Lunchtime O'Booze says...

dixie normous wrote:
so 30 protesters, and 100 anti protesters, brought the town to a standstill. how pathetic is that. ive seen more than that down london road queing up for the next bit of smack. it makes the guerilla gardens saga, look like the battle of agincourt.
Imagine the Police overtime! farcical..and the numbers are a JOKE!
[quote][p][bold]dixie normous[/bold] wrote: so 30 protesters, and 100 anti protesters, brought the town to a standstill. how pathetic is that. ive seen more than that down london road queing up for the next bit of smack. it makes the guerilla gardens saga, look like the battle of agincourt.[/p][/quote]Imagine the Police overtime! farcical..and the numbers are a JOKE! Lunchtime O'Booze

10:47pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Andy R says...

Kahuna wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.
Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.
Pics or it didn't happen. Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way. If so you haven't achieved your objective. SOZ!
It's only an insult to you if you were one of the organisers - your call.

Although I can imagine that if you were, you may not want to own up in a hurry......
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.[/p][/quote]Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Pics or it didn't happen. Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way. If so you haven't achieved your objective. SOZ![/p][/quote]It's only an insult to you if you were one of the organisers - your call. Although I can imagine that if you were, you may not want to own up in a hurry...... Andy R

10:49pm Mon 30 Aug 10

als40 says...

KAHUNA EDL do nazi salutes all the time. Remember Harrow?
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=-mdwkJhGB
BM
KAHUNA EDL do nazi salutes all the time. Remember Harrow? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=-mdwkJhGB BM als40

10:51pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

oh do stop rambling on Kahuna.
We are not interested in this type of thing here.
We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues.
The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out.
Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like.
PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.
oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here. TheInsider

10:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

joint winners of augusts "eugenics monthly" competition are garyscott and kahuna. both recieve an iron cross and a weekends full board in the 'eagles nest' guesthaus, bavaria.
joint winners of augusts "eugenics monthly" competition are garyscott and kahuna. both recieve an iron cross and a weekends full board in the 'eagles nest' guesthaus, bavaria. george 3rd

10:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Andy R wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
Andy R wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
daveinprague wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.
Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.
Pics or it didn't happen. Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way. If so you haven't achieved your objective. SOZ!
It's only an insult to you if you were one of the organisers - your call.

Although I can imagine that if you were, you may not want to own up in a hurry......
Ooh no I certainly wouldn't want to do that. Especially not in a hurry.


I'd have to incur your terrible wrath.
A fate I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.

YIKES!
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: It was REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER DURING THE AFTERNOON BLOG. brightonargus: The police have taken the EDL into the station. Some of the marchers gave Nazi salutes shortly before they were moved inside. They were sent off with jeers of: 'Worst fascists ever!' from their opponents Please stop trying to say that NAZIS that gave NAZI salutes are celebrating British culture. It makes you look daft. Its a terrible, terrible shame, that crappy little organisations get the FEEBLE minded, like yourself, to defend their loathsome ideology.[/p][/quote]Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. There were cameras everyhwere, taking pictures every 4 seconds but no nazi salutes. Now calm down.[/p][/quote]Yes there were. I realise you're only here following orders, but if you are going to comment on what you didn't see then I would suggest checking your facts first. Good to see that the debating skills of the average EDL member just about matches their ability to organise a day out in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Pics or it didn't happen. Not really sure what the rest of your ramblings mean. I dimly suspect you're trying to insult me in some way. If so you haven't achieved your objective. SOZ![/p][/quote]It's only an insult to you if you were one of the organisers - your call. Although I can imagine that if you were, you may not want to own up in a hurry......[/p][/quote]Ooh no I certainly wouldn't want to do that. Especially not in a hurry. I'd have to incur your terrible wrath. A fate I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy. YIKES! Kahuna

11:02pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

cont. on page 94
cont. on page 94 Surely not!

11:03pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

TheInsider wrote:
oh do stop rambling on Kahuna.
We are not interested in this type of thing here.
We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues.
The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out.
Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like.
PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.
That's just the thing about Brighton though.
The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed.

They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity.

All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity.

Really odd.

Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'.
Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life.

Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed.



I
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.[/p][/quote]That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I Kahuna

11:11pm Mon 30 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

What did the German kid say when he pushed his brother off a cliff?
"Look, mother, no Hans!"
What did the German kid say when he pushed his brother off a cliff? "Look, mother, no Hans!" george 3rd

11:27pm Mon 30 Aug 10

garyscott says...

george 3rd wrote:
joint winners of augusts "eugenics monthly" competition are garyscott and kahuna. both recieve an iron cross and a weekends full board in the 'eagles nest' guesthaus, bavaria.
go and play on the M23.
[quote][p][bold]george 3rd[/bold] wrote: joint winners of augusts "eugenics monthly" competition are garyscott and kahuna. both recieve an iron cross and a weekends full board in the 'eagles nest' guesthaus, bavaria.[/p][/quote]go and play on the M23. garyscott

11:30pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Dirk Von Roden says...

myself being physically challenged pushed myself to follow the misguided people who say they are British! it would be an insult to mentally challenged people have theirintellect used as an example of the ena edl the ena edl are people who "Have brains that work ! but they do not use them" I highly commend Brighton police Thames Valley and who ever else policed this march ! they were perfect Gentlemen and Ladies polite ! That is a British person ! how many of the police would have felt like kicking thier backsides ? Restraint and in all honesty(I have an ongoing issue with Brighton police) who could fault them today I would say "3" CHEARS to a force that allowed the fools to be here and not antagonise either sides view! "3" Chears to a well policed march ! Shame 3 people messed up! Live and Let live in my opinion but do not take advantage of what we have "FREEDOM"
myself being physically challenged pushed myself to follow the misguided people who say they are British! it would be an insult to mentally challenged people have theirintellect used as an example of the ena edl the ena edl are people who "Have brains that work ! but they do not use them" I highly commend Brighton police Thames Valley and who ever else policed this march ! they were perfect Gentlemen and Ladies polite ! That is a British person ! how many of the police would have felt like kicking thier backsides ? Restraint and in all honesty(I have an ongoing issue with Brighton police) who could fault them today I would say "3" CHEARS to a force that allowed the fools to be here and not antagonise either sides view! "3" Chears to a well policed march ! Shame 3 people messed up! Live and Let live in my opinion but do not take advantage of what we have "FREEDOM" Dirk Von Roden

11:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop.
Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it.
My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way.
Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.
You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop. Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it. My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way. Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march. TheInsider

11:33pm Mon 30 Aug 10

DougM says...

Anyone who supports this shower should be deported from our country.
Our fathers and mothers fought in the war to protect our country from scum like this.
Luckily they're all too thick to get anywhere in life and will soon be washed down society's drains into the sewers where they belong.
Anyone who supports this shower should be deported from our country. Our fathers and mothers fought in the war to protect our country from scum like this. Luckily they're all too thick to get anywhere in life and will soon be washed down society's drains into the sewers where they belong. DougM

11:39pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Dirk Von Roden says...

I actually saw a friends nephew amongst the edl supporters ! he is always asking for money from him (and gets it!) what he does not realise is his own family background is ruddy Jewish!! his side of the family are pure white but his uncle has olive coloured skin!
I actually saw a friends nephew amongst the edl supporters ! he is always asking for money from him (and gets it!) what he does not realise is his own family background is ruddy Jewish!! his side of the family are pure white but his uncle has olive coloured skin! Dirk Von Roden

11:48pm Mon 30 Aug 10

sdthetruth says...

TheInsider wrote:
You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop.
Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it.
My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way.
Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.
Why don't you give your multiple postings a rest. You are constantly repeating yourself. Are you retarded or something?
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop. Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it. My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way. Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.[/p][/quote]Why don't you give your multiple postings a rest. You are constantly repeating yourself. Are you retarded or something? sdthetruth

11:53pm Mon 30 Aug 10

White-Hawke says...

It's disappointing to see the amount of prejudice towards people from council estates being shown by those who claim to be AGAINST prejudice. Unfortunately, this kind of hypocrisy discredits otherwise noble views as it makes your indignation with the likes of the EDL seem more like middle-class snobbery rather than genuine disgust towards intolerance.

What needs to be remembered is that it's the majority of decent, law abiding working class people in council estates who have to put up with thugs of this ilk day in, day out. Not just when they decide to congregate down town. As an educated working class person who has a profound love and understanding of this country's culture that these EDL morons could not even imagine, I absolutely abhor the way they debase our culture and conflate Englishness with yobbery.

Make no mistake, these yobs are the same kind of people who 'love' their country so much they will think nothing of getting boozed or drugged up and beating up their fellow countrymen (of any colour) just for the fun of it. These are the very same yobs who terrorise their estates with crime and anti-social behaviour. It is no secret that a large portion of these nationalist groups' ranks are known football hooligans and it's difficult not to believe that most of the remainder aren't younger wannabe hooligans themselves.

I very much doubt that any of these 'defenders of England' have any real interest in English culture and our rich history. I doubt many of them have read a single book on any significant event from the arrivals of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the 5th Century to the present day. I doubt many of them visit historical sites or museums or even enjoy walks in our green and pleasant land. I doubt many of them have read much Chaucer, Milton or Shakespeare. I'm sure they prefer gangsta rap or 'grime' to traditional English folk music.

And that's an important point. I can believe it when a lot of EDL supporters say they are not racist. I certainly don't believe that they are consistently racist anyway. So much of the culture of these wannabe gangsters is bound up in imitating Black American or jamaican 'gangsta' culture that it's unlikely many of them have any deep hostility towards black people. They simply use people's justifiable concerns over the more nefarious elements of Islam as an excuse to try and elevate their thuggery into something more meaningful. The one thing they don't factor in is that the majority of people in this city are highly intelligent and are not in the slightest bit fooled.

The threat of radical Islam is not something to live in denial about, but when and where it arises, we trust our professional law enforcement services to protect us from it - not a bunch of anti-social thugs whose understanding of English culture amounts to nothing more than moronic, cacophonic chants of 'En-ger-land' and uncivilised behaviour which would make Churchill and other great Englishmen of the past thoroughly ashamed.
It's disappointing to see the amount of prejudice towards people from council estates being shown by those who claim to be AGAINST prejudice. Unfortunately, this kind of hypocrisy discredits otherwise noble views as it makes your indignation with the likes of the EDL seem more like middle-class snobbery rather than genuine disgust towards intolerance. What needs to be remembered is that it's the majority of decent, law abiding working class people in council estates who have to put up with thugs of this ilk day in, day out. Not just when they decide to congregate down town. As an educated working class person who has a profound love and understanding of this country's culture that these EDL morons could not even imagine, I absolutely abhor the way they debase our culture and conflate Englishness with yobbery. Make no mistake, these yobs are the same kind of people who 'love' their country so much they will think nothing of getting boozed or drugged up and beating up their fellow countrymen (of any colour) just for the fun of it. These are the very same yobs who terrorise their estates with crime and anti-social behaviour. It is no secret that a large portion of these nationalist groups' ranks are known football hooligans and it's difficult not to believe that most of the remainder aren't younger wannabe hooligans themselves. I very much doubt that any of these 'defenders of England' have any real interest in English culture and our rich history. I doubt many of them have read a single book on any significant event from the arrivals of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the 5th Century to the present day. I doubt many of them visit historical sites or museums or even enjoy walks in our green and pleasant land. I doubt many of them have read much Chaucer, Milton or Shakespeare. I'm sure they prefer gangsta rap or 'grime' to traditional English folk music. And that's an important point. I can believe it when a lot of EDL supporters say they are not racist. I certainly don't believe that they are consistently racist anyway. So much of the culture of these wannabe gangsters is bound up in imitating Black American or jamaican 'gangsta' culture that it's unlikely many of them have any deep hostility towards black people. They simply use people's justifiable concerns over the more nefarious elements of Islam as an excuse to try and elevate their thuggery into something more meaningful. The one thing they don't factor in is that the majority of people in this city are highly intelligent and are not in the slightest bit fooled. The threat of radical Islam is not something to live in denial about, but when and where it arises, we trust our professional law enforcement services to protect us from it - not a bunch of anti-social thugs whose understanding of English culture amounts to nothing more than moronic, cacophonic chants of 'En-ger-land' and uncivilised behaviour which would make Churchill and other great Englishmen of the past thoroughly ashamed. White-Hawke

11:55pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Hard times says...

Dirk Von Roden wrote:
I actually saw a friends nephew amongst the edl supporters ! he is always asking for money from him (and gets it!) what he does not realise is his own family background is ruddy Jewish!! his side of the family are pure white but his uncle has olive coloured skin!
The edl marchers were carrying a star of david banner.

Lets all drop this Nazi thing once and for all shall we. I am in no way an edl supporter or sympathiser but I have at least taken 5 mins to read their 'manifesto' as it were. I completely disagree but I'm not stupid enough to believe everything the left wing media and 18 year old sussex student protesters spouting their empty rhetoric (like that dork in the stripy tshirt in the laines today!)
[quote][p][bold]Dirk Von Roden[/bold] wrote: I actually saw a friends nephew amongst the edl supporters ! he is always asking for money from him (and gets it!) what he does not realise is his own family background is ruddy Jewish!! his side of the family are pure white but his uncle has olive coloured skin![/p][/quote]The edl marchers were carrying a star of david banner. Lets all drop this Nazi thing once and for all shall we. I am in no way an edl supporter or sympathiser but I have at least taken 5 mins to read their 'manifesto' as it were. I completely disagree but I'm not stupid enough to believe everything the left wing media and 18 year old sussex student protesters spouting their empty rhetoric (like that dork in the stripy tshirt in the laines today!) Hard times

11:58pm Mon 30 Aug 10

Dirk Von Roden says...

sdthetruth wrote:
TheInsider wrote:
You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop.
Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it.
My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way.
Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.
Why don't you give your multiple postings a rest. You are constantly repeating yourself. Are you retarded or something?
SD do not put what you call retards in the same breath of your own you are the fool ! you are a miscreant ! you speak for no one but a measly 30 people (that you could not even get from Brightonians!) so stay at your racist little complex (it sure aint a community) and hide till the next march wherever (when you have another bunch of your little pals that make you feel hard ! cos you as the rest of your friends would not have the bottle to come and talk to true Brightonians!!) actually it may be an idea to take a swift kick up the Gonads as it may show what sexuality you really are!!
[quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop. Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it. My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way. Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.[/p][/quote]Why don't you give your multiple postings a rest. You are constantly repeating yourself. Are you retarded or something?[/p][/quote]SD do not put what you call retards in the same breath of your own you are the fool ! you are a miscreant ! you speak for no one but a measly 30 people (that you could not even get from Brightonians!) so stay at your racist little complex (it sure aint a community) and hide till the next march wherever (when you have another bunch of your little pals that make you feel hard ! cos you as the rest of your friends would not have the bottle to come and talk to true Brightonians!!) actually it may be an idea to take a swift kick up the Gonads as it may show what sexuality you really are!! Dirk Von Roden

12:00am Tue 31 Aug 10

longman says...

A very sad bunch of facists that have nothing better to do than spend a few hours inciting racial hatred and indulging in a bit of policing baiting at the same time. Regardless of nazi salutes or not, they are an insult to the majority of law abiding British people and those who fought to keep facism from this country. I really pity these poor little people and hope that they will eventually have lives free of spite for their fellow man - but I very much doubt it!
A very sad bunch of facists that have nothing better to do than spend a few hours inciting racial hatred and indulging in a bit of policing baiting at the same time. Regardless of nazi salutes or not, they are an insult to the majority of law abiding British people and those who fought to keep facism from this country. I really pity these poor little people and hope that they will eventually have lives free of spite for their fellow man - but I very much doubt it! longman

12:00am Tue 31 Aug 10

Hard times says...

Further to this I am fiercely anti RACist but very anti Islam. Not that these goons share my opinions but I think being scared (and protesting against) all religion is completely valid.
Further to this I am fiercely anti RACist but very anti Islam. Not that these goons share my opinions but I think being scared (and protesting against) all religion is completely valid. Hard times

12:14am Tue 31 Aug 10

Dave in Hastings says...

Kahuna wrote:
TheInsider wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.
That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I
You are underwhelmed with Brighton and you are from Altrincham?
Tw@t! You really are the bigget plonker of anyone who has ever posted on here. Clear off and take your pathetic vile opinions with you. Thankfully the majority will always be against you in Britain.
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.[/p][/quote]That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I[/p][/quote]You are underwhelmed with Brighton and you are from Altrincham? Tw@t! You really are the bigget plonker of anyone who has ever posted on here. Clear off and take your pathetic vile opinions with you. Thankfully the majority will always be against you in Britain. Dave in Hastings

12:14am Tue 31 Aug 10

Mr Lahey says...

Kahuna wrote:
TheInsider wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.
That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I
If EDL + the Anti-Idiot Idiots really care about England, a country very likely to be hit by a double-dip recession, why did they cost the tax payer and the local economy so much money today?
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.[/p][/quote]That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I[/p][/quote]If EDL + the Anti-Idiot Idiots really care about England, a country very likely to be hit by a double-dip recession, why did they cost the tax payer and the local economy so much money today? Mr Lahey

12:15am Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Just Google sdthetruth and The Argus and you will see his multiple rants of a retard.
Any chance to blether on about outsiders, migrants, deportation etc like someone who has never found the bus stop to enable him leave the village and see the world.
Don't be scared sdthetruth. Treat yourself to a trip abroad.
Just Google sdthetruth and The Argus and you will see his multiple rants of a retard. Any chance to blether on about outsiders, migrants, deportation etc like someone who has never found the bus stop to enable him leave the village and see the world. Don't be scared sdthetruth. Treat yourself to a trip abroad. TheInsider

12:15am Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Just Google sdthetruth and The Argus and you will see his multiple rants of a retard.
Any chance to blether on about outsiders, migrants, deportation etc like someone who has never found the bus stop to enable him leave the village and see the world.
Don't be scared sdthetruth. Treat yourself to a trip abroad.
Just Google sdthetruth and The Argus and you will see his multiple rants of a retard. Any chance to blether on about outsiders, migrants, deportation etc like someone who has never found the bus stop to enable him leave the village and see the world. Don't be scared sdthetruth. Treat yourself to a trip abroad. TheInsider

12:18am Tue 31 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

how many edl/ena members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

none, because they all live in eternal darkness!
how many edl/ena members does it take to screw in a lightbulb? none, because they all live in eternal darkness! george 3rd

1:25am Tue 31 Aug 10

mrresonate says...

EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past
EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past mrresonate

7:22am Tue 31 Aug 10

stan bailey says...

Foxes might be safe now, hunting has been banned. However we now have Smash edo after Israel and this lot doing Nazi salutes.
Foxes might be safe now, hunting has been banned. However we now have Smash edo after Israel and this lot doing Nazi salutes. stan bailey

8:04am Tue 31 Aug 10

pun master says...

The way I see it, if you really have a problem with this group then it's better to say nothing than to try to argue against it... The beauty of this country is that, aside from a few recent legislative squeezes, anyone is entitled to air their opinions, palatable or not. The numbers being quoted today seem to highlight the actual level of feeling towards this group, and others, and their opinions. The way I see it, better to let them out in the open so that we can see exactly what they believe, so that I can show my children what miseducation and ignorance can do to a person.... I still cannot get over the irony of English 'Defence League' and their attempts to associate themselves with Churchill et al, when the whole premise of WWII was to battle tyranny and right wing oppression aimed primarily at the Jewish and other minority cultures. Unbelievable ignorance....
The way I see it, if you really have a problem with this group then it's better to say nothing than to try to argue against it... The beauty of this country is that, aside from a few recent legislative squeezes, anyone is entitled to air their opinions, palatable or not. The numbers being quoted today seem to highlight the actual level of feeling towards this group, and others, and their opinions. The way I see it, better to let them out in the open so that we can see exactly what they believe, so that I can show my children what miseducation and ignorance can do to a person.... I still cannot get over the irony of English 'Defence League' and their attempts to associate themselves with Churchill et al, when the whole premise of WWII was to battle tyranny and right wing oppression aimed primarily at the Jewish and other minority cultures. Unbelievable ignorance.... pun master

8:23am Tue 31 Aug 10

jasper3 says...

The new fascism will be anti - fascism. CHURCHILL.
The new fascism will be anti - fascism. CHURCHILL. jasper3

9:00am Tue 31 Aug 10

southwicker says...

Proud to be british...
if that means looking like these butch of smelly dirty lowlifes then no im not proud to be british
if this means wrecking peoples days out overturning bins and smashing up a town then no I am not proud to be british
the scum need to stop having there protests in brighton
you disgusting horriable peasants

British.. my **** arse .............
Proud to be british... if that means looking like these butch of smelly dirty lowlifes then no im not proud to be british if this means wrecking peoples days out overturning bins and smashing up a town then no I am not proud to be british the scum need to stop having there protests in brighton you disgusting horriable peasants British.. my **** arse ............. southwicker

9:02am Tue 31 Aug 10

southwicker says...

Kahuna wrote:
Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country? Is patriotism now a crime? I missed the memo.
they are not patriotic they are wankers
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country? Is patriotism now a crime? I missed the memo.[/p][/quote]they are not patriotic they are wankers southwicker

9:02am Tue 31 Aug 10

southwicker says...

Kahuna wrote:
Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country? Is patriotism now a crime? I missed the memo.
they are not patriotic they are wankers
[quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: Why were those fascists trying to stop those people from holding a march celebrating their country? Is patriotism now a crime? I missed the memo.[/p][/quote]they are not patriotic they are wankers southwicker

9:04am Tue 31 Aug 10

cramp23 says...

Well done to all the people of Brighton who showed this tiny group of thugs that they seriously are not wanted in the city. It was like a walk of shame through town, like something out of medieval times but no rotten fruit being thrown at them. What a joke, i think they wont be coming again :)
Well done to all the people of Brighton who showed this tiny group of thugs that they seriously are not wanted in the city. It was like a walk of shame through town, like something out of medieval times but no rotten fruit being thrown at them. What a joke, i think they wont be coming again :) cramp23

9:28am Tue 31 Aug 10

Ben Martin says...

The only reason the EDL/ENA carry the star of David flag is to inflame Muslims.
Just because they carry this flag does not mean they arent fascists. They, like the nazis, are scapegoating one group, ie muslims, for all societies ills. Look at any of their literature, replace the word muslim with jew, or mosque with synagogue and you'll see the similarities. Its not WHO they victimise it's HOW and WHY.

The EDL and the ENA are facist bigots, there may be some misguided fools who sign up for this deluded paranoid hate-filled bigotry without fully understanding what they're doing. But to mistake the EDL and ENA for harmless proud English would be a mistake, their connections to the the far-right extend throughout the membershjip and leadership.
The only reason the EDL/ENA carry the star of David flag is to inflame Muslims. Just because they carry this flag does not mean they arent fascists. They, like the nazis, are scapegoating one group, ie muslims, for all societies ills. Look at any of their literature, replace the word muslim with jew, or mosque with synagogue and you'll see the similarities. Its not WHO they victimise it's HOW and WHY. The EDL and the ENA are facist bigots, there may be some misguided fools who sign up for this deluded paranoid hate-filled bigotry without fully understanding what they're doing. But to mistake the EDL and ENA for harmless proud English would be a mistake, their connections to the the far-right extend throughout the membershjip and leadership. Ben Martin

9:30am Tue 31 Aug 10

Ben Martin says...

Celebrating Englishness?
Really?

