Hove MP to fight tobacco display ban

Hove MP Mike Weatherley has said he plans to fight a ban of displaying tobacco advertising in shops.

Mr Weatherley said he feared the ban would damage trade for small businesses.

Mr Weatherley is due to meet the Health Secretary Andrew Lansley this week.

He said small shops could have to have costly refits if the ban, voted in under the previous Government, goes ahead.

Mr Weatherley said: "“I’m a passionate anti-smoker but I’m also passionate about supporting small businesses.

“That’s why I’ll be trying to persuade Andrew Lansley that we shouldn’t implement the tobacco display ban.”

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9:20am Mon 25 Oct 10

Andy R says...

Crikey! The first thing of note the man has done turns out to be THIS??

Thanks Mike. Your concern for my child's health is duly noted......
Crikey! The first thing of note the man has done turns out to be THIS?? Thanks Mike. Your concern for my child's health is duly noted...... Andy R

9:38am Mon 25 Oct 10

LB says...

I'm anti-drugs but also realise that there's a lot of people who rely on drug dealing to make a living so perhaps he could include them in his campaign?
I'm anti-drugs but also realise that there's a lot of people who rely on drug dealing to make a living so perhaps he could include them in his campaign? LB

9:42am Mon 25 Oct 10

stanfordsteve says...

Just when I thought he was fairly sensible, Mike Weatherley turns out not to be.

By his reasoning, it seems small businesses could advertise just about anything as long as it keeps them afloat. How about dog fighting events or prostitutes on the premises? No? People's health seems to score low on Mike's scale.
Just when I thought he was fairly sensible, Mike Weatherley turns out not to be. By his reasoning, it seems small businesses could advertise just about anything as long as it keeps them afloat. How about dog fighting events or prostitutes on the premises? No? People's health seems to score low on Mike's scale. stanfordsteve

9:48am Mon 25 Oct 10

Virgil says...

Not quite.
The very first thing he did was to sign an Early Day Motion to oppose the repeal of the Hunting Act
Not quite. The very first thing he did was to sign an Early Day Motion to oppose the repeal of the Hunting Act Virgil

9:54am Mon 25 Oct 10

David523 says...

scum. with possible links to tobacco industry.
scum. with possible links to tobacco industry. David523

10:30am Mon 25 Oct 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

If small corner shops rely on tobacco sales to stay afloat I would be very surprised.
Most of the smokers I know buy their ciggies and tobacco from non-legit smuggled sources.
As David 523 says - links to tobacco industry perhaps?
If small corner shops rely on tobacco sales to stay afloat I would be very surprised. Most of the smokers I know buy their ciggies and tobacco from non-legit smuggled sources. As David 523 says - links to tobacco industry perhaps? Ballroom Blitz

10:50am Mon 25 Oct 10

Ian E Brewers says...

I like me giggies my choice an no one else can persuade me 2 pack it in
I like me giggies my choice an no one else can persuade me 2 pack it in Ian E Brewers

10:52am Mon 25 Oct 10

Ian E Brewers says...

Sorry mates should be ciggies as it happens i think i will have one now
Sorry mates should be ciggies as it happens i think i will have one now Ian E Brewers

11:16am Mon 25 Oct 10

Andre Spooner says...

I would expect nothing less from Mike Weatherley MP, as would anyone who has seen his shocking and bizarre home constructed "smoking jacket"!



I was taking a stroll through Brighton's fashionable North Laine area at the weekend with my Mighty Horse, and what did we see but the elected member for Hove wearing a three piece suit stitched together from old packets of Marlboro Reds and B&H! The waistcoat was a delicate affair made up of old packets of Golden Virginia, and to top it off, Mr Weatherley was wearing a toupee and a false moustache of a mousy brown tint that can only have been made of tobacco! It is all very well to have an opinion on the sale and display of cigarettes and other tobacco products, but if the MP for Hove is to parade around town in some kind of bizarre smoking costume, I think the people of Brighton and Hove have the right to be concerned.



