Knife maniac kills horse in Alfriston (From The Argus)

If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

A very sick person indeed.

How awful for owners and everyone involved. I hope they find this very sick person soon. It makes me very sad to think about that poor animal. I hope they throw the book at this person, but unfortunately I fear they will just get let off with a slipped wrist!

Sorry - slapped wrist!

Virgo65 wrote:
If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

But it didn't happen to a child....

Do you animal lovers lose all distinctabilty between animals and people?

I just think the person is probablly crazy and needs a psych evaluation, who tries to stab a horse anyway, they have thick skin and can kick your head near off, mutilating a horse of all things is not a sign of a well adjusted person.

VoodooGangbanger wrote:

Virgo65 wrote: If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man. Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!! It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

But it didn't happen to a child.... Do you animal lovers lose all distinctabilty between animals and people? I just think the person is probablly crazy and needs a psych evaluation, who tries to stab a horse anyway, they have thick skin and can kick your head near off, mutilating a horse of all things is not a sign of a well adjusted person.

What's 'distinctabilty'?

A trully cowardly sick and evil person.

Truly

Nasty and really sick !

About 20 years ago there was horse slasher about wasn't there? Did they ever get anyone for that?

Again it puzzles me to think what must go through these peoplse head to even think to do such a thing. With so many nasty injuries someone must have gone home blood stained, I think it's impossible that no one knows who commited this ridiculous unnecessary crime against such a beautiful creature. Searh your laundry bins and find the scum bag. String him up and do the same.

VoodooGangbanger wrote:

Virgo65 wrote:
If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

But it didn't happen to a child....

Do you animal lovers lose all distinctabilty between animals and people?

I just think the person is probablly crazy and needs a psych evaluation, who tries to stab a horse anyway, they have thick skin and can kick your head near off, mutilating a horse of all things is not a sign of a well adjusted person.

Just the sort of attitude that has made our Great British Society what it is today!
'Carry On' the good work

Always working wrote:
Again it puzzles me to think what must go through these peoplse head to even think to do such a thing. With so many nasty injuries someone must have gone home blood stained, I think it's impossible that no one knows who commited this ridiculous unnecessary crime against such a beautiful creature. Searh your laundry bins and find the scum bag. String him up and do the same.

I agree

VoodooGangbanger wrote:

Virgo65 wrote:
If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

But it didn't happen to a child....

Do you animal lovers lose all distinctabilty between animals and people?

I just think the person is probablly crazy and needs a psych evaluation, who tries to stab a horse anyway, they have thick skin and can kick your head near off, mutilating a horse of all things is not a sign of a well adjusted person.

It shows extreme psychopathic tendencies to do this and should be taken very seriously. Many psychopaths start off with extreme cruelty and violence to animals so it is irrelevant if you are an animal lover or not - you should be concerned someone so totally devoid of normal human feelings has not yet been caught.

What a sick society we are living in. To do this to a dumb animal is dreadful, and it makes one worry that it may be a human being who will be the next casualty. By the way, does anyone know how the horses fed with nail spiked apples are progressing?

Granny wrote:
What a sick society we are living in. To do this to a dumb animal is dreadful, and it makes one worry that it may be a human being who will be the next casualty. By the way, does anyone know how the horses fed with nail spiked apples are progressing?

Last I heard they were all OK, Thank Goodness

ade1200 wrote:

VoodooGangbanger wrote:

Virgo65 wrote:
If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

But it didn't happen to a child....

Do you animal lovers lose all distinctabilty between animals and people?

I just think the person is probablly crazy and needs a psych evaluation, who tries to stab a horse anyway, they have thick skin and can kick your head near off, mutilating a horse of all things is not a sign of a well adjusted person.

It shows extreme psychopathic tendencies to do this and should be taken very seriously. Many psychopaths start off with extreme cruelty and violence to animals so it is irrelevant if you are an animal lover or not - you should be concerned someone so totally devoid of normal human feelings has not yet been caught.

I agree

Cannot wait for the evil, callous **** to be caught.

Virgo65 wrote:
If this happend to a child the police would be out in full force - so should it be the same for these kind, gentle, trusting animals (or any animal for that matter) whose main purpose throughout history has been to stand by and serve man.
Animals & Children a like put their trust in adults! Yet this trust is abused!!
It's disgusting to think this sort of person is part of our so-called civilized society

A sick individual without doubt, but killing a horse is not the same as murdering a child, not even close.