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=aK7n-tP_4
hM
Celebrating Englishness? Really? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=aK7n-tP_4 hM Ben Martin

9:34am Tue 31 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

The sad thing is that a march of 30 nutters would have passed almost unnoticed on a Bank Holiday monday - but the anti-fascist idiots had to do their best to try and turn it into a riot, and used the event to have yet another ruck with the police.
Same old, same old. Smash EDO, etc, etc. Same faces - as reported in The Argus live blog.
Next time let the 30 saddos parade. No one in Brighton gives a toss about them. The ordinary people of Brighton know exactly how to deal with them, without any help from the usual suspects.
The sad thing is that a march of 30 nutters would have passed almost unnoticed on a Bank Holiday monday - but the anti-fascist idiots had to do their best to try and turn it into a riot, and used the event to have yet another ruck with the police. Same old, same old. Smash EDO, etc, etc. Same faces - as reported in The Argus live blog. Next time let the 30 saddos parade. No one in Brighton gives a toss about them. The ordinary people of Brighton know exactly how to deal with them, without any help from the usual suspects. Ballroom Blitz

9:44am Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

The NAZIS and the NAZI apologists still trying to blame everybody else for their Asbo/Chav alliance march?
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, believes the ridiculous line you wankers are promoting regarding being English. It is NOT an English tradition to display NAZI salutes. You can keep flapping your gums, about how harshly you are being treated, as its laughable, especially from the NAZI apologists, and social misfits on these comments pages.
The NAZIS and the NAZI apologists still trying to blame everybody else for their Asbo/Chav alliance march? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, believes the ridiculous line you wankers are promoting regarding being English. It is NOT an English tradition to display NAZI salutes. You can keep flapping your gums, about how harshly you are being treated, as its laughable, especially from the NAZI apologists, and social misfits on these comments pages. daveinprague

9:48am Tue 31 Aug 10

OfHumanBondage says...

''next time let the 30 saddos parade''? Why should asian, muslim and left wing people from anti-war to peace acitivists (who this march specifically aimed to target) be allowed to march and attempt to intimidate people? These people werent even from brighton but think they can come down here and march through our streets to 'put us in our place' as they refer to it. Well we showed yesterday that they put noone in their place, they had to be constantly protected by the police (at all of our expense). And if anyone is convinced that the EDL are not racist, well watch this footage from Bradford: http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=VIr3HV-Tu
Os You might also do a job in explaining why they were marching in bradford in the first place if their claims to not be racist and opposed to muslims is true? Utter garbage, these people are racist through and through. Note the nazi salutes too. This article in the argus is also disgraceful in that it just mimics the police line - in fact members of the UAF demo were arrested for nothing (e.g. for ''walking too slowly'' or for having an air horn) and were not even interviewed but were kept in custody all day - so much for the freedom and right to protest that they are quoted as saying? Guess thats just the freedom and right to protest for racists then? Also the police completely failed to protect the public as they assured they would do- they marched these fascists back up to the station and then allowed them to disperse knowing full well that these people had put on their website that after their march they 'wanted to have fun with the locals' and look for muslims. The police were far more concerned with attacking the ANTI-RACISTS than the RACISTS. Disgrace that they are.
''next time let the 30 saddos parade''? Why should asian, muslim and left wing people from anti-war to peace acitivists (who this march specifically aimed to target) be allowed to march and attempt to intimidate people? These people werent even from brighton but think they can come down here and march through our streets to 'put us in our place' as they refer to it. Well we showed yesterday that they put noone in their place, they had to be constantly protected by the police (at all of our expense). And if anyone is convinced that the EDL are not racist, well watch this footage from Bradford: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=VIr3HV-Tu Os You might also do a job in explaining why they were marching in bradford in the first place if their claims to not be racist and opposed to muslims is true? Utter garbage, these people are racist through and through. Note the nazi salutes too. This article in the argus is also disgraceful in that it just mimics the police line - in fact members of the UAF demo were arrested for nothing (e.g. for ''walking too slowly'' or for having an air horn) and were not even interviewed but were kept in custody all day - so much for the freedom and right to protest that they are quoted as saying? Guess thats just the freedom and right to protest for racists then? Also the police completely failed to protect the public as they assured they would do- they marched these fascists back up to the station and then allowed them to disperse knowing full well that these people had put on their website that after their march they 'wanted to have fun with the locals' and look for muslims. The police were far more concerned with attacking the ANTI-RACISTS than the RACISTS. Disgrace that they are. OfHumanBondage

9:51am Tue 31 Aug 10

OfHumanBondage says...

The second sentence of what i wrote should read: why should asian, muslim and left wing people be intimidated by these people being allowed a free reign to march with no opposition.
The second sentence of what i wrote should read: why should asian, muslim and left wing people be intimidated by these people being allowed a free reign to march with no opposition. OfHumanBondage

9:51am Tue 31 Aug 10

OfHumanBondage says...

The second sentence of what i wrote should read: why should asian, muslim and left wing people be intimidated by these people being allowed a free reign to march with no opposition.
The second sentence of what i wrote should read: why should asian, muslim and left wing people be intimidated by these people being allowed a free reign to march with no opposition. OfHumanBondage

10:25am Tue 31 Aug 10

lee paul says...

Coor, that EDL lot are a bunch of dullards aren't they. Haven't they got anything better to do than go round places having a go at other people. Saddo's-feel sorry for em, the need a hobby for future bank holidays like water colours or scaletrix.
Coor, that EDL lot are a bunch of dullards aren't they. Haven't they got anything better to do than go round places having a go at other people. Saddo's-feel sorry for em, the need a hobby for future bank holidays like water colours or scaletrix. lee paul

10:54am Tue 31 Aug 10

mrresonate says...

EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past
EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past mrresonate

11:02am Tue 31 Aug 10

Lunchtime O'Booze says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
The sad thing is that a march of 30 nutters would have passed almost unnoticed on a Bank Holiday monday - but the anti-fascist idiots had to do their best to try and turn it into a riot, and used the event to have yet another ruck with the police.
Same old, same old. Smash EDO, etc, etc. Same faces - as reported in The Argus live blog.
Next time let the 30 saddos parade. No one in Brighton gives a toss about them. The ordinary people of Brighton know exactly how to deal with them, without any help from the usual suspects.
HEAR! HEAR!
All the lefties Nutters and extremists as usual..GET A JOB!
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: The sad thing is that a march of 30 nutters would have passed almost unnoticed on a Bank Holiday monday - but the anti-fascist idiots had to do their best to try and turn it into a riot, and used the event to have yet another ruck with the police. Same old, same old. Smash EDO, etc, etc. Same faces - as reported in The Argus live blog. Next time let the 30 saddos parade. No one in Brighton gives a toss about them. The ordinary people of Brighton know exactly how to deal with them, without any help from the usual suspects.[/p][/quote]HEAR! HEAR! All the lefties Nutters and extremists as usual..GET A JOB! Lunchtime O'Booze

11:18am Tue 31 Aug 10

den friend says...

I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL.
I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.
I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics. den friend

11:23am Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

A few morons still flapping their gums about the anti fascists work credentials, despite it being a public holiday, but lets face it, NAZI apologists are not that bright.

It would be interesting to know how many of the EDL marchers had employment. Im sure there would have been a healthy number of convictions among them, but I doubt many jobs.

So, now the unemployed, criminal classes are marching for what? Representation? lol Give me a break.
A few morons still flapping their gums about the anti fascists work credentials, despite it being a public holiday, but lets face it, NAZI apologists are not that bright. It would be interesting to know how many of the EDL marchers had employment. Im sure there would have been a healthy number of convictions among them, but I doubt many jobs. So, now the unemployed, criminal classes are marching for what? Representation? lol Give me a break. daveinprague

11:42am Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Working class? I don't think that's a fair phrase to use den friend.
The majority of UK citizens are working class as they have to work to live. That makes most of us working class.
However, there is an underclass of people in the UK and these are the small numbers of people who leave school without any formal qualifications or and vocational skills are now finding themselves unemployed long-term. They also have poor social skills which make them difficult place in employment.
Even manual labour jobs require the workers to have 'levels of customer service' understanding.
Unfortunately, the UK has moved away from manufacturing where these men and women would traditionally work and the country has moved into the service industry sector. The service industry sector relies on people being reasonably articulate, understanding of social manners, well presented, basic levels of written and verbal communication etc.
I spent a few years working with long-term unemployed people who had never worked and part of our job was to teach them how to dress, how to conduct themselves, even personal hygiene (teeth etc), advice on where to get crowns fitted etc. This is why my earlier comments were about the way they present in public. It is so important in the 21st century when we are all competing with a much wider market.
Up until the 1970s, people always owned a Sunday best set of clothes(suit and a pair of shoes) and now people don't even have that. We had young men turning up in football shirts and tatty trainers with teeth missing hoping for a job on the fish counter in a supermarket or even a warehouse.
We would buy clothes and shoes from Asda so these men and women could try for interviews.
These people have been failed by Govts who do not understand that these people leave school without basic social abilities when we are in a customer facing world.
Working class? I don't think that's a fair phrase to use den friend. The majority of UK citizens are working class as they have to work to live. That makes most of us working class. However, there is an underclass of people in the UK and these are the small numbers of people who leave school without any formal qualifications or and vocational skills are now finding themselves unemployed long-term. They also have poor social skills which make them difficult place in employment. Even manual labour jobs require the workers to have 'levels of customer service' understanding. Unfortunately, the UK has moved away from manufacturing where these men and women would traditionally work and the country has moved into the service industry sector. The service industry sector relies on people being reasonably articulate, understanding of social manners, well presented, basic levels of written and verbal communication etc. I spent a few years working with long-term unemployed people who had never worked and part of our job was to teach them how to dress, how to conduct themselves, even personal hygiene (teeth etc), advice on where to get crowns fitted etc. This is why my earlier comments were about the way they present in public. It is so important in the 21st century when we are all competing with a much wider market. Up until the 1970s, people always owned a Sunday best set of clothes(suit and a pair of shoes) and now people don't even have that. We had young men turning up in football shirts and tatty trainers with teeth missing hoping for a job on the fish counter in a supermarket or even a warehouse. We would buy clothes and shoes from Asda so these men and women could try for interviews. These people have been failed by Govts who do not understand that these people leave school without basic social abilities when we are in a customer facing world. TheInsider

11:53am Tue 31 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

TheInsider wrote:
You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop.
Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it.
My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way.
Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.
No that wasn't the reason. Sorry.

Did your 'missus' also say that they smell of poo poo?

Your immaturity does you no favours.

I suppose if you've never been anywhere else then Brighton might be ok.
When you've seen as much of the world as I have then sheer dullness of Brighton is all too apparent.

Plenty of places are as dull as Brighton, just that they seem to realise. Like Preston, a city on a par with Brighton but very few Prestonians have quite the distorted perception of their city that many Brightonians do.

Seriously renton, treat your bioyfriend to a foreign holiday next year.
You might enjoy it.
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: You are underwhelmed as you don't understand modern Britain or Brighton and that's why your little march was a flop. Stick to Altrincham, it's actually very much like the model village I mentioned. Google it. My missus also says she doesn't mind being called a bloke as she is a nurse and she says she gets called a lot worse by poeple like those in the photos of today's march when they turn up following some benefit day boozy punch up. She also just said that mutton heads like the ones in the photos are always the ones who cry and moan like a load of babies for the least little injury when they end up in hospital, but they seem very keen on taking their medicine the German way. Brighton and Hove, the best place in the world and the least interested in the flop of a march.[/p][/quote]No that wasn't the reason. Sorry. Did your 'missus' also say that they smell of poo poo? Your immaturity does you no favours. I suppose if you've never been anywhere else then Brighton might be ok. When you've seen as much of the world as I have then sheer dullness of Brighton is all too apparent. Plenty of places are as dull as Brighton, just that they seem to realise. Like Preston, a city on a par with Brighton but very few Prestonians have quite the distorted perception of their city that many Brightonians do. Seriously renton, treat your bioyfriend to a foreign holiday next year. You might enjoy it. Kahuna

11:56am Tue 31 Aug 10

sussexladybabe says...

All the posts from the left and right wingers here are embarrassing to say the least. Then there are the "multicultural" do gooders and the true Brightonians!

Well being born here in B&H makes no difference and "Multicultural" is really a game known as "anti-British or English" (never anti-Scottish, Welsh or Irish!). The fact is that white Britons make up 90% of the population and the majority of these hold on to the British way of life and its culture. Also most reject those who are unpatriotic to the country.

Racism is unacceptable in British society but equally so are those who are unpatriotic and wish to bring down our way of life that our fore fathers fought for in WW2.

The last Labour government repealed the Treason Laws so that our way of life could be undermined more easily. These laws should be reinstated as soon as possible.
All the posts from the left and right wingers here are embarrassing to say the least. Then there are the "multicultural" do gooders and the true Brightonians! Well being born here in B&H makes no difference and "Multicultural" is really a game known as "anti-British or English" (never anti-Scottish, Welsh or Irish!). The fact is that white Britons make up 90% of the population and the majority of these hold on to the British way of life and its culture. Also most reject those who are unpatriotic to the country. Racism is unacceptable in British society but equally so are those who are unpatriotic and wish to bring down our way of life that our fore fathers fought for in WW2. The last Labour government repealed the Treason Laws so that our way of life could be undermined more easily. These laws should be reinstated as soon as possible. sussexladybabe

11:58am Tue 31 Aug 10

garyscott says...

lee paul wrote:
Coor, that EDL lot are a bunch of dullards aren't they. Haven't they got anything better to do than go round places having a go at other people. Saddo's-feel sorry for em, the need a hobby for future bank holidays like water colours or scaletrix.
Didn't see any of them having a go at anyone and in fact they had a peaceful protest unlike the unwashed scum trying to stop them - they were only there because the benefits office were closed...
[quote][p][bold]lee paul[/bold] wrote: Coor, that EDL lot are a bunch of dullards aren't they. Haven't they got anything better to do than go round places having a go at other people. Saddo's-feel sorry for em, the need a hobby for future bank holidays like water colours or scaletrix.[/p][/quote]Didn't see any of them having a go at anyone and in fact they had a peaceful protest unlike the unwashed scum trying to stop them - they were only there because the benefits office were closed... garyscott

12:10pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

Mr Lahey wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
TheInsider wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.
That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I
If EDL + the Anti-Idiot Idiots really care about England, a country very likely to be hit by a double-dip recession, why did they cost the tax payer and the local economy so much money today?
The bill would've been a lot less if there were no counter protesters.

In fact there would've been no bill at all.

Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Lahey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kahuna[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: oh do stop rambling on Kahuna. We are not interested in this type of thing here. We are a world-renowned city, known for its multi-culturism, fashion, music and modern attitdues. The turn out for this event clearly shows that Brighton and Hove isn't interested and you can ramble on as long responding to every post, but the fact is, no-one turned out. Just get over it. The world and England is a diverse and different place from where you want it to be. Try Bekonscot Model Village, its a representation of an England you might like. PS My missus put some clothes out in a charity bag tonight if you want them. I'll throw a toothbrush in as well. We tend to use them twice a day down here.[/p][/quote]That's just the thing about Brighton though. The residents are enormously impressed with it yet everyone I know who's visited (myself included) has been incredibly underwhelmed. They also talk of it being this incredibly multi-cultural city when the fact is is that macclesfield has more diversity. All in all a very dull city filled with dull people congratulating themselves on their non-existent diversity. Really odd. Why have you called your boyfriend 'missus'. Anyway as he's put out the clothes I take it he's the 'giver' in all areas of his life. Have fun sweet cheeks. Let's see if he can make you less stressed. I[/p][/quote]If EDL + the Anti-Idiot Idiots really care about England, a country very likely to be hit by a double-dip recession, why did they cost the tax payer and the local economy so much money today?[/p][/quote]The bill would've been a lot less if there were no counter protesters. In fact there would've been no bill at all. Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms. Kahuna

12:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Ah the NAZI sympathisers want people to believe that the marchers were ...what...Buddhists? lol

'Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms'

Not fascists, citizens exercising their right to counter demonstrate.


Keep flapping your gums NAZIS, its an education in watching stupidity.
Ah the NAZI sympathisers want people to believe that the marchers were ...what...Buddhists? lol 'Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms' Not fascists, citizens exercising their right to counter demonstrate. Keep flapping your gums NAZIS, its an education in watching stupidity. daveinprague

12:16pm Tue 31 Aug 10

patties says...

For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years.

The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league.
I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law. patties

12:20pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

daveinprague wrote:
Ah the NAZI sympathisers want people to believe that the marchers were ...what...Buddhists? lol

'Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms'

Not fascists, citizens exercising their right to counter demonstrate.


Keep flapping your gums NAZIS, its an education in watching stupidity.
Counter demonstrations are ok. Fighting with the police, intimidating children, scaring innocent shoppers isn't.

What an awful sight the unwashed were yesterday. A true disgrace to English values.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: Ah the NAZI sympathisers want people to believe that the marchers were ...what...Buddhists? lol 'Have a word with the fascists who were trying to impede democratic freedoms' Not fascists, citizens exercising their right to counter demonstrate. Keep flapping your gums NAZIS, its an education in watching stupidity.[/p][/quote]Counter demonstrations are ok. Fighting with the police, intimidating children, scaring innocent shoppers isn't. What an awful sight the unwashed were yesterday. A true disgrace to English values. Kahuna

12:23pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Where in the UK is EXTREME Islamic law in place?
Another NAZI telling porkies.
Where in the UK is EXTREME Islamic law in place? Another NAZI telling porkies. daveinprague

12:24pm Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Kahuna as you will see from most of the posters here, we in Brighton don't accept your politics.
I work all over the world, mainly Europe now but have been in SE Asia, South America and even in Argentina just after the 'Malvinas' war when it was a bit hairy to be a British citizen there.
Every country faces the same challenges as the UK and every country has groups of angry, disenfranchised people such as those in the march.
But change cannot be stopped as the Chinese, the Burmese and the North Koreans are discovering.
Technology has broken boundaries which cannot be put back up.
Look at Russia and how successful it has become since pulling down the Iron Curtain and accepting change and the global envrionment that we live in.
It's too late mate. The young UK people don't even understand what you are talking about. They are native to a multi-cultural Britain, even if you remember it before this level of integration, therefore you can never turn the clocks back.
Kahuna as you will see from most of the posters here, we in Brighton don't accept your politics. I work all over the world, mainly Europe now but have been in SE Asia, South America and even in Argentina just after the 'Malvinas' war when it was a bit hairy to be a British citizen there. Every country faces the same challenges as the UK and every country has groups of angry, disenfranchised people such as those in the march. But change cannot be stopped as the Chinese, the Burmese and the North Koreans are discovering. Technology has broken boundaries which cannot be put back up. Look at Russia and how successful it has become since pulling down the Iron Curtain and accepting change and the global envrionment that we live in. It's too late mate. The young UK people don't even understand what you are talking about. They are native to a multi-cultural Britain, even if you remember it before this level of integration, therefore you can never turn the clocks back. TheInsider

12:27pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

The counter protestors gave this march a level of importance which it never deserved.
If it had been met by utter indifference by the residents of B&H do you think they would ever bother coming back?
They achieved their aim - solely because they managed to provoke the leftie dimwits into their usual display of fighting with the police - dressed up as righteous indignation.
It was just an excuse for a bundle. So childish. Don't pretend it was anything else. Mods and rockers for the 21st century. Nothing changes.
The counter protestors gave this march a level of importance which it never deserved. If it had been met by utter indifference by the residents of B&H do you think they would ever bother coming back? They achieved their aim - solely because they managed to provoke the leftie dimwits into their usual display of fighting with the police - dressed up as righteous indignation. It was just an excuse for a bundle. So childish. Don't pretend it was anything else. Mods and rockers for the 21st century. Nothing changes. Ballroom Blitz

12:29pm Tue 31 Aug 10

magoo says...

There are clearly idiots on both sides, but what I really object to is an Albion flag being used.

The club should very quickly distance themselves from the group.
There are clearly idiots on both sides, but what I really object to is an Albion flag being used. The club should very quickly distance themselves from the group. magoo

12:31pm Tue 31 Aug 10

NotGreen says...

I quite agree. The Smash EDO thugs should also be banned.
I quite agree. The Smash EDO thugs should also be banned. NotGreen

12:32pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

patties wrote:
For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton.
Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.
[quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express. Ballroom Blitz

12:42pm Tue 31 Aug 10

cloclo2 says...

So I come to Brighton for the day, which usually to me is a lovely place to come, and I find what? A bunch of racists “marching” through the streets. What do these people think they are going to achieve by doing it? Its pathetic to be quite frank. All they want to do is cause trouble. And bringing their children along for the ride is sick, and that's even an understatement. Nobody's listening to them. I have never seen such an "angry protest" in my life either. As far as I'm concerned the lot of them should be arrested for public order, because all of them made others feel threatened or alarmed. Overdramatic? I think not. Think about all that wasted money. And they'll be the first to moan when there's cut backs. Think, all that money spent on the police officers (on a bank holiday), would've paid for at least probably three classrooms to be completely
rennovated. What gives them the right to make our childrens futures less bright because they decided that they were going to do cause trouble for a day?

Get over yourselves. If you want to make a statement, set up a website and stop wasting peoples time and money. Nobody will look at it anyway.
So I come to Brighton for the day, which usually to me is a lovely place to come, and I find what? A bunch of racists “marching” through the streets. What do these people think they are going to achieve by doing it? Its pathetic to be quite frank. All they want to do is cause trouble. And bringing their children along for the ride is sick, and that's even an understatement. Nobody's listening to them. I have never seen such an "angry protest" in my life either. As far as I'm concerned the lot of them should be arrested for public order, because all of them made others feel threatened or alarmed. Overdramatic? I think not. Think about all that wasted money. And they'll be the first to moan when there's cut backs. Think, all that money spent on the police officers (on a bank holiday), would've paid for at least probably three classrooms to be completely rennovated. What gives them the right to make our childrens futures less bright because they decided that they were going to do cause trouble for a day? Get over yourselves. If you want to make a statement, set up a website and stop wasting peoples time and money. Nobody will look at it anyway. cloclo2

12:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10

I love Brighton says...

EDL, ENA and BNP are just stupid anagrams used as label for the weak, lazy, unintelligent and old-of-date people who are unable to realise that their attitude, rather, their lack of it is costing so much to the government, that the only solution is to welcoming foreigners to come and work here in order to keep this already broken economy going. Instead of spending hours on the Internet gossiping and talking rubbish, they should go and visit the central library (which is kept and maintained by tax payer), read more, learn another language, explore different cultures, do something useful with their brain...in short: they should bear in mind that they are not being as English as they claim to be.
Also they should start brushing their teeth and having a better diet: their looks are so unhealthy.
EDL, ENA and BNP are just stupid anagrams used as label for the weak, lazy, unintelligent and old-of-date people who are unable to realise that their attitude, rather, their lack of it is costing so much to the government, that the only solution is to welcoming foreigners to come and work here in order to keep this already broken economy going. Instead of spending hours on the Internet gossiping and talking rubbish, they should go and visit the central library (which is kept and maintained by tax payer), read more, learn another language, explore different cultures, do something useful with their brain...in short: they should bear in mind that they are not being as English as they claim to be. Also they should start brushing their teeth and having a better diet: their looks are so unhealthy. I love Brighton

12:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10

cheezburger says...

