Brighton street measures electricity use on the road (From The Argus)

So not so 'Tidy' Street then.... What's wrong with a notice board, or daily email? What next for 'Snub?' Graffiti-ing my daily bank balance on my shed? Spray painting my mobile phone bill on the side of my car?

The world has gone completely, utterly mad...

What a great idea and well done to the people of Tidy Street for taking part. I will go and have a look today. This is a great starting point for a community to tackle energy use. Of course, the usual doom mongers and knockers will not agree.

Agreed, can no one else but a so called graffiti artist hold a spray can and use stencils these days?

I am ashamed at what graffiti has become, thanks to the trendy media and muppets like Banksy.

Thankfully there are still a few true artists out there.

HJarrs wrote:
What a great idea and well done to the people of Tidy Street for taking part. I will go and have a look today. This is a great starting point for a community to tackle energy use. Of course, the usual doom mongers and knockers will not agree.

For the record, I am not a doom monger or a knocker. It is vitally important that we tackle energy use in a credible, sensible way; we have become a world built on spin, gimmickry and casual flirting with 'change.' If society and politicians were actually set on making national improvements, then we would just get on with it... What message does this send out? None. Apart from the fact that there are a few trendy beatniks in a town who think that this is going to have an impact on energy use. IT'S NOT!!!!

Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

pun master wrote:

HJarrs wrote:
What a great idea and well done to the people of Tidy Street for taking part. I will go and have a look today. This is a great starting point for a community to tackle energy use. Of course, the usual doom mongers and knockers will not agree.

For the record, I am not a doom monger or a knocker. It is vitally important that we tackle energy use in a credible, sensible way; we have become a world built on spin, gimmickry and casual flirting with 'change.' If society and politicians were actually set on making national improvements, then we would just get on with it... What message does this send out? None. Apart from the fact that there are a few trendy beatniks in a town who think that this is going to have an impact on energy use. IT'S NOT!!!!

Hmmm, seems my point about knockers is well demonstrated.

This appears to be part of an experiment, details here...http://www.ch
angeproject.info/pro
jects.html, where sharing of information may result in a reduction of energy use. Good luck to them, I hope it works.

At least these people are doing something productive. You're just sat curled over your laptop whining, which achieves nothing.

Wait. Yes, you're right. Lets get down there and remove it immediately. B*lls to the community, and their concern about energy usage. If anybody needs me i'll be dealing with bigger fish, like saving the world - from my laptop.

At least these people are doing something productive. You're just sat curled over your laptop whining, which achieves nothing.

Wait. Yes, you're right. Lets get down there and remove it immediately. B*lls to the community, and their concern about energy usage. If anybody needs me i'll be dealing with bigger fish, like saving the world - from my laptop.

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

Your reactionary, curmudgeonly comment makes you what I would term a c**t. I hope the 30 somethings doing things you're too boring to do tell you to shove it.

And all your comments prove my point: This country is full of wacky tw4ts who think the answer to some of the most serious problems facing our society is with silly little gimmicks like this - stop coming up with daft projects and actually spend some time trying to invent something that will practically reduce energy usage... Muppets. Oh, and I don't own a laptop, prefer to use pc in the library, thus reducing energy usage....

Interociter wrote:

Dezire wrote: Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

Your reactionary, curmudgeonly comment makes you what I would term a c**t. I hope the 30 somethings doing things you're too boring to do tell you to shove it.

Yes, but the sentiment is correct - all this wackiness and being different doesn't actually get anything solved - I am all for trying to bring the community together, I am definitely all for reducing energy use, and I have to condede that at least this is publicising the cause - but the fact does remain that there are a hell of a lot of people who spend more time inventing daft projects like this that don't actually solve the problem - in fact if you look at the graph he has spray painted, you'll notice that whilst the street is below the Brighton average, there usage is fluctuating up and down so broadly remaining the same, and therefore is not reducing. In the last year I have installed better insulation, an active energy meter, standby overrides, more low energy devices, am halfway through a solar panel installation, have planted fruit trees and created vegetable patches in my garden, got some chickens, am having grey water recycling systems installed, bought a more efficient car, booked a local UK holiday, and spent time educating my kids on the importance of the environment. Now these won't have a huge impact, I don't think I am anything special, but at least these are more practical steps that actually make a difference... I just don't see how some sort of half-arsed art project is going to help the cause, other than a bit of publicity, which I am happy to contribute to...

