Sussex Police vow protesters will not bring Brighton and Hove to a halt (From The Argus)

Nice big 'kettle', somewhere way out of town, should sort it out. Then they can 'protest' to their hearts content, and not spoil the bank holiday weekend for shopkeepers, visitors , and ordinary people, 99% of whom have no interest whatsoever in what they are protesting about.
I'm fed up with our city being held to ransom by a small, vocal minority, whose main reason for being there seems to be to have a ruck with the police, and disrupt normal life. It about time these demos were banned from the city centre.
As far as I'm concerned the police can do what they like.

it's only a tory who can make such a statement as they have everything other people have to fight for what they believe in
VOTE LABOUR is the anwser
freedom of speech fight for what you believe in
bring the city to a total standstill
shame tho to target the townhall on a day mary is not there

I'm sure it wont deter hordes of fat chavs from buying their tat in poundland and primark

Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

chrisinbrighton wrote:
it's only a tory who can make such a statement as they have everything other people have to fight for what they believe in VOTE LABOUR is the anwser freedom of speech fight for what you believe in bring the city to a total standstill shame tho to target the townhall on a day mary is not there

WRONG. I'm not a tory, and have never voted tory.
But I am an ordinary person who is totally fed up with POINTLESS protests that won't change government policy by one degree, but inconveniences thousands of ordinary people trying to enjoy their time off work.
If you REALLY want to make a difference, get out and vote for the party you support instead of saying 'I don't vote, I'm not part of the system, maaan'.
If you don't like the system you are always free to leave this country.
Take your protest to Westminster. None of the politicians in Brighton will be out today, or give a flying one.
There's one word to describe this rag-tag protest - SELFISH.

Yet again it seems Sussex Police are unable to cope without 'help' from the met. kent and Thames valley. Time for a change at the top of sussex police i think.

Oh and a nice hint to the protesters from Rodger: “If they block the Clock Tower, it brings the whole city's bus network to a halt".....

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:
Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

Chief Supt Bartlett has told businesses to consider their security and vulnerability. Thats because the usless Police can't keep control of a few smelly thugs. Sort yourself out Sussex Police and protect the public and businesses from scum!!!

They are not protesters, simply thugs and vandals who think it is OK to terrorise locals and visitors. They are too stupid to realise they are having zero impact on big name stores or banks, but are ruining the local traders who rely on a calm and happy atmosphere for tourist trade.

Its abit pathetic that most of the vandals claiming to be against tax evasion do not work themselves but its OK for them to evade work or taxation.

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:
Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

My (reliable) source tells me he may be retiring later in the year.

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote: Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

My (reliable) source tells me he may be retiring later in the year.

cor it will be like a royal funeral or worse it will give him more time to get involved with other things, he could end up completely hogging the paper

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote: Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

My (reliable) source tells me he may be retiring later in the year.

cor it will be like a royal funeral or worse it will give him more time to get involved with other things, he could end up completely hogging the paper

He does already!

Ballroom Blitz wrote:

chrisinbrighton wrote:
it's only a tory who can make such a statement as they have everything other people have to fight for what they believe in VOTE LABOUR is the anwser freedom of speech fight for what you believe in bring the city to a total standstill shame tho to target the townhall on a day mary is not there

WRONG. I'm not a tory, and have never voted tory.
But I am an ordinary person who is totally fed up with POINTLESS protests that won't change government policy by one degree, but inconveniences thousands of ordinary people trying to enjoy their time off work.
If you REALLY want to make a difference, get out and vote for the party you support instead of saying 'I don't vote, I'm not part of the system, maaan'.
If you don't like the system you are always free to leave this country.
Take your protest to Westminster. None of the politicians in Brighton will be out today, or give a flying one.
There's one word to describe this rag-tag protest - SELFISH.

Labour and Tory. Two cheeks of the same arse in my opinion.