One of the funniest things about this 'march' (although a march is usually a proud thing but this shower looked anything but) is how they were supposedly going to The Steine but got lost. They started off down Trafalgar Street and then went through a side street because they didnt know the way. And you know why that is? Because they dont come from Brighton. They really did look funny, all bald heads and no teeth. They have done nothing to be proud of. The England they talk of doesnt exist. EDL you are a laughing stock.
One of the funniest things about this 'march' (although a march is usually a proud thing but this shower looked anything but) is how they were supposedly going to The Steine but got lost. They started off down Trafalgar Street and then went through a side street because they didnt know the way. And you know why that is? Because they dont come from Brighton. They really did look funny, all bald heads and no teeth. They have done nothing to be proud of. The England they talk of doesnt exist. EDL you are a laughing stock. cheezburger

12:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mark by the sea says...

den friend wrote:
I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.
you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea.
[quote][p][bold]den friend[/bold] wrote: I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.[/p][/quote]you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea. mark by the sea

1:01pm Tue 31 Aug 10

anonymous coward says...

Larry Taylor is a troll. Don't encourage him. He'll back at school soon.

I'm not sure if patties is a troll, it's scary to think it could be an adult. Either way, I hope it's back to school soon, too.
Larry Taylor is a troll. Don't encourage him. He'll back at school soon. I'm not sure if patties is a troll, it's scary to think it could be an adult. Either way, I hope it's back to school soon, too. anonymous coward

1:01pm Tue 31 Aug 10

den friend says...

patties wrote:
For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years.

The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league.
I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
Patties
We live in a democracy. You displayed your right to protest yesterday, as did we who opposed you. The Muslims who protested in Luton were also entitled to demonstrate, even if you did not agree with them. You don't know if they were on benefits, any more than if I know if you are on benefits. It doesn't really matter does it? Just for a minute, can you imagine if it was your country that had been invaded illegally and 100,000 of your people had been killed, how would you be feeling? What would your reaction be? Their protest was not aimed at individual soldiers, but at the war. You need to look at the real culprits in creating an economic crises with no investment in social housing, failing schools, poor people getting poorer. It's not immigrants fault, it's the government and we're all in the same leaky boat!
[quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]Patties We live in a democracy. You displayed your right to protest yesterday, as did we who opposed you. The Muslims who protested in Luton were also entitled to demonstrate, even if you did not agree with them. You don't know if they were on benefits, any more than if I know if you are on benefits. It doesn't really matter does it? Just for a minute, can you imagine if it was your country that had been invaded illegally and 100,000 of your people had been killed, how would you be feeling? What would your reaction be? Their protest was not aimed at individual soldiers, but at the war. You need to look at the real culprits in creating an economic crises with no investment in social housing, failing schools, poor people getting poorer. It's not immigrants fault, it's the government and we're all in the same leaky boat! den friend

1:03pm Tue 31 Aug 10

patties says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
patties wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.
Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.[/p][/quote]Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter. patties

1:07pm Tue 31 Aug 10

als40 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
den friend wrote:
I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.
you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea.
A lot of people are let down by our corrupt system and are under-represented, but this is not the fault of immigrants. There should be social housing for everyone who needs it and this is not a dream or pie in the sky, it was the actual state of affairs before the right-wing Thatcher government flogged off our council houses. The answer to the lack of social housing is not to throw immigrants on the street but to build more social housing.
More social housing should have been builit by New Labour in the boom times and that they didn't is shameful, but the tories could still do so now. How about the recession? Well construction projects are one of the best ways of creating jobs for the unemployed and getting consumer spending back on track.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]den friend[/bold] wrote: I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.[/p][/quote]you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea.[/p][/quote]A lot of people are let down by our corrupt system and are under-represented, but this is not the fault of immigrants. There should be social housing for everyone who needs it and this is not a dream or pie in the sky, it was the actual state of affairs before the right-wing Thatcher government flogged off our council houses. The answer to the lack of social housing is not to throw immigrants on the street but to build more social housing. More social housing should have been builit by New Labour in the boom times and that they didn't is shameful, but the tories could still do so now. How about the recession? Well construction projects are one of the best ways of creating jobs for the unemployed and getting consumer spending back on track. als40

1:19pm Tue 31 Aug 10

RickH says...

garyscott wrote:
intheknowlad wrote: Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx
why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol
And that says it all really - a racsist and a homophobe to boot. Whilst intheknowlad may not drink there, I do and am sick of little jerks like you who think us gay boys are a target for ridicule - one day the wheel of karma will turn and dump a huge load of s**t your way (thats if someone doesn't give you a well-deserved smack in the face first!)
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx[/p][/quote]why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol[/p][/quote]And that says it all really - a racsist and a homophobe to boot. Whilst intheknowlad may not drink there, I do and am sick of little jerks like you who think us gay boys are a target for ridicule - one day the wheel of karma will turn and dump a huge load of s**t your way (thats if someone doesn't give you a well-deserved smack in the face first!) RickH

1:19pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

patties wrote:
Ballroom Blitz wrote:
patties wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.
Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.
I said where's the evidence in Brighton - not where's the evidence in Whitechapel - and of course there's no evidence of any such thing in Brighton. But as always with bigots like you, you will always dodge a direct question if it doesn't suit you.
If you think there's a problem in Whitechapel, go and march there, and leave us in peace.
[quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.[/p][/quote]Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.[/p][/quote]I said where's the evidence in Brighton - not where's the evidence in Whitechapel - and of course there's no evidence of any such thing in Brighton. But as always with bigots like you, you will always dodge a direct question if it doesn't suit you. If you think there's a problem in Whitechapel, go and march there, and leave us in peace. Ballroom Blitz

1:26pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

patties wrote:
Ballroom Blitz wrote:
patties wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.
Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.
Your lack of grammar and spelling betrays your ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.[/p][/quote]Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.[/p][/quote]Your lack of grammar and spelling betrays your ignorance. Ballroom Blitz

1:38pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Kahuna says...

TheInsider wrote:
Kahuna as you will see from most of the posters here, we in Brighton don't accept your politics.
I work all over the world, mainly Europe now but have been in SE Asia, South America and even in Argentina just after the 'Malvinas' war when it was a bit hairy to be a British citizen there.
Every country faces the same challenges as the UK and every country has groups of angry, disenfranchised people such as those in the march.
But change cannot be stopped as the Chinese, the Burmese and the North Koreans are discovering.
Technology has broken boundaries which cannot be put back up.
Look at Russia and how successful it has become since pulling down the Iron Curtain and accepting change and the global envrionment that we live in.
It's too late mate. The young UK people don't even understand what you are talking about. They are native to a multi-cultural Britain, even if you remember it before this level of integration, therefore you can never turn the clocks back.
Not really sure what your point is or how it relates to fascists preventing English citizens from holding a legal march.

Back on the smack, no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: Kahuna as you will see from most of the posters here, we in Brighton don't accept your politics. I work all over the world, mainly Europe now but have been in SE Asia, South America and even in Argentina just after the 'Malvinas' war when it was a bit hairy to be a British citizen there. Every country faces the same challenges as the UK and every country has groups of angry, disenfranchised people such as those in the march. But change cannot be stopped as the Chinese, the Burmese and the North Koreans are discovering. Technology has broken boundaries which cannot be put back up. Look at Russia and how successful it has become since pulling down the Iron Curtain and accepting change and the global envrionment that we live in. It's too late mate. The young UK people don't even understand what you are talking about. They are native to a multi-cultural Britain, even if you remember it before this level of integration, therefore you can never turn the clocks back.[/p][/quote]Not really sure what your point is or how it relates to fascists preventing English citizens from holding a legal march. Back on the smack, no doubt. Kahuna

1:38pm Tue 31 Aug 10

noodlers says...

It's interesting that the only people arrested were the supposedly non-violent anti-fascists. I suspect that many anti-fascists love a bit of aggro as much as the fascists.

Surely a clever response to these marches, and one fitting their nature, would be a city-wide silence, where everyone agrees to stay home, stay silent or (literally) turn their backs on the fascists.

I'm sure the fascists would soon become incandescent with rage once they realised nobody gave two sh1ts about their March of Ill-Health or whatever it's called.

Thanks to the anti-fascists, the police are attacked, arrests are made and The Argus has a story. If the anti-fascists can bear to forego a counter-march and a bit of bottle-throwing the fascists might be deprived the oxygen they crave.
It's interesting that the only people arrested were the supposedly non-violent anti-fascists. I suspect that many anti-fascists love a bit of aggro as much as the fascists. Surely a clever response to these marches, and one fitting their nature, would be a city-wide silence, where everyone agrees to stay home, stay silent or (literally) turn their backs on the fascists. I'm sure the fascists would soon become incandescent with rage once they realised nobody gave two sh1ts about their March of Ill-Health or whatever it's called. Thanks to the anti-fascists, the police are attacked, arrests are made and The Argus has a story. If the anti-fascists can bear to forego a counter-march and a bit of bottle-throwing the fascists might be deprived the oxygen they crave. noodlers

1:44pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

I think the funniest part of this Chav/Asbo Alliance march is the assumption that the marchers are employed.


And the NAZIS continue to keep lying on these comments pages. TRUE TO FORM.
I think the funniest part of this Chav/Asbo Alliance march is the assumption that the marchers are employed. And the NAZIS continue to keep lying on these comments pages. TRUE TO FORM. daveinprague

1:44pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Number Six says...

patties wrote:
Ballroom Blitz wrote:
patties wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.
And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.
Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.
Now I've seen it all. A patriot who can't even spell the name of their own country properly. Or is there a post invoiving Fern that I missed.

So why were you protesting in Brighton and not Whitechapel?
[quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]patties[/bold] wrote: For years we have sat and watched these Jihadists threaten us with slogans such as "Behead those who insult Islam" and "UK, your 9/11 is coming" to name just two of the thousands of such threats made against our country and way of life in recent years. The final straw came when the brave soldiers of the Royal Anglian Regiment returned to Luton from duty in Basra, Iraq. Many of them had lost friends serving their country, and of course a number of families have lost loved ones who served in the Regiment. When they arrived back in Luton, they were greeted by an absolutely disgusting display as Muslim extremists called them ‘child killers’ and ‘butchers’ and mocked their dead comrades. The police took more action against the patriotic people of Luton who confronted these vile specimens than they did against the extremists, who spew their hate against this country and our soldiers while living off benefits kindly provided for them by us, the taxpayers. This, then, led to the formation of the of the English Defence league. I marched yesterday along with my wife and daughter,i don't live on a council estate and i do work as most of us do,i think some people of Brighton should be ashamed of themselves as the constant chants of nazi scum eggs being thrown and being spat at. I think the police done a fantastic job protecting us oh and by the way how many of us were arrested by the end of the march none. How many UAF 4 at the last count, obviously you nothing about what the E D L stands for we are not racist it's about extreme islamic law.[/p][/quote]And where's the evidence of this 'extreme islamic law' on the streets of Brighton. Do tell us, please. I think you have been reading the Daily Express.[/p][/quote]Maybe some residents of Brighton should take their heads out of the sand and look at other cities around Britton where the E D L have been welcomed,you should take a walk around whitechaple sometime or is it a case of i don't live their so it does'nt matter.[/p][/quote]Now I've seen it all. A patriot who can't even spell the name of their own country properly. Or is there a post invoiving Fern that I missed. So why were you protesting in Brighton and not Whitechapel? Number Six

1:55pm Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

Patties cannot even spell the country he lives in.
It is Britain not Britton.
Patties cannot even spell the country he lives in. It is Britain not Britton. TheInsider

2:14pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Next Event:

EDL demand English language tuition.

March will gather at BRYTON staysion.
Next Event: EDL demand English language tuition. March will gather at BRYTON staysion. daveinprague

2:28pm Tue 31 Aug 10

TheInsider says...

It is also Whitechapel not Whitechaple.
For goodness sake Patties if you love England please learn to love the great English language first.
It is also Whitechapel not Whitechaple. For goodness sake Patties if you love England please learn to love the great English language first. TheInsider

2:36pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mark by the sea says...

als40 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
den friend wrote: I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.
you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea.
A lot of people are let down by our corrupt system and are under-represented, but this is not the fault of immigrants. There should be social housing for everyone who needs it and this is not a dream or pie in the sky, it was the actual state of affairs before the right-wing Thatcher government flogged off our council houses. The answer to the lack of social housing is not to throw immigrants on the street but to build more social housing. More social housing should have been builit by New Labour in the boom times and that they didn't is shameful, but the tories could still do so now. How about the recession? Well construction projects are one of the best ways of creating jobs for the unemployed and getting consumer spending back on track.
agreed , but a endless row of social housing wont happen, what must happen is the people born here, who need housing should be housed first, in that statement i include all people.. whatever there religion or colour.. when that happens and its transparent for all to see, we will have a fair and decent policy for the people born here.
[quote][p][bold]als40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]den friend[/bold] wrote: I was on the counter demo yesterday and spoke with a couple of the EDL. I feel quite sorry for them, they seemed in the most part uneducated and therefore their prospects limited. Of course they hold immigrants responsible for everything; lack of jobs, lack of social housing, lack of opportunity. These people are disenfranchised from politics, they feel disempowered and unrepresented. We need to do address that, as I believe that is why more working class people are joining groups like the EDL, who capitalise on the growing dissatisfaction and disillusionment of main stream politics.[/p][/quote]you have it spot on, they are a rising voice in the english youth of today, and thats because they feel unrepresented, i know of couples on the housing list in brighton for two years, and social housing given to immigrants, this is the one issue i agree with the right wing.. social housing for british people, that includes all colours all nationalities. but people gaining housing when they arrive is the burning issue for many in this country, ignoring it is a bad idea.[/p][/quote]A lot of people are let down by our corrupt system and are under-represented, but this is not the fault of immigrants. There should be social housing for everyone who needs it and this is not a dream or pie in the sky, it was the actual state of affairs before the right-wing Thatcher government flogged off our council houses. The answer to the lack of social housing is not to throw immigrants on the street but to build more social housing. More social housing should have been builit by New Labour in the boom times and that they didn't is shameful, but the tories could still do so now. How about the recession? Well construction projects are one of the best ways of creating jobs for the unemployed and getting consumer spending back on track.[/p][/quote]agreed , but a endless row of social housing wont happen, what must happen is the people born here, who need housing should be housed first, in that statement i include all people.. whatever there religion or colour.. when that happens and its transparent for all to see, we will have a fair and decent policy for the people born here. mark by the sea

2:45pm Tue 31 Aug 10

den friend says...

I know someone who works in the 'homeless' section of Brighton and Hove City Council. She tells me thatthe council rent back houses from people who bought their council houses. They pay £220 a week to house people who, for whatever reason have no home. That same house would have cost a family in social housing £80 a week. Who's fault? What is transparent is that people who own ex council houses are doing very nicely thank you and people who need cheap social housing are deprived of affordable homes, whether they are white, Black or Asian.
I know someone who works in the 'homeless' section of Brighton and Hove City Council. She tells me thatthe council rent back houses from people who bought their council houses. They pay £220 a week to house people who, for whatever reason have no home. That same house would have cost a family in social housing £80 a week. Who's fault? What is transparent is that people who own ex council houses are doing very nicely thank you and people who need cheap social housing are deprived of affordable homes, whether they are white, Black or Asian. den friend

2:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mark by the sea says...

den friend wrote:
I know someone who works in the 'homeless' section of Brighton and Hove City Council. She tells me thatthe council rent back houses from people who bought their council houses. They pay £220 a week to house people who, for whatever reason have no home. That same house would have cost a family in social housing £80 a week. Who's fault? What is transparent is that people who own ex council houses are doing very nicely thank you and people who need cheap social housing are deprived of affordable homes, whether they are white, Black or Asian.
your harking on about a policy that was in the late 80s? i totally agree with you about landlords getting fortunes for poor property.. but fairness in a housing list is about looking after someone who has been on the list longer than a family just landed from africa, italy, poland, australia, the colour of the people jumping the queue does not help young families, who are cramped in hotel or rubbish housing. time this country put its people first or we will see more marches by the disenfrachised!
[quote][p][bold]den friend[/bold] wrote: I know someone who works in the 'homeless' section of Brighton and Hove City Council. She tells me thatthe council rent back houses from people who bought their council houses. They pay £220 a week to house people who, for whatever reason have no home. That same house would have cost a family in social housing £80 a week. Who's fault? What is transparent is that people who own ex council houses are doing very nicely thank you and people who need cheap social housing are deprived of affordable homes, whether they are white, Black or Asian.[/p][/quote]your harking on about a policy that was in the late 80s? i totally agree with you about landlords getting fortunes for poor property.. but fairness in a housing list is about looking after someone who has been on the list longer than a family just landed from africa, italy, poland, australia, the colour of the people jumping the queue does not help young families, who are cramped in hotel or rubbish housing. time this country put its people first or we will see more marches by the disenfrachised! mark by the sea

3:04pm Tue 31 Aug 10

den friend says...

Mark by the sea
I am not 'harking' on about a policy that is no longer in place, people STILL have the right to buy their council house. These same houses inadvertently end up being rented out out to private tenants. Take a walk around Bevendean and see how many 'to let' signs there are. The point is you are arguing over breadcrumbs when you should be arguing over the whole loaf, get it?
Mark by the sea I am not 'harking' on about a policy that is no longer in place, people STILL have the right to buy their council house. These same houses inadvertently end up being rented out out to private tenants. Take a walk around Bevendean and see how many 'to let' signs there are. The point is you are arguing over breadcrumbs when you should be arguing over the whole loaf, get it? den friend

3:12pm Tue 31 Aug 10

DougM says...

It makes me laugh out loud to see "Kahuna" trying to be ever-so-clever by labelling the anti-EDL people as fascists!!
Aren't you a wag? I bet you're so pleased with yourself for that one aren't you?
Or are you just a Nazi apologist? Either way you should be ashamed of yourself, you are a disgusting smear on the valiant efforts of our forefathers who died to protect our lovely country from your filthy, ignorant, bigoted sort.
It makes me laugh out loud to see "Kahuna" trying to be ever-so-clever by labelling the anti-EDL people as fascists!! Aren't you a wag? I bet you're so pleased with yourself for that one aren't you? Or are you just a Nazi apologist? Either way you should be ashamed of yourself, you are a disgusting smear on the valiant efforts of our forefathers who died to protect our lovely country from your filthy, ignorant, bigoted sort. DougM

3:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mark by the sea says...

DougM wrote:
It makes me laugh out loud to see "Kahuna" trying to be ever-so-clever by labelling the anti-EDL people as fascists!! Aren't you a wag? I bet you're so pleased with yourself for that one aren't you? Or are you just a Nazi apologist? Either way you should be ashamed of yourself, you are a disgusting smear on the valiant efforts of our forefathers who died to protect our lovely country from your filthy, ignorant, bigoted sort.
dont hold back, tell him what you think!
[quote][p][bold]DougM[/bold] wrote: It makes me laugh out loud to see "Kahuna" trying to be ever-so-clever by labelling the anti-EDL people as fascists!! Aren't you a wag? I bet you're so pleased with yourself for that one aren't you? Or are you just a Nazi apologist? Either way you should be ashamed of yourself, you are a disgusting smear on the valiant efforts of our forefathers who died to protect our lovely country from your filthy, ignorant, bigoted sort.[/p][/quote]dont hold back, tell him what you think! mark by the sea

3:17pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mrresonate says...

EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past
EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past mrresonate

3:35pm Tue 31 Aug 10

jasper3 says...

well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards.
well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards. jasper3

3:46pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse.
jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse. Surely not!

4:04pm Tue 31 Aug 10

jasper3 says...

Surely not! wrote:
jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse.
that is so intelligent coming from an idiot who has their head buried in the sand and spewing filth from the vast oriface you have in the air.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse.[/p][/quote]that is so intelligent coming from an idiot who has their head buried in the sand and spewing filth from the vast oriface you have in the air. jasper3

4:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

jasper3 wrote:
Surely not! wrote:
jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse.
that is so intelligent coming from an idiot who has their head buried in the sand and spewing filth from the vast oriface you have in the air.
Well you've proved my point disappointingly. Good Luck with your life, I hope it improves.
[quote][p][bold]jasper3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: jasper3 it doesn't look like you are leaving the filthy gutter of your mind in a hurry. Its difficult to go downwards from where you evidently are, so I guess you will just continue to behave like a ****. 'indigenous people' my arse.[/p][/quote]that is so intelligent coming from an idiot who has their head buried in the sand and spewing filth from the vast oriface you have in the air.[/p][/quote]Well you've proved my point disappointingly. Good Luck with your life, I hope it improves. Surely not!

4:22pm Tue 31 Aug 10

DougM says...

jasper3 wrote:
well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards.
If by "indigenous" you mean thick, useless bigoted chavs then bring on the immigration please.
[quote][p][bold]jasper3[/bold] wrote: well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]If by "indigenous" you mean thick, useless bigoted chavs then bring on the immigration please. DougM

4:32pm Tue 31 Aug 10

mark by the sea says...

mrresonate wrote:
EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past
what are you on?
[quote][p][bold]mrresonate[/bold] wrote: EDL and all the others and the anti groups are all controlled opposition intelligence fronts set up by the MI6 and other profit bearing parties, they are wiping up brainwashed young people and sending them off filled with hate, propaganda and keeping them in their place - today would have cost the people and tax payers of Brighton and Hove a lot of money, its just a business and it was basicly just a parade to divide and conquer and make the REAL people of Brighton and Hove scared, but they were out numbered and like a lot of fascist groups they are running out of or have NO MONEY and will be a thing of the past[/p][/quote]what are you on? mark by the sea

4:34pm Tue 31 Aug 10

southwicker says...

funny they didnt let me write arse but they let me write wankers lol..........
funny they didnt let me write arse but they let me write wankers lol.......... southwicker

4:35pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Why is it ok to call people chavs?

It is bigoted, insulting and labelling.

Another way of making the person using the term feel superior to another group of people.
Why is it ok to call people chavs? It is bigoted, insulting and labelling. Another way of making the person using the term feel superior to another group of people. Surely not!

4:40pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

you got away with both there southwicker you ****!
you got away with both there southwicker you ****! Surely not!

4:58pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Surely not! wrote:
Why is it ok to call people chavs? It is bigoted, insulting and labelling. Another way of making the person using the term feel superior to another group of people.
You mean the same as NAZIS, labelling people as unemployed, fascists and unwashed because they object to NAZI scum walking the streets of Brighton?
Strangely, you didnt feel a need to comment on that.

Ok, they are not chavs they are hard working (yeah right) citizens without a criminal conviction amongst them. In fact, Im inclined to call them Buddhists.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: Why is it ok to call people chavs? It is bigoted, insulting and labelling. Another way of making the person using the term feel superior to another group of people.[/p][/quote]You mean the same as NAZIS, labelling people as unemployed, fascists and unwashed because they object to NAZI scum walking the streets of Brighton? Strangely, you didnt feel a need to comment on that. Ok, they are not chavs they are hard working (yeah right) citizens without a criminal conviction amongst them. In fact, Im inclined to call them Buddhists. daveinprague

5:05pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

oh daveinprague, you have let yourself down through your lack of attention to detail. Read back through the comments.

A bigot is a bigot dave and much of the problem with the world is caused by ignorant people jumping to conclusions.
oh daveinprague, you have let yourself down through your lack of attention to detail. Read back through the comments. A bigot is a bigot dave and much of the problem with the world is caused by ignorant people jumping to conclusions. Surely not!