The "Horse Ripper" panic was just that, a panic. I have always taken reports of such attacks with a pinch of salt & they have never been proved to be true (36 years I've been with horse, professionally & amateur, Shires to Shetlands) & horses do manage to inflict all manner of injuries on themselves. You wouldn't believe it, but it's true. A horse will scratch until it's raw & bleeding. The head of a nail or screw can rip the side of a horse's neck off & looks like a slashing when it's not.
This, however, is patently an attack. I too hope to the gods that whoever did this is caught, because animal cruelty can lead to child cruelty.
The perpetrator must've been covered in blood, someone *must* know something abut this. All I can add is that if anyone out there does know something about this, tell the police as soon as you can. People who can do this to a horse can do it to a dog, a cat, a child or a anyone.
My thoughts are with everyone who cared for Rascal & specially the poor love who found him. That's got to be traumatising.

Why is it different, Baldseagull, because children can speak and animals cant? The essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. People who cant understand this are very sad! My heart goes out to the owners of this beautiful creature and I hope that the 'humans' that killed him are brought to justice swiftly. rip Rascal.

longman wrote:
Why is it different, Baldseagull, because children can speak and animals cant? The essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. People who cant understand this are very sad! My heart goes out to the owners of this beautiful creature and I hope that the 'humans' that killed him are brought to justice swiftly. rip Rascal.

Well if there is no difference in how we should treat animals and children leave your kids out in a field all night, then jump on their backs and ride them round the countryside for fun.
Shoot your kids dead if they break their legs, but don't waste the carcasse, use the meat for dog food, boil the bones down to make glue and gelatin.
The essence of humanity is our ability to dominate other animals and our environment and change it to suit our purposes.
I am an animal lover but I value my own species higher than any other

I don't think anyone should turn this into a debate on animal rights & our treatment of children vs. animals.
People who treat animals badly display a contempt for those who are weaker or more vulnerable than themselves.
Yes, our society does condone & allow bad treatment of animals to some extent & it is not illegal for a parent to assault a child (the smallest slap is still assault. My dad isn't allowed to hit me now, when I'm big enough to belt him back, but he was allowed to 30 years ago when I was so much smaller & vulnerable & unable to defend myself. And don't give me the old "can't reason with children", I can't reason with him now).
As a society we need to come down hard on people who treat animals badly so they don't think they can get away with doing it to children or the elderly. But not everyone sees things this way.
Either way, the person who did this is a nutter & needs locking up asap.

This must be one sick ****** and he/she needs to be dealt with quickly...

Baldseagull wrote:

longman wrote:
Why is it different, Baldseagull, because children can speak and animals cant? The essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. People who cant understand this are very sad! My heart goes out to the owners of this beautiful creature and I hope that the 'humans' that killed him are brought to justice swiftly. rip Rascal.

Well if there is no difference in how we should treat animals and children leave your kids out in a field all night, then jump on their backs and ride them round the countryside for fun.
Shoot your kids dead if they break their legs, but don't waste the carcasse, use the meat for dog food, boil the bones down to make glue and gelatin.
The essence of humanity is our ability to dominate other animals and our environment and change it to suit our purposes.
I am an animal lover but I value my own species higher than any other

Oh dear (or words to that effect) that's just the sort of attitude that is destroying our planet. 'Dominate other animals & our environment and change it to suit our purposes'

You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well Done good choice!

Couldn't agree more!

"You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well done good choice!"

I second that. It is only humans that mete out brutal acts on other living things like this. I'm not saying that nature can't be brutal - when it comes to survival of the species and all that. But no animal brutally kills another for no reason other than to cause pain and suffering, as has been the case here. "Psychopath" or not, I'd have no qualms whatsoever about the perpetrator being "put down" and chucked in a tip with the rest of the rubbish. A blight to the civilised world.

KarenT wrote:
"You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well done good choice!"

I second that. It is only humans that mete out brutal acts on other living things like this. I'm not saying that nature can't be brutal - when it comes to survival of the species and all that. But no animal brutally kills another for no reason other than to cause pain and suffering, as has been the case here. "Psychopath" or not, I'd have no qualms whatsoever about the perpetrator being "put down" and chucked in a tip with the rest of the rubbish. A blight to the civilised world.