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

ilove seeing things like this in Brighton it's what makes this city unique and points to stand out from the rest. Seeing this walking to the gym certainly made me question and think about energy use, is this not surely the point?

If you don't like living in a city that likes to express its uniqueness and creativity a little and want another hum drum city just bumbling through life till you die then move somewhere like Eastbourne and stop trying to p*$$ on everyone else’s parade

pentle wrote:

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

ilove seeing things like this in Brighton it's what makes this city unique and points to stand out from the rest. Seeing this walking to the gym certainly made me question and think about energy use, is this not surely the point?

If you don't like living in a city that likes to express its uniqueness and creativity a little and want another hum drum city just bumbling through life till you die then move somewhere like Eastbourne and stop trying to p*$$ on everyone else’s parade

If you manage to ignore TV and newspapers and have to rely on graffiti to get your inspiration for such deep thinking, then God help Brighton !

Pentle quote: Seeing this walking to the gym certainly made me question and think about energy use, is this not surely the point?

It has worked then, to some degree, but I question the fact you needed to see this gimmick to give a thought about energy use.

Were you not aware that the worlds resources are quickly running out and the UK will soon experience energy shortages, not to mention the cost of household fuel? One would of thought that most people would try to save money on their bills, unless you are filthy rich or just plain stupid.

Better to just post it up on facebook there is some fantastic stuff on there really funny private stuff

Ian B Brewers wrote:
Better to just post it up on facebook there is some fantastic stuff on there really funny private stuff

you are not wrong ian that geezer ron has some fantastic photos he he

Burgess901 wrote:
Pentle quote: Seeing this walking to the gym certainly made me question and think about energy use, is this not surely the point? It has worked then, to some degree, but I question the fact you needed to see this gimmick to give a thought about energy use. Were you not aware that the worlds resources are quickly running out and the UK will soon experience energy shortages, not to mention the cost of household fuel? One would of thought that most people would try to save money on their bills, unless you are filthy rich or just plain stupid.

I was indeed aware, but it brought the importance of it to mind and stressed this important point further. Surely it's better to express this point in different ways as for some people this will make more of an impact than a newspaper article of public information ad, people absorb info differently to others. It also made me think about collaborative energy use and that working together is far better than just doing it on your own as it encourages others that otherwise may not be that fussed.

And no I’m not filthy rich or stupid, well not in this aspect of life.

Ridiculous..... What is this town coming to.

Been a resident all my life an dthings are really going down hill.

"TACKY" .......

There's a simple way to cut energy use - it's called a switch and reading an electricity bill. Why do we need all this nonsense?

Should it say? UK AVERAGE not BRIGHTON AVERAGE or is it trying to say that BRIGHTON AND HOVE are the fore runners in ENERGY SAVING.I would rather see more TIME EFFORT AND ENERGY put into more positive ideas than splashing paint all over the road and having to divert traffic while it dries causing more TRAFFIC PROBLEMS.Will we get an up date WEEK or MONTH?

*jo* wrote:

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

so these people trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different'.... are they doing anything to hurt you? no!

Its great to see that people resort to such profanities with no reason.

You on the other hand have offended me, so how about you and your friends go f*ck yourselves? I think you'll find you are the c*nts

To all the wannabe C**ts out there who think they are trying to solve a problem but are instead have created a bigger one - spray paint contains aerosol and carbon dioxide and takes years to break down. The carbon footprint caused by the manufacturing of aerosols, let alone the equipment to remove this ridiculous publicity stunt (some wannabe Banksy) from the public highway far outweigh the message they are supposedly trying to convey.
I rest my case!!!

@Dezire

Yeah, no-one should ever doing anything a bit different. They should all stay at home and watch TV all day. Boring old ****.

*jo* wrote:

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

so these people trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different'.... are they doing anything to hurt you? no!

Its great to see that people resort to such profanities with no reason.

