Smash EDO protesters on national recruitment drive (From The Argus)

Does anyone know what weapon components are made at this factory?

jimbobmaginty wrote:
Yeah well done Argus! Give them publicity!
They are not peaceful protesters! They cause damage which costs us money! Next time water cannon them!
Maybe some of us should join, find out who the leaders are and take them out!

"take them out"?

Sounds like you're not very peaceful either.

So they are conceding that Brighton doesn't support them and they need to bus in portestors? Bunch of hypocrites who are just out to cause trouble.

sandalman wrote:
Does anyone know what weapon components are made at this factory?

When I was an apprentice at MBM (then known as M.B. Metals Ltd. in Portslade) in the late 1960's they made no weapons of any kind. They made aircraft weapons delivery systems.

Archie Bun wrote:
So they are conceding that Brighton doesn't support them and they need to bus in portestors? Bunch of hypocrites who are just out to cause trouble.

Not quite sure how you reach that conclusion. Several polls on the Argus website in the past have not suggested any lack of local support.

In any case the issues surrounding the murderous arms trade are far from being just local.

ignoranceisnotbliss wrote:

Archie Bun wrote: So they are conceding that Brighton doesn't support them and they need to bus in portestors? Bunch of hypocrites who are just out to cause trouble.

Not quite sure how you reach that conclusion. Several polls on the Argus website in the past have not suggested any lack of local support. In any case the issues surrounding the murderous arms trade are far from being just local.

if they are trying to 'muster' support in other parts of the country it suggests that they don't have enough down here. It's pretty easy to understand. And any opinion polls in The Argus should bear in mind only the minority of people in Brighton read the paper. From your slanted comments it would appear you are biased and will obviously try and make out it is more popular than it is.

deltaP wrote:

sandalman wrote:
Does anyone know what weapon components are made at this factory?

When I was an apprentice at MBM (then known as M.B. Metals Ltd. in Portslade) in the late 1960's they made no weapons of any kind. They made aircraft weapons delivery systems.

A bullet would be of little use without a gun. A weapons delivery system is a part of the weapon as is the aircraft itself.

Archie Bun wrote:

ignoranceisnotbliss wrote:

Archie Bun wrote: So they are conceding that Brighton doesn't support them and they need to bus in portestors? Bunch of hypocrites who are just out to cause trouble.

Not quite sure how you reach that conclusion. Several polls on the Argus website in the past have not suggested any lack of local support. In any case the issues surrounding the murderous arms trade are far from being just local.

if they are trying to 'muster' support in other parts of the country it suggests that they don't have enough down here. It's pretty easy to understand. And any opinion polls in The Argus should bear in mind only the minority of people in Brighton read the paper. From your slanted comments it would appear you are biased and will obviously try and make out it is more popular than it is.

So because I hold an opinion I am "slanted" or "biased". In that case clearly you are too and you would try to make out that the campaign is less popular than it is.

So, what do they actually make at this "arms factory" in Moulscoomb, that provides a number of jobs for locals?

I don't understand? If EDO really do make weapons, then why don't they use them to kill all the protestors? That's what weapons are for, isn't it?

ignoranceisnotbliss wrote:

jimbobmaginty wrote:
Yeah well done Argus! Give them publicity!
They are not peaceful protesters! They cause damage which costs us money! Next time water cannon them!
Maybe some of us should join, find out who the leaders are and take them out!

"take them out"?

Sounds like you're not very peaceful either.

No, no, no. Surely he means take them out for a drink, perhaps a visit to the cinema, pizza afterwards... all sorts of possibilities.

PorkBoat wrote:
So, what do they actually make at this "arms factory" in Moulscoomb, that provides a number of jobs for locals?

What they make (and have admitted in court to making) are essential weapons release and electronic interface systems for most of the US, UK and NATO warplanes, not to mention being the sole rights holder for the Israeli Air Force F-16s bomb rack and arming units, and they also helped design (and they own the rights to) weapons systems used on the CIA Predator Drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan widely regarded as extra judicial assassination and therefore illegal under international law.

On top of that they invented a new bomb rack connector system called the FRCS that is included within the next generation F-35 warplane also to be supplied to Israel, and most likely to be used in any attack on Iran .

