Student protests day 2: university building still occupied and schoolchildren arrested (From The Argus)

Tom V wrote:
And were any of these teens intending to go to uni or just out to cause trouble? These mindless actions harm an important message.

I certainly won't ever vote Lib-Dem after they've failed to honour yet another election pledge.

true-brightonian wrote:
Interesting comment by the police: "Unfortunately a group of protesters who were unconnected with the original march seemed to have hijacked the protest". I was there on the march, and can confirm that it was not "hijacked" in any way. There were just lots of nice angry kids who were certainly not yobs or hooligans. There was a spontaneous move to occupy the University Building, involving over 1,000 protesters. Hardly a tiny minority. The article also fails to mention that some of these young people were assaulted by the police, who used batons, kicked people and set their dogs on children. We will see how many of these cases get dropped, as evidence is building against the police, who in many cases used extreme violence against a largely peaceful group of kids. Now many of them have been radicalised, and have lost respect for the police due to their experiences yesterday. Most were middle-class kids doing A-levels or GCSEs, and the mainstream media is playing on people's fears of anyone under the age of 25. These are good kids who are scared for the future that our generation has left for them.

Fight Back wrote:

true-brightonian wrote:
Interesting comment by the police: "Unfortunately a group of protesters who were unconnected with the original march seemed to have hijacked the protest". I was there on the march, and can confirm that it was not "hijacked" in any way. There were just lots of nice angry kids who were certainly not yobs or hooligans. There was a spontaneous move to occupy the University Building, involving over 1,000 protesters. Hardly a tiny minority. The article also fails to mention that some of these young people were assaulted by the police, who used batons, kicked people and set their dogs on children. We will see how many of these cases get dropped, as evidence is building against the police, who in many cases used extreme violence against a largely peaceful group of kids. Now many of them have been radicalised, and have lost respect for the police due to their experiences yesterday. Most were middle-class kids doing A-levels or GCSEs, and the mainstream media is playing on people's fears of anyone under the age of 25. These are good kids who are scared for the future that our generation has left for them.

When you try and occupy buildings and ransack shops then you can hardly complain when the police go in hard.

Simple answer, demonstrate peacefully and the police won't use those sort of tactics. Strangely many people see football supporters as thugs yet all the Albion demos for Falmer went peacefully without a need for a large police presence.

The demonstrators got what they deserved - the odd bruise and sore head.

sparky_2004 wrote:
Poor little plods getting assaulted by school kids?...more likely it was that the kids were objecting to the moronic and violent behaviour by what is essentially a paramilitary force let loose on our streets!...Still, keep it up you 'boys and girls in blue' - eventually you'll turn the whole population against you!...(SW - pick-hate...lol!)

chroma wrote:

sparky_2004 wrote:
Poor little plods getting assaulted by school kids?...more likely it was that the kids were objecting to the moronic and violent behaviour by what is essentially a paramilitary force let loose on our streets!...Still, keep it up you 'boys and girls in blue' - eventually you'll turn the whole population against you!...(SW - pick-hate...lol!)

Often wonder what sort of naive idiot makes the above comment/observation. At the moment, the UK is being battered senseless by 'school children', in London alone, there have been over 16 murders committed by school children and over 160 knife-wielding school children gangs are roaming the streets. Here in Sussex, we're not immune as groups of feral teenagers roams streets and neighbourhoods at night threating and destroying as they go. My neighbour recently challenged a group of 11 year olds to leave his garden and the group replied by smashing the windows at the rear of his property.
The idea that school children are somehow blessed with good behaviour and impeccable manners is the stuff of Seasame Street and Blue Peter - on the streets, things are very different.
Just take a look at the press pictures in many of today's newspapers that show children criminally damaging a police van while wearing riot police helmets.
If you're in any doubt as to the behaviour of school children, and the grown-up counterparts - students, just pop along to the Centre of Brighton on a Saturday night and witness the carnage.
You claim the whole population is turning against the police, not true. In fact, the sway of public opinion is very much in favour of the police in this country taking a more robust position than at present.
If anything, the opinion polls are firmly against the students and their ever increasing violent and destructive protests.