You on the other hand have offended me, so how about you and your friends go f*ck yourselves? I think you'll find you are the c*nts

Well said Jo! @Dezire - what an ignorant comment. The older people you see in the town that are probably twice your age, skateboarding, alternately dressed, not conforming and doing their own thing were here in Brighton doing it all while you were still in your nappies. your generation does nothing new, it just takes from the past. you think your different and better than us? Dream on, you're just a cheap plastic copy of our brilliant past.

Dezire wrote:

*jo* wrote:

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

so these people trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different'.... are they doing anything to hurt you? no!

Its great to see that people resort to such profanities with no reason.

You on the other hand have offended me, so how about you and your friends go f*ck yourselves? I think you'll find you are the c*nts

To all the wannabe C**ts out there who think they are trying to solve a problem but are instead have created a bigger one - spray paint contains aerosol and carbon dioxide and takes years to break down. The carbon footprint caused by the manufacturing of aerosols, let alone the equipment to remove this ridiculous publicity stunt (some wannabe Banksy) from the public highway far outweigh the message they are supposedly trying to convey.
I rest my case!!!

It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

Dezire wrote:

*jo* wrote:

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

so these people trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different'.... are they doing anything to hurt you? no!

Its great to see that people resort to such profanities with no reason.

You on the other hand have offended me, so how about you and your friends go f*ck yourselves? I think you'll find you are the c*nts

To all the wannabe C**ts out there who think they are trying to solve a problem but are instead have created a bigger one - spray paint contains aerosol and carbon dioxide and takes years to break down. The carbon footprint caused by the manufacturing of aerosols, let alone the equipment to remove this ridiculous publicity stunt (some wannabe Banksy) from the public highway far outweigh the message they are supposedly trying to convey.
I rest my case!!!

It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

Congratulations to the residents, whatever anyone's point of view on what they have done, they have achieved publicity and comment for their cause.

Sianmur wrote:
It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

Ain't my fault for inaccurate reporting. You c:::ts have becoming confused with doing something different and making a real change with a publicity stunt that achieves nothing but a column in the local rag and a notch on the bed post for the aspiring artist.
I would have the utmost respect for someone if they, for instance, bill-boarded every single high-street store that chooses to leave their lights on 24/7 all year round. Household power wastage is dwarfed by the near criminal commercial wastage! Draw your attentions to the real problem!
This might make real news, cause a real stir and be far less self-congratulatory.
The problem with me being a cu-t and you being one, is that I actually am different cu9t!. You just pretend to be.

Dezire wrote:
Typical Brighton stuff this. I am so tired of seeing wacky ageing 30 somethings trying to be 'radical' and 'a bit different' in Brighton. A fine example are the idiots far to old to own a skateboard, let alone ride one! They are what I and my friends term c**ts.

That's ironic, because it's actually what everyone else would call you.

Live and let live, or STFD & STFU.

Dezire wrote:

Sianmur wrote:
It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

Ain't my fault for inaccurate reporting. You c:::ts have becoming confused with doing something different and making a real change with a publicity stunt that achieves nothing but a column in the local rag and a notch on the bed post for the aspiring artist.
I would have the utmost respect for someone if they, for instance, bill-boarded every single high-street store that chooses to leave their lights on 24/7 all year round. Household power wastage is dwarfed by the near criminal commercial wastage! Draw your attentions to the real problem!
This might make real news, cause a real stir and be far less self-congratulatory.
The problem with me being a cu-t and you being one, is that I actually am different cu9t!. You just pretend to be.

I read and responded to your original post, and have now scrolled down to see this.

Having just reported you for being unnecessarily crass and hateful, I'd just like to point out that your behaviour here has just shown you to be a sad, immature and not very intelligent little person.

You are not better than anyone else, if anything, your attitude and behaviour show you to be far, far beneath the more mature, accepting residents of this city.

Your posts read like a young teenager's and your views are the sort of misplaced arrogance most people grow out of by the end of their teens.

Get a grip and a life and learn to develop some tolerance, because you are just making yourself look incredibly silly over a very positive article.

rosiedoes wrote:

Dezire wrote:

Sianmur wrote:
It's actually not spray paint that was used, but chalk spray. Which is non toxic and easily removable.