Politicians don't hold power, businesses hold power. Disruption to business exercises power. The police, as usual, are acting as the hired thugs of the bosses, upholding “order” (social control and repression) at the expense of basic human rights. If it was up to me, these thugs in blue would all be deported to somewhere like Iran, so they can live under the kind of regime they're trying to create here.

How is it 'thuggish' to fight back against the police state, but OK to belong to a paramilitary police force which exists solely for the purpose of using violence to uphold the dominant system? Look at Alfie Meadows, Ian Tomlinson and Charles de Menezes – what was done to them is far worse than any act the Black Bloc has ever done. Dissidents wouldn't need to use force if Thatcher, Major and Blair hadn't butchered the right to peacefully protest.

Also, how is it selfish to want to stop climate change (saving future generations), the arms trade (saving lives in faraway lands) or government cuts (protecting poor people)? I suppose this nasty little bigot thinks it's “selfish” not to conform to every last whim of the dominant system, to actually have honour, dignity and ethics – to think for oneself, instead of going along with a herd mentality. Well, if thinking for ourselves is 'selfishness' then we need A LOT more of it.

It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit
arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death.

If you think voting works, then look at what happened to the people who voted for Labour in the 1990s wanting to get rid of neoliberalism, only to get more of the same. Look at what happened with the Iraq war. Look at the votes of people who opposed tuition fees at the last election. Britain is run by the corporations and ACPO – changing the faces at the top makes no difference any more. In any case, the duty of good people to fight back against the police-state, global corporate despotism and atrocities such as the arms trade cannot be allowed to be held hostage to the whims of narrow-minded control-freaks and people who only care about their pocketbooks.

Oh, but your “right” to shop has been disrupted for a day. Poor little you. I'm sure you'll be scarred for life, like all the children killed by the guns sold at EDO or the people made homeless because of the cuts.

In what kind of fascist regime does the “right” to “not be disrupted” come before basic human rights such as the right to protest? If it was up to me, people who call for protests in city centres to be banned should be locked up for glorifying state terrorism and inciting the police to break human rights laws. That might help to drag this sad little country into the twenty-first century.

PS: we aren't free to go somewhere else, your ilk have gone around the world ruining all the half-decent countries one at a time – starting with the Scramble for Africa and the genocide of the Native Americans, and ending with the foisting of neoliberalism onto Scandinavia. If there was a single country in the world which still embodied something remotely akin to New Left values, I'd be there in a shot. On the other hand, there were and are a lot of fascist police-states which the order-worshippers could have made-off to in the 80s and 90s instead of destroying democracy in countries like Britain. The biggest mistake was failing to follow through the 1960s revolution and stamp out these nasty little nationalists before they ruined it all.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
Politicians don't hold power, businesses hold power. Disruption to business exercises power. The police, as usual, are acting as the hired thugs of the bosses, upholding “order” (social control and repression) at the expense of basic human rights. If it was up to me, these thugs in blue would all be deported to somewhere like Iran, so they can live under the kind of regime they're trying to create here. How is it 'thuggish' to fight back against the police state, but OK to belong to a paramilitary police force which exists solely for the purpose of using violence to uphold the dominant system? Look at Alfie Meadows, Ian Tomlinson and Charles de Menezes – what was done to them is far worse than any act the Black Bloc has ever done. Dissidents wouldn't need to use force if Thatcher, Major and Blair hadn't butchered the right to peacefully protest. Also, how is it selfish to want to stop climate change (saving future generations), the arms trade (saving lives in faraway lands) or government cuts (protecting poor people)? I suppose this nasty little bigot thinks it's “selfish” not to conform to every last whim of the dominant system, to actually have honour, dignity and ethics – to think for oneself, instead of going along with a herd mentality. Well, if thinking for ourselves is 'selfishness' then we need A LOT more of it. It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death. If you think voting works, then look at what happened to the people who voted for Labour in the 1990s wanting to get rid of neoliberalism, only to get more of the same. Look at what happened with the Iraq war. Look at the votes of people who opposed tuition fees at the last election. Britain is run by the corporations and ACPO – changing the faces at the top makes no difference any more. In any case, the duty of good people to fight back against the police-state, global corporate despotism and atrocities such as the arms trade cannot be allowed to be held hostage to the whims of narrow-minded control-freaks and people who only care about their pocketbooks. Oh, but your “right” to shop has been disrupted for a day. Poor little you. I'm sure you'll be scarred for life, like all the children killed by the guns sold at EDO or the people made homeless because of the cuts. In what kind of fascist regime does the “right” to “not be disrupted” come before basic human rights such as the right to protest? If it was up to me, people who call for protests in city centres to be banned should be locked up for glorifying state terrorism and inciting the police to break human rights laws. That might help to drag this sad little country into the twenty-first century. PS: we aren't free to go somewhere else, your ilk have gone around the world ruining all the half-decent countries one at a time – starting with the Scramble for Africa and the genocide of the Native Americans, and ending with the foisting of neoliberalism onto Scandinavia. If there was a single country in the world which still embodied something remotely akin to New Left values, I'd be there in a shot. On the other hand, there were and are a lot of fascist police-states which the order-worshippers could have made-off to in the 80s and 90s instead of destroying democracy in countries like Britain. The biggest mistake was failing to follow through the 1960s revolution and stamp out these nasty little nationalists before they ruined it all.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawww
wwwwnnnn.
And the Oscar for most misguided, pointless, inaccurate and uneducated rant goes to MikhailBakunin.
I especially loved the bit about EDO selling guns that kill children - oh dear.
I didn't realise they were showing re-runs of Citizen Smith on TV as I'm sure he said that in last weeks episode!!!

