Proposed dates for Brighton Pride 2011 unveiled (From The Argus)
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Proposed dates for Brighton Pride 2011 unveiled
5:10pm Wednesday 8th September 2010 in
Possible dates for next year's Pride celebrations have been revealed.
Now organisers are opening up the debate for the public to decide which of the suggested dates should be chosen for Pride 2011.
They are also asking for suggestions on whether a fee should be charged for entry and if Preston Park is still the most suitable venue.
The traditional early August slot has already been earmarked as a potential clash with Brighton and Hove Albion, which hopes to play its first match at the American Express Community Stadium that weekend.
The dates being considered instead are all Saturdays - on August 13, 20 and 27 August and September 3.
Anyone who wants to give their opinions on the prospective dates or any other aspect of Pride can email office@brightonpride.org or write to Pride in Brighton and Hove, 6 Bartholomews, Brighton, BN1 1HG. Correspondents are asked to include their name and contact details so they can be invited to a feedback meeting.
Organisers are also seeking donations, which can be given via www.justgiving.com/brightonpride/donate.
Comments(39)
Greenlover
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5:21pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Living in the real world
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5:27pm Wed 8 Sep 10
jaygee
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5:33pm Wed 8 Sep 10
John Brighton
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7:09pm Wed 8 Sep 10
I love Sussex
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7:09pm Wed 8 Sep 10
RickH
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7:45pm Wed 8 Sep 10
John Brighton wrote:By the same logic, surely we should also ban all the London-Brighton car/motorbike/cycle runs, the Brighton Marathon, close the pier, all the pubs and anything else that attacts tourists and visitors to...erm...maybe not such a good idea at then really ;)
Why have it at all ? Also why in the school holidays when if used again Preston Park will be out of action again for another week for the people and children who pay community charges to BHCC. Is it not time to end this event as it is not for the residence of Brighton & Hove it is for all those who pay nothing towards it.
hawksmoor
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8:13pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Ya wine me UP, 'sta
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8:28pm Wed 8 Sep 10
jaygee wrote:clearly, living in Arundel, you are going to be terribly disrupted that day. Probably busy going round the shops to see if they have a life in your size.
as far as i am concerned never would be the date .i think they should pay for there own two bob party in the park and hold it somewhere like new cross in sarf london.they would get a very warm welcome there.
Metro Reader
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8:42pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Betty Blue
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8:45pm Wed 8 Sep 10
A few years ago it was a real family outing with mixed members of the community enjoying the Saturday of activities. Since the new "management" committee took over it is complete crap. Thousands of people spending money but where is it going. The parades are not so good. Something is wrong and I hope it is sorted out before next years Pride.
Skippah
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8:47pm Wed 8 Sep 10
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And as for charging, £2 for locals £5 for out of towners. All pre ordered tickets. Simple.
*jo*
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8:49pm Wed 8 Sep 10
John Brighton wrote:perhaps its time to end your residence of Brighton and let the remaining residents (note spelling!) get on and enjoy what the city has to offer?
Why have it at all ? Also why in the school holidays when if used again Preston Park will be out of action again for another week for the people and children who pay community charges to BHCC. Is it not time to end this event as it is not for the residence of Brighton & Hove it is for all those who pay nothing towards it.
Skippah
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9:10pm Wed 8 Sep 10
John Brighton wrote:The thousands who attend have a great day out and if we're talking about it being for those who pay and those who don't what about the local businesses who all pay high rates of tax...they get a great weekends trade , and you want that to stop because some kids can't use a park for a couple of weekends in August?!?!
Why have it at all ? Also why in the school holidays when if used again Preston Park will be out of action again for another week for the people and children who pay community charges to BHCC. Is it not time to end this event as it is not for the residence of Brighton & Hove it is for all those who pay nothing towards it.
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Come on! Don't be silly!