Ain't my fault for inaccurate reporting. You c:::ts have becoming confused with doing something different and making a real change with a publicity stunt that achieves nothing but a column in the local rag and a notch on the bed post for the aspiring artist.
I would have the utmost respect for someone if they, for instance, bill-boarded every single high-street store that chooses to leave their lights on 24/7 all year round. Household power wastage is dwarfed by the near criminal commercial wastage! Draw your attentions to the real problem!
This might make real news, cause a real stir and be far less self-congratulatory.
The problem with me being a cu-t and you being one, is that I actually am different cu9t!. You just pretend to be.

I read and responded to your original post, and have now scrolled down to see this.

Having just reported you for being unnecessarily crass and hateful, I'd just like to point out that your behaviour here has just shown you to be a sad, immature and not very intelligent little person.

You are not better than anyone else, if anything, your attitude and behaviour show you to be far, far beneath the more mature, accepting residents of this city.

Your posts read like a young teenager's and your views are the sort of misplaced arrogance most people grow out of by the end of their teens.

Get a grip and a life and learn to develop some tolerance, because you are just making yourself look incredibly silly over a very positive article.

You are reporting someone for expressing their views which just happens to oppose yours, or the majority.
Ooops if I swore, but did not other do so.
You are the one who should be reported for trying to oppress the right to free-speech and one persons opinion(!!!) Which is exactly the purpose of this section of the Argus website.
Bring it on.

wow more breaking news in this f**king tory rag but not good enough for editors choice
hope these idiots get arrested for criminal damage and made to clean it off
why dont the residents walk the street with A boards so everone can see who these idiot are

... and what further offends me, apart from the fact that this seems to condone graffiti, is that I have only just realised that the whole daft stunt has actually been funded via a Government agency... sure the local council employees will be over the moon as they open their P45's... Maybe the Government would do better diverting the money to retrain those redundant employees to become smart energy meter installers - tackling unemployment and cutting down energy usage... Or is that too obvious?

pun master wrote:
... and what further offends me, apart from the fact that this seems to condone graffiti, is that I have only just realised that the whole daft stunt has actually been funded via a Government agency... sure the local council employees will be over the moon as they open their P45's... Maybe the Government would do better diverting the money to retrain those redundant employees to become smart energy meter installers - tackling unemployment and cutting down energy usage... Or is that too obvious?

I'm with ya buddy. Watch out for Sianmur - he/she reports people who speak common sense.

Dezire wrote:
Sianmur has reported me for my opinion. What a sad day.

"Ain't my fault for inaccurate reporting. You c:::ts have becoming confused with doing something different and making a real change with a publicity stunt that achieves nothing but a column in the local rag and a notch on the bed post for the aspiring artist.
I would have the utmost respect for someone if they, for instance, bill-boarded every single high-street store that chooses to leave their lights on 24/7 all year round. Household power wastage is dwarfed by the near criminal commercial wastage! Draw your attentions to the real problem!
This might make real news, cause a real stir and be far less self-congratulatory.


The problem with me being a cu-t and you being one, is that I actually am a different cu9t!. You just pretend to be."

erm no I didn't
I really wouldn't be bothered.

Wow! this item very nearly became an interesting debate. What a shame it had to descend into a bad language, slanging match.

Security words were:
work-find

pun master wrote:

HJarrs wrote: What a great idea and well done to the people of Tidy Street for taking part. I will go and have a look today. This is a great starting point for a community to tackle energy use. Of course, the usual doom mongers and knockers will not agree.

For the record, I am not a doom monger or a knocker. It is vitally important that we tackle energy use in a credible, sensible way; we have become a world built on spin, gimmickry and casual flirting with 'change.' If society and politicians were actually set on making national improvements, then we would just get on with it... What message does this send out? None. Apart from the fact that there are a few trendy beatniks in a town who think that this is going to have an impact on energy use. IT'S NOT!!!!

Then again, it just might.
Having looked at the photograph at the top of this article, I notice that Snub has used primary colours, linear projection and large, friendly lettering.
Therefore children can, from a very early age, find energy-saving both informative and fun and, thus, instil in them an awareness of their environment.
A good thing, is it not?