And before anyone says anything, I know that David Lepper used to dress up as a giant cigar for special occasions, but this tobacco parade that Mike Weatherley is embarking on is nothing to do with fancy dress, and all to do with the actions of a madman! I had to pop a pair of blinkers onto my poor Mighty Horse for fear that the bad influence of this MP would cause him to take up smoking. There is nothing sadder than seeing an animal puff away on a fag.
I would expect nothing less from Mike Weatherley MP, as would anyone who has seen his shocking and bizarre home constructed "smoking jacket"! I was taking a stroll through Brighton's fashionable North Laine area at the weekend with my Mighty Horse, and what did we see but the elected member for Hove wearing a three piece suit stitched together from old packets of Marlboro Reds and B&H! The waistcoat was a delicate affair made up of old packets of Golden Virginia, and to top it off, Mr Weatherley was wearing a toupee and a false moustache of a mousy brown tint that can only have been made of tobacco! It is all very well to have an opinion on the sale and display of cigarettes and other tobacco products, but if the MP for Hove is to parade around town in some kind of bizarre smoking costume, I think the people of Brighton and Hove have the right to be concerned. And before anyone says anything, I know that David Lepper used to dress up as a giant cigar for special occasions, but this tobacco parade that Mike Weatherley is embarking on is nothing to do with fancy dress, and all to do with the actions of a madman! I had to pop a pair of blinkers onto my poor Mighty Horse for fear that the bad influence of this MP would cause him to take up smoking. There is nothing sadder than seeing an animal puff away on a fag. Andre Spooner

11:36am Mon 25 Oct 10

tug wilson says...

Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers.
Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers. tug wilson

11:53am Mon 25 Oct 10

Ballroom Blitz says...

tug wilson wrote:
Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers.
Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer.
That's proof enough for me.
How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers'.
We are the majority, you know.
Whichever way you cut it, all smokers are sad addicts who don't have to willpower or backbone to stop.
I can say that, as an ex smoker who stopped 20 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]tug wilson[/bold] wrote: Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers.[/p][/quote]Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer. That's proof enough for me. How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers'. We are the majority, you know. Whichever way you cut it, all smokers are sad addicts who don't have to willpower or backbone to stop. I can say that, as an ex smoker who stopped 20 years ago. Ballroom Blitz

12:13pm Mon 25 Oct 10

Burgess901 says...

Nothing worse than ex-smokers standing on their soap-box, it is a choice and as adults, and we are entitled to that. Exhaust fumes do far greater damage to the lungs, but I don't see anyone trying to ban vehicle advertising.

Government continue to tax the hell out of tobacco, yet at the same time are telling us we should not smoke. If they were seriously concerned about the welfare of smokers they would ban tobacco altogether, but of course they never will. They only bought in the smoking ban to appease the vociferous droning that came from campaigners.
Nothing worse than ex-smokers standing on their soap-box, it is a choice and as adults, and we are entitled to that. Exhaust fumes do far greater damage to the lungs, but I don't see anyone trying to ban vehicle advertising. Government continue to tax the hell out of tobacco, yet at the same time are telling us we should not smoke. If they were seriously concerned about the welfare of smokers they would ban tobacco altogether, but of course they never will. They only bought in the smoking ban to appease the vociferous droning that came from campaigners. Burgess901

12:41pm Mon 25 Oct 10

chas says...

Our present Government keep on about helping small businesses. A display ban would see the closure of many of our small shops, just like a display ban closed thousands of shops in Canada.
Our present Government keep on about helping small businesses. A display ban would see the closure of many of our small shops, just like a display ban closed thousands of shops in Canada. chas

1:13pm Mon 25 Oct 10

tug wilson says...

The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda.
The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda. tug wilson

1:15pm Mon 25 Oct 10

dunderheads says...

You have the MP's you all deserve this gullible fool and Lucas... What a shower. Pro Hunting Pro Tobacco and saviour of 'Fallen Women'
You have the MP's you all deserve this gullible fool and Lucas... What a shower. Pro Hunting Pro Tobacco and saviour of 'Fallen Women' dunderheads

2:49pm Mon 25 Oct 10

HJarrs says...

tug wilson wrote:
The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda.
Well Tug, the closure of pubs and clubs has nothing to do with the need to pay debt racked up by companies like Punch Taverns paying top dollar to dominate the market or greedy multinational brewers or rock bottom booze prices in the supermarkets has it?
And are you really saying that cancer rates are going up because people arn't smoking anymore i.e. cigs are good for you!? Next you will be telling us that after a smoke you don't smell like a turd.
[quote][p][bold]tug wilson[/bold] wrote: The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda.[/p][/quote]Well Tug, the closure of pubs and clubs has nothing to do with the need to pay debt racked up by companies like Punch Taverns paying top dollar to dominate the market or greedy multinational brewers or rock bottom booze prices in the supermarkets has it? And are you really saying that cancer rates are going up because people arn't smoking anymore i.e. cigs are good for you!? Next you will be telling us that after a smoke you don't smell like a turd. HJarrs

7:33pm Mon 25 Oct 10

Belinda-1 says...

"Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer.
That's proof enough for me."

All I hope is that if ever I end up in court I don't want you on the jury. One person died allegedly of passive smoking, reputed not to have smoked and that convinces you that secondary smoke kills up to 79,000 people a year in Europe and 1,000 in Scotland (don't know the figure claimed for England).

Not everyone agrees that he didn't smoke. http://www.thesmokin
gban.org/roy-castle.
php

He was one person (who died well over a decade ago) who was medically untrained and clearly didn't take account of other things he was exposed to when he was diagnosed. Nobody else's name has been mentioned since as a CONFIRMED case of death by passive smoking.

I don't know much about your MP in general but good that he is speaking up about this nonsensical legislation.
"Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer. That's proof enough for me." All I hope is that if ever I end up in court I don't want you on the jury. One person died allegedly of passive smoking, reputed not to have smoked and that convinces you that secondary smoke kills up to 79,000 people a year in Europe and 1,000 in Scotland (don't know the figure claimed for England). Not everyone agrees that he didn't smoke. http://www.thesmokin gban.org/roy-castle. php He was one person (who died well over a decade ago) who was medically untrained and clearly didn't take account of other things he was exposed to when he was diagnosed. Nobody else's name has been mentioned since as a CONFIRMED case of death by passive smoking. I don't know much about your MP in general but good that he is speaking up about this nonsensical legislation. Belinda-1

7:39pm Mon 25 Oct 10

kkj says...

tug wilson wrote:
The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda.
You will, naturally, be providing hard evidence of this 'fact' in due course won't you?
[quote][p][bold]tug wilson[/bold] wrote: The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole,the claims made by the anti-smoking lobby that our Pubs and Clubs would not suffer because of the ban have been proved false,the claims that smoke-free would be great for peoples health have been proven false (latest cancer rates up again ). What is it going to take for some people to see the truth and to see that the campaign against smokers is just non evidence based Propaganda.[/p][/quote]You will, naturally, be providing hard evidence of this 'fact' in due course won't you? kkj

8:12pm Mon 25 Oct 10

Gaz the great says...

Not a smoker but cannot see how hiding them under the counter will stop people from smoking? If you want to stop it, just ban it!
Not a smoker but cannot see how hiding them under the counter will stop people from smoking? If you want to stop it, just ban it! Gaz the great

9:15pm Mon 25 Oct 10

tug wilson says...

kkj

You ask for "hard evidence " yet the whole anti-smoking lobby is based on nothing more than "claims" you are very selective in what you choose to believe it seems. If you want to know about pub and club closures, ask the industry, if you want to know the latest cancer figures, just look up the BBC reports. But it is strange that the anti-smoking lobby have not made a huge announcement about the cancer increase, after all we have been smoke-free for years, you work it out.
kkj You ask for "hard evidence " yet the whole anti-smoking lobby is based on nothing more than "claims" you are very selective in what you choose to believe it seems. If you want to know about pub and club closures, ask the industry, if you want to know the latest cancer figures, just look up the BBC reports. But it is strange that the anti-smoking lobby have not made a huge announcement about the cancer increase, after all we have been smoke-free for years, you work it out. tug wilson

9:31pm Mon 25 Oct 10

kkj says...

Tug wilson..

The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole
you have not, probably because you can not, provide any evidence of this so-called 'fact'.
.
In case you aren't aware, we are currently in recession; I would vbenture to suggest that tghis may play some small part in some pubs closing; additionally, as someone stated above, cheap supermarket booze and booze cruise imports has done a lot more to close pubs and clubs than the smoking ban.
.
BTW I work in the licensed trade, so do have an inkling of what I'm talking about, whereas you appear to be speaking emotionally rather than rationally.
Tug wilson.. [QUOTE] The fact is the only thing that Prohibition has done is to put thousands of people on the dole[UNQUOTE] you have not, probably because you can not, provide any evidence of this so-called 'fact'. . In case you aren't aware, we are currently in recession; I would vbenture to suggest that tghis may play some small part in some pubs closing; additionally, as someone stated above, cheap supermarket booze and booze cruise imports has done a lot more to close pubs and clubs than the smoking ban. . BTW I work in the licensed trade, so do have an inkling of what I'm talking about, whereas you appear to be speaking emotionally rather than rationally. kkj

10:12pm Mon 25 Oct 10

chas says...