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If we stopped all the events in Brighton that inconvenienced locals we would loose a hell of a lot of money. Brighton is a tourist town. Take the tourists away and we all loose out.
jay316
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9:59pm Wed 8 Sep 10
surreyseagull
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11:01pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Almost every year we have to move and play our opening game away - last year was the only year I can remember we got to play at home on the opening day. The Amex stadium is important to the Albion and to the city - we've fought long enough for it.
Note to "hawksmoor" above - it's the FA who set the dates for the season not the Albion !!
My Point of View
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11:32pm Wed 8 Sep 10
stan bailey
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7:12am Thu 9 Sep 10
Living in the real world wrote:totally agree and how much are Pride paying the council to clear up the filth it created this year. Cannot believe that in a public park people are allowed to get so drunk without intervention from the police
The date should be the first one AFTER they have paid bck this years loan AND pre-paid for next years as charging for pride is going to be a "bummer" of a move to most people who will rightly say Why should we pay to visit a park we have to pay council tax to maintain for the rest of the year
smalltowngirl
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7:27am Thu 9 Sep 10
Angryoldman
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7:51am Thu 9 Sep 10
John60
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9:01am Thu 9 Sep 10
stan bailey wrote:And how much do we pay for the council to clear up the fiilth after the travellers? At least lesbians and gay men pay into the system regardless to the facts that they get a fraction back. How about you lot giving us back the money we've been paying into your school systems for YOUR children! We pay council tax and tax too! It's our right and should be paid by the council in full not little petty hand outs. Oh and what about he twelve million pounds the tax payer has to fork out for the popes visit! Pride brings so much money into this city. You lot are just a bunch of homophobc bigots, perhaps you should become members of The Dove World Outreach church and join in burning the Koran anthing written by Oscar Wilde or anything written a lesbian or a gay man. You're living in the wrong city with your views.
Living in the real world wrote:totally agree and how much are Pride paying the council to clear up the filth it created this year. Cannot believe that in a public park people are allowed to get so drunk without intervention from the police
The date should be the first one AFTER they have paid bck this years loan AND pre-paid for next years as charging for pride is going to be a "bummer" of a move to most people who will rightly say Why should we pay to visit a park we have to pay council tax to maintain for the rest of the year
chipmunk77
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9:02am Thu 9 Sep 10
surreyseagull wrote:DOH!
Surely for one year the march can be changed to accommodate the Albion's new stadium. Almost every year we have to move and play our opening game away - last year was the only year I can remember we got to play at home on the opening day. The Amex stadium is important to the Albion and to the city - we've fought long enough for it. Note to "hawksmoor" above - it's the FA who set the dates for the season not the Albion !!
Dear Surreyseagull, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY The Pride committee is asking for comments on which day to hold it this time due to the Albion Stadium opening!!!!
Pride has nearly always been held the first Saturday of August, so please say thankyou now, and email your prefered date to them!
Oh, and ask for them to charge for entry too, that'll stop the numerous freeloaders who treat it as a family day out, or a free party, and never donate anything, no wonder Pride has problems covering it's costs, most people running it are volunteers.
From personal experience at the last 10 or so events, I would guess that over 90% of people (whether straight or gay, single or families) don't put a single penny in the collection buckets!
security words: debt-tell, would u believe!
Andy R
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9:08am Thu 9 Sep 10
jaygee wrote:Crikey! It's a toss-up whether it's the attitudes of the average homophobe that are most objectionable...or their standard of written English.
as far as i am concerned never would be the date .i think they should pay for there own two bob party in the park and hold it somewhere like new cross in sarf london.they would get a very warm welcome there.
sonnycobbs-phwoar!
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10:07am Thu 9 Sep 10
I love Sussex wrote:Leylands Park perhaps.
Well done with the dates...but please if you insist of using Preston Park for pity's sake ask for it to be £5 entry to cover costs and the clean up... My preference to move it well out Brighton..but that's my opinion.
davyboy
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11:51am Thu 9 Sep 10
hawksmoor wrote:but the football club doesn't choose their fixture list for the new season, it is done by the football league. pride could be any time, and they should charge people to attend. if so many want it, i'm sure they will dip into their pockets to pay for it.
