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Fighting crime with the power of prayer

Police are enlisting the power of prayer to cut crime.

The church-backed charity Redeeming Our Communities is being invited to help solve problems in areas across Sussex.

According to the charity’s website, it was founded in Greater Manchester in 2004 to try to reduce violent crime “through prayer and action”.

It works by promoting partnerships between police, councils, voluntary groups and police.

A report before Sussex Police Authority’s neighbourhood policing scrutiny committee revealed the charity is being invited to set up schemes across the county, after success in Bognor and Littlehampton.

The report said Sussex Police want to work with the 100,000 churchgoers in the county, and police in different districts are in contact with local churches about local issues.

More than 250 people attended the first meeting of a Redeeming Our Communities scheme in Eastbourne in October.

The charity is now working with police to launch schemes in Brighton, Mid Sussex, Crawley and Hastings.

The papers also revealed that “street pastor” schemes, under which volunteers speak to people in the street to try to solve urban problems, are being introduced in Bexhill and Mid Sussex.

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Brighton has 24 street pastors to help police city-centre streets at night, while Hastings, Worthing, Eastbourne and Crawley have weekend patrols.

The committee is due to discuss the proposals at Sackville House, Brooks Close, Lewes, at 2.15pm today (Wednesday, November 23).

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Comments(22)

Falstaff says...
1:02pm Wed 23 Nov 11

God knows if this will be effective - but it's worth a try.

ArundelTerrazzo says...
1:13pm Wed 23 Nov 11

God help us!

Servalan says...
1:20pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Oh christ

Pitviper says...
1:47pm Wed 23 Nov 11

In the bible, john 11:35

Jesus Wept!

puddingandpi says...
2:02pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Great, 21st century life under the Tories - you know they're trying to get rid of some protective employment laws? Children up chimneys, women down mines, destitute families being thrown onto the streets...

Hotbeans says...
2:24pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Instead of praying, they could actually be doing something to help.

adamhighway says...
2:31pm Wed 23 Nov 11

First, why is this being reported when it's far to late to have any input with the ominously named "committee".

Second, what "power" of prayer?! Surely getting involved in the community, talking to people, reaching out help those who are in need/less fortunate (what a wonderfully Tory-sounding euphemism!) require no prayer, but rather, a concern for and the interest in others? In fact, what does prayer, demonstrably, do? Nothing, other than distract you from doing something, waste your time, and give those who yield responsibility for their own lives to some phantom father figure the illusion of having done something good.

Pathetic. We are not Texas!

Mo.StGrumble says...
3:10pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Nothing new here - Sussex Police have always operated on the basis of a wing and a prayer.

NickBrt says...
3:59pm Wed 23 Nov 11

I must say I turn to prayer when the students next door make a noise in the middle of the night. I shoud out 'Jesus Christ or for God's Sake.' Sadly He doesn't seem to answer as they never shut up. Hey ho.

Tailgaters Anonymous says...
4:40pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Desperation can force actions to any lengths but the more-cynical of us doubt that this will have the slightest effect!

Hi Spaniola says...
4:43pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Well why not? They long ago gave up on Detection and Police Work! Nothing like calling on the assistance of people who have the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

This owuld make Sussex Police a laughing stock among other Forces if it were not a laughing stock among other Forces...


MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!...

JEDI KNIGHTS NEXT!

HappyFish says...
4:52pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Committed Christians know the power of prayer to change things outside their control. They pray to a supernatural God whom they can address as Father, as the Lord Jesus Christ instructed his followers. Sadly many of those pouring contempt on prayer cannot call God their Father and don’t see prayer answered as they are praying to someone they don’t have faith in.

Prayer is not a substitute for action but a positive attempt to involve our Heavenly Father in the problems that surround us. The Bible has much to say about prayer but sadly many in our society dismiss its teaching without fully exploring it. Many of the problems the police are asking Christians to pray about are a direct result of a nation that has turned its back on its Christian heritage.

A few years ago there was a problem of cars being stolen in Woodingdean. The Police asked Christians to pray. On the nights they prayed no cars were stolen. One local policeman described it as spooky – not my choice of words but a natural response to a supernatural answer to prayer. The police are not fools as has been intimated but know through experience that praying Christians change situations. They too need our prayers as they seek to maintain law and order in an increasingly fractured and lawless society.