5:18pm Tue 31 Aug 10

RickH says...

jasper3 wrote:
well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards.
Would you be so good as to define indigenous - my family is British back to my Grandfather, then Canadian then British for another two generations, then French as far back as I can trace. Am I indigenous or do I have to leave the UK? If so, where do I go?
[quote][p][bold]jasper3[/bold] wrote: well done to the indigenous people . it was heart warming to see people who still care about our culture and heritage. onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]Would you be so good as to define indigenous - my family is British back to my Grandfather, then Canadian then British for another two generations, then French as far back as I can trace. Am I indigenous or do I have to leave the UK? If so, where do I go? RickH

5:21pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Surely not! wrote:
oh daveinprague, you have let yourself down through your lack of attention to detail. Read back through the comments. A bigot is a bigot dave and much of the problem with the world is caused by ignorant people jumping to conclusions.
Let myself down? No, I stayed truthful to myself. Im very HAPPY to be described as a bigot, when talking about NAZIS. I find the display of NAZI salutes, as reported by the argus during the day, extremely offensive. I also find it offensive, as do MANY other Albion supporters, that OUR clubs flag has been used in this display of fascism. If ANYBODY believes that the EDL is not a fascist organisation, then frankly, theres not much anybody can do to help them. If ANYBODY believes they are truly just marching to celebrate being English, the same applies. NF to BNP to EDL to ENA....its the same people rebranding themselves to appeal to more CHAVS.
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: oh daveinprague, you have let yourself down through your lack of attention to detail. Read back through the comments. A bigot is a bigot dave and much of the problem with the world is caused by ignorant people jumping to conclusions.[/p][/quote]Let myself down? No, I stayed truthful to myself. Im very HAPPY to be described as a bigot, when talking about NAZIS. I find the display of NAZI salutes, as reported by the argus during the day, extremely offensive. I also find it offensive, as do MANY other Albion supporters, that OUR clubs flag has been used in this display of fascism. If ANYBODY believes that the EDL is not a fascist organisation, then frankly, theres not much anybody can do to help them. If ANYBODY believes they are truly just marching to celebrate being English, the same applies. NF to BNP to EDL to ENA....its the same people rebranding themselves to appeal to more CHAVS. daveinprague

5:44pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Oh dear dave, you must try to apply logic: chav is a term used to abuse the poor 'underclass' as a group. A group which has to exist for you to live in your relative luxury, and a group which is also necessary to scare the 'hard working families' of Britain not to rock the boat unless they want to end up in that dirty sea. Surprisingly given this situation, the majority of what you would call chavs have retained the humanity you seem to lack and judge people on their merits.

Don't worry...you are on the right track, just try to focus on the problem, not on dividing people. I do love patronising people :)
Oh dear dave, you must try to apply logic: chav is a term used to abuse the poor 'underclass' as a group. A group which has to exist for you to live in your relative luxury, and a group which is also necessary to scare the 'hard working families' of Britain not to rock the boat unless they want to end up in that dirty sea. Surprisingly given this situation, the majority of what you would call chavs have retained the humanity you seem to lack and judge people on their merits. Don't worry...you are on the right track, just try to focus on the problem, not on dividing people. I do love patronising people :) Surely not!

6:01pm Tue 31 Aug 10

1979 says...

Here's what actually happened. The ENA (which is a known racist organisation) decided to have a protest in Brighton with the express intention ,stated on a lot of their internet forums, of causing trouble. The managed to get about 35-40 people along, only a handful of whom were Brighton residents. People in Brighton found out about it and decided to counter-protest. This protest was NOT organised by UAF - even though UAF and Hate Music Love Racism were there, this was just 200ish local people who didn't want a load of fascists marching through our streets. In the counter-protest were young people, old people, gay people, straight people, whites, blacks and asians. The ENA were there to cause problems, we were there to tell them we didn't want them. If they want to protest, let them protest in their own cities, Brighton's not the place for that sort of intolerance.

They were outnumbered in Bradford, they were outnumbered in Brighton. Hopefully they'll start to learn that the majority of British people simply don't agree with them.

With regards to the violence caused by anti-fascist protesters, I don't agree with it and wasn't a part of it. In the end though it was a tiny minority who were involved, and in my eyes the ENA were guilty of anti-social behaviour simply by bringing their disgusting views to our town.
Here's what actually happened. The ENA (which is a known racist organisation) decided to have a protest in Brighton with the express intention ,stated on a lot of their internet forums, of causing trouble. The managed to get about 35-40 people along, only a handful of whom were Brighton residents. People in Brighton found out about it and decided to counter-protest. This protest was NOT organised by UAF - even though UAF and Hate Music Love Racism were there, this was just 200ish local people who didn't want a load of fascists marching through our streets. In the counter-protest were young people, old people, gay people, straight people, whites, blacks and asians. The ENA were there to cause problems, we were there to tell them we didn't want them. If they want to protest, let them protest in their own cities, Brighton's not the place for that sort of intolerance. They were outnumbered in Bradford, they were outnumbered in Brighton. Hopefully they'll start to learn that the majority of British people simply don't agree with them. With regards to the violence caused by anti-fascist protesters, I don't agree with it and wasn't a part of it. In the end though it was a tiny minority who were involved, and in my eyes the ENA were guilty of anti-social behaviour simply by bringing their disgusting views to our town. 1979

6:15pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Steve170658 says...

So who caused the trouble?. The UAF attacked the police, they were the ones arrested. No mention of this in the Argus though....suprise surprise.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1307482/Anti-fascist
-protesters-pelt-pol
ice-missiles-far-rig
ht-Bank-Holiday-marc
h.html
So who caused the trouble?. The UAF attacked the police, they were the ones arrested. No mention of this in the Argus though....suprise surprise. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 1307482/Anti-fascist -protesters-pelt-pol ice-missiles-far-rig ht-Bank-Holiday-marc h.html Steve170658

6:26pm Tue 31 Aug 10

garyscott says...

RickH wrote:
garyscott wrote:
intheknowlad wrote: Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx
why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol
And that says it all really - a racsist and a homophobe to boot. Whilst intheknowlad may not drink there, I do and am sick of little jerks like you who think us gay boys are a target for ridicule - one day the wheel of karma will turn and dump a huge load of s**t your way (thats if someone doesn't give you a well-deserved smack in the face first!)
awww.... touched a nerve there little Ricky in Hove... lol
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intheknowlad[/bold] wrote: Gary the way i see it youre a toss pot, if you wish to proove me wrong tell me how to get in touch xxx[/p][/quote]why the kisses ? do ya drink in the bulldog lol[/p][/quote]And that says it all really - a racsist and a homophobe to boot. Whilst intheknowlad may not drink there, I do and am sick of little jerks like you who think us gay boys are a target for ridicule - one day the wheel of karma will turn and dump a huge load of s**t your way (thats if someone doesn't give you a well-deserved smack in the face first!)[/p][/quote]awww.... touched a nerve there little Ricky in Hove... lol garyscott

6:28pm Tue 31 Aug 10

daveinprague says...

Steve170658 wrote:
So who caused the trouble?. The UAF attacked the police, they were the ones arrested. No mention of this in the Argus though....suprise surprise. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 1307482/Anti-fascist -protesters-pelt-pol ice-missiles-far-rig ht-Bank-Holiday-marc h.html
Daily Mail in anti leftwinger shock
apart from that, thanks for the link, as i found the pictures of EDL clashing with the police just as interesting.
Funny how you never hear about the BNP anymore, but you hear a lot about EDL...but hey, these are just (non chav) ordinary English people who want to celebrate being English, and nothing to do with the BNP. Admittedly, their web page was created by the same fascist who created the BNPs but thats probably just a co incidence isnt it?
[quote][p][bold]Steve170658[/bold] wrote: So who caused the trouble?. The UAF attacked the police, they were the ones arrested. No mention of this in the Argus though....suprise surprise. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 1307482/Anti-fascist -protesters-pelt-pol ice-missiles-far-rig ht-Bank-Holiday-marc h.html[/p][/quote]Daily Mail in anti leftwinger shock apart from that, thanks for the link, as i found the pictures of EDL clashing with the police just as interesting. Funny how you never hear about the BNP anymore, but you hear a lot about EDL...but hey, these are just (non chav) ordinary English people who want to celebrate being English, and nothing to do with the BNP. Admittedly, their web page was created by the same fascist who created the BNPs but thats probably just a co incidence isnt it? daveinprague

6:30pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Mr Numptyhead says...

Actually, Chav is a term used to label Chavs!
I don't assume that everyone in the "poor underclass" is a chav, do you? And I don't think that use of the word has to be abusive or derogatory, though it will take a few more lunchtime pints to be sure.

It is not a word with commonly accepted usage, so don't read too much into it, and don't attack someone simply for using it.

FYI - this is the Chambers Slang Dictionary view:

'chav' - 'a working-class youth, esp. if particularly brash, often wearing sportswear and/or designer labels; occas. with implications of petty criminality.'

(How does it feel to be patronised;-)
Actually, Chav is a term used to label Chavs! I don't assume that everyone in the "poor underclass" is a chav, do you? And I don't think that use of the word has to be abusive or derogatory, though it will take a few more lunchtime pints to be sure. It is not a word with commonly accepted usage, so don't read too much into it, and don't attack someone simply for using it. FYI - this is the Chambers Slang Dictionary view: 'chav' - 'a working-class youth, esp. if particularly brash, often wearing sportswear and/or designer labels; occas. with implications of petty criminality.' (How does it feel to be patronised;-) Mr Numptyhead

6:35pm Tue 31 Aug 10

1979 says...

To Steve 170658 - no, the UAF did not attack the police. Some kids who wanted to have a go at some racists got in a scuffle with the police. I don't condone it at all, in fact I argued against some of my fellow protesters when they shouted at the police because I thought it was counter-productive. It's a bit weird that you're trying to paint the UAF as an organisation that promotes violence when the facts clearly don't back this up. Are you an EDL troll by any chance?

I saw some anti-fascists pull down barricades after being penned in by the police for over an hour after they'd told us we'd be able to leave, but that was the worst of it - even when the police rode their horses straight into us nobody fought back.
To Steve 170658 - no, the UAF did not attack the police. Some kids who wanted to have a go at some racists got in a scuffle with the police. I don't condone it at all, in fact I argued against some of my fellow protesters when they shouted at the police because I thought it was counter-productive. It's a bit weird that you're trying to paint the UAF as an organisation that promotes violence when the facts clearly don't back this up. Are you an EDL troll by any chance? I saw some anti-fascists pull down barricades after being penned in by the police for over an hour after they'd told us we'd be able to leave, but that was the worst of it - even when the police rode their horses straight into us nobody fought back. 1979

7:05pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Sussevingian says...

chrisbrighton wrote:
Good to see that the fascists had such a small turnout for their little parade today. Sad however to see any fascists on the steets on Brighton, a City that is rightfully prides itself on its reputation for diversity
Yes, we should be proud of diversity, but only if it's diversity that's on the officially-approved 'diversity' list. Unauthorised diversity should be put down firmly.
[quote][p][bold]chrisbrighton[/bold] wrote: Good to see that the fascists had such a small turnout for their little parade today. Sad however to see any fascists on the steets on Brighton, a City that is rightfully prides itself on its reputation for diversity[/p][/quote]Yes, we should be proud of diversity, but only if it's diversity that's on the officially-approved 'diversity' list. Unauthorised diversity should be put down firmly. Sussevingian

7:23pm Tue 31 Aug 10

jasper3 says...

1979 wrote:
To Steve 170658 - no, the UAF did not attack the police. Some kids who wanted to have a go at some racists got in a scuffle with the police. I don't condone it at all, in fact I argued against some of my fellow protesters when they shouted at the police because I thought it was counter-productive. It's a bit weird that you're trying to paint the UAF as an organisation that promotes violence when the facts clearly don't back this up. Are you an EDL troll by any chance? I saw some anti-fascists pull down barricades after being penned in by the police for over an hour after they'd told us we'd be able to leave, but that was the worst of it - even when the police rode their horses straight into us nobody fought back.
the facts are that the joint secretary of the uaf weylon bennett was arrested at bolton in june for suspicion to cause serious crime. FACT.
[quote][p][bold]1979[/bold] wrote: To Steve 170658 - no, the UAF did not attack the police. Some kids who wanted to have a go at some racists got in a scuffle with the police. I don't condone it at all, in fact I argued against some of my fellow protesters when they shouted at the police because I thought it was counter-productive. It's a bit weird that you're trying to paint the UAF as an organisation that promotes violence when the facts clearly don't back this up. Are you an EDL troll by any chance? I saw some anti-fascists pull down barricades after being penned in by the police for over an hour after they'd told us we'd be able to leave, but that was the worst of it - even when the police rode their horses straight into us nobody fought back.[/p][/quote]the facts are that the joint secretary of the uaf weylon bennett was arrested at bolton in june for suspicion to cause serious crime. FACT. jasper3

7:45pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Mr. Kipling says...

Was there not a story recently about loads of new council housing about to be built? It won't solve the problem over night but surely that is a first step in the right direction.
Was there not a story recently about loads of new council housing about to be built? It won't solve the problem over night but surely that is a first step in the right direction. Mr. Kipling

8:25pm Tue 31 Aug 10

cheezburger says...

Do the supposed skin-head hard nuts not realise their look nowadays just makes them look gay? Or is the irony lost on their poor befuddled minds.
Do the supposed skin-head hard nuts not realise their look nowadays just makes them look gay? Or is the irony lost on their poor befuddled minds. cheezburger

8:26pm Tue 31 Aug 10

true-brightonian says...

Readers: don't be fooled by the EDL/ENA idiots posting here that they are not racist. In fact have a look at the white supremacy website, Stormfront, where the EDL/ENA can be found gloating about the mayhem they caused in Brighton: http://www.stormfron
t.org/forum/t736548/


On this website visitors also discuss things like "Adolf Hitler speaks", "why are they so afraid of Hitler?" and "The Reason Jews Win and We Lose". Even though they wave Israeli flags, the EDL/ENA are simply fascist thugs with Nazi tendencies.
Readers: don't be fooled by the EDL/ENA idiots posting here that they are not racist. In fact have a look at the white supremacy website, Stormfront, where the EDL/ENA can be found gloating about the mayhem they caused in Brighton: http://www.stormfron t.org/forum/t736548/ On this website visitors also discuss things like "Adolf Hitler speaks", "why are they so afraid of Hitler?" and "The Reason Jews Win and We Lose". Even though they wave Israeli flags, the EDL/ENA are simply fascist thugs with Nazi tendencies. true-brightonian

9:25pm Tue 31 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

before anyone else judges those speaking up for the neon nastis march yesterday, read on, i just pulled this from one of 'garyscotts' web profiles, won't say which site tho, as it might attract the wrong sort, but he seems like a half decent chap;

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---------

About Me: Genuinely nice guy, very giving, fun to be around, kind to children and animals.

Age: 17 3/4

Relationship Status: Divorced.

Employment Status: Inbetween Jobs.

Religion: Church of the Poison Mind.

Nationality: Yes

Sexuality: Unsure

Height: 5'1"

Weight: 16 1/2 St

Tattoos: Yes

Piercings: Earings (pearl or hoops usually)

Teeth: Some

Hobbies: Hiking, Marching, Fighting.

Favourite Movie: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer.

Favourite Book: Mein Kampf.

Favourite Music: Ride of the Valkyries.

Favourite Food: Indian Takeaway.

Favourite Colour: Black.

Favourite Day Out: Gay Pride.

Other Likes: Hollyoaks, Sex and the City, Glee, Lederhosen (the leather ones), Alpine Horns, Messerschmitts, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Hair Straightners.

Dislikes: Tall People, Winston Churchill, Spitfires.

Pets: Pit-Bull Terrier.
before anyone else judges those speaking up for the neon nastis march yesterday, read on, i just pulled this from one of 'garyscotts' web profiles, won't say which site tho, as it might attract the wrong sort, but he seems like a half decent chap; -------------------- --------- About Me: Genuinely nice guy, very giving, fun to be around, kind to children and animals. Age: 17 3/4 Relationship Status: Divorced. Employment Status: Inbetween Jobs. Religion: Church of the Poison Mind. Nationality: Yes Sexuality: Unsure Height: 5'1" Weight: 16 1/2 St Tattoos: Yes Piercings: Earings (pearl or hoops usually) Teeth: Some Hobbies: Hiking, Marching, Fighting. Favourite Movie: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer. Favourite Book: Mein Kampf. Favourite Music: Ride of the Valkyries. Favourite Food: Indian Takeaway. Favourite Colour: Black. Favourite Day Out: Gay Pride. Other Likes: Hollyoaks, Sex and the City, Glee, Lederhosen (the leather ones), Alpine Horns, Messerschmitts, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Hair Straightners. Dislikes: Tall People, Winston Churchill, Spitfires. Pets: Pit-Bull Terrier. george 3rd

10:12pm Tue 31 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

unfortunately they're no longer allowed to travel abroad, having had their passports revoked after england away matches. when they ask 'where will the english christians go to worship in islamic states' they actually mean "does that mean we can't go to Wales anymore?". btw 'gary' doesn't actually work for the housing, i think he's spent so much time there filling in forms that he just got a little confused
unfortunately they're no longer allowed to travel abroad, having had their passports revoked after england away matches. when they ask 'where will the english christians go to worship in islamic states' they actually mean "does that mean we can't go to Wales anymore?". btw 'gary' doesn't actually work for the housing, i think he's spent so much time there filling in forms that he just got a little confused george 3rd

10:43pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Mr Numptyhead wrote:
Actually, Chav is a term used to label Chavs!
I don't assume that everyone in the "poor underclass" is a chav, do you? And I don't think that use of the word has to be abusive or derogatory, though it will take a few more lunchtime pints to be sure.

It is not a word with commonly accepted usage, so don't read too much into it, and don't attack someone simply for using it.

FYI - this is the Chambers Slang Dictionary view:

'chav' - 'a working-class youth, esp. if particularly brash, often wearing sportswear and/or designer labels; occas. with implications of petty criminality.'

(How does it feel to be patronised;-)
not patronising at all, reasonably well argued.
Precisely because it is a word without an accepted definition it is a word which should be used with care. Look at the way people use it. Middle class right wingers, middle class left wingers for both it seems to be an acceptable term of abuse.What do they both have in common? Of course the EDL or who ever they are are laughable, they will become dangerous when they become the tool of some better educated or more powerful people, probably middle class, who ultimately despise them. Believe me, everyone will wish they had been less disparaging then.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Numptyhead[/bold] wrote: Actually, Chav is a term used to label Chavs! I don't assume that everyone in the "poor underclass" is a chav, do you? And I don't think that use of the word has to be abusive or derogatory, though it will take a few more lunchtime pints to be sure. It is not a word with commonly accepted usage, so don't read too much into it, and don't attack someone simply for using it. FYI - this is the Chambers Slang Dictionary view: 'chav' - 'a working-class youth, esp. if particularly brash, often wearing sportswear and/or designer labels; occas. with implications of petty criminality.' (How does it feel to be patronised;-)[/p][/quote]not patronising at all, reasonably well argued. Precisely because it is a word without an accepted definition it is a word which should be used with care. Look at the way people use it. Middle class right wingers, middle class left wingers for both it seems to be an acceptable term of abuse.What do they both have in common? Of course the EDL or who ever they are are laughable, they will become dangerous when they become the tool of some better educated or more powerful people, probably middle class, who ultimately despise them. Believe me, everyone will wish they had been less disparaging then. Surely not!

10:46pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

and respect for taking a dictionary to the pub
and respect for taking a dictionary to the pub Surely not!

10:56pm Tue 31 Aug 10

garyscott says...

george 3rd wrote:
before anyone else judges those speaking up for the neon nastis march yesterday, read on, i just pulled this from one of 'garyscotts' web profiles, won't say which site tho, as it might attract the wrong sort, but he seems like a half decent chap;

--------------------

---------

About Me: Genuinely nice guy, very giving, fun to be around, kind to children and animals.

Age: 17 3/4

Relationship Status: Divorced.

Employment Status: Inbetween Jobs.

Religion: Church of the Poison Mind.

Nationality: Yes

Sexuality: Unsure

Height: 5'1"

Weight: 16 1/2 St

Tattoos: Yes

Piercings: Earings (pearl or hoops usually)

Teeth: Some

Hobbies: Hiking, Marching, Fighting.

Favourite Movie: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer.

Favourite Book: Mein Kampf.

Favourite Music: Ride of the Valkyries.

Favourite Food: Indian Takeaway.

Favourite Colour: Black.

Favourite Day Out: Gay Pride.

Other Likes: Hollyoaks, Sex and the City, Glee, Lederhosen (the leather ones), Alpine Horns, Messerschmitts, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Hair Straightners.

Dislikes: Tall People, Winston Churchill, Spitfires.

Pets: Pit-Bull Terrier.
lol nearly right
[quote][p][bold]george 3rd[/bold] wrote: before anyone else judges those speaking up for the neon nastis march yesterday, read on, i just pulled this from one of 'garyscotts' web profiles, won't say which site tho, as it might attract the wrong sort, but he seems like a half decent chap; -------------------- --------- About Me: Genuinely nice guy, very giving, fun to be around, kind to children and animals. Age: 17 3/4 Relationship Status: Divorced. Employment Status: Inbetween Jobs. Religion: Church of the Poison Mind. Nationality: Yes Sexuality: Unsure Height: 5'1" Weight: 16 1/2 St Tattoos: Yes Piercings: Earings (pearl or hoops usually) Teeth: Some Hobbies: Hiking, Marching, Fighting. Favourite Movie: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer. Favourite Book: Mein Kampf. Favourite Music: Ride of the Valkyries. Favourite Food: Indian Takeaway. Favourite Colour: Black. Favourite Day Out: Gay Pride. Other Likes: Hollyoaks, Sex and the City, Glee, Lederhosen (the leather ones), Alpine Horns, Messerschmitts, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Hair Straightners. Dislikes: Tall People, Winston Churchill, Spitfires. Pets: Pit-Bull Terrier.[/p][/quote]lol nearly right garyscott

11:03pm Tue 31 Aug 10

garyscott says...

workingmama wrote:
There are so many uneducated comments here such as "where will the english christains go to worship in islamic states. ? no where. they are not allowed"
Have you ever been to a muslim country??? most have churches and do allow christians to worship. I know because I lived in the Middle East for years and saw plenty of churches including catholic ones.

How many of you actually step foot in church on a regular basis, probably 1%.
Garyscott, I am suprised you admitted you worked in Housing for BHCC. BHCC is totally against homophobia and racism and does not tolorate if from its staff so I hope your real name does not surface and your employers found out who you are. I also work in Housing and know for a fact that Gary Scott does not exist on the staffing role. Hey Im also a converted muslim, I look and act like any normal person on the street and have no dreams to turn UK into an Islamic state, I love it just the way it is, as do thousands of other muslims in the UK, despite what the media always says otherwise.
I can guarantee that no one called working mama is on the staff list either - do u seriously think i'm going to give my real name ? Everyone is entitled to their views - I might not like my colleagues but I still have to work alongside them.
[quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: There are so many uneducated comments here such as "where will the english christains go to worship in islamic states. ? no where. they are not allowed" Have you ever been to a muslim country??? most have churches and do allow christians to worship. I know because I lived in the Middle East for years and saw plenty of churches including catholic ones. How many of you actually step foot in church on a regular basis, probably 1%. Garyscott, I am suprised you admitted you worked in Housing for BHCC. BHCC is totally against homophobia and racism and does not tolorate if from its staff so I hope your real name does not surface and your employers found out who you are. I also work in Housing and know for a fact that Gary Scott does not exist on the staffing role. Hey Im also a converted muslim, I look and act like any normal person on the street and have no dreams to turn UK into an Islamic state, I love it just the way it is, as do thousands of other muslims in the UK, despite what the media always says otherwise.[/p][/quote]I can guarantee that no one called working mama is on the staff list either - do u seriously think i'm going to give my real name ? Everyone is entitled to their views - I might not like my colleagues but I still have to work alongside them. garyscott

11:11pm Tue 31 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

You live a lie garyscott?

Get some backbone. Have the courage of your convictions.