The opening of the new stadium will be a big event for the city and a source of pride for Albion supporters and townsfolk alike after the long struggle to build it. I'm sure it will be a great success. However, having waited for so many years to get it built, one wonders why they would choose the traditional Pride date for such a major event when the football club knows when Pride takes place, and has done for years. Kudos to Pride for moving to accommodate Albion, but surely it should have been the other way around. As for Preston Park users, we all pay for the Park, the loss of two days easy access is not an unreasonable expectation for the lucky few who live near the Park and use if regularly. There is a lot of mean spiritedness expressed in these columns, perhaps it is the same few moaners repeatedly, but even so, let's live and let live.
RickH
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12:09pm Thu 9 Sep 10
surreyseagull wrote:I dont beleive that the Pride committee are asking Albion to move but have acknowledged the clash and asking about alternatives. The same will go for 2012 when the Olympics are in the UK and avoiding clashes with that event. Its funny how many people complain about the the professionality of the Pride committee and comment negatively of 'ownership' of the event outside of the gay 'community' but as soon as they take a step to open ownership up, thats wrong - damned if they do, damned if they don't. Re charging: afraid I dont agree as it killed London Pride ten+ years ago (and have since reverted back to a free event). Whats needed are more bucket-collectors and pressure on the 'free-loaders' to cough up - maybe a hand-stamp in indelible ink for those who have contributed (marking out those who havent - exceptions can be made for unemployed etc).
Surely for one year the march can be changed to accommodate the Albion's new stadium. Almost every year we have to move and play our opening game away - last year was the only year I can remember we got to play at home on the opening day. The Amex stadium is important to the Albion and to the city - we've fought long enough for it. Note to "hawksmoor" above - it's the FA who set the dates for the season not the Albion !!
Wiggsy
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12:40pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Metro Reader wrote:Why?
Why shoiuld Pride move the Date? it is a long standing date - Miove it once and you will have to move it again. Just remember how much money Pride bring to the city in hotel bills etc etc, are more than a 2 bit football team.
Because the Pride date is an easily movable date which the Pride organisers have acknowledged as having a potential clash with BHA home fixture............a
nd if you are using 'long-standing' as an argument then BHA have been playing league football for over a hundred years.
I should have thought the Police would have some view that would carry some sway with the FA if they have concerns about Policing 2 major events in the City on the same day.
sine-die
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1:06pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Why, oh why, are people like 'jaygee', 'stan bailey', 'john brighton' et al so utterly bitter ? - this bitterness will destroy your souls whilst the very thing that makes you all so bitter will invarably triumph in the end - come on guys, chill out, for your own sakes !!!!! (I am genuinely happy to have any of you as my guest at next years Pride and will promise to protect you from any untoward advances !! - I know in my heart that your views of Pride will change, and change is good!!!!!)
One problem with any new date is the effect that this could have on hotels/b&b's as a lot of the tourists who attend Pride each year actually book their accomodation a year in advance, so the first weekend in August next year has already been booked by many - I kid you not, but thats a minor problem !!
As for charging an entrance fee - absolutly, but any fee must not deter those least able to pay i.e unemployed, disabled etc.
As for the venue - I have always thought that Stanmer Park was more appropriate however this raises a problem, how do you get thousands of marching queen's from Brighton to Stanmer Park without half of them getting run over? Maybe 'jaygee' and friends could work on that problem between now and next August........
SteveHove
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1:10pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Wiggsy wrote:Pride is not easily moveable there are many events that it would clash with if they were to moved it not only in Brighton and Hove but in the Gay calendar as well... In Liverpool where i come from once a year there is a clash when the Garnd National is run. Having 2 major football teams in Liverpool who play at home on alternate weekends there is a clash every year.... The simple solution is the football is played early is this not an easy solution for this case as well!!!! Why do people think everything must stop for football???