You think children in the Third World have bulletproof skins do you? And when these guns turn up on the streets of London you start whining for police to protect you. Serves you right for supporting arms traffickers.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
You think children in the Third World have bulletproof skins do you? And when these guns turn up on the streets of London you start whining for police to protect you. Serves you right for supporting arms traffickers.

I can only assume you're either on a wind up or really are THAT stupid.
Even the SmashEDO mob aren't saying that EDO 'Sell guns' - they admit that EDO makes ONE PART of the release mechanism on planes that holds bombs - not exactley 'selling guns' is it? If you're going to make statements like that then please try to do your homework firstso you don't look like a complete moron.

Sells guns, sells bomb parts, who cares. Minor technicality. You're still an apologist for genocide, and no-one cares what you think because you're also an enemy of human rights.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
Sells guns, sells bomb parts, who cares. Minor technicality. You're still an apologist for genocide, and no-one cares what you think because you're also an enemy of human rights.

Come on you are on a wind up. OK I get it now, you're actually against the protesters and want to show them up as idiots - nice idea and I wish I'd thought of it first!!
The fact that you've still got it wrong by saying 'bomb parts' shows that you must be taking the p@ss as NOONE is that thick!
Thanks for the giggles mate!

What a shame we have to put up with
faries like Mikhail Bakunin who know f**k all about f**k all.
His mother should have kept an aspirin
clasped firmly between her knees !

If EDO would sell me a gun, I would be only to pleased to shove it up mikhail bakunin jacksey before pulling the triger.

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:
Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

My (reliable) source tells me he may be retiring later in the year.