Lies Dammned lies, Animals are well capable of Revenge, War, Mutilation, the Killing of your enemies or rivals offspring, animals often kill for no more reasons then humans do, you can see this in grouped mammals, many species of monkey and Ape, and even things like meerkats.

and for instance why do dangerous dogs maul children?, or do you deny that as being brutal, start making excuses for the dog?

VoodooGangbanger wrote:

KarenT wrote:
"You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well done good choice!"

I second that. It is only humans that mete out brutal acts on other living things like this. I'm not saying that nature can't be brutal - when it comes to survival of the species and all that. But no animal brutally kills another for no reason other than to cause pain and suffering, as has been the case here. "Psychopath" or not, I'd have no qualms whatsoever about the perpetrator being "put down" and chucked in a tip with the rest of the rubbish. A blight to the civilised world.

Lies Dammned lies, Animals are well capable of Revenge, War, Mutilation, the Killing of your enemies or rivals offspring, animals often kill for no more reasons then humans do, you can see this in grouped mammals, many species of monkey and Ape, and even things like meerkats.

and for instance why do dangerous dogs maul children?, or do you deny that as being brutal, start making excuses for the dog?

When the hell has an animal ever meted out violence for "revenge"? Animals have no concept of "revenge". Just survival. Animals don't "go to war" - they battle with predators and other animals who pose a threat to their livelihood, their food supplies, their territories. In other words, survival of the species. Killing of rival offspring, again, is about preserving the breeding lines, preserving the species, the gene pools. It's nature. Animals never kill for fun, never kill for the sheer purposeless and unnecessary brutality of killing.

Why do dangerous dogs maul children? Because they are fighting breeds, who have been bred and trained over many years to fight and be aggressive, by HUMANS. And unfortunately that nature is still encouraged amongst certain people, again, HUMANS. Or rather, drongos who think that a way of displaying their masculinity is through prancing around with certain breeds of dogs that are encouraged to behave aggressively.

You clearly have never watched a programme on natural history or the history of SELECTIVE BREEDING of dogs by HUMAN to perform certain roles, whether its guarding, hunting, or indeed fighting.

Go away and come back with some sensible and relevant comments once you've bothered to actually inform yourself.

Virgo65 wrote:

Baldseagull wrote:

longman wrote:
Why is it different, Baldseagull, because children can speak and animals cant? The essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. People who cant understand this are very sad! My heart goes out to the owners of this beautiful creature and I hope that the 'humans' that killed him are brought to justice swiftly. rip Rascal.

Well if there is no difference in how we should treat animals and children leave your kids out in a field all night, then jump on their backs and ride them round the countryside for fun.
Shoot your kids dead if they break their legs, but don't waste the carcasse, use the meat for dog food, boil the bones down to make glue and gelatin.
The essence of humanity is our ability to dominate other animals and our environment and change it to suit our purposes.
I am an animal lover but I value my own species higher than any other

Oh dear (or words to that effect) that's just the sort of attitude that is destroying our planet. 'Dominate other animals & our environment and change it to suit our purposes'

You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well Done good choice!

Exactly, my point if the essence of humanity was not to dominate our environment then the environment as it is, or was, would not be at risk. I was countering the claim that the essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. I am not saying that I think this act is OK, just not comparable to a child murder.
I take it you live in a house, made of brick, dug from a clay pit, burnt in a furnace, transported by road and laid with sand and cement. You presumably eat food grown on farmland that once was forest, drink purified water from a reservoir, heat your home with gas that was once beneath the sea, carried around your home in copper pipes mined from the earth.
You dominate your environment as much as anybody.

Yes, I value a human life more than any animals.

I would like to pose some questions. If I were being mauled by a bear and you were stood nearby with a rifle to hand, what would you do?
What would you hope for me to do if the roles were reversed?
If you do not value a human life more than an animal life, would you agree with the actions of the lady from Lancing who has just been sent down for 6 years, for terrorising the employees of businesses in the supply chain of Huntingdon Life Sciences?
I hope this sick individual is caught and given the phsychiactric care they patently need.
Where as many of the animals on here would lynch him.

I'm sorry but there is no way that killing a bear because it's attacking someone can be compared to slashing an animal to death because you feel like it!!