There were very few complaints about pubcos until they lost many regular punters due to the smoking ban. Booze has been very cheap in supermarkets long before the ban, and past recessions never saw such massive closures of pubs.
The smoking ban is the main cause of the thousands of pub and club closures
There were very few complaints about pubcos until they lost many regular punters due to the smoking ban. Booze has been very cheap in supermarkets long before the ban, and past recessions never saw such massive closures of pubs. The smoking ban is the main cause of the thousands of pub and club closures chas

11:29am Tue 26 Oct 10

Brightonscouse2 says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
tug wilson wrote:
Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers.
Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer.
That's proof enough for me.
How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers'.
We are the majority, you know.
Whichever way you cut it, all smokers are sad addicts who don't have to willpower or backbone to stop.
I can say that, as an ex smoker who stopped 20 years ago.
"How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers"

Eh, what 'bullying'are you referring to? We now smoke outdoors in all weathers at the request of the 'taxpaying NON smokers'.

Aren't you happy with that or are you asking for more draconian measures to be placed on those that smoke. Also don't forget that us smokers also pay tax and contribute a lot more than it costs the NHS to treat us.
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug wilson[/bold] wrote: Well done i say, i find it hard to believe that some people Still are taken in by the Propaganda concerning smoking, secondhand smoke is Not harmful, Fact, if anyone doubts that, ask our own HSE to provide you with the evidence to Prove SHS is in fact a danger, they cannot,the WHO cannot,ASH cannot,in fact no health group can,they "claim" they say,they believe,or it could or it may,the one thing they have failed to do is to offer Proof, so it should be time for them to prove their claims or Withdraw them and stop this Discrimination and Bullying of taxpaying smokers.[/p][/quote]Roy Castle? Never smoked in his life, but spent years playing trumpet in smoky clubs. Died of lung cancer. That's proof enough for me. How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers'. We are the majority, you know. Whichever way you cut it, all smokers are sad addicts who don't have to willpower or backbone to stop. I can say that, as an ex smoker who stopped 20 years ago.[/p][/quote]"How about smokers 'stop the discrimination and bullying of taxpaying NON smokers" Eh, what 'bullying'are you referring to? We now smoke outdoors in all weathers at the request of the 'taxpaying NON smokers'. Aren't you happy with that or are you asking for more draconian measures to be placed on those that smoke. Also don't forget that us smokers also pay tax and contribute a lot more than it costs the NHS to treat us. Brightonscouse2

9:18pm Tue 26 Oct 10

TheInsider says...

Mr Weatherley's campaign is a smokescreen to divert attention away from the horrendous cuts being made to services in our communities by his party and stopping tobacco being sold openly in corner shops is not a big issue for his voters and has made him look rather parochial and out of touch with the big issues affecting us.
It will not make an impact on the economy as smokers all know where they can buy fags. They don't need an advert or a display. When I smoked I even knew which shops were open at what time. I didn't need a fancy display.
Let's see if Mr Weatherley put his money where his mouth is by telling the chancellor to keep the price of cigarettes down at the next budget.
Mr Weatherley's campaign is a smokescreen to divert attention away from the horrendous cuts being made to services in our communities by his party and stopping tobacco being sold openly in corner shops is not a big issue for his voters and has made him look rather parochial and out of touch with the big issues affecting us. It will not make an impact on the economy as smokers all know where they can buy fags. They don't need an advert or a display. When I smoked I even knew which shops were open at what time. I didn't need a fancy display. Let's see if Mr Weatherley put his money where his mouth is by telling the chancellor to keep the price of cigarettes down at the next budget. TheInsider

4:42pm Fri 29 Oct 10

oneflewoverthe says...

What a waste of an MPs time on a lost cause, wake up matey has'nt anyone told you there is a housing crisis in your area, has'nt anyone told you there is many in Hove already living in poverty about to be dragged further into poverty by HB changes and you choose this as a way of spending your time, hurry up the next election thats all i can say.
What a waste of an MPs time on a lost cause, wake up matey has'nt anyone told you there is a housing crisis in your area, has'nt anyone told you there is many in Hove already living in poverty about to be dragged further into poverty by HB changes and you choose this as a way of spending your time, hurry up the next election thats all i can say. oneflewoverthe

4:58pm Fri 29 Oct 10

Ashles says...