Granny wrote:
I have noticed from the pictures in the national newspapers, that the among the protesters doing the damage and turning a peaceful protest into a riot, the majority of them were wearing balaclavas or face masks to hide their identity. I think this goes to prove that they do not have the courage of their convictions and are cowards, as were the IRA. Protest by all means, but keeping it peaceful will do more good than harm.

Tom V wrote:
And were any of these teens intending to go to uni or just out to cause trouble? These mindless actions harm an important message.

I certainly won't ever vote Lib-Dem after they've failed to honour yet another election pledge.

thelaird wrote:
Well Sparky, one can only assume you are a middle class wendy dreaming of the day when communism resolves all of our problems.

Grow up and accept change has to happen and it is going to cost us all in one form or another.

As for the sound of jackboots, well it is your kind that makes the use of them necessary......

sparky_2004 wrote:

thelaird wrote:
Well Sparky, one can only assume you are a middle class wendy dreaming of the day when communism resolves all of our problems.

Grow up and accept change has to happen and it is going to cost us all in one form or another.

As for the sound of jackboots, well it is your kind that makes the use of them necessary......

Lol..Assumptions again eh?...one minute a benefit claimant, now a middle class communist!...Do you realise how stupid you sound, and that every word you type exposes your ignorance - However I doubt you even understand the shortcomings of your own thought processes!...mind you, at least you admit you'd like to see those jackboots return!...so what does that make you?

Fight Back wrote:

sparky_2004 wrote:

thelaird wrote:
Well Sparky, one can only assume you are a middle class wendy dreaming of the day when communism resolves all of our problems.

Grow up and accept change has to happen and it is going to cost us all in one form or another.

As for the sound of jackboots, well it is your kind that makes the use of them necessary......

Lol..Assumptions again eh?...one minute a benefit claimant, now a middle class communist!...Do you realise how stupid you sound, and that every word you type exposes your ignorance - However I doubt you even understand the shortcomings of your own thought processes!...mind you, at least you admit you'd like to see those jackboots return!...so what does that make you?

Given your sweeping generalisations of the police and your very distasteful references to jackboots I would suggest you're the ignorant one.

Midnightrunner wrote:
To all the student who don’t read newspapers or watch the TV news. HELLO,,,,HELLO,,, WAKE UP,,,,, THE COUNTRY AND MOST OF THE WORLD IS BROKE We are all having to make savings and adjust to the current financial situation. What makes you think you’re all so special? If I what to attend further education to gain skills or knowledge to help me in the future I have to PAY

Midnightrunner wrote:
To all the student who don’t read newspapers or watch the TV news.
HELLO,,,,HELLO,,, WAKE UP,,,,,
THE COUNTRY AND MOST OF THE WORLD IS BROKE
We are all having to make savings and adjust to the current financial situation.
What makes you think you’re all so special?
If I what to attend further education to gain skills or knowledge to help me in the future I have to PAY

BenWy wrote:
"A 15-year old Worthing girl was arrested in Madeira Drive for assault on police, obstructing police, and causing harassment and alarm and was bailed to December 17."

Assault on police...? A 15 year old girl is being arrested for assault on police?

I am insulted that a largely peaceful protest has lead to the arrest of multiple kids, and yet just because the police are the law, they get away with pushing and punching kids of the same age.

All this goes to show is that the government need to re-think the cuts they are making, yes cuts need to be made, but to go and announce an £8bn investment into TRAINS... the logic is lacking, this is coming from an 18year old politics student i know, but the education of children IS the future, and whilst i agree that EMA is largely misused, there are still thousands of kids who will be incapable of going to college purely because of lack of transport funds, especially with the coming rise in train fairs, unless of course thousands of uneducated and unemployed teenagers is what this government is aiming for in order to sort out our economy.