The FRCS has already been used in numerous bombing raids by NATO in Afghanistan leading to the deaths of scores of civilians.

Any other questions ? please ask.

Servalan wrote:
I don't understand? If EDO really do make weapons, then why don't they use them to kill all the protestors? That's what weapons are for, isn't it?

While it unfortunately seems perfectly OK to some to do this in other countries using EDO weapons it is actually illegal here. Just in case you need reminding.

jimbobmaginty wrote:
Yeah well done Argus! Give them publicity!
They are not peaceful protesters! They cause damage which costs us money! Next time water cannon them!
Maybe some of us should join, find out who the leaders are and take them out!

You don't act peacefully towards child killers you lock them up.

ignoranceisnotbliss wrote:

Servalan wrote:
I don't understand? If EDO really do make weapons, then why don't they use them to kill all the protestors? That's what weapons are for, isn't it?

While it unfortunately seems perfectly OK to some to do this in other countries using EDO weapons it is actually illegal here. Just in case you need reminding.

Thank you for explaining my joke :)

You're welcome.

zrfau wrote:

PorkBoat wrote: So, what do they actually make at this "arms factory" in Moulscoomb, that provides a number of jobs for locals?

What they make (and have admitted in court to making) are essential weapons release and electronic interface systems for most of the US, UK and NATO warplanes, not to mention being the sole rights holder for the Israeli Air Force F-16s bomb rack and arming units, and they also helped design (and they own the rights to) weapons systems used on the CIA Predator Drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan widely regarded as extra judicial assassination and therefore illegal under international law. On top of that they invented a new bomb rack connector system called the FRCS that is included within the next generation F-35 warplane also to be supplied to Israel, and most likely to be used in any attack on Iran . The FRCS has already been used in numerous bombing raids by NATO in Afghanistan leading to the deaths of scores of civilians. Any other questions ? please ask.

OK let's get rid of ALL the manufacturing we do in this country just because you don't agree with it....yeh, that's a great idea isn't it.

NOT.

The thing with business like this is that they will take their factories and knowledge to another country and continue to do the same thing.

You won't stop it, you will displace it and to be honest, I'd rather we actually have a semblence of a manufacturing industry still in this country.

We have become a service country, we do not produce & export enough of our own goods to stand on our own two feet when the sh*t hits the fan economically......bu
t that's OK because at least we're not manufacturing weapons components. HAH

AngelicDevil wrote:

zrfau wrote:

PorkBoat wrote: So, what do they actually make at this "arms factory" in Moulscoomb, that provides a number of jobs for locals?

What they make (and have admitted in court to making) are essential weapons release and electronic interface systems for most of the US, UK and NATO warplanes, not to mention being the sole rights holder for the Israeli Air Force F-16s bomb rack and arming units, and they also helped design (and they own the rights to) weapons systems used on the CIA Predator Drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan widely regarded as extra judicial assassination and therefore illegal under international law. On top of that they invented a new bomb rack connector system called the FRCS that is included within the next generation F-35 warplane also to be supplied to Israel, and most likely to be used in any attack on Iran . The FRCS has already been used in numerous bombing raids by NATO in Afghanistan leading to the deaths of scores of civilians. Any other questions ? please ask.

OK let's get rid of ALL the manufacturing we do in this country just because you don't agree with it....yeh, that's a great idea isn't it.

NOT.

The thing with business like this is that they will take their factories and knowledge to another country and continue to do the same thing.

You won't stop it, you will displace it and to be honest, I'd rather we actually have a semblence of a manufacturing industry still in this country.

We have become a service country, we do not produce & export enough of our own goods to stand on our own two feet when the sh*t hits the fan economically......bu

t that's OK because at least we're not manufacturing weapons components. HAH

Why should our job security in one of the richest countries in the world be more important that their lives in some of the poorest.

Your obsession with your own current financial well-being at the expense of others entire lives is morally corrupt.

Maybe we should invest in the manufacture and export of everything from torture machines to biological and nuclear weapons as there is a market. Why not try getting into traffic of child sex slaves too, I'm sure our economy would benefit as slave owners would contribute the badly needed revenues so our standard of living can be maintained.
AS for weapons sales, why don't we start some wars in the middle east to drum up demand...oh yes... we do that already.