Someone, somewhere knows who did this. Give them up!!!

what an awful, awful sorry. this has made me sick to my stomach. My thoughts are with the owners and this poor pony.
Whatever the comments today one thing I will say is when i read stories like this where a gorgeous horse is killed by a fellow human being it certainly doesnt make me feel proud and want to argue a case of humans vs animals.
wasnt there an article in the news at the beginning of the year about horses ?

Sleep well little Rascal xxxxx

Baldseagull wrote:

Virgo65 wrote:

Baldseagull wrote:

longman wrote:
Why is it different, Baldseagull, because children can speak and animals cant? The essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. People who cant understand this are very sad! My heart goes out to the owners of this beautiful creature and I hope that the 'humans' that killed him are brought to justice swiftly. rip Rascal.

Well if there is no difference in how we should treat animals and children leave your kids out in a field all night, then jump on their backs and ride them round the countryside for fun.
Shoot your kids dead if they break their legs, but don't waste the carcasse, use the meat for dog food, boil the bones down to make glue and gelatin.
The essence of humanity is our ability to dominate other animals and our environment and change it to suit our purposes.
I am an animal lover but I value my own species higher than any other

Oh dear (or words to that effect) that's just the sort of attitude that is destroying our planet. 'Dominate other animals & our environment and change it to suit our purposes'

You value your own species higher than any other when it can perform an act like that. Well Done good choice!

Exactly, my point if the essence of humanity was not to dominate our environment then the environment as it is, or was, would not be at risk. I was countering the claim that the essence of humanity is love of our fellow creatures. I am not saying that I think this act is OK, just not comparable to a child murder.
I take it you live in a house, made of brick, dug from a clay pit, burnt in a furnace, transported by road and laid with sand and cement. You presumably eat food grown on farmland that once was forest, drink purified water from a reservoir, heat your home with gas that was once beneath the sea, carried around your home in copper pipes mined from the earth.
You dominate your environment as much as anybody.

Yes, I value a human life more than any animals.

I would like to pose some questions. If I were being mauled by a bear and you were stood nearby with a rifle to hand, what would you do?
What would you hope for me to do if the roles were reversed?
If you do not value a human life more than an animal life, would you agree with the actions of the lady from Lancing who has just been sent down for 6 years, for terrorising the employees of businesses in the supply chain of Huntingdon Life Sciences?
I hope this sick individual is caught and given the phsychiactric care they patently need.
Where as many of the animals on here would lynch him.

You talk about the human purpose of "domination" over all other species. What the hell does this sick horrible crime have to do with exercising domination? Did the horse come at the man with a knife, attempt to slash the man's throat, and the man in turn chose to defend himself? What utter tripe. This behaviour is INHUMAN, and as been said it makes you feel ashamed to be a member of the human race. And whilst it might make "biological sense" to put the life of a human before that of a animal, I think many people who share their lives with a beloved pet would, given the choice, allow an unknown human to die before their pet. Fortunately we're never faced with such ridiculous choices. The thing is, the very thing that makes us "human", is affection for all living things that we become close to or attached to. And we lose objectivity! "Survival of the species" isn't engendered in us in the same way that it is in animals. We behave less instinctively, because we have the ability to feel SENTIMENT, unlike animals. My dog's life is more important to me than the life of some anonymous person, and I know I'm not alone with that feeling, nor am I ashamed to say so. Just being honest. That sentimental choice is what sets us apart from animals, but it doesn't make us wrong. It's just the way some people are. This isn't a story about someone placing human life before animal life, but actually a story about someone who saw an animal's life as utterly worthless.

"You talk about the human purpose of "domination" over all other species. What the hell does this sick horrible crime have to do with exercising domination? "

Nothing at all, please re-read, I was countering the claim that " the essence of Humanity is our love of fellow creatures".

The first poster suggested that the police should launch a manhunt in the same manner as they would for a child murder.
I find that ridiculous, but it appears I am in the minority.
Most of you seem to value animals above humans.
I am sure you are all nice people but I would not want any of you to babysit for me.

This has got way off topic and I apologise for my part in that.
We all hope that the culprit is caught.
I cannot understand the mentality of someone who could do this to a Horse, but I am also struggling to understand the mentality of people who would rather see a man die than their pet.

Gaz the great wrote:
Cannot wait for the evil, callous **** to be caught.

And can't wait for the person who did this and should be locked up and throw away the key!!!!!!!!!!!!!!