Did you not go on this march?
You live a lie garyscott? Get some backbone. Have the courage of your convictions. Did you not go on this march? Surely not!

11:30pm Tue 31 Aug 10

jasper3 says...

SAUDIA ARABIA. no churches allowed. open practice of christainity is punishable by death. PAKISTAN with a population of 4.8 million christains had sharia law imposed on them in 1998. all christain services require a permit. most churches are in fact homes ! EGYPT the president needs to sign a resolution for the contruction of a church- needless to say none are built.IRAN no constrution in years. ALGERIA any existing churches require a permit. no new churches permitted. yes islam is truly wonderful NOT. yours jasper
SAUDIA ARABIA. no churches allowed. open practice of christainity is punishable by death. PAKISTAN with a population of 4.8 million christains had sharia law imposed on them in 1998. all christain services require a permit. most churches are in fact homes ! EGYPT the president needs to sign a resolution for the contruction of a church- needless to say none are built.IRAN no constrution in years. ALGERIA any existing churches require a permit. no new churches permitted. yes islam is truly wonderful NOT. yours jasper jasper3

11:33pm Tue 31 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

'christainity'?
'christainity'? george 3rd

11:35pm Tue 31 Aug 10

george 3rd says...

'saudia'?
'saudia'? george 3rd

12:08am Wed 1 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

Err...Hold on the attacks on the police were by members of the UAF.
The UAF are(in my opinion)the Marxist equivilent of the vile brown-shirted SA(Sturmabteilung)th
ugs of the NSDAP and Wayman Bennett their equivilent of Ernst Rohm! Oh and dont forget many senior politicians in all three main parties have signed on as supporters, isn't democracy wonderful.
Err...Hold on the attacks on the police were by members of the UAF. The UAF are(in my opinion)the Marxist equivilent of the vile brown-shirted SA(Sturmabteilung)th ugs of the NSDAP and Wayman Bennett their equivilent of Ernst Rohm! Oh and dont forget many senior politicians in all three main parties have signed on as supporters, isn't democracy wonderful. chris elmes

12:36am Wed 1 Sep 10

workingmama says...

jasper3
Dont know why your so worked up about churches in the Middle East.
There are plenty in the Gulf countries.
Anyway churches in UK are virtually empty, only time most Brits go to church is for a birth, death or wedding or after getting blind drunk on christmas eve.

This myth that all muslims in UK want Sharia law here, want a mosque on every corner blah blah blah is BS.
There are nutters in every religion, most pedo's murderers, rapists in UK if asked their religion will state Christian, does not mean all Christians are warped minded.
As a converted muslim who was born and bred in Brighton I love UK as it is as do thousands of others here, but our opinions and voices are ignored by the media who only want to create mayhem by broadcasting the stupid rants of the uneducated Muslim muffins who invented a new version of Islam to suit their nasty little twisted minds.
My daughter who is also muslim takes part in her school nativity along with all the other muslim kids there, we join in with christmas and easter etc as do many other muslims. I really think that most who spurt such hatred really have never met and spent time with a muslim and just got their ideas from the Daily Mail and tar all with the same brush because of the few that practise the Noddy's Jihad version.
jasper3 Dont know why your so worked up about churches in the Middle East. There are plenty in the Gulf countries. Anyway churches in UK are virtually empty, only time most Brits go to church is for a birth, death or wedding or after getting blind drunk on christmas eve. This myth that all muslims in UK want Sharia law here, want a mosque on every corner blah blah blah is BS. There are nutters in every religion, most pedo's murderers, rapists in UK if asked their religion will state Christian, does not mean all Christians are warped minded. As a converted muslim who was born and bred in Brighton I love UK as it is as do thousands of others here, but our opinions and voices are ignored by the media who only want to create mayhem by broadcasting the stupid rants of the uneducated Muslim muffins who invented a new version of Islam to suit their nasty little twisted minds. My daughter who is also muslim takes part in her school nativity along with all the other muslim kids there, we join in with christmas and easter etc as do many other muslims. I really think that most who spurt such hatred really have never met and spent time with a muslim and just got their ideas from the Daily Mail and tar all with the same brush because of the few that practise the Noddy's Jihad version. workingmama

12:38am Wed 1 Sep 10

als40 says...

ERR Chris did you follow the coverage? A number of EDL marchers were caught giving Nazi salutes at the train station. The fascist EDL's views are just as shocking. They try to disguise their racism by claiming that they hate extremism, but they smashed up a Hindu temple in Dudley. How can you compare people like Mr Bennett, exercising their freedom of speech, to vile EDL who like their Nazi forebears only want to cause suffering to large sections of society. You pretend that the EDL did nothing wrong, but ask the proprietor of the Great Eastern, who saw his property smashed up by your Facist EDL friends.
ERR Chris did you follow the coverage? A number of EDL marchers were caught giving Nazi salutes at the train station. The fascist EDL's views are just as shocking. They try to disguise their racism by claiming that they hate extremism, but they smashed up a Hindu temple in Dudley. How can you compare people like Mr Bennett, exercising their freedom of speech, to vile EDL who like their Nazi forebears only want to cause suffering to large sections of society. You pretend that the EDL did nothing wrong, but ask the proprietor of the Great Eastern, who saw his property smashed up by your Facist EDL friends. als40

12:43am Wed 1 Sep 10

garyscott says...

Surely not! wrote:
You live a lie garyscott?

Get some backbone. Have the courage of your convictions.

Did you not go on this march?
of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ???
[quote][p][bold]Surely not![/bold] wrote: You live a lie garyscott? Get some backbone. Have the courage of your convictions. Did you not go on this march?[/p][/quote]of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ??? garyscott

7:35am Wed 1 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

It's sad and astonishing that so-called defenders of England cannot spell basic English words, the most recent from Jasper3..Christian and Christianity.
Why on earth would some countries have Christian places of worship when Englishmen cannot even spell the word. It is utterly astonishing.
This follows another 'defender' being unable to spell the name of the country he lives in as 'Britton'.
My late grandad served in the trenches of France at 16 years old and he would be spinning in his grave to hear that these so-called Englishmen are proporting to defend our great country.
It's sad and astonishing that so-called defenders of England cannot spell basic English words, the most recent from Jasper3..Christian and Christianity. Why on earth would some countries have Christian places of worship when Englishmen cannot even spell the word. It is utterly astonishing. This follows another 'defender' being unable to spell the name of the country he lives in as 'Britton'. My late grandad served in the trenches of France at 16 years old and he would be spinning in his grave to hear that these so-called Englishmen are proporting to defend our great country. TheInsider

8:31am Wed 1 Sep 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

Insider... the picture at the top of this article says it all.
Look at that retarded knucklehead behind the banner.
Do you seriously think that man is capable of having a coherent thought, never mind understanding a philiosophy or having a political point of view.
"A picture paints a thousand words"
Well done Argus.
My father was a Polish immigrant who came over and fought for this country in WW2. After the war, he was unable to return to the country he loved. These people presumably would have forcibly repatriated him. Maybe as I'm half Polish I should be sent back to Poland, even though I have lived my whole life in this country, because that's what they would like to do to moslems that were born here.
Idiots.
Insider... the picture at the top of this article says it all. Look at that retarded knucklehead behind the banner. Do you seriously think that man is capable of having a coherent thought, never mind understanding a philiosophy or having a political point of view. "A picture paints a thousand words" Well done Argus. My father was a Polish immigrant who came over and fought for this country in WW2. After the war, he was unable to return to the country he loved. These people presumably would have forcibly repatriated him. Maybe as I'm half Polish I should be sent back to Poland, even though I have lived my whole life in this country, because that's what they would like to do to moslems that were born here. Idiots. Ballroom Blitz

9:34am Wed 1 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

If the rightwing idiots REALLY believe that Sharia Law is likely in the UK, then really, you need to get some sort of medical help. Seriously. Your mental health issues probably explains your bitterness.
If the rightwing idiots REALLY believe that Sharia Law is likely in the UK, then really, you need to get some sort of medical help. Seriously. Your mental health issues probably explains your bitterness. daveinprague

9:39am Wed 1 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

And when im talking about Sharia law, im talking about ALL of the UK, not just Islamic divorces etc for muslims, the same limited laws that the Jewish faith enjoys. The fact that you TRY to imply that Sharia Law will be the main law in the UK is RIDICULOUS. Almost as ridiculous as yourselves.
And when im talking about Sharia law, im talking about ALL of the UK, not just Islamic divorces etc for muslims, the same limited laws that the Jewish faith enjoys. The fact that you TRY to imply that Sharia Law will be the main law in the UK is RIDICULOUS. Almost as ridiculous as yourselves. daveinprague

10:48am Wed 1 Sep 10

jasper3 says...

TheInsider wrote:
It's sad and astonishing that so-called defenders of England cannot spell basic English words, the most recent from Jasper3..Christian and Christianity. Why on earth would some countries have Christian places of worship when Englishmen cannot even spell the word. It is utterly astonishing. This follows another 'defender' being unable to spell the name of the country he lives in as 'Britton'. My late grandad served in the trenches of France at 16 years old and he would be spinning in his grave to hear that these so-called Englishmen are proporting to defend our great country.
yes it was late and i was tired nothing to do with the dried camel dung of course.
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: It's sad and astonishing that so-called defenders of England cannot spell basic English words, the most recent from Jasper3..Christian and Christianity. Why on earth would some countries have Christian places of worship when Englishmen cannot even spell the word. It is utterly astonishing. This follows another 'defender' being unable to spell the name of the country he lives in as 'Britton'. My late grandad served in the trenches of France at 16 years old and he would be spinning in his grave to hear that these so-called Englishmen are proporting to defend our great country.[/p][/quote]yes it was late and i was tired nothing to do with the dried camel dung of course. jasper3

11:50am Wed 1 Sep 10

pilkenstein says...

Fighting fascism with violence? Physicians, heal thyselves. :-)

It's like the Salem Witch Trials all over again - scream 'Fascist' at someone whose point of view you disagree with, slience them, perhaps give them a 'kicking', and that makes it all right, apparently.

The Left appear to be on as dodgy a ground than the Right on this - either we DO live in a democracy, in which case everyone, no matter how disgusting their views, deserves a right to be heard, or we don't. End of.

Democracy isn't 'Pick'n'Mix'.

I fail to see how fighting Fascism with violence achieves anything, other than levelling the field between bullies of any political leaning - a snarling thug trying to silence opposition is a fascist by any name, no matter whether the thug reads the Guardian or the Socialist Worker. :-)
Fighting fascism with violence? Physicians, heal thyselves. :-) It's like the Salem Witch Trials all over again - scream 'Fascist' at someone whose point of view you disagree with, slience them, perhaps give them a 'kicking', and that makes it all right, apparently. The Left appear to be on as dodgy a ground than the Right on this - either we DO live in a democracy, in which case everyone, no matter how disgusting their views, deserves a right to be heard, or we don't. End of. Democracy isn't 'Pick'n'Mix'. I fail to see how fighting Fascism with violence achieves anything, other than levelling the field between bullies of any political leaning - a snarling thug trying to silence opposition is a fascist by any name, no matter whether the thug reads the Guardian or the Socialist Worker. :-) pilkenstein

11:57am Wed 1 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

Its not name calling..they ARE fascists. Read the EDL web page... See reports of NAZI salutes at Brighton station. If it looks like a duck, quacks like duck, walks like a duck...ITS A DUCK.
Its not name calling..they ARE fascists. Read the EDL web page... See reports of NAZI salutes at Brighton station. If it looks like a duck, quacks like duck, walks like a duck...ITS A DUCK. daveinprague

12:58pm Wed 1 Sep 10

sine-die says...

I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.
I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents. sine-die

1:43pm Wed 1 Sep 10

pilkenstein says...

sine-die wrote:
I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.
You take no sides, and yet you think that a person's political beliefs (however blinkered and bigoted, granted) should affect his/her employment, and you also speak for both the city council and it's residents? Wow, does your ego have planning permissiion?

Whatever happened to 'vive la difference', however unpalatable that difference is?

Reading this entire thread, all I see is fascism from both sides of the political divide.

Pay attention at the back - Shutting people up violently because you disagree with them is fascism, whether you align yourself with the Left OR the Right. :)
[quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.[/p][/quote]You take no sides, and yet you think that a person's political beliefs (however blinkered and bigoted, granted) should affect his/her employment, and you also speak for both the city council and it's residents? Wow, does your ego have planning permissiion? Whatever happened to 'vive la difference', however unpalatable that difference is? Reading this entire thread, all I see is fascism from both sides of the political divide. Pay attention at the back - Shutting people up violently because you disagree with them is fascism, whether you align yourself with the Left OR the Right. :) pilkenstein

4:53pm Wed 1 Sep 10

Jo-scuba says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
Both sets of demonstrators are idiots. The fascists are idiots because all fascists are brain dead idiots. The anti fascists are idiots because without their 'intervention' 30 skinheads holding a march would have amounted to NOTHING. The only way to deal with fascists is not to confront them - but to laugh at them. I suggest, that if they decide to trouble us next August bank holiday, that all of us moderate Brightonians don clown outfits, or anything bohemian and colourful, line the route of the march and point and LAUGH AT THEM. Do not bother with confrontation - you play right into their hands. I would encourage members of our gay community to join us wearing their most colourful Pride costumes. They will never come here again if we did that. I guarantee it. And Larry Taylor - you are a prize d!ck.
This is the most sensible thing I have read on here yet. People like Gary Scott and Kahuna are trying to antagonise people and provoke a reaction by insulting everybody. They are looking for a fight (just like I imagine they were at the protest). The best thing everyone can do is not respond to them - IGNORE THEM! They want you to retaliate.

God, they do all look like Orks in the photos, though, especially that toothy leader one at the front. Inebriates, so full of anger and rage... If they don't like the UKs diverse culture now, maybe they should just move to Benidorm or Marbella, or somewhere where they can all be racist together...and away from the rest of us. They just hate anything and anyone who isn't just like them, and they will look for any excuse to fight.

Said my piece now, and I won't be responding to any backlash.
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: Both sets of demonstrators are idiots. The fascists are idiots because all fascists are brain dead idiots. The anti fascists are idiots because without their 'intervention' 30 skinheads holding a march would have amounted to NOTHING. The only way to deal with fascists is not to confront them - but to laugh at them. I suggest, that if they decide to trouble us next August bank holiday, that all of us moderate Brightonians don clown outfits, or anything bohemian and colourful, line the route of the march and point and LAUGH AT THEM. Do not bother with confrontation - you play right into their hands. I would encourage members of our gay community to join us wearing their most colourful Pride costumes. They will never come here again if we did that. I guarantee it. And Larry Taylor - you are a prize d!ck.[/p][/quote]This is the most sensible thing I have read on here yet. People like Gary Scott and Kahuna are trying to antagonise people and provoke a reaction by insulting everybody. They are looking for a fight (just like I imagine they were at the protest). The best thing everyone can do is not respond to them - IGNORE THEM! They want you to retaliate. God, they do all look like Orks in the photos, though, especially that toothy leader one at the front. Inebriates, so full of anger and rage... If they don't like the UKs diverse culture now, maybe they should just move to Benidorm or Marbella, or somewhere where they can all be racist together...and away from the rest of us. They just hate anything and anyone who isn't just like them, and they will look for any excuse to fight. Said my piece now, and I won't be responding to any backlash. Jo-scuba

4:59pm Wed 1 Sep 10

Jo-scuba says...

sine-die wrote:
I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.
Good on you! Infact, Gary Scott's made it clear that he was at the march and that he works for the Council. I'm sure if anyone from the Council felt inclined to look through all the photos of the event, they might spot a familiar face amongst the crowd...

Name and shame that's what I say!
[quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.[/p][/quote]Good on you! Infact, Gary Scott's made it clear that he was at the march and that he works for the Council. I'm sure if anyone from the Council felt inclined to look through all the photos of the event, they might spot a familiar face amongst the crowd... Name and shame that's what I say! Jo-scuba

8:24pm Wed 1 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

als40 wrote:
ERR Chris did you follow the coverage? A number of EDL marchers were caught giving Nazi salutes at the train station. The fascist EDL's views are just as shocking. They try to disguise their racism by claiming that they hate extremism, but they smashed up a Hindu temple in Dudley. How can you compare people like Mr Bennett, exercising their freedom of speech, to vile EDL who like their Nazi forebears only want to cause suffering to large sections of society. You pretend that the EDL did nothing wrong, but ask the proprietor of the Great Eastern, who saw his property smashed up by your Facist EDL friends.
How do you come to the conclusion that I support Fascism? How does criticism of the UAF and Weyman Bennitt equate to supporting the EDF? You seem to have an agenda on this.you don't happen to be a card carrying communist party member by any chance? Members of the UAF were the ones arrested for public order,this supports my suggestion that the UAF are no different in their intent or means from that of the SA. As for you saying Weyman Bennett and the sheep like "useful idiots"who follow this sorry little Marxist Exercising free speech don't make me laugh Bennett just believes in his right to control everyone else. Just like his opposite numbers among the National-Socialists all he really wants is to be the one on the top of the dung heap,living off the fat of the land whilst the surfs scurry about after the scraps from his table. The truth is that National-Socialism is a form of socialism as is Scientific socialism(Communism)
they are two sides of the same coin(the clue is in the word Socialism)and those under either regime have no freedom whatsoever.
One final point regarding the issue of murder and genocide(figures are approximate) National-Socialists(
Germany) 17.5 million(approx) Scientific Socialism/Communism USSR 30million(approx) Peoples Republic of China 50 million(approx)! Now go back into your rose-tinted little Marxist world and come back when you have sufficently educated yourself to know what you are actually talking about.
[quote][p][bold]als40[/bold] wrote: ERR Chris did you follow the coverage? A number of EDL marchers were caught giving Nazi salutes at the train station. The fascist EDL's views are just as shocking. They try to disguise their racism by claiming that they hate extremism, but they smashed up a Hindu temple in Dudley. How can you compare people like Mr Bennett, exercising their freedom of speech, to vile EDL who like their Nazi forebears only want to cause suffering to large sections of society. You pretend that the EDL did nothing wrong, but ask the proprietor of the Great Eastern, who saw his property smashed up by your Facist EDL friends.[/p][/quote]How do you come to the conclusion that I support Fascism? How does criticism of the UAF and Weyman Bennitt equate to supporting the EDF? You seem to have an agenda on this.you don't happen to be a card carrying communist party member by any chance? Members of the UAF were the ones arrested for public order,this supports my suggestion that the UAF are no different in their intent or means from that of the SA. As for you saying Weyman Bennett and the sheep like "useful idiots"who follow this sorry little Marxist Exercising free speech don't make me laugh Bennett just believes in his right to control everyone else. Just like his opposite numbers among the National-Socialists all he really wants is to be the one on the top of the dung heap,living off the fat of the land whilst the surfs scurry about after the scraps from his table. The truth is that National-Socialism is a form of socialism as is Scientific socialism(Communism) they are two sides of the same coin(the clue is in the word Socialism)and those under either regime have no freedom whatsoever. One final point regarding the issue of murder and genocide(figures are approximate) National-Socialists( Germany) 17.5 million(approx) Scientific Socialism/Communism USSR 30million(approx) Peoples Republic of China 50 million(approx)! Now go back into your rose-tinted little Marxist world and come back when you have sufficently educated yourself to know what you are actually talking about. chris elmes

8:58pm Wed 1 Sep 10

garyscott says...

Jo-scuba wrote:
sine-die wrote:
I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.
Good on you! Infact, Gary Scott's made it clear that he was at the march and that he works for the Council. I'm sure if anyone from the Council felt inclined to look through all the photos of the event, they might spot a familiar face amongst the crowd...

Name and shame that's what I say!
Doubt it - in my time off work I do as I please, just like the unwashed scum that said the march would never go ahead - get a life.
[quote][p][bold]Jo-scuba[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.[/p][/quote]Good on you! Infact, Gary Scott's made it clear that he was at the march and that he works for the Council. I'm sure if anyone from the Council felt inclined to look through all the photos of the event, they might spot a familiar face amongst the crowd... Name and shame that's what I say![/p][/quote]Doubt it - in my time off work I do as I please, just like the unwashed scum that said the march would never go ahead - get a life. garyscott

9:02pm Wed 1 Sep 10

garyscott says...

sine-die wrote:
I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.
Like you have posted your real name ??? get over it you sad indivual....
[quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I take no sides on this one and genuinely accept peoples right to peaceful protest. There is however, one aspect of this matter that concerns me greatly and that is the fact that the city council have in its employment someone with such obscene views as that of 'garyscott'......and working in the housing department of all places!! I have brought this matter to the attention of the chief executive and the leader of the city council. I appreciate that there is little that can be done as 'garyscott', like most vile thugs, will have covered his tracks well but I feel that his views are totally inconsistant with the values and aspirations of both the city council and its residents.[/p][/quote]Like you have posted your real name ??? get over it you sad indivual.... garyscott

9:11pm Wed 1 Sep 10

vulcan sc says...

x amount of policemen, horses, dogs and a helicopter to chaperone 30 zeros singing football songs. What a wonderful outlet for taxpayers money, can't wait til the next bunch of over opinionated morons turn up and march through our city on some self perceived misssion of righteousness at the expense of those of us who live and work here. Sick of the lot of you, go away and do it somewhere else, you're all as unwelcome as each other.
x amount of policemen, horses, dogs and a helicopter to chaperone 30 zeros singing football songs. What a wonderful outlet for taxpayers money, can't wait til the next bunch of over opinionated morons turn up and march through our city on some self perceived misssion of righteousness at the expense of those of us who live and work here. Sick of the lot of you, go away and do it somewhere else, you're all as unwelcome as each other. vulcan sc

9:53pm Wed 1 Sep 10

Carl Bugenhagen says...

I knew this story would get the mail readers frothing. How miserable it must be to be in a permanent state of hate.
I knew this story would get the mail readers frothing. How miserable it must be to be in a permanent state of hate. Carl Bugenhagen

10:43pm Wed 1 Sep 10

pun master says...

To be fair, arguing against people coming into this country and holding up 'Englishness' as an identity is flawed in itself - remember the name England came from the Angles and the Saxons, who migrated into this country, so I guess we all have some immigrant blood in us anyway, so let's just deal with the fact that migration is part and parcel of not only modern, but also ancient life. And of course there is the reasonably strong scientific argument that humankind all originated from Africa as well... And of course much of our knowledge based on maths and science came out of the Middle East as well, a lot of it from the Islamic cultures of the past. And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, I am what you might want to label a 'WASP, but one with an open and non-paranoid mind...
To be fair, arguing against people coming into this country and holding up 'Englishness' as an identity is flawed in itself - remember the name England came from the Angles and the Saxons, who migrated into this country, so I guess we all have some immigrant blood in us anyway, so let's just deal with the fact that migration is part and parcel of not only modern, but also ancient life. And of course there is the reasonably strong scientific argument that humankind all originated from Africa as well... And of course much of our knowledge based on maths and science came out of the Middle East as well, a lot of it from the Islamic cultures of the past. And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, I am what you might want to label a 'WASP, but one with an open and non-paranoid mind... pun master

11:11pm Wed 1 Sep 10

haggis2010 says...

'garyscott', you really are a national treasure! Now, pick your knuckles up from the ground and go back to your cave dear..or are you waiting for wifey to come and drag you back by the hair? Oh wait...you are a chauvinist twit!
'garyscott', you really are a national treasure! Now, pick your knuckles up from the ground and go back to your cave dear..or are you waiting for wifey to come and drag you back by the hair? Oh wait...you are a chauvinist twit! haggis2010

11:26pm Wed 1 Sep 10

haggis2010 says...