MatildaWhite wrote:
Sorry, but, I was at this protest, I was one of the so-called kids doing it 'just to miss lessons.' This is all rubbish, the teens who did it did it because we can't afford the uni fees, we did it because it's a cause we believe in, not just so we could bunk. As for the teens 'starting trouble' and being 'un-necessarily violent', what kind of police force gets batons and dogs out to deal with kids? Roughly 60 people were boxed in by the pier and couldn't get away because the police were stopping them, numerous INNOCENT people were thrown to the floor or hit with batons. People witnessed a police man walk into the crowd and knock and woman to the floor and hit her with his baton, what kind of attitude is this towards kids who are attempting to fight for their education? Education is a right, not a privilege. Also this nonsense about us not knowing what we were protesting for? Of course we did, do you really think people can afford those fees? Do you think we can get to college without money to get us there? Don't act like you know all about kids, you think we're all just in it for a laugh and to cause trouble. In reality, we actually care about our education, yes things may have got out of hand, but that was a select few, no need to generalise all the kids there because of that.

Fight Back wrote:

MatildaWhite wrote:
Sorry, but, I was at this protest, I was one of the so-called kids doing it 'just to miss lessons.' This is all rubbish, the teens who did it did it because we can't afford the uni fees, we did it because it's a cause we believe in, not just so we could bunk. As for the teens 'starting trouble' and being 'un-necessarily violent', what kind of police force gets batons and dogs out to deal with kids? Roughly 60 people were boxed in by the pier and couldn't get away because the police were stopping them, numerous INNOCENT people were thrown to the floor or hit with batons. People witnessed a police man walk into the crowd and knock and woman to the floor and hit her with his baton, what kind of attitude is this towards kids who are attempting to fight for their education? Education is a right, not a privilege. Also this nonsense about us not knowing what we were protesting for? Of course we did, do you really think people can afford those fees? Do you think we can get to college without money to get us there? Don't act like you know all about kids, you think we're all just in it for a laugh and to cause trouble. In reality, we actually care about our education, yes things may have got out of hand, but that was a select few, no need to generalise all the kids there because of that.

Welcome to the adult world. If you want to protest and attack shops, council buildings etc then you should expect the police to act against that aggression. Try doing it in mainland Europe and you'll get a bit more than a whack from a baton or a punch.

TheInsider wrote:
sparky, protest is part of the fabric of British history. However, violence never achieves a goal.
Many of us are protesting against violence in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East and now violence is being used at home in a cause.
It just doesn't work. The protesters have to get back to a peaceful mass rather than the shambles it currently is.
It's losing support so get it back on track.

Tracey wrote:
A number of school children nicked fruit from my stall (next to the vodafone store) to throw at police, they were also throwing bottled water and where carrying large sticks and were threatening innocent people including children. They had covered their faces with scarves and masks.
When they attacked the pound shop a pregnant lady was screaming terribly because she couldn't escape as they smashed the place up and stole what they wanted. They largely stole bottles to throw at police and buses.

MatildaWhite wrote:

TheInsider wrote:
sparky, protest is part of the fabric of British history. However, violence never achieves a goal.
Many of us are protesting against violence in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East and now violence is being used at home in a cause.
It just doesn't work. The protesters have to get back to a peaceful mass rather than the shambles it currently is.
It's losing support so get it back on track.

Violence never achieved a goal? Guess you never heard of the London poll tax riot? Also, if violence never achieved a goal, why are the police using violence? I could understand if it was in self defence or it was necessary but considering they hurt innocent people for no reason this clearly isn't the case.

steveP2009 wrote:
When people started turning 25 years ago they were thinking of buying a house. Settling down properly and building up their worth for the sake of there kids. Call me old fashioned (but I am *only* 31) you simply cannot do this now with the huge burden of ever increasing debts when you are younger. It will be a long time till I can buy a cheap small flat and will have little to give over when i'm dead. I am still paying off student debts!