I heard he was in line for a position in Go-Ahead.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
Politicians don't hold power, businesses hold power. Disruption to business exercises power. The police, as usual, are acting as the hired thugs of the bosses, upholding “order” (social control and repression) at the expense of basic human rights. If it was up to me, these thugs in blue would all be deported to somewhere like Iran, so they can live under the kind of regime they're trying to create here. How is it 'thuggish' to fight back against the police state, but OK to belong to a paramilitary police force which exists solely for the purpose of using violence to uphold the dominant system? Look at Alfie Meadows, Ian Tomlinson and Charles de Menezes – what was done to them is far worse than any act the Black Bloc has ever done. Dissidents wouldn't need to use force if Thatcher, Major and Blair hadn't butchered the right to peacefully protest. Also, how is it selfish to want to stop climate change (saving future generations), the arms trade (saving lives in faraway lands) or government cuts (protecting poor people)? I suppose this nasty little bigot thinks it's “selfish” not to conform to every last whim of the dominant system, to actually have honour, dignity and ethics – to think for oneself, instead of going along with a herd mentality. Well, if thinking for ourselves is 'selfishness' then we need A LOT more of it. It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death. If you think voting works, then look at what happened to the people who voted for Labour in the 1990s wanting to get rid of neoliberalism, only to get more of the same. Look at what happened with the Iraq war. Look at the votes of people who opposed tuition fees at the last election. Britain is run by the corporations and ACPO – changing the faces at the top makes no difference any more. In any case, the duty of good people to fight back against the police-state, global corporate despotism and atrocities such as the arms trade cannot be allowed to be held hostage to the whims of narrow-minded control-freaks and people who only care about their pocketbooks. Oh, but your “right” to shop has been disrupted for a day. Poor little you. I'm sure you'll be scarred for life, like all the children killed by the guns sold at EDO or the people made homeless because of the cuts. In what kind of fascist regime does the “right” to “not be disrupted” come before basic human rights such as the right to protest? If it was up to me, people who call for protests in city centres to be banned should be locked up for glorifying state terrorism and inciting the police to break human rights laws. That might help to drag this sad little country into the twenty-first century. PS: we aren't free to go somewhere else, your ilk have gone around the world ruining all the half-decent countries one at a time – starting with the Scramble for Africa and the genocide of the Native Americans, and ending with the foisting of neoliberalism onto Scandinavia. If there was a single country in the world which still embodied something remotely akin to New Left values, I'd be there in a shot. On the other hand, there were and are a lot of fascist police-states which the order-worshippers could have made-off to in the 80s and 90s instead of destroying democracy in countries like Britain. The biggest mistake was failing to follow through the 1960s revolution and stamp out these nasty little nationalists before they ruined it all.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
'It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death.'

Is it safe to assume that none of your friends own cars and that you wouldn't dream of getting in one for a lift?
I can also assume that you don't have a mobile phone as no one 'needs' them. What really interests me is what company you get your internet connection from, especially as no one 'needs' the internet? I'm unaware of any 'ethical' providers for the internet. I may be wrong but I'm pretty **** sure that all connections are provided by big multinational companies that are unable to provide the connections in an 'ecologically sustainable' way.
I'll also assume that you don't drink or smoke as you wouldn't dream of buying anything from a big company.

I'd be very interested to know where you get your mobile and/or pc from. To ensure that it's not been made in a 'sweat shop'. Please feel free to let me know which 'ethical' companies you purchased your mobile/pc from.
It could be seen that you are simply a hypocrite who is also 'contributing to great evils in the world'.

oldskool_raver wrote:

MikhailBakunin wrote:
Politicians don't hold power, businesses hold power. Disruption to business exercises power. The police, as usual, are acting as the hired thugs of the bosses, upholding “order” (social control and repression) at the expense of basic human rights. If it was up to me, these thugs in blue would all be deported to somewhere like Iran, so they can live under the kind of regime they're trying to create here. How is it 'thuggish' to fight back against the police state, but OK to belong to a paramilitary police force which exists solely for the purpose of using violence to uphold the dominant system? Look at Alfie Meadows, Ian Tomlinson and Charles de Menezes – what was done to them is far worse than any act the Black Bloc has ever done. Dissidents wouldn't need to use force if Thatcher, Major and Blair hadn't butchered the right to peacefully protest. Also, how is it selfish to want to stop climate change (saving future generations), the arms trade (saving lives in faraway lands) or government cuts (protecting poor people)? I suppose this nasty little bigot thinks it's “selfish” not to conform to every last whim of the dominant system, to actually have honour, dignity and ethics – to think for oneself, instead of going along with a herd mentality. Well, if thinking for ourselves is 'selfishness' then we need A LOT more of it. It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death. If you think voting works, then look at what happened to the people who voted for Labour in the 1990s wanting to get rid of neoliberalism, only to get more of the same. Look at what happened with the Iraq war. Look at the votes of people who opposed tuition fees at the last election. Britain is run by the corporations and ACPO – changing the faces at the top makes no difference any more. In any case, the duty of good people to fight back against the police-state, global corporate despotism and atrocities such as the arms trade cannot be allowed to be held hostage to the whims of narrow-minded control-freaks and people who only care about their pocketbooks. Oh, but your “right” to shop has been disrupted for a day. Poor little you. I'm sure you'll be scarred for life, like all the children killed by the guns sold at EDO or the people made homeless because of the cuts. In what kind of fascist regime does the “right” to “not be disrupted” come before basic human rights such as the right to protest? If it was up to me, people who call for protests in city centres to be banned should be locked up for glorifying state terrorism and inciting the police to break human rights laws. That might help to drag this sad little country into the twenty-first century. PS: we aren't free to go somewhere else, your ilk have gone around the world ruining all the half-decent countries one at a time – starting with the Scramble for Africa and the genocide of the Native Americans, and ending with the foisting of neoliberalism onto Scandinavia. If there was a single country in the world which still embodied something remotely akin to New Left values, I'd be there in a shot. On the other hand, there were and are a lot of fascist police-states which the order-worshippers could have made-off to in the 80s and 90s instead of destroying democracy in countries like Britain. The biggest mistake was failing to follow through the 1960s revolution and stamp out these nasty little nationalists before they ruined it all.

MikhailBakunin wrote:
'It IS on the other hand selfish to put your own consumerist shopping, polluting the earth with your car, and your vile nationalist/authorit arian values put before other people's basic liberties. It is also hateful and intolerant. As to those of you who “work”, quite probably you are contributing to great evils in the world by making products no-one needs, in ways which are not ecologically sustainable, and helping big companies to make profits which make you complicit in sweatshops, ecocide and consumerist culture-death.'

Is it safe to assume that none of your friends own cars and that you wouldn't dream of getting in one for a lift?
I can also assume that you don't have a mobile phone as no one 'needs' them. What really interests me is what company you get your internet connection from, especially as no one 'needs' the internet? I'm unaware of any 'ethical' providers for the internet. I may be wrong but I'm pretty **** sure that all connections are provided by big multinational companies that are unable to provide the connections in an 'ecologically sustainable' way.
I'll also assume that you don't drink or smoke as you wouldn't dream of buying anything from a big company.

I'd be very interested to know where you get your mobile and/or pc from. To ensure that it's not been made in a 'sweat shop'. Please feel free to let me know which 'ethical' companies you purchased your mobile/pc from.
It could be seen that you are simply a hypocrite who is also 'contributing to great evils in the world'.

Old MikhailBakunin would probably turn in his minimalist grave if he read the tosh that this idiot who has taken his name is writing.

Mikhail was an absolute tosser, but Graham, or Stephen or whatever his boring name really is (typically trying to protect identity -if I am wrong then lets have a photo) eclipses him many times over.

Fancy a face to face chat, then lets meet up posh boy. If not then please stop wasting your and everyone else's time with your utter rubbish!

HF 05 wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Arthur Negus-Kebab wrote:
Suprise suprise! Roger French there again boys & girls. I wonder if his replacement will hawk the media?

Is he going?

My (reliable) source tells me he may be retiring later in the year.

I heard he was in line for a position in Go-Ahead.

Yeah I heard that one too. Some position in Oxford or something.