Well said pun master! I do fear though, that facts may be too much for some of the bunch on here..to deal with?
Well said pun master! I do fear though, that facts may be too much for some of the bunch on here..to deal with? haggis2010

11:49pm Wed 1 Sep 10

vulcan sc says...

Carl Bugenhagen wrote:
I knew this story would get the mail readers frothing. How miserable it must be to be in a permanent state of hate.
Is it just the mail readers then? From what I saw on monday there was no shortage of guardian reading yoghurt weavers spitting venom. A very unpleasant episode on all counts from both sides. Who on earth are any of you to decide what the rest of us should be thinking and doing?
Go away and get a more fulfilling hobby.
[quote][p][bold]Carl Bugenhagen[/bold] wrote: I knew this story would get the mail readers frothing. How miserable it must be to be in a permanent state of hate.[/p][/quote]Is it just the mail readers then? From what I saw on monday there was no shortage of guardian reading yoghurt weavers spitting venom. A very unpleasant episode on all counts from both sides. Who on earth are any of you to decide what the rest of us should be thinking and doing? Go away and get a more fulfilling hobby. vulcan sc

11:56pm Wed 1 Sep 10

haggis2010 says...

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http://www.englishde fenceleague.org/inde x.php?option=com_con tent&view=article&id =200:english-defence -league-in-berlin&It emid= really does say it all haggis2010

12:22am Thu 2 Sep 10

jasper3 says...

this proves my point . this country is a laughing stock just read the comments above
this proves my point . this country is a laughing stock just read the comments above jasper3

12:48am Thu 2 Sep 10

haggis2010 says...

jasper3, I agree...I have read all the comments around before I placed mine, but..certain matters do concern me..and hell...I am very open minded. In my job..it is part & parcel
jasper3, I agree...I have read all the comments around before I placed mine, but..certain matters do concern me..and hell...I am very open minded. In my job..it is part & parcel haggis2010

3:28am Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

haggis2010 wrote:
'garyscott', you really are a national treasure! Now, pick your knuckles up from the ground and go back to your cave dear..or are you waiting for wifey to come and drag you back by the hair? Oh wait...you are a chauvinist twit!
with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold...
[quote][p][bold]haggis2010[/bold] wrote: 'garyscott', you really are a national treasure! Now, pick your knuckles up from the ground and go back to your cave dear..or are you waiting for wifey to come and drag you back by the hair? Oh wait...you are a chauvinist twit![/p][/quote]with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold... garyscott

7:57am Thu 2 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

We will see you all next August bank holiday and on several peaceful demonstrations in Brighton area before then I would imagine.

Recruitment in Brighton area has been excellent since Monday and people seem sick and tired of Sussex university being a staging posts for attacks on Businesses in Brighton by radical Socialists and they want it stopped, but the local MP's and Councillors really need to 'grow a pair' and start resolving issues with these militant students.

On the 13th of this month they intend to 'smash up' another Company EDO yet again as if they are a law unto themselves and truth of the matter is people would rather a right wing nationalist political opposition to the increasing anarchy created by these scum bags that are terrorising the community, than nothing be done at all.

Any one can be an English Citizen irrespective of race, religion, ethnicity or sexuality and there is nothing racist about being patriotic to our national flag. The only thing that should be ensured is that people who live in this country abide by a single legislative system that is dictated to by democratically elected members of parliament, not religious misogynist zealots living in the middle ages.

People should also be fully accountable to the law as well and if you have a problem politically then challenge it through the ballot boxes and by 'passive protest', not attacking police forces, local communities and destroying recreational facilities such as public houses because you disagree with another faction.

The problem in Brighton are not the patriots, but the student anarchists and their socialist supporters, so perhaps we should consider taking away tax payers money that is supporting the militant students through their education, as they really do not seem appreciative of it at all, nor do many of us want to keep subsidising them either.

One law, one nation
We will see you all next August bank holiday and on several peaceful demonstrations in Brighton area before then I would imagine. Recruitment in Brighton area has been excellent since Monday and people seem sick and tired of Sussex university being a staging posts for attacks on Businesses in Brighton by radical Socialists and they want it stopped, but the local MP's and Councillors really need to 'grow a pair' and start resolving issues with these militant students. On the 13th of this month they intend to 'smash up' another Company EDO yet again as if they are a law unto themselves and truth of the matter is people would rather a right wing nationalist political opposition to the increasing anarchy created by these scum bags that are terrorising the community, than nothing be done at all. Any one can be an English Citizen irrespective of race, religion, ethnicity or sexuality and there is nothing racist about being patriotic to our national flag. The only thing that should be ensured is that people who live in this country abide by a single legislative system that is dictated to by democratically elected members of parliament, not religious misogynist zealots living in the middle ages. People should also be fully accountable to the law as well and if you have a problem politically then challenge it through the ballot boxes and by 'passive protest', not attacking police forces, local communities and destroying recreational facilities such as public houses because you disagree with another faction. The problem in Brighton are not the patriots, but the student anarchists and their socialist supporters, so perhaps we should consider taking away tax payers money that is supporting the militant students through their education, as they really do not seem appreciative of it at all, nor do many of us want to keep subsidising them either. One law, one nation ENA-ADMIN

8:49am Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

I'm exhausted reading all this troll-feeding but:

White-Hawke, you talk the most sense of anyone on this board. I live on a council estate and bitterly resent the middle-class snobbery and squeamishness behind some of the 'liberal' comments.

This gary scott twunt must be tracked down, named and shamed. Views such as his (if genuine) are completely incompatible with public service and he's a waste of a decent job, frankly.

Thassorl
I'm exhausted reading all this troll-feeding but: White-Hawke, you talk the most sense of anyone on this board. I live on a council estate and bitterly resent the middle-class snobbery and squeamishness behind some of the 'liberal' comments. This gary scott twunt must be tracked down, named and shamed. Views such as his (if genuine) are completely incompatible with public service and he's a waste of a decent job, frankly. Thassorl pearlygrey

9:05am Thu 2 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

When you talk about the mysogynist zealots living in the Middle Ages, are you talking about the Pope? In fact it could be most religions, possibly with the exception of Buddhism.
When you talk about the mysogynist zealots living in the Middle Ages, are you talking about the Pope? In fact it could be most religions, possibly with the exception of Buddhism. TheInsider

9:47am Thu 2 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

We live in a modern world that has the ability to determine fact from fiction. While we have the C of E as a basis for our nation based on Christian values, any form of religious inference in social political structures should not be allowed. People who wish to follow religious practices that seek solace and security in case there is actually a life after death, which the majority doubt, should be allowed to do so. But when political ideologies such as Shariah law are placed as a priority over the faith aspects of the Islamic religion and extremists enforce these political ideologies using violence, then we have a problem by some people accepting such values in our society surely.

Christianity rid itself of religious and political persecution when it rid itself of the inquisition in the 1700's and for Islam to be part of modern day social principals it should also do the same. Muslims are not the problem at all and I am sure the vast majority of them want to see Islam come into the modern age, but the radicals that promote Shariah law and ancient methods of punishment through religious persecution are a problem and seem to be growing in numbers within the confines of our national borders.

More 'moderates' need to step forward and condemn the extremists in Islam or extreme right wing radicals are going to continue using this issue against Islam and carry on recruiting support in greater numbers.

The majority of ENA/EDL supporters are not racist nor fascist as most socialist led media would try and have everyone believe, but people who can see the problem and do not want a Yugoslavia type situation occurring in the UK, specifically England.

Our government by allowing Shariah Courts through the mosques are giving a foothold to extremist values and this is unacceptable to many people, no matter what their political motivations are, left or right wing.

When we have Immans forcing Muslim women to go to police stations to drop charges of assault against their violent spouses, then they are not arbitrating at all, but interfering in criminal matters that push the boundaries of what is acceptable in English society and what is not. Domestic violence is for our police to deal with, not religious leaders who consider women as having a 'lower status' than men.

There is enough evidence of these facts available on the internet and it is about time people ripped of their 'blinkers' and looked at what is happening to English society and how our tolerance for freedom of expression and equality is being eroded by foreign religious and political ideologies.
We live in a modern world that has the ability to determine fact from fiction. While we have the C of E as a basis for our nation based on Christian values, any form of religious inference in social political structures should not be allowed. People who wish to follow religious practices that seek solace and security in case there is actually a life after death, which the majority doubt, should be allowed to do so. But when political ideologies such as Shariah law are placed as a priority over the faith aspects of the Islamic religion and extremists enforce these political ideologies using violence, then we have a problem by some people accepting such values in our society surely. Christianity rid itself of religious and political persecution when it rid itself of the inquisition in the 1700's and for Islam to be part of modern day social principals it should also do the same. Muslims are not the problem at all and I am sure the vast majority of them want to see Islam come into the modern age, but the radicals that promote Shariah law and ancient methods of punishment through religious persecution are a problem and seem to be growing in numbers within the confines of our national borders. More 'moderates' need to step forward and condemn the extremists in Islam or extreme right wing radicals are going to continue using this issue against Islam and carry on recruiting support in greater numbers. The majority of ENA/EDL supporters are not racist nor fascist as most socialist led media would try and have everyone believe, but people who can see the problem and do not want a Yugoslavia type situation occurring in the UK, specifically England. Our government by allowing Shariah Courts through the mosques are giving a foothold to extremist values and this is unacceptable to many people, no matter what their political motivations are, left or right wing. When we have Immans forcing Muslim women to go to police stations to drop charges of assault against their violent spouses, then they are not arbitrating at all, but interfering in criminal matters that push the boundaries of what is acceptable in English society and what is not. Domestic violence is for our police to deal with, not religious leaders who consider women as having a 'lower status' than men. There is enough evidence of these facts available on the internet and it is about time people ripped of their 'blinkers' and looked at what is happening to English society and how our tolerance for freedom of expression and equality is being eroded by foreign religious and political ideologies. ENA-ADMIN

9:47am Thu 2 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

We live in a modern world that has the ability to determine fact from fiction. While we have the C of E as a basis for our nation based on Christian values, any form of religious inference in social political structures should not be allowed. People who wish to follow religious practices that seek solace and security in case there is actually a life after death, which the majority doubt, should be allowed to do so. But when political ideologies such as Shariah law are placed as a priority over the faith aspects of the Islamic religion and extremists enforce these political ideologies using violence, then we have a problem by some people accepting such values in our society surely.

Christianity rid itself of religious and political persecution when it rid itself of the inquisition in the 1700's and for Islam to be part of modern day social principals it should also do the same. Muslims are not the problem at all and I am sure the vast majority of them want to see Islam come into the modern age, but the radicals that promote Shariah law and ancient methods of punishment through religious persecution are a problem and seem to be growing in numbers within the confines of our national borders.

More 'moderates' need to step forward and condemn the extremists in Islam or extreme right wing radicals are going to continue using this issue against Islam and carry on recruiting support in greater numbers.

The majority of ENA/EDL supporters are not racist nor fascist as most socialist led media would try and have everyone believe, but people who can see the problem and do not want a Yugoslavia type situation occurring in the UK, specifically England.

Our government by allowing Shariah Courts through the mosques are giving a foothold to extremist values and this is unacceptable to many people, no matter what their political motivations are, left or right wing.

When we have Immans forcing Muslim women to go to police stations to drop charges of assault against their violent spouses, then they are not arbitrating at all, but interfering in criminal matters that push the boundaries of what is acceptable in English society and what is not. Domestic violence is for our police to deal with, not religious leaders who consider women as having a 'lower status' than men.

There is enough evidence of these facts available on the internet and it is about time people ripped of their 'blinkers' and looked at what is happening to English society and how our tolerance for freedom of expression and equality is being eroded by foreign religious and political ideologies.
We live in a modern world that has the ability to determine fact from fiction. While we have the C of E as a basis for our nation based on Christian values, any form of religious inference in social political structures should not be allowed. People who wish to follow religious practices that seek solace and security in case there is actually a life after death, which the majority doubt, should be allowed to do so. But when political ideologies such as Shariah law are placed as a priority over the faith aspects of the Islamic religion and extremists enforce these political ideologies using violence, then we have a problem by some people accepting such values in our society surely. Christianity rid itself of religious and political persecution when it rid itself of the inquisition in the 1700's and for Islam to be part of modern day social principals it should also do the same. Muslims are not the problem at all and I am sure the vast majority of them want to see Islam come into the modern age, but the radicals that promote Shariah law and ancient methods of punishment through religious persecution are a problem and seem to be growing in numbers within the confines of our national borders. More 'moderates' need to step forward and condemn the extremists in Islam or extreme right wing radicals are going to continue using this issue against Islam and carry on recruiting support in greater numbers. The majority of ENA/EDL supporters are not racist nor fascist as most socialist led media would try and have everyone believe, but people who can see the problem and do not want a Yugoslavia type situation occurring in the UK, specifically England. Our government by allowing Shariah Courts through the mosques are giving a foothold to extremist values and this is unacceptable to many people, no matter what their political motivations are, left or right wing. When we have Immans forcing Muslim women to go to police stations to drop charges of assault against their violent spouses, then they are not arbitrating at all, but interfering in criminal matters that push the boundaries of what is acceptable in English society and what is not. Domestic violence is for our police to deal with, not religious leaders who consider women as having a 'lower status' than men. There is enough evidence of these facts available on the internet and it is about time people ripped of their 'blinkers' and looked at what is happening to English society and how our tolerance for freedom of expression and equality is being eroded by foreign religious and political ideologies. ENA-ADMIN

10:10am Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

ENA/EDL...? Do me a favour. When was the last time you heard of a BNP march or BNP supporters causing problems in one of our cities? Not for a long time...why? BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO EDL. These nitwits think they can just change their name and rebrand. However, evidence suggests VERY strongly that EDL are a fascist, and VIOLENT organisation whose members have convictions as long as your arm.
So ENA/ADMIN...who created the EDL webpage....and...TRY to tell the truth.
ENA/EDL...? Do me a favour. When was the last time you heard of a BNP march or BNP supporters causing problems in one of our cities? Not for a long time...why? BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO EDL. These nitwits think they can just change their name and rebrand. However, evidence suggests VERY strongly that EDL are a fascist, and VIOLENT organisation whose members have convictions as long as your arm. So ENA/ADMIN...who created the EDL webpage....and...TRY to tell the truth. daveinprague

10:14am Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

And im not suggesting the BNP have changed their name, but that MANY of their VIOLENT supporters now march under the EDL banner, mainly due to the splits that has occurred within the BNP. To try and convince people that EDL is neither racist or violent is probably one of the most ridiculous statements ive seen on the comments page so far.
And im not suggesting the BNP have changed their name, but that MANY of their VIOLENT supporters now march under the EDL banner, mainly due to the splits that has occurred within the BNP. To try and convince people that EDL is neither racist or violent is probably one of the most ridiculous statements ive seen on the comments page so far. daveinprague

10:44am Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

pearlygrey wrote:
I'm exhausted reading all this troll-feeding but:

White-Hawke, you talk the most sense of anyone on this board. I live on a council estate and bitterly resent the middle-class snobbery and squeamishness behind some of the 'liberal' comments.

This gary scott twunt must be tracked down, named and shamed. Views such as his (if genuine) are completely incompatible with public service and he's a waste of a decent job, frankly.

Thassorl
with the track record of you dumb people - you couldnt track an odds on fave at the racetrack - you are a shower of s***.
[quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: I'm exhausted reading all this troll-feeding but: White-Hawke, you talk the most sense of anyone on this board. I live on a council estate and bitterly resent the middle-class snobbery and squeamishness behind some of the 'liberal' comments. This gary scott twunt must be tracked down, named and shamed. Views such as his (if genuine) are completely incompatible with public service and he's a waste of a decent job, frankly. Thassorl[/p][/quote]with the track record of you dumb people - you couldnt track an odds on fave at the racetrack - you are a shower of s***. garyscott

11:12am Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

but, can EASILY track 30 Chav/Asbo marchers.
but, can EASILY track 30 Chav/Asbo marchers. daveinprague

12:13pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

daveinprague wrote:
but, can EASILY track 30 Chav/Asbo marchers.
Come ahead then... but u wont as u need a couple of hundred cheap wine drinkers behind you - toothless tigers...
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: but, can EASILY track 30 Chav/Asbo marchers.[/p][/quote]Come ahead then... but u wont as u need a couple of hundred cheap wine drinkers behind you - toothless tigers... garyscott

12:37pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

I dont need nothing son. You seem to be under the delusion that all anti fascists are students. We are not, and we have a superb track record of ROUTING rightwing marches. If we are toothless tigers, you are definitely ****.
Ive seen more right wing marches run that you have had hot dinners sunshine. I was one of the Red Action people that the police conveniently mis identified and put us in with the fascists in Brick Lane.. during the book protests...and the fascists RAN for their lives, so dont try and give it the big bad boy.
I dont need nothing son. You seem to be under the delusion that all anti fascists are students. We are not, and we have a superb track record of ROUTING rightwing marches. If we are toothless tigers, you are definitely ****. Ive seen more right wing marches run that you have had hot dinners sunshine. I was one of the Red Action people that the police conveniently mis identified and put us in with the fascists in Brick Lane.. during the book protests...and the fascists RAN for their lives, so dont try and give it the big bad boy. daveinprague

12:54pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Burgess901 says...

Comments from the other side.

Who are the troublemakers now?
ENA marched peacefully, rent-a-mob, anti fascist lot resorted to violence.

http://www.indymedia
.org.uk/en/2010/08/4
57842.html?c=on#c254
577
Comments from the other side. Who are the troublemakers now? ENA marched peacefully, rent-a-mob, anti fascist lot resorted to violence. http://www.indymedia .org.uk/en/2010/08/4 57842.html?c=on#c254 577 Burgess901

1:03pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

daveinprague wrote:
I dont need nothing son. You seem to be under the delusion that all anti fascists are students. We are not, and we have a superb track record of ROUTING rightwing marches. If we are toothless tigers, you are definitely ****.
Ive seen more right wing marches run that you have had hot dinners sunshine. I was one of the Red Action people that the police conveniently mis identified and put us in with the fascists in Brick Lane.. during the book protests...and the fascists RAN for their lives, so dont try and give it the big bad boy.
u mean ur a keyboard warrior on ur little toy laptop - grow up...
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: I dont need nothing son. You seem to be under the delusion that all anti fascists are students. We are not, and we have a superb track record of ROUTING rightwing marches. If we are toothless tigers, you are definitely ****. Ive seen more right wing marches run that you have had hot dinners sunshine. I was one of the Red Action people that the police conveniently mis identified and put us in with the fascists in Brick Lane.. during the book protests...and the fascists RAN for their lives, so dont try and give it the big bad boy.[/p][/quote]u mean ur a keyboard warrior on ur little toy laptop - grow up... garyscott

1:07pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

Next time im in UK, ill be quite willing to let you have the opportunity to have a 'chat'..I seriously doubt you have the bottle to show up though....youre the nitwit giving it the bigun and attempting to be a little bad boy fascist, but REAL experience tells me youre another runner.

and to the person who posted the link to the indiemedia site...thanks...i particularly enjoyed..

The following crowd of anti-fascists, chanting “Fascist scum, off our streets!” were cheered by bystanders.

so thanks for that...
Next time im in UK, ill be quite willing to let you have the opportunity to have a 'chat'..I seriously doubt you have the bottle to show up though....youre the nitwit giving it the bigun and attempting to be a little bad boy fascist, but REAL experience tells me youre another runner. and to the person who posted the link to the indiemedia site...thanks...i particularly enjoyed.. The following crowd of anti-fascists, chanting “Fascist scum, off our streets!” were cheered by bystanders. so thanks for that... daveinprague

1:19pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Burgess901 says...

DaveinPrague: You miss the point, unless you think it is OK to use violence against people who have different views than yourself?
You will only ever see what you want to see.
DaveinPrague: You miss the point, unless you think it is OK to use violence against people who have different views than yourself? You will only ever see what you want to see. Burgess901

1:31pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive.
I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive. daveinprague

2:06pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

daveinprague wrote:
I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive.
why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive.[/p][/quote]why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style... garyscott

2:11pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Burgess901 says...

mmm, sole intention was to march through Brighton and have speeches, otherwise it would of kicked off at the bottom of New England Road (a few police only).
Throwing a few chairs about in a pub is different from hurling bottles and missiles at people.
ENA make all the noise, but if you read some of the comments from that link I posted, the anti fash people make direct violent threats and taunts, and some are even anti UAF.
I put it to you that both parties are as bad as each other.
Views are just views until one side acts with violence, and if you are happy to use violence you are no better than them.
mmm, sole intention was to march through Brighton and have speeches, otherwise it would of kicked off at the bottom of New England Road (a few police only). Throwing a few chairs about in a pub is different from hurling bottles and missiles at people. ENA make all the noise, but if you read some of the comments from that link I posted, the anti fash people make direct violent threats and taunts, and some are even anti UAF. I put it to you that both parties are as bad as each other. Views are just views until one side acts with violence, and if you are happy to use violence you are no better than them. Burgess901

2:18pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

garyscott wrote:
daveinprague wrote: I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive.
why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...
Running in the virtual world as well. Respect is due.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: I really dont have a problem confronting people whose sole intention is to bring violence to Brighton streets. If you really think they intended to have a 'peaceful' march, then sorry, I believe you are being a bit naive.[/p][/quote]why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...[/p][/quote]Running in the virtual world as well. Respect is due. daveinprague

2:21pm Thu 2 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

The comments relating to violent confrontation merely proves the point and why the ENA will grow in strength. Socialism and anarchist values are a dying breed and some people really need to get over themselves.

Many people voted BNP because there was no right wing alternative and in protest, but do not realise the hidden agenda of its leadership. The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences. Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex that drives his rhetoric and anti English bile and is further proof that his 'type' are the problem in England, not the patriots. We all have a right to democratic principals and to be able to passively protest against political or social issues we object to. We also have the right to self defence if attacked by scum like Daveinprague who as all can see is openly committed to anarchy and violence as a means to put their argument forward, which makes them losers straight away.

The EDL is gathering thousands of new supporters each week and by doing so the political issues that the ENA represent will be heard and tested at the ballot boxes, which could only be stopped by the outbreak of civil conflict, which seems a path the anarchists and socialists are seeking to try and save themselves from extinction
The comments relating to violent confrontation merely proves the point and why the ENA will grow in strength. Socialism and anarchist values are a dying breed and some people really need to get over themselves. Many people voted BNP because there was no right wing alternative and in protest, but do not realise the hidden agenda of its leadership. The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences. Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex that drives his rhetoric and anti English bile and is further proof that his 'type' are the problem in England, not the patriots. We all have a right to democratic principals and to be able to passively protest against political or social issues we object to. We also have the right to self defence if attacked by scum like Daveinprague who as all can see is openly committed to anarchy and violence as a means to put their argument forward, which makes them losers straight away. The EDL is gathering thousands of new supporters each week and by doing so the political issues that the ENA represent will be heard and tested at the ballot boxes, which could only be stopped by the outbreak of civil conflict, which seems a path the anarchists and socialists are seeking to try and save themselves from extinction ENA-ADMIN

2:27pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

LOL yeah, 30 ENA asbo/chav marchers shows the dramatic growth.
Fascists flap their gums all the time about the 'legions' of members, but somehow, they are always outnumbered when they march.
LOL yeah, 30 ENA asbo/chav marchers shows the dramatic growth. Fascists flap their gums all the time about the 'legions' of members, but somehow, they are always outnumbered when they march. daveinprague

2:28pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

ENA-ADMIN wrote:
The comments relating to violent confrontation merely proves the point and why the ENA will grow in strength. Socialism and anarchist values are a dying breed and some people really need to get over themselves.