Brighton stop the cuts wrote:
Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent.
Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation.
We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today.
Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan

ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Fight Back wrote:

Brighton stop the cuts wrote:
Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent.
Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation.
We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today.
Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan


ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Once you post on Twitter you're making a public statement so you can hardly be surprised that a paper uses it !

Brighton stop the cuts wrote:
Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent.
Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation.
We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today.
Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan

ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Brighton stop the cuts wrote:
Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent.
Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation.
We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today.
Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan

ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Brighton stop the cuts wrote:
Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent. Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation. We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today. Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Stripes wrote:

Brighton stop the cuts wrote: Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent. Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation. We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today. Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Speaking from the majority judging by the comments on this article, why don't you stick to twitter if that's the tool you wish to use to drone on about how hard done by you are and to justify your occupation of a lecture hall and not bother with the argus at all? What on earth are you going to be like when you are exposed to the real world? Millions of people are under the real threat of being made redundant with no prospect of redeployment, increase in taxes, mortgages hard to come by, children's tax credit being cut, the retirement age being increased and the pension pot shrinking? The world is bust, we all live in a difficult financial climate, once you leave the soft warm bosom of education maybe you will have all grown up a bit and realise this.

Andy R wrote:

Stripes wrote:

Brighton stop the cuts wrote: Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent. Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation. We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today. Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Speaking from the majority judging by the comments on this article, why don't you stick to twitter if that's the tool you wish to use to drone on about how hard done by you are and to justify your occupation of a lecture hall and not bother with the argus at all? What on earth are you going to be like when you are exposed to the real world? Millions of people are under the real threat of being made redundant with no prospect of redeployment, increase in taxes, mortgages hard to come by, children's tax credit being cut, the retirement age being increased and the pension pot shrinking? The world is bust, we all live in a difficult financial climate, once you leave the soft warm bosom of education maybe you will have all grown up a bit and realise this.

Crikey! They really got you didn't they? "The world is bust"? Got any more pearls of wisdom like that? If I were you, I'd be more worried that a bunch of 14-year-olds seem to have a far better handle on what's really going on in the world than you do.

Stripes wrote:

Andy R wrote:

Stripes wrote:

Brighton stop the cuts wrote: Speaking from the occupation at Pavillion Parade, we disagree with the Argus using an individual's twitter posts without consent. Seminars were disrupted yesterday (25th Nov), due to the management making the decision to cancel classes without discussions with the occupation. We are fighting for education, and do not want to disrupt it outside of our occupied lecture theatre, and have therefore worked with the management for classes here to go on as usual, which has been happening today. Thank you, and feel free to quote from our blog www.brightonresistan ce.wordpress.com or search brighton no cuts in twitter.

Speaking from the majority judging by the comments on this article, why don't you stick to twitter if that's the tool you wish to use to drone on about how hard done by you are and to justify your occupation of a lecture hall and not bother with the argus at all? What on earth are you going to be like when you are exposed to the real world? Millions of people are under the real threat of being made redundant with no prospect of redeployment, increase in taxes, mortgages hard to come by, children's tax credit being cut, the retirement age being increased and the pension pot shrinking? The world is bust, we all live in a difficult financial climate, once you leave the soft warm bosom of education maybe you will have all grown up a bit and realise this.

Crikey! They really got you didn't they? "The world is bust"? Got any more pearls of wisdom like that? If I were you, I'd be more worried that a bunch of 14-year-olds seem to have a far better handle on what's really going on in the world than you do.

Try watching the news AndyR, its on after the cartoons if you're allowed up that late. Also there are these things called newspapers, usually found close to the comics. Remember it's Friday so you might need to take your PE kit home for a wash.