Hi Spaniola says...
4:59pm Wed 23 Nov 11

HappyFish wrote:
Committed Christians know the power of prayer to change things outside their control. They pray to a supernatural God whom they can address as Father, as the Lord Jesus Christ instructed his followers. Sadly many of those pouring contempt on prayer cannot call God their Father and don’t see prayer answered as they are praying to someone they don’t have faith in.

Prayer is not a substitute for action but a positive attempt to involve our Heavenly Father in the problems that surround us. The Bible has much to say about prayer but sadly many in our society dismiss its teaching without fully exploring it. Many of the problems the police are asking Christians to pray about are a direct result of a nation that has turned its back on its Christian heritage.

A few years ago there was a problem of cars being stolen in Woodingdean. The Police asked Christians to pray. On the nights they prayed no cars were stolen. One local policeman described it as spooky – not my choice of words but a natural response to a supernatural answer to prayer. The police are not fools as has been intimated but know through experience that praying Christians change situations. They too need our prayers as they seek to maintain law and order in an increasingly fractured and lawless society.
HAHAHA Brilliant piece of SATIRE there haha I loved the local Police saying it was 'spooky' Keep it up.

Hi Spaniola says...
5:01pm Wed 23 Nov 11

I remember once when I was younger, I prayed and prayed for a new bicycle...but after many months, I had it explained to me that God did not work like that.... So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. RESULT

adamhighway says...
5:03pm Wed 23 Nov 11

HappyFish ...

Balderdash!!! Every single experiment to investigate the "power" of prayer has resulted in either no statistical difference, or a statistically WORSE outcome for the prayerful situation.

Abdicating responsibility, and claiming some sort of moral destitution which can be attributed to the decline of christianity, are all very comfortable ways to avoid facing difficult choices.

Christianity is responsible for many of the worst atrocities in history, and stood idly by in the face of more.

The sooner we can dismiss some farcical nonsense and get on with dealing with the real problems in this one and only life, the better for everybody!

Tammy Flugh says...
5:49pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Pray? God can't even stop people nicking lead off his own churches.

Justin says...
7:03pm Wed 23 Nov 11

I think the police are interested in anything that gives them an excuse to avoid difficult or dangerous police work. So spending time with a load of deluded pastors is right up their street. They also have no right to encourage Christians in their efforts to recruit vulnerable people into their particular sect.

Angryoldman says...
7:24pm Wed 23 Nov 11

I hope not one penny of my tax is being wasted on this bronze age tripe.

Baldseagull says...
10:11pm Wed 23 Nov 11

HappyFish wrote:
Committed Christians know the power of prayer to change things outside their control. They pray to a supernatural God whom they can address as Father, as the Lord Jesus Christ instructed his followers. Sadly many of those pouring contempt on prayer cannot call God their Father and don’t see prayer answered as they are praying to someone they don’t have faith in.

Prayer is not a substitute for action but a positive attempt to involve our Heavenly Father in the problems that surround us. The Bible has much to say about prayer but sadly many in our society dismiss its teaching without fully exploring it. Many of the problems the police are asking Christians to pray about are a direct result of a nation that has turned its back on its Christian heritage.

A few years ago there was a problem of cars being stolen in Woodingdean. The Police asked Christians to pray. On the nights they prayed no cars were stolen. One local policeman described it as spooky – not my choice of words but a natural response to a supernatural answer to prayer. The police are not fools as has been intimated but know through experience that praying Christians change situations. They too need our prayers as they seek to maintain law and order in an increasingly fractured and lawless society.
Brilliant logic, if prayer seems to work it's evidence of God, if it doesn't you aren't a good enough Christian.
The Woodingdean tale could suggest, that as no cars were stolen on nights when a group of Christians got together to pray, that one or two of the members were stealing cars when not busy praying.

HappyFish says...
9:49am Thu 24 Nov 11

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Redeeming our Communities is having a significant impact which is why the Police and community groups are supporting intitatives. Prayer is an important part but so to is community involvment. Lets celebrate and support the desire to see positive change.

HappyFish says...
9:49am Thu 24 Nov 11

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Redeeming our Communities is having a significant impact which is why the Police and community groups are supporting intitatives. Prayer is an important part but so to is community involvment. Lets celebrate and support the desire to see positive change.

Hooitness says...
1:31pm Thu 24 Nov 11

HappyFish wrote:
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Redeeming our Communities is having a significant impact which is why the Police and community groups are supporting intitatives. Prayer is an important part but so to is community involvment. Lets celebrate and support