Metro Reader wrote: Why shoiuld Pride move the Date? it is a long standing date - Miove it once and you will have to move it again. Just remember how much money Pride bring to the city in hotel bills etc etc, are more than a 2 bit football team.Why? Because the Pride date is an easily movable date which the Pride organisers have acknowledged as having a potential clash with BHA home fixture............a nd if you are using 'long-standing' as an argument then BHA have been playing league football for over a hundred years. I should have thought the Police would have some view that would carry some sway with the FA if they have concerns about Policing 2 major events in the City on the same day.
Granny
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1:10pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Stripes
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1:42pm Thu 9 Sep 10
The Albion have played all but one of the opening games of the season for the past 10 YEARS away from the home ground because of Pride without any complaint as the club and its fans recognises that Pride is an important part of the city calendar both culturally and financially.
The state of the art community stadium will be finished in time for the start of next season and the Albion have stated a preference to play the first game at the new ground as a celebration of its existence.
The nice folk at Pride have acknowledged this and are looking in to the possibility of changing the date, all very amicable from both parties so why the fuss?
Old Ladys Gin
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2:02pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Surely one of the reasons for building the stadium where it is was that it would be easier traffic wise.
As said before well done to Pride for volunteering to move from their traditional dates. I'd have honestly thought that the stadium would have taken that into account during their planning.
hawksmoor
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2:56pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Stripes wrote:Well said Stripes. Thank God the people at the Albion and Pride are more grown up and considerate of each others importance to the town than the posters here. I now appreciate the FA difficulties, though worry the FA won't be happy until football is a year round event, but that's just an aside. It really is Albion's due to open their magnificent stadium at the opening of the season after the huge effort to build it. I wish them well, and I'm no football fan. Pride really isn't a moveable feast, but we can move it once to a new fixed date for the good of the city as a whole. Pride should not be a paid event, it is for everyone. It has serious meaning it's not JUST a party. The Pride Committee have to try harder to make it easier to contribute. Collection buckets were sadly just not in evidence the last two years. As for the mess, others have dealt with it, but go to the beach on a Monday morning after a sunny weekend. Appalling. The moaners will be wanting to charge entrance to the beach next. It's not about sexual orientation, it's about manners, courtesy and consideration for others. Sadly lacking in general these days.
Any excuse for the football haters to have a pop eh?
The Albion have played all but one of the opening games of the season for the past 10 YEARS away from the home ground because of Pride without any complaint as the club and its fans recognises that Pride is an important part of the city calendar both culturally and financially.
The state of the art community stadium will be finished in time for the start of next season and the Albion have stated a preference to play the first game at the new ground as a celebration of its existence.
The nice folk at Pride have acknowledged this and are looking in to the possibility of changing the date, all very amicable from both parties so why the fuss?
Greenlover
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3:18pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Stripes
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3:33pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Greenlover wrote:Who cares? The people of Sussex past and present who have kept Brighton & Hove Albion in business by attending matches for the past 109 years.
who cares bout football pride is 4 every1 not just a few make them play away
It's that kind of loyalty and dedication that supporters of Pride could learn a lot from in order to help pull it out of its funding problems.
brightonparty
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4:01pm Thu 9 Sep 10
The ensuing financial meltdown will cripple Pride and ensure the parade can go back to being what it was intended to be, just a parade celebrating peoples right to express their sexuality. Then do a street party in St.James street which will bring money into local businesses instead of feathering the pockets of a few businessmen.
sine-die
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7:34pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Ballroom Blitz
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9:26pm Thu 9 Sep 10
If the answer is no to either of the above - let's not bother.
I love Sussex
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10:13pm Thu 9 Sep 10
sonnycobbs-phwoar! wrote:No, well out the way of any civilised population....prefar
I love Sussex wrote:Leylands Park perhaps.
Well done with the dates...but please if you insist of using Preston Park for pity's sake ask for it to be £5 entry to cover costs and the clean up... My preference to move it well out Brighton..but that's my opinion.
ably in a field miles from any town....then it bothers no one.
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