LtPaperclip wrote:
THE ARMY SHOULD DEAL WITH THIS RABBLE same as they did in china at tiananmen square

Andy R wrote:

LtPaperclip wrote: THE ARMY SHOULD DEAL WITH THIS RABBLE same as they did in china at tiananmen square

You had already shown yourself up as a bit of a crank, but now you're advocating the mass murder of schoolchildren. Hopefully The Argus will pass your IP address on to the police so that we can get you separated from decent society.

LtPaperclip wrote:

Andy R wrote:

LtPaperclip wrote: THE ARMY SHOULD DEAL WITH THIS RABBLE same as they did in china at tiananmen square

You had already shown yourself up as a bit of a crank, but now you're advocating the mass murder of schoolchildren. Hopefully The Argus will pass your IP address on to the police so that we can get you separated from decent society.

Oh i am sorry have i offended you ? h ah ha good....... i dont think i have broken any laws but please be my guest to pin some thing on if you cAn

Andy R wrote:
You're the one who thinks "the world is bust". So who's blinkered?

true-brightonian wrote:
Interesting how many people seem to think that it is fine that "no one pays until you earn over £21,000!". I can't decide if you sound more like estate agents or credit card salesmen. Buy now pay later, what a great idea to liberate people! Meanwhile, the rich get even richer and corporate tax evasion becomes accepted "as just the way things are". Thankfully the students have woken up to this massive con, even if so many of the rest of the country is still asleep. The students will resist until the end.

Pedroski wrote:

true-brightonian wrote:
Interesting how many people seem to think that it is fine that "no one pays until you earn over £21,000!". I can't decide if you sound more like estate agents or credit card salesmen. Buy now pay later, what a great idea to liberate people! Meanwhile, the rich get even richer and corporate tax evasion becomes accepted "as just the way things are". Thankfully the students have woken up to this massive con, even if so many of the rest of the country is still asleep. The students will resist until the end.

And there's interest being added all the time that the income is below the threshold and repayment are deferred. So 20 or 30 years down the line, when there's still no guarantee that income will be above the threshold, then the debt will have more than doubled. Handy that.

Finbar 1 wrote:

Tom V wrote:
And were any of these teens intending to go to uni or just out to cause trouble? These mindless actions harm an important message.

I certainly won't ever vote Lib-Dem after they've failed to honour yet another election pledge.

Me neither, next time round I think It's going to be UKIP, you can forget the rest.

Izzy Furreal wrote:
I was caught up in this ridiculous protest on my way home. How do these students think that wasting tax payers money, like they did on this protest, is going to help them get help with their tuition fees?

They just blew it all by having these protests all over the country. Policing these protests costs money. Maybe these students should have paid more attention in their maths lessons. Bunch of idiots the lot of them.

I also witnessed the unprovoked abuse and violence by the students on Western Road. This wasn't about school fees at all. It was more an opportunity to shout and vandalise our city. What good has come from this situation? Absolutely none.

The idiots even had their photos taken as they were so proud of their violence. Do they think that a Uni or a future employer is going to want to take thoughtless twits like them on. I don't think so!

Do they not think that their stupidity is going to follow them for the rest of their lives? There is nothing glamourous in being a bunch of bullies, which is essentially what they are.

Pedroski wrote:

Izzy Furreal wrote:
I was caught up in this ridiculous protest on my way home. How do these students think that wasting tax payers money, like they did on this protest, is going to help them get help with their tuition fees?

They just blew it all by having these protests all over the country. Policing these protests costs money. Maybe these students should have paid more attention in their maths lessons. Bunch of idiots the lot of them.

I also witnessed the unprovoked abuse and violence by the students on Western Road. This wasn't about school fees at all. It was more an opportunity to shout and vandalise our city. What good has come from this situation? Absolutely none.

The idiots even had their photos taken as they were so proud of their violence. Do they think that a Uni or a future employer is going to want to take thoughtless twits like them on. I don't think so!