Many people voted BNP because there was no right wing alternative and in protest, but do not realise the hidden agenda of its leadership. The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences. Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex that drives his rhetoric and anti English bile and is further proof that his 'type' are the problem in England, not the patriots. We all have a right to democratic principals and to be able to passively protest against political or social issues we object to. We also have the right to self defence if attacked by scum like Daveinprague who as all can see is openly committed to anarchy and violence as a means to put their argument forward, which makes them losers straight away.

The EDL is gathering thousands of new supporters each week and by doing so the political issues that the ENA represent will be heard and tested at the ballot boxes, which could only be stopped by the outbreak of civil conflict, which seems a path the anarchists and socialists are seeking to try and save themselves from extinction
hear hear well said sir...
[quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: The comments relating to violent confrontation merely proves the point and why the ENA will grow in strength. Socialism and anarchist values are a dying breed and some people really need to get over themselves. Many people voted BNP because there was no right wing alternative and in protest, but do not realise the hidden agenda of its leadership. The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences. Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex that drives his rhetoric and anti English bile and is further proof that his 'type' are the problem in England, not the patriots. We all have a right to democratic principals and to be able to passively protest against political or social issues we object to. We also have the right to self defence if attacked by scum like Daveinprague who as all can see is openly committed to anarchy and violence as a means to put their argument forward, which makes them losers straight away. The EDL is gathering thousands of new supporters each week and by doing so the political issues that the ENA represent will be heard and tested at the ballot boxes, which could only be stopped by the outbreak of civil conflict, which seems a path the anarchists and socialists are seeking to try and save themselves from extinction[/p][/quote]hear hear well said sir... garyscott

2:37pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

Look forward to having a good laugh at your electoral successes....AGAIN.



'Many people voted BNP'
HAHA
Look forward to having a good laugh at your electoral successes....AGAIN. 'Many people voted BNP' HAHA daveinprague

2:39pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

daveinprague wrote:
Look forward to having a good laugh at your electoral successes....AGAIN.



'Many people voted BNP'
HAHA
go and have a bath ya smelly dosser...
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: Look forward to having a good laugh at your electoral successes....AGAIN. 'Many people voted BNP' HAHA[/p][/quote]go and have a bath ya smelly dosser... garyscott

4:52pm Thu 2 Sep 10

DougM says...

garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder.
Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth.
God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you.
garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder. Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth. God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you. DougM

6:18pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.
how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets. pearlygrey

6:18pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

'Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex'

Yeah, and you seem to have a ''mad as
bucket of frogs complex.'' What a lot of waffle to say...nothing.

''The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences''

Sentiments praised by the people on this message board who write this sort of thing...and was on your march

''why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...''

''with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold...''

''of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ???''

etc etc....



YOUR WAFFLE IS JUST THAT....WAFFLE
'Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex' Yeah, and you seem to have a ''mad as bucket of frogs complex.'' What a lot of waffle to say...nothing. ''The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences'' Sentiments praised by the people on this message board who write this sort of thing...and was on your march ''why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...'' ''with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold...'' ''of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ???'' etc etc.... YOUR WAFFLE IS JUST THAT....WAFFLE daveinprague

6:50pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

pearlygrey wrote:
how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.
I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.
[quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.[/p][/quote]I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life. garyscott

6:58pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

garyscott wrote:
pearlygrey wrote:
how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.
I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.
And "scum like me are.....?"

Go on. I'm very interested to hear how you are helping me.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.[/p][/quote]I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.[/p][/quote]And "scum like me are.....?" Go on. I'm very interested to hear how you are helping me. pearlygrey

7:01pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

pearlygrey wrote:
how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.
I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.
[quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.[/p][/quote]I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life. garyscott

7:03pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

Come on, gaz - don't go all shy on us, now.
Come on, gaz - don't go all shy on us, now. pearlygrey

7:04pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

DougM wrote:
garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder.
Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth.
God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you.
whats your real name ? Abdul ? Go home - your not English...
[quote][p][bold]DougM[/bold] wrote: garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder. Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth. God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you.[/p][/quote]whats your real name ? Abdul ? Go home - your not English... garyscott

7:05pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

Still waiting...."our customer service advisers are dealing with other calls. Pleas hold, or try again later"
Still waiting...."our customer service advisers are dealing with other calls. Pleas hold, or try again later" pearlygrey

7:06pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

daveinprague wrote:
'Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex'

Yeah, and you seem to have a ''mad as
bucket of frogs complex.'' What a lot of waffle to say...nothing.

''The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences''

Sentiments praised by the people on this message board who write this sort of thing...and was on your march

''why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...''

''with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold...''

''of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ???''

etc etc....



YOUR WAFFLE IS JUST THAT....WAFFLE
And you are completely SAD.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: 'Daveinprague seems to have an inferiority complex' Yeah, and you seem to have a ''mad as bucket of frogs complex.'' What a lot of waffle to say...nothing. ''The ENA will create viable alternatives for patriots to vote for on the basis of an inclusive unity for everyone that is an English Citizen, no matter what their ethnicity or sexual preferences'' Sentiments praised by the people on this message board who write this sort of thing...and was on your march ''why dont u just stay in prague - plenty little boys over there for ya - more ur style...'' ''with a name like yours, you are obviously scottish - i.e. another foreigner, so why not jog on back across the border where you came from or is it too cold...'' ''of course i went on the march - nothing illegal about that ???'' etc etc.... YOUR WAFFLE IS JUST THAT....WAFFLE[/p][/quote]And you are completely SAD. garyscott

7:10pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

pearlygrey wrote:
garyscott wrote:
pearlygrey wrote:
how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.
I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.
And "scum like me are.....?"

Go on. I'm very interested to hear how you are helping me.
Well you see I work at the homeless section of the Council and as you dont belong in this country - effectively you should be driven out. Of course I am selective on who I help most.
[quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pearlygrey[/bold] wrote: how can 'gary scott' have a job at all? He's always on this board masturbating over the negative feedback he gets.[/p][/quote]I have a very good job - unfortunately it's helping scum like you - go and get a life.[/p][/quote]And "scum like me are.....?" Go on. I'm very interested to hear how you are helping me.[/p][/quote]Well you see I work at the homeless section of the Council and as you dont belong in this country - effectively you should be driven out. Of course I am selective on who I help most. garyscott

7:12pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

garyscott: That's funny - because I work in what the uninitiated would call the "homeless section" of the council too! What are you doing tonight?
garyscott: That's funny - because I work in what the uninitiated would call the "homeless section" of the council too! What are you doing tonight? pearlygrey

7:13pm Thu 2 Sep 10

sine-die says...

I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up......
I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up...... sine-die

7:20pm Thu 2 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

So without any alternative argument or reasoning, you try to hide your lack of ability in engaging in intellectual debate on the issue by throwing insults around and feeble attempts at disregarding my post as waffle.

I think you have been found very wanting Dave and without significance in anything you have posted so far.
So without any alternative argument or reasoning, you try to hide your lack of ability in engaging in intellectual debate on the issue by throwing insults around and feeble attempts at disregarding my post as waffle. I think you have been found very wanting Dave and without significance in anything you have posted so far. ENA-ADMIN

7:22pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

sine-die wrote:
I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up......
LOL at last someone with sense :-)
[quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up......[/p][/quote]LOL at last someone with sense :-) garyscott

7:30pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

garyscott wrote:
sine-die wrote:
I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up......
LOL at last someone with sense :-)
Now come on, Gaz. You don't get off that lightly. What section of the Mental Health Act are you currently subject to?
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sine-die[/bold] wrote: I'm begining to think that 'garyscott' is really not a racist nor a homophobe at all and that he just wants to wind us poor bastards up......[/p][/quote]LOL at last someone with sense :-)[/p][/quote]Now come on, Gaz. You don't get off that lightly. What section of the Mental Health Act are you currently subject to? pearlygrey

7:31pm Thu 2 Sep 10

workingmama says...

If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered.

To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read. workingmama

7:37pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

workingmama wrote:
If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered.

To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
I think he either knows this all too well, wm or else it's a total lie. The lingo he uses suggests he don't know jack about the 'homeless section' of the council (thank god!).
[quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]I think he either knows this all too well, wm or else it's a total lie. The lingo he uses suggests he don't know jack about the 'homeless section' of the council (thank god!). pearlygrey

7:39pm Thu 2 Sep 10

garyscott says...

workingmama wrote:
If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered.

To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
ok i'll have a read.......done. Thanks for the advice.
[quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]ok i'll have a read.......done. Thanks for the advice. garyscott

7:49pm Thu 2 Sep 10

workingmama says...

I agree pearlgrey.
I agree pearlgrey. workingmama

7:52pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

Gaz, I'm very disappointed. You've still not responded to my request for more info.

And after I reached out to you, as a fellow council "homeless section" worker (small world, ain't it?)

You keep replying to other posters. It's almost as if you're afraid of those close to you. I understand. Plenty of people have intimacy issues - a lot of them are "homeless scum" like the poor wretches you strive daily to "help".
Gaz, I'm very disappointed. You've still not responded to my request for more info. And after I reached out to you, as a fellow council "homeless section" worker (small world, ain't it?) You keep replying to other posters. It's almost as if you're afraid of those close to you. I understand. Plenty of people have intimacy issues - a lot of them are "homeless scum" like the poor wretches you strive daily to "help". pearlygrey

7:52pm Thu 2 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

During the world cup, the police issued a warning to women in the UK that they were at a higher risk of domestic violence as their football mad partners/brothers/fa
thers might get drunk and angry at a bad result and batter them.
The same message goes out at Christmas time too. The main date on the Christian calendar.
So much for the English telling other people how to live their lives. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
And there are people banging on about Sharia law and oppressed muslim women.
It beggars belief.
We need to get our own house in order really.
During the world cup, the police issued a warning to women in the UK that they were at a higher risk of domestic violence as their football mad partners/brothers/fa thers might get drunk and angry at a bad result and batter them. The same message goes out at Christmas time too. The main date on the Christian calendar. So much for the English telling other people how to live their lives. We should be ashamed of ourselves. And there are people banging on about Sharia law and oppressed muslim women. It beggars belief. We need to get our own house in order really. TheInsider

7:56pm Thu 2 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

TheInsider wrote:
During the world cup, the police issued a warning to women in the UK that they were at a higher risk of domestic violence as their football mad partners/brothers/fa

thers might get drunk and angry at a bad result and batter them.
The same message goes out at Christmas time too. The main date on the Christian calendar.
So much for the English telling other people how to live their lives. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
And there are people banging on about Sharia law and oppressed muslim women.
It beggars belief.
We need to get our own house in order really.
100% spot on, Insider. I wonder if Gaz has a girlfriend and if so, does he batter her?
[quote][p][bold]TheInsider[/bold] wrote: During the world cup, the police issued a warning to women in the UK that they were at a higher risk of domestic violence as their football mad partners/brothers/fa thers might get drunk and angry at a bad result and batter them. The same message goes out at Christmas time too. The main date on the Christian calendar. So much for the English telling other people how to live their lives. We should be ashamed of ourselves. And there are people banging on about Sharia law and oppressed muslim women. It beggars belief. We need to get our own house in order really.[/p][/quote]100% spot on, Insider. I wonder if Gaz has a girlfriend and if so, does he batter her? pearlygrey

8:32pm Thu 2 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

ENA-ADMIN wrote:
So without any alternative argument or reasoning, you try to hide your lack of ability in engaging in intellectual debate on the issue by throwing insults around and feeble attempts at disregarding my post as waffle. I think you have been found very wanting Dave and without significance in anything you have posted so far.
Its WAFFLE...a load of WAFFLE..you claim your organisation, for want of a better word, is for people regardless of their ethnicity, or sexual orientation....appla
uded by the likes of Gareth on this comments section...who on this board has claimed to be on your chav/asbo march, and has been liberally throwing around racial and homophobic insults. Nitwits like you are there to take the mickey out of . You talk a load of WAFFLE...get it yet?
Every single year, you people drone on and on about your burgeoning support, and every year, it comes to what? Tell me? Its alot of WAFFLE that any normal Englishman can see it for what it is. You talk about me having an inferiority complex....im not marching and whinging about how im being denied anything...its you with the inferiority complex, gained from realising youre a nobody, going nowhere.
Goodnight
[quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: So without any alternative argument or reasoning, you try to hide your lack of ability in engaging in intellectual debate on the issue by throwing insults around and feeble attempts at disregarding my post as waffle. I think you have been found very wanting Dave and without significance in anything you have posted so far.[/p][/quote]Its WAFFLE...a load of WAFFLE..you claim your organisation, for want of a better word, is for people regardless of their ethnicity, or sexual orientation....appla uded by the likes of Gareth on this comments section...who on this board has claimed to be on your chav/asbo march, and has been liberally throwing around racial and homophobic insults. Nitwits like you are there to take the mickey out of . You talk a load of WAFFLE...get it yet? Every single year, you people drone on and on about your burgeoning support, and every year, it comes to what? Tell me? Its alot of WAFFLE that any normal Englishman can see it for what it is. You talk about me having an inferiority complex....im not marching and whinging about how im being denied anything...its you with the inferiority complex, gained from realising youre a nobody, going nowhere. Goodnight daveinprague

10:41pm Thu 2 Sep 10

DougM says...

garyscott wrote:
DougM wrote:
garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder.
Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth.
God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you.
whats your real name ? Abdul ? Go home - your not English...
I'm more English than you'll ever be; you certainly don't deserve to live in a privileged country like ours.
[quote][p][bold]garyscott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DougM[/bold] wrote: garyscott, you are the very dregs of our society, a bottom-feeder. Without you or your sort our country would be a more peaceful and pleasant place. Unfortunately such is the way of freedom and democracy that you are still allowed to be here leaching and polluting with your bile and filth. God help any of our children who come into contact with a germ like you.[/p][/quote]whats your real name ? Abdul ? Go home - your not English...[/p][/quote]I'm more English than you'll ever be; you certainly don't deserve to live in a privileged country like ours. DougM

11:04pm Thu 2 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

workingmama wrote:
If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
[quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda chris elmes

8:44am Fri 3 Sep 10

Andy R says...

chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........

A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
[quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge! Andy R

9:23am Fri 3 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

RightWing nerds have an inferiority complex.
RightWing nerds have an inferiority complex. daveinprague

9:25am Fri 3 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

At least Chris has 'one of his own' on the inside of BHCC...

Talking of whom, where IS gary scott this morning? Busy 'helping' the homeless, foreign "scum"?

Come back, Gaz - I miss you.
At least Chris has 'one of his own' on the inside of BHCC... Talking of whom, where IS gary scott this morning? Busy 'helping' the homeless, foreign "scum"? Come back, Gaz - I miss you. pearlygrey

1:32pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

The facts on Shariah law

http://www.englishna
tionalistalliance.or
g/index.php?option=c
om_content&view=arti
cle&id=20:the-case-a
gainst-sharia-courts
-and-laws-in-great-b
ritain&catid=4:front
page
The facts on Shariah law http://www.englishna tionalistalliance.or g/index.php?option=c om_content&view=arti cle&id=20:the-case-a gainst-sharia-courts -and-laws-in-great-b ritain&catid=4:front page ENA-ADMIN

1:32pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

The facts on Shariah law

http://www.englishna
tionalistalliance.or
g/index.php?option=c
om_content&view=arti
cle&id=20:the-case-a
gainst-sharia-courts
-and-laws-in-great-b
ritain&catid=4:front
page
The facts on Shariah law http://www.englishna tionalistalliance.or g/index.php?option=c om_content&view=arti cle&id=20:the-case-a gainst-sharia-courts -and-laws-in-great-b ritain&catid=4:front page ENA-ADMIN

1:37pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

Seems daveinprague is stuttering and incapable of any sensible comment rather than repeating statements by others! What a cop out! Not that it bothers us as the ENA will keep coming back to Brighton and supporting English values and there is nothing you can do at all to stop our right to peaceful protest.
Seems daveinprague is stuttering and incapable of any sensible comment rather than repeating statements by others! What a cop out! Not that it bothers us as the ENA will keep coming back to Brighton and supporting English values and there is nothing you can do at all to stop our right to peaceful protest. ENA-ADMIN

2:01pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Number Six says...

I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066.

Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values? Number Six

2:48pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

Go onto our website they are there for all to see.

English Citizen is not restricted by race, religion, sexuality or ethnicity and all that should be a prerequisite to being accepted as an English Citizen is that you intend to abide by a single legislative system that is passed democratically through democratic principals
Go onto our website they are there for all to see. English Citizen is not restricted by race, religion, sexuality or ethnicity and all that should be a prerequisite to being accepted as an English Citizen is that you intend to abide by a single legislative system that is passed democratically through democratic principals ENA-ADMIN

2:53pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

Number Six wrote:
I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066.

Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance:
1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation.
2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes.
3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference.
4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality.
5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state.
6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system.
7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders.
8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?[/p][/quote]Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown. ENA-ADMIN

3:47pm Fri 3 Sep 10

daveinprague says...

ENA-ADMIN..a rather dramatic title...so, let me spell it out for you numpty... your organisation is rather stupid...it is INSIGNIFICANT in English politics, and the ENA/EDL attracts the RACIST morons that used to follow the BNP.
It will have the SAME electoral success as the NF, BNP, and more recently the EDL halfwits.... ie embarrassing defeat.
Keep sending money to the government kitty with your lost deposits.
At least youre doing something worthwhile for the country.

oh yeah..keep coming to Brighton.. Its not like people like you havnt come before, and been confronted by 3 or 4 times your number....see if you can muster 35 for the next Chav/Asbo march.
ENA-ADMIN..a rather dramatic title...so, let me spell it out for you numpty... your organisation is rather stupid...it is INSIGNIFICANT in English politics, and the ENA/EDL attracts the RACIST morons that used to follow the BNP. It will have the SAME electoral success as the NF, BNP, and more recently the EDL halfwits.... ie embarrassing defeat. Keep sending money to the government kitty with your lost deposits. At least youre doing something worthwhile for the country. oh yeah..keep coming to Brighton.. Its not like people like you havnt come before, and been confronted by 3 or 4 times your number....see if you can muster 35 for the next Chav/Asbo march. daveinprague

6:04pm Fri 3 Sep 10

pearlygrey says...

ENA-ADMIN, you are gary scott and I claim my £100!
ENA-ADMIN, you are gary scott and I claim my £100! pearlygrey

6:49pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Number Six says...

ENA-ADMIN wrote:
Number Six wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.
That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena?

That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values
[quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?[/p][/quote]Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.[/p][/quote]That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena? That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values Number Six

9:59pm Fri 3 Sep 10

ENA-ADMIN says...

Number Six wrote:
ENA-ADMIN wrote:
Number Six wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.
That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena?

That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values
They are the views of a growing English nationalist group and will be fought at the polls, not on the streets as you socialist thugs would like. More the anarchists and militant students carry on with their lawless attitude the more support we gain as people are sick of them
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?[/p][/quote]Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.[/p][/quote]That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena? That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values[/p][/quote]They are the views of a growing English nationalist group and will be fought at the polls, not on the streets as you socialist thugs would like. More the anarchists and militant students carry on with their lawless attitude the more support we gain as people are sick of them ENA-ADMIN

2:44am Sat 4 Sep 10

Jonny Knows says...

ENA-ADMIN,you say you aren't a racist or homophobic organisation.In that case do you condemn the racist and homophobic actions of some of those on your march?Will you ban those who were giving nazi salutes from your next march?If there is a repeat of such behaviour,racist chanting,homophobic shouting,nazi salutes etc will you throw these people off your march and tell them to never attend again?
ENA-ADMIN,you say you aren't a racist or homophobic organisation.In that case do you condemn the racist and homophobic actions of some of those on your march?Will you ban those who were giving nazi salutes from your next march?If there is a repeat of such behaviour,racist chanting,homophobic shouting,nazi salutes etc will you throw these people off your march and tell them to never attend again? Jonny Knows

3:58am Sat 4 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge![/p][/quote]Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make. chris elmes

4:11am Sat 4 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

daveinprague, Prague says...
9:23am Fri 3 Sep 10

RightWing nerds have an inferiority complex.
pearlygrey, Brighton says...
9:25am Fri 3 Sep 10

At least Chris has 'one of his own' on the inside of BHCC...

Talking of whom, where IS gary scott this morning? Busy 'helping' the homeless, foreign "scum"?

Come back, Gaz - I miss you

As I said to Andy R read all the posts I've made on this thread and consider what I've actually said."engage brain before opening mouth"(or in this case before putting finger to keyboard)!
daveinprague, Prague says... 9:23am Fri 3 Sep 10 RightWing nerds have an inferiority complex. pearlygrey, Brighton says... 9:25am Fri 3 Sep 10 At least Chris has 'one of his own' on the inside of BHCC... Talking of whom, where IS gary scott this morning? Busy 'helping' the homeless, foreign "scum"? Come back, Gaz - I miss you As I said to Andy R read all the posts I've made on this thread and consider what I've actually said."engage brain before opening mouth"(or in this case before putting finger to keyboard)! chris elmes

9:44am Sat 4 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

Number 6 on Ena Sharples wish list will probably mean most of their own supporters get left out in the cold health/benefit wise.
I cannot believe that many of those in the photos are in employment.
They look so unkempt and socially deprived, it would be my estimation that they are in a very low income/benefit bracket.
Now they probably blame 'migrants' for taking jobs, but even when there was full employment in the UK we had groups of UK people still failing to apply for jobs.
I think The Argus should interview these marchers and let's get some information on their backgrounds.
When Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time there was uproar about him appearing.
It was the best thing the BBC ever did. We saw him in full glory. Poorly educated, inarticulate, weak and now the party is almost bankrupt and support has dwindled and seats lost. It's finished.
It will be the same with this lot.
Come on Argus, interview shabby, filthy-toothed man at the front and let's find out if he works, if he is law abiding, if he contributes to English society and some of the others seen in The Argus. I think we will find it makes interesting reading.
Lay bare the truth.
Number 6 on Ena Sharples wish list will probably mean most of their own supporters get left out in the cold health/benefit wise. I cannot believe that many of those in the photos are in employment. They look so unkempt and socially deprived, it would be my estimation that they are in a very low income/benefit bracket. Now they probably blame 'migrants' for taking jobs, but even when there was full employment in the UK we had groups of UK people still failing to apply for jobs. I think The Argus should interview these marchers and let's get some information on their backgrounds. When Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time there was uproar about him appearing. It was the best thing the BBC ever did. We saw him in full glory. Poorly educated, inarticulate, weak and now the party is almost bankrupt and support has dwindled and seats lost. It's finished. It will be the same with this lot. Come on Argus, interview shabby, filthy-toothed man at the front and let's find out if he works, if he is law abiding, if he contributes to English society and some of the others seen in The Argus. I think we will find it makes interesting reading. Lay bare the truth. TheInsider

10:43am Sat 4 Sep 10

Number Six says...

ENA-ADMIN wrote:
Number Six wrote:
ENA-ADMIN wrote:
Number Six wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.
That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena? That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values
They are the views of a growing English nationalist group and will be fought at the polls, not on the streets as you socialist thugs would like. More the anarchists and militant students carry on with their lawless attitude the more support we gain as people are sick of them
You have a rare talent for being wrong, which is well. Otherwise you would have no talent at all. If I may light a candle in the stygian blackness of your mind most of my friends will be rolling on the floor at the thought of me being described as a socialist and, as a sixty year old mild-mannered accountant who strongly disproves of violence I'm could hardly be described as a thug. Why, I don't even have a tatoo!