Thank heavens he is fighting this.
I'd hate to think of people walking past newsagents and corner shops, needing cigarettes and being unable to ascertain whether the shop sold them or not.
Thank heavens he is fighting this. I'd hate to think of people walking past newsagents and corner shops, needing cigarettes and being unable to ascertain whether the shop sold them or not. Ashles

1:14pm Sun 31 Oct 10

ghost bus driver says...

Andre Spooner wrote:
I would expect nothing less from Mike Weatherley MP, as would anyone who has seen his shocking and bizarre home constructed "smoking jacket"!



I was taking a stroll through Brighton's fashionable North Laine area at the weekend with my Mighty Horse, and what did we see but the elected member for Hove wearing a three piece suit stitched together from old packets of Marlboro Reds and B&H! The waistcoat was a delicate affair made up of old packets of Golden Virginia, and to top it off, Mr Weatherley was wearing a toupee and a false moustache of a mousy brown tint that can only have been made of tobacco! It is all very well to have an opinion on the sale and display of cigarettes and other tobacco products, but if the MP for Hove is to parade around town in some kind of bizarre smoking costume, I think the people of Brighton and Hove have the right to be concerned.



And before anyone says anything, I know that David Lepper used to dress up as a giant cigar for special occasions, but this tobacco parade that Mike Weatherley is embarking on is nothing to do with fancy dress, and all to do with the actions of a madman! I had to pop a pair of blinkers onto my poor Mighty Horse for fear that the bad influence of this MP would cause him to take up smoking. There is nothing sadder than seeing an animal puff away on a fag.
But what about the hat Andre? Surely that was made from the shipping boxes of Old Horrible - I mean Old Holborn
[quote][p][bold]Andre Spooner[/bold] wrote: I would expect nothing less from Mike Weatherley MP, as would anyone who has seen his shocking and bizarre home constructed "smoking jacket"! I was taking a stroll through Brighton's fashionable North Laine area at the weekend with my Mighty Horse, and what did we see but the elected member for Hove wearing a three piece suit stitched together from old packets of Marlboro Reds and B&H! The waistcoat was a delicate affair made up of old packets of Golden Virginia, and to top it off, Mr Weatherley was wearing a toupee and a false moustache of a mousy brown tint that can only have been made of tobacco! It is all very well to have an opinion on the sale and display of cigarettes and other tobacco products, but if the MP for Hove is to parade around town in some kind of bizarre smoking costume, I think the people of Brighton and Hove have the right to be concerned. And before anyone says anything, I know that David Lepper used to dress up as a giant cigar for special occasions, but this tobacco parade that Mike Weatherley is embarking on is nothing to do with fancy dress, and all to do with the actions of a madman! I had to pop a pair of blinkers onto my poor Mighty Horse for fear that the bad influence of this MP would cause him to take up smoking. There is nothing sadder than seeing an animal puff away on a fag.[/p][/quote]But what about the hat Andre? Surely that was made from the shipping boxes of Old Horrible - I mean Old Holborn ghost bus driver

6:11pm Sun 31 Oct 10

clearbluesky says...

If a child walks in to your average small newsagent he or she will be presented with 1) Lots of attractively packaged sweets all designed to draw their attention, and, 2) Lots of attractively packaged small boxes of cigarettes doing exactly the same thing. I'm not a scientist but basic reasoning says that this is when smoking first starts to take grip. A ban won't make cigarettes unavailable from these shops, they can still sell as many as they like and if the ban is blanket every competing store will be in the same 'boat', they'll just need to be a little less abrasive about it! Only a fool would oppose the proposed ban.
If a child walks in to your average small newsagent he or she will be presented with 1) Lots of attractively packaged sweets all designed to draw their attention, and, 2) Lots of attractively packaged small boxes of cigarettes doing exactly the same thing. I'm not a scientist but basic reasoning says that this is when smoking first starts to take grip. A ban won't make cigarettes unavailable from these shops, they can still sell as many as they like and if the ban is blanket every competing store will be in the same 'boat', they'll just need to be a little less abrasive about it! Only a fool would oppose the proposed ban. clearbluesky

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