Do they not think that their stupidity is going to follow them for the rest of their lives? There is nothing glamourous in being a bunch of bullies, which is essentially what they are.

Yeah, perhaps everyone should just shut up and keep quiet and accept everything, like good little people, so you can enjoy your journey home unhindered. I feel so sorry for you...having been delayed a bit. Hope you didn't miss anything important on the tele.

Izzy Furreal wrote:

Pedroski wrote:

Izzy Furreal wrote:
I was caught up in this ridiculous protest on my way home. How do these students think that wasting tax payers money, like they did on this protest, is going to help them get help with their tuition fees?

They just blew it all by having these protests all over the country. Policing these protests costs money. Maybe these students should have paid more attention in their maths lessons. Bunch of idiots the lot of them.

I also witnessed the unprovoked abuse and violence by the students on Western Road. This wasn't about school fees at all. It was more an opportunity to shout and vandalise our city. What good has come from this situation? Absolutely none.

The idiots even had their photos taken as they were so proud of their violence. Do they think that a Uni or a future employer is going to want to take thoughtless twits like them on. I don't think so!

Do they not think that their stupidity is going to follow them for the rest of their lives? There is nothing glamourous in being a bunch of bullies, which is essentially what they are.

Yeah, perhaps everyone should just shut up and keep quiet and accept everything, like good little people, so you can enjoy your journey home unhindered. I feel so sorry for you...having been delayed a bit. Hope you didn't miss anything important on the tele.

Your statement shows your lack of intelligence.. I didn't say that it had delayed or hindered my journey home at all. Can read English? Also, why do you assume that I would be rushing home to watch television???

I notice that you haven't bothered to comment on any of the issues I raised. Could it be that you are one of the idiots I spoke about by any chance ? :P

Fight Back wrote:

Andy R wrote: You're the one who thinks "the world is bust". So who's blinkered?

If you think the size of our debt and our deficit running at 11.5% of our GDP means we're not in serious trouble then you're seriously deluded. Given all these students are meant to be so clever how would they suggest we reduce the deficit AND start to pay back what we have already borrowed ?

Pedroski wrote:

Izzy Furreal wrote:

Pedroski wrote:

Izzy Furreal wrote:
I was caught up in this ridiculous protest on my way home. How do these students think that wasting tax payers money, like they did on this protest, is going to help them get help with their tuition fees?

They just blew it all by having these protests all over the country. Policing these protests costs money. Maybe these students should have paid more attention in their maths lessons. Bunch of idiots the lot of them.

I also witnessed the unprovoked abuse and violence by the students on Western Road. This wasn't about school fees at all. It was more an opportunity to shout and vandalise our city. What good has come from this situation? Absolutely none.

The idiots even had their photos taken as they were so proud of their violence. Do they think that a Uni or a future employer is going to want to take thoughtless twits like them on. I don't think so!

Do they not think that their stupidity is going to follow them for the rest of their lives? There is nothing glamourous in being a bunch of bullies, which is essentially what they are.

Yeah, perhaps everyone should just shut up and keep quiet and accept everything, like good little people, so you can enjoy your journey home unhindered. I feel so sorry for you...having been delayed a bit. Hope you didn't miss anything important on the tele.

Your statement shows your lack of intelligence.. I didn't say that it had delayed or hindered my journey home at all. Can read English? Also, why do you assume that I would be rushing home to watch television???

I notice that you haven't bothered to comment on any of the issues I raised. Could it be that you are one of the idiots I spoke about by any chance ? :P

OK Izzy. First....what was ridiculous about the protest? Are you suggesting there is no reason for protest? And that the protesters should just let the cuts go without any fuss? Wasting tax payers money - how? Sure, there might be extra policing, but isn't that something we already pay for? In the great scheme of things, isn't that a price worth paying to allow people the 'freedom' to protest? (not that there is really freedom to protest when the students can't have a proper march as the extra policing was used to kettle them - no wonder a certain amount of aggression or frustration builds up when freedom of speech is denied).