I suggest you find other forms of exercise rather than jumping to conclusions
[quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?[/p][/quote]Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.[/p][/quote]That's not a list of shared English values, is it Ena? That's just your wish list, not something we would all recognise as English values[/p][/quote]They are the views of a growing English nationalist group and will be fought at the polls, not on the streets as you socialist thugs would like. More the anarchists and militant students carry on with their lawless attitude the more support we gain as people are sick of them[/p][/quote]You have a rare talent for being wrong, which is well. Otherwise you would have no talent at all. If I may light a candle in the stygian blackness of your mind most of my friends will be rolling on the floor at the thought of me being described as a socialist and, as a sixty year old mild-mannered accountant who strongly disproves of violence I'm could hardly be described as a thug. Why, I don't even have a tatoo! I suggest you find other forms of exercise rather than jumping to conclusions Number Six

11:41am Sat 4 Sep 10

mikebaden says...

It seems ironic to me that organisations like EDL preach about WW2 and what men and women did to protect this Country, yet it's under invasion again blah-dey-blah-dey-bl
ahh.....

Yet you all stand there giving Nazi salutes? That is a shocking level of hypocrisy.


Additionally:

"A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS"

So in other words, children, teenagers, students, and anyone basically under the age of 25 would have no access to benefits or the welfare system? O rly, you rly think that'd work? What a load of **** you people come out with.

My BIGGEST problem with people like you is that you all seem to think you're fighting for this cause, fighting for "England", for our beliefs, our culture. But what you amusingly seem to ignore is the fact that 95% of British people don't share your beliefs, so you're delusional if you think your beliefs represent the beliefs of the wider public. Surely, if BNP policies represented what was best for Britain...they'd be in power, no? I mean, that is what a democracy is, you do know that, right? Popular vote?

Oh, I probably lost you a long time ago.
It seems ironic to me that organisations like EDL preach about WW2 and what men and women did to protect this Country, yet it's under invasion again blah-dey-blah-dey-bl ahh..... Yet you all stand there giving Nazi salutes? That is a shocking level of hypocrisy. Additionally: "A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS" So in other words, children, teenagers, students, and anyone basically under the age of 25 would have no access to benefits or the welfare system? O rly, you rly think that'd work? What a load of **** you people come out with. My BIGGEST problem with people like you is that you all seem to think you're fighting for this cause, fighting for "England", for our beliefs, our culture. But what you amusingly seem to ignore is the fact that 95% of British people don't share your beliefs, so you're delusional if you think your beliefs represent the beliefs of the wider public. Surely, if BNP policies represented what was best for Britain...they'd be in power, no? I mean, that is what a democracy is, you do know that, right? Popular vote? Oh, I probably lost you a long time ago. mikebaden

12:07pm Sat 4 Sep 10

sine-die says...

ENA-ADMIN wrote:
Number Six wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?
Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.
Hey ENA-ADMIN my dear old mother used to say "never talk on an empty head", you may do well to try and work that one out.....also, what exactly does the 'ADMIN' mean? Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that a band of racist lunatics needs an 'admin' department !!!!! Here's another old saying for you, adapted to suit the occassion of course "I'd buy the ENA at my estimation of their value and very quickly sell them at their estimation of their value....and I'd make a hefty profit in the process"........Hehe
he
[quote][p][bold]ENA-ADMIN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid |I come from immigrant stock since my ancestors came here from France in 1066. Perhaps Ms Admin could enlighten me and provide a list of all these English values?[/p][/quote]Looking at the 8 Keys of The English Nationalist Alliance: 1) An English Parliament in line with all other countries in the Union having their own political representation. 2) Withdrawal from the European Union for all political aspects and a closer bond with the Commonwealth Countries, for trade purposes. 3) A single legislative system that encompasses civil and criminal law outside of any religious interference. 4) The deportation of all radical and extremist Migrants that bring conflict and disunity to our shores. Those that seek to remain should sign an oath of allegiance to the English State where they would be afforded the full protection of the state, irrespective of race ethnicity or sexuality. 5) A cap on Immigration and securing our Immigration system of acceptance from fraudulent activities. Anyone seeking to come here must have funding to support themselves and not be a burden on the state. 6) A revamp of the Welfare state system so that only people that have contributed for a minimum of a five year period can use the NHS and other benefits system. 7) Re-instating the death penalty for Treason against the state and supporting foreign activities against the state within our borders. 8) Restricting parliament's powers in acting without the consent of the electrorate on key international issues and also restoring certain powers back to the Crown.[/p][/quote]Hey ENA-ADMIN my dear old mother used to say "never talk on an empty head", you may do well to try and work that one out.....also, what exactly does the 'ADMIN' mean? Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that a band of racist lunatics needs an 'admin' department !!!!! Here's another old saying for you, adapted to suit the occassion of course "I'd buy the ENA at my estimation of their value and very quickly sell them at their estimation of their value....and I'd make a hefty profit in the process"........Hehe he sine-die

2:23pm Sat 4 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

Ena Admin or Idi Amin.
Ena Admin or Idi Amin. TheInsider

2:24pm Sat 4 Sep 10

workingmama says...

Really, most who have these ideas about muslims and people with a different culture base their info on crap they read on the internet.
I am british, born in brighton, from a christian family, I converted to Islam, my daughter is half Morrocan, and my husband who I married last year is Palestinian. No one in our household wants to change the way UK is.
On a recent visit to the UAE to visit my husbands family, the love they showed me, the exceptional hospitality I recieved from them was something I had never recieved from anyone here in UK.
The myth that all muslim women are treated badly is one of the biggest loads of BS out there. Yes some are treated like rubbish just as many non muslim women are treated disgustingly by their husbands etc.
Hijab or the Niqab is by choice, 99% of women CHOOSE to wear the head or face cover, it is not forced on them. Often the woman wants to cover her face whereas the husbands prefers her not to. Again the uneducated think its forced on them. I chose not to wear it and my husband also prefers me not to.
Do not tar the entire muslim population in the UK with the rants of the few who have twisted ideals that lead to them spurting rubbish. If you actually talked to the majority of muslims in UK you would find they really are no different to you and are happy with the UK as it is as we can practise our religion without any need for change. Maybe the reason some want more mosques is because most are filled to overflowing at prayer time.
As for the hysterics of Sharia Law, do you really think the UK government will allow that to be applied to the entire UK population??? Get real. The sharia law if allowed for muslims in the UK would be for such things as inheritance, divorce etc, FOR MUSLIMS not Non Muslims, so it complies with our religion, it wont mean a stoning in the square on a friday afternoon because Mrs Jones decided to romp with the postman.
As a muslim I'm the first one in my office to drag out the christmas tree, our house is blaring with christmas music at that time of year, we join in with all christian festivities. How many of you have ever bothered to experience Eid or Ramadan? Probably almost zero because you cant be bothered to really learn about someone elses culture or beliefs instead preferring to gain your knowledge from bigoted websites on the net who give a totally untrue picture.
Oh Gary Scott, did you go back to school friday??? I guessed you did not work in Housing as your posts were along the lines of something a 14 year old would write.
Really, most who have these ideas about muslims and people with a different culture base their info on crap they read on the internet. I am british, born in brighton, from a christian family, I converted to Islam, my daughter is half Morrocan, and my husband who I married last year is Palestinian. No one in our household wants to change the way UK is. On a recent visit to the UAE to visit my husbands family, the love they showed me, the exceptional hospitality I recieved from them was something I had never recieved from anyone here in UK. The myth that all muslim women are treated badly is one of the biggest loads of BS out there. Yes some are treated like rubbish just as many non muslim women are treated disgustingly by their husbands etc. Hijab or the Niqab is by choice, 99% of women CHOOSE to wear the head or face cover, it is not forced on them. Often the woman wants to cover her face whereas the husbands prefers her not to. Again the uneducated think its forced on them. I chose not to wear it and my husband also prefers me not to. Do not tar the entire muslim population in the UK with the rants of the few who have twisted ideals that lead to them spurting rubbish. If you actually talked to the majority of muslims in UK you would find they really are no different to you and are happy with the UK as it is as we can practise our religion without any need for change. Maybe the reason some want more mosques is because most are filled to overflowing at prayer time. As for the hysterics of Sharia Law, do you really think the UK government will allow that to be applied to the entire UK population??? Get real. The sharia law if allowed for muslims in the UK would be for such things as inheritance, divorce etc, FOR MUSLIMS not Non Muslims, so it complies with our religion, it wont mean a stoning in the square on a friday afternoon because Mrs Jones decided to romp with the postman. As a muslim I'm the first one in my office to drag out the christmas tree, our house is blaring with christmas music at that time of year, we join in with all christian festivities. How many of you have ever bothered to experience Eid or Ramadan? Probably almost zero because you cant be bothered to really learn about someone elses culture or beliefs instead preferring to gain your knowledge from bigoted websites on the net who give a totally untrue picture. Oh Gary Scott, did you go back to school friday??? I guessed you did not work in Housing as your posts were along the lines of something a 14 year old would write. workingmama

3:22pm Sat 4 Sep 10

TheInsider says...

workingmama you are spot on.
The thing is that children born ten or even 15 years ago are now so used to a multi-cultured Britain, they will never accept or understand what the marchers want.
Trying to turn the clock back to what these people want would be like asking people to give up computers and modern technology.
Britain is a very different place to that when I grew up in the 1970s and I am proud of modern Britain, but ashamed of these so-called defenders of England, particularly when some of them posting cannot even spell Britain.
workingmama you are spot on. The thing is that children born ten or even 15 years ago are now so used to a multi-cultured Britain, they will never accept or understand what the marchers want. Trying to turn the clock back to what these people want would be like asking people to give up computers and modern technology. Britain is a very different place to that when I grew up in the 1970s and I am proud of modern Britain, but ashamed of these so-called defenders of England, particularly when some of them posting cannot even spell Britain. TheInsider

10:03pm Sat 4 Sep 10

Andy R says...

chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.
Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......
[quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge![/p][/quote]Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.[/p][/quote]Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing...... Andy R

6:50am Sun 5 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.
Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......
No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge![/p][/quote]Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.[/p][/quote]Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......[/p][/quote]No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said. chris elmes

9:37am Sun 5 Sep 10

mikebaden says...

chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.
Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......
No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said.
Perhaps if you wrote concisely and coherently, and checked your spelling and grammar before posting, others might understand you a bit better.
[quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge![/p][/quote]Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.[/p][/quote]Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......[/p][/quote]No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you wrote concisely and coherently, and checked your spelling and grammar before posting, others might understand you a bit better. mikebaden

11:22am Sun 5 Sep 10

Brighton-Man says...

The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world.
The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics! Brighton-Man

3:35pm Sun 5 Sep 10

Number Six says...

Brighton-Man wrote:
The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews.

Now where have I heard that one before?
[quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics![/p][/quote]Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before? Number Six

5:47am Mon 6 Sep 10

Suxinthecity says...

Number Six wrote:
Brighton-Man wrote:
The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews.

Now where have I heard that one before?
Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... .....
And I'm worried......
You've got some really intelligent peeps on here.
This is Brighton.
The most controversial city in ENGLAND.
The most diverse.
The most tolerant.
And the most celebrated.
And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here.
"Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head.
Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city.
Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto.
Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation.
As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals.
Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together.
Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses.
Do you even know who Shakespeare is?
He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over.
"Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow"
And security word really is....
best-time hopefully.xx
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics![/p][/quote]Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?[/p][/quote]Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx Suxinthecity

6:43am Mon 6 Sep 10

chris elmes says...

mikebaden wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
Andy R wrote:
chris elmes wrote:
workingmama wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.
Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda
Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge!
Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.
Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......
No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said.
Perhaps if you wrote concisely and coherently, and checked your spelling and grammar before posting, others might understand you a bit better.
Mmm I suspect you understand what I've said only too well.
[quote][p][bold]mikebaden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]workingmama[/bold] wrote: If garyscott really does work in the homeless section then he/she is a disgrace to BHCC and I hope his/her real identity is discovered. To admit you work for the council and continue to spurt such racist and homophobic abuse goes against everything BHCC stands for and I am sure is actually a violation of your employment contract, whether you do it in work or not, so I suggest garyscott gets his out and has a read.[/p][/quote]Translation.....The PC common purpose new world order Marxists who have seized control of BHCC are using a reverse form of McCarthyism to enforce their pernicious agenda[/p][/quote]Mary Mears, Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley are Marxists? Duh........ A political compass that gives out a reading like that is so far skewed to the right as to be practically falling off the edge![/p][/quote]Afraid not Andy the above named are just talking heads, and suggesting people should be deprived of work because others don't like their political views could quite reasonably be described as McCatheyesque. In addition before makeing sweeping statments about my political compass I would suggest you read my previous posts throughly and impatialy and then reflect as to what has actually been said by me. I have criticised Weyman Bennett and the UAF because in most if not all of the protests against the EDL ect Bennett and the UAF have been the ones engaged in violent public disorder,hence my comparison of the UAF with the SA the same methods and the same motives. The extreme right are highly unlikely to be anything but a fringe group in the UK ,the extrime left however are far more dangerious as the public do not percive them as the same pack of totalitarian thugs as those on the right.It was Lenin who said that those who hung on to the coat-tails of the left were "useful idiots" . Truth be told I dont think the cretins of either side could tell the differance between The Red Flag(The Internationale)and Raise the Flag(Die Fahne Hoch) now read my other posts and stop jumping to concluseions without proper reflection on the points I am actually trying to make.[/p][/quote]Crikey....what alot of confused blurb to have to try and unravel. But as long as it makes sense to you, I guess that's the main thing......[/p][/quote]No it's quite straightforward and my arguments are concise and factual, all you have to do is read it and then think about what has actually been said.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you wrote concisely and coherently, and checked your spelling and grammar before posting, others might understand you a bit better.[/p][/quote]Mmm I suspect you understand what I've said only too well. chris elmes

9:12am Mon 6 Sep 10

Brighton-Man says...

Suxinthecity wrote:
Number Six wrote:
Brighton-Man wrote:
The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews.

Now where have I heard that one before?
Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... .....
And I'm worried......
You've got some really intelligent peeps on here.
This is Brighton.
The most controversial city in ENGLAND.
The most diverse.
The most tolerant.
And the most celebrated.
And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here.
"Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head.
Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city.
Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto.
Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation.
As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals.
Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together.
Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses.
Do you even know who Shakespeare is?
He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over.
"Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow"
And security word really is....
best-time hopefully.xx
If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world!
[quote][p][bold]Suxinthecity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics![/p][/quote]Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?[/p][/quote]Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx[/p][/quote]If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world! Brighton-Man

7:19pm Mon 6 Sep 10

Number Six says...

Brighton-Man wrote:
Suxinthecity wrote:
Number Six wrote:
Brighton-Man wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?
Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx
If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world!
So now your ugly anti semitism is exposed for all to see.

Funnily enough, |i had always thought that Shakespeare was being rather sympathetic to Shylock, in an age which treated Jews as second class citizens. I bet you wish you had a Tardis.

Next, youll be telling us that Dickens thought that Jews invented pickpockets and singing about it
[quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Suxinthecity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics![/p][/quote]Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?[/p][/quote]Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx[/p][/quote]If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world![/p][/quote]So now your ugly anti semitism is exposed for all to see. Funnily enough, |i had always thought that Shakespeare was being rather sympathetic to Shylock, in an age which treated Jews as second class citizens. I bet you wish you had a Tardis. Next, youll be telling us that Dickens thought that Jews invented pickpockets and singing about it Number Six

8:36am Tue 7 Sep 10

Brighton-Man says...

Number Six wrote:
Brighton-Man wrote:
Suxinthecity wrote:
Number Six wrote:
Brighton-Man wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics!
Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?
Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx
If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world!
So now your ugly anti semitism is exposed for all to see.

Funnily enough, |i had always thought that Shakespeare was being rather sympathetic to Shylock, in an age which treated Jews as second class citizens. I bet you wish you had a Tardis.

Next, youll be telling us that Dickens thought that Jews invented pickpockets and singing about it
Here we go again, Anti semitic excuse is used again to justify the existance of a bunch of murderous thieves. These so called semite or Isrealites have been using the anti semitic excuse for 60 odd years to murder the Palestinian people and steal their land and if anyone defends these oppressed and defenceless people against the barbarous tyranny of the IsraHell, One is labeled Anti-semitic or anti Jewish to suppress the expression in defence of the defenceless Palestinains. I am ANTI ZIONISM, ANTI MURDERERS and ANTI LAND THIEVING and NOT an ANTI SEMITIC!!!!!!!!!!! get it???? Go and join the friends of ISraHell Lobby groups and lobby our politicians to support the murderous and thieving regime of IsraHell!
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Suxinthecity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton-Man[/bold] wrote: The English Nationalist Alliance should go after the traitor memebers of the Friends of Israel lobby groups who sell their own country to defend the Murdeous Israelis and their thieving interests no matter what damage they cause to Britian and the British people's intersts in the world. The Friends of Israel lobby groups are parasites in British politics![/p][/quote]Hmm. Nazi's going after Jews. Now where have I heard that one before?[/p][/quote]Mmmmmmm I have watched this debate unfold... ..... And I'm worried...... You've got some really intelligent peeps on here. This is Brighton. The most controversial city in ENGLAND. The most diverse. The most tolerant. And the most celebrated. And there is some freaky **** being spewed out on here. "Garyscott" you have shot yourself in the foot/ head. Your attitude will not be tolerated. Especially as you work with vulnerable people in this city. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not a dictatorial regurgitation of some ethos they are grasping onto. Claiming that ethos to be for the good of a nation. As an English woman I was sad to be represented by a small narrow minded group of individuals. Sorry , but they couldn't string a chant together. Shakespeare would and is spinning in his grave. And he wrote the original 7 stories/soaps for the masses. Do you even know who Shakespeare is? He's the guy that writes for Jeremy Kyle and is the Big Brother Voice over. "Day 29 and Brighton still hasn't worked its arse out from it's elbow" And security word really is.... best-time hopefully.xx[/p][/quote]If you read Shakespeare then you might have heard of SHYLOCK the jew in Shakespeare's merchant of Venice. Even Shakespeare was warning us about the dodgy jews then! Now in 21st century they have brought down and corrupted the banking system in the world![/p][/quote]So now your ugly anti semitism is exposed for all to see. Funnily enough, |i had always thought that Shakespeare was being rather sympathetic to Shylock, in an age which treated Jews as second class citizens. I bet you wish you had a Tardis. Next, youll be telling us that Dickens thought that Jews invented pickpockets and singing about it[/p][/quote]Here we go again, Anti semitic excuse is used again to justify the existance of a bunch of murderous thieves. These so called semite or Isrealites have been using the anti semitic excuse for 60 odd years to murder the Palestinian people and steal their land and if anyone defends these oppressed and defenceless people against the barbarous tyranny of the IsraHell, One is labeled Anti-semitic or anti Jewish to suppress the expression in defence of the defenceless Palestinains. I am ANTI ZIONISM, ANTI MURDERERS and ANTI LAND THIEVING and NOT an ANTI SEMITIC!!!!!!!!!!! get it???? Go and join the friends of ISraHell Lobby groups and lobby our politicians to support the murderous and thieving regime of IsraHell! Brighton-Man

9:27am Tue 7 Sep 10

Number Six says...

I grow weary of having to wade through your tiresome shouting and the punning that an eight year old would find embarrassing.

You used the phrase "dodgy jews" and accused them of causing the worldwide banking collapse. The old stereotyping again, referring to Shylock. As far as I remember my Shakespeare, Shylock didn't create settlements on the west bank.

True you can oppose the current state of Israel (that's how it's spelt, btw)without being anti-semite but if you use phrases like "dodgy jews" then you can be nothing but an anti-semite
I grow weary of having to wade through your tiresome shouting and the punning that an eight year old would find embarrassing. You used the phrase "dodgy jews" and accused them of causing the worldwide banking collapse. The old stereotyping again, referring to Shylock. As far as I remember my Shakespeare, Shylock didn't create settlements on the west bank. True you can oppose the current state of Israel (that's how it's spelt, btw)without being anti-semite but if you use phrases like "dodgy jews" then you can be nothing but an anti-semite Number Six

10:49am Tue 7 Sep 10

Brighton-Man says...

Number Six wrote:
I grow weary of having to wade through your tiresome shouting and the punning that an eight year old would find embarrassing.

You used the phrase "dodgy jews" and accused them of causing the worldwide banking collapse. The old stereotyping again, referring to Shylock. As far as I remember my Shakespeare, Shylock didn't create settlements on the west bank.

True you can oppose the current state of Israel (that's how it's spelt, btw)without being anti-semite but if you use phrases like "dodgy jews" then you can be nothing but an anti-semite
Firstly, I am not shouting, but just highlighting. Secondly, there is no smoke without the fire! These Murderous Thieving Zionists in IsraHell and all over the western world who support them are the real cause of spread of anti semitism. their Murderous Thieving actions and their Terrorism since the WWII to steal lands that belong to people of Palestine is the real reason behind the rise of so called anti semitism! You and whoever who defends these Thieves and Murderers have the blood of the innocent on their hands! call me anti semitic if you will.
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: I grow weary of having to wade through your tiresome shouting and the punning that an eight year old would find embarrassing. You used the phrase "dodgy jews" and accused them of causing the worldwide banking collapse. The old stereotyping again, referring to Shylock. As far as I remember my Shakespeare, Shylock didn't create settlements on the west bank. True you can oppose the current state of Israel (that's how it's spelt, btw)without being anti-semite but if you use phrases like "dodgy jews" then you can be nothing but an anti-semite[/p][/quote]Firstly, I am not shouting, but just highlighting. Secondly, there is no smoke without the fire! These Murderous Thieving Zionists in IsraHell and all over the western world who support them are the real cause of spread of anti semitism. their Murderous Thieving actions and their Terrorism since the WWII to steal lands that belong to people of Palestine is the real reason behind the rise of so called anti semitism! You and whoever who defends these Thieves and Murderers have the blood of the innocent on their hands! call me anti semitic if you will. Brighton-Man

1:26pm Tue 7 Sep 10

Number Six says...

I could say that anyone who supports the murder of innocent Israelis through misslile attacks has blood on their hands. Since however i prefer reaosn to hysteria and drama queenery, I won't.

By what strange warped logic do you deduce that I have supported Israel's actions in Gaza or the West Bank. Show me where I have ever said such a thing. I have never given an opinion, save to criticise those who attack Jews rather than the state of Israel.

I can understand those who criticise Israel's actions, but you go further. You are a filthy anti-semite and I suggest that you go and join your Nazi friends who are the topic of this threas, not your personal crusade
I could say that anyone who supports the murder of innocent Israelis through misslile attacks has blood on their hands. Since however i prefer reaosn to hysteria and drama queenery, I won't. By what strange warped logic do you deduce that I have supported Israel's actions in Gaza or the West Bank. Show me where I have ever said such a thing. I have never given an opinion, save to criticise those who attack Jews rather than the state of Israel. I can understand those who criticise Israel's actions, but you go further. You are a filthy anti-semite and I suggest that you go and join your Nazi friends who are the topic of this threas, not your personal crusade Number Six

11:36am Mon 27 Sep 10

Ben Martin says...

EDL/WDL numbnut talks about coming to Brighton.
He also implies there were no EDL at the ENA march.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=pBCnRA6E6
L0&feature=player_em
bedded

"Right?"
"Right?"
"Right?"

lol
EDL/WDL numbnut talks about coming to Brighton. He also implies there were no EDL at the ENA march. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=pBCnRA6E6 L0&feature=player_em bedded "Right?" "Right?" "Right?" lol Ben Martin

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