You're the one who is making sweeping generalisations about the group of students as a whole - sure there were some bad apples, but you certainly can't label the whole groups of students as a "bunch of idiots, the lot of them" and "a bunch of bullies". And no, it wasn't seen by the vast majority of students as an "opportunity to shout and vandalise our city". And yes, some good will come out of it, even if it only shows the students what those in power really are like.

And no, I wasn't one of the protesters, but my college attending hard working daughter was, and will be on Tuesday as well.

Sorry, when you said you were "caught up in this ridiculous protest" on your way home, I kind of assumed you were upset about missing something on TV. I'll take that back.

cramp23 wrote:
For Christ sake people, get a grip!!!
3000 students marched in town to defend their future and all they get is right wing **** slagging them off, i really dont care if it took you an extra hour to get home, roadworks probably cause more chaos, the real reason you are moaning is cos you support the cuts obviously.
Well done to all the students, they atre marching again tomorrow and yes there was a extremely tiny minority who threw some apples and knocked over a couple of bins of crisps in the poundland but to just pick up on this small detail really stinks of sensationalism, The only violence i saw was police hitting kids for no reason but the fact that they were on the wrong side of the road or something as stupid, it was actual child abuse but hey as long as you can get to the shops on time that doesnt matter does it?

Izzy Furreal wrote:

cramp23 wrote: For Christ sake people, get a grip!!! 3000 students marched in town to defend their future and all they get is right wing **** slagging them off, i really dont care if it took you an extra hour to get home, roadworks probably cause more chaos, the real reason you are moaning is cos you support the cuts obviously. Well done to all the students, they atre marching again tomorrow and yes there was a extremely tiny minority who threw some apples and knocked over a couple of bins of crisps in the poundland but to just pick up on this small detail really stinks of sensationalism, The only violence i saw was police hitting kids for no reason but the fact that they were on the wrong side of the road or something as stupid, it was actual child abuse but hey as long as you can get to the shops on time that doesnt matter does it?

You've just proved yourself to be an angry little idiot!.. You are so immature! The students are NOT the only people suffering right now, the whole country is! The world doesn't revolve around kids and students you know. Where do you get the idea that because someone  agree with you, they must be right wing??? Do you even know what rational thinking is? it doesn't seem so. Your immaturity abounds!

cramp23 wrote:

Izzy Furreal wrote:

cramp23 wrote: For Christ sake people, get a grip!!! 3000 students marched in town to defend their future and all they get is right wing **** slagging them off, i really dont care if it took you an extra hour to get home, roadworks probably cause more chaos, the real reason you are moaning is cos you support the cuts obviously. Well done to all the students, they atre marching again tomorrow and yes there was a extremely tiny minority who threw some apples and knocked over a couple of bins of crisps in the poundland but to just pick up on this small detail really stinks of sensationalism, The only violence i saw was police hitting kids for no reason but the fact that they were on the wrong side of the road or something as stupid, it was actual child abuse but hey as long as you can get to the shops on time that doesnt matter does it?

You've just proved yourself to be an angry little idiot!.. You are so immature! The students are NOT the only people suffering right now, the whole country is! The world doesn't revolve around kids and students you know. Where do you get the idea that because someone  agree with you, they must be right wing??? Do you even know what rational thinking is? it doesn't seem so. Your immaturity abounds!

Yes you are right, the students are not the only ones suffering right now but the vote for education cuts is coming up so thats why the students are out, you can bet that many more will be out on the streets when the other cuts start hitting so that kills your first half of arguement.
And reading some of the posts on here and the usual suspects that post sound like right wing trash so that why i wrote that, call me immature if that makes you feel better little girl but i hope the cuts hit you hard and then you can keep your mouth shut and do nothing cos it would make you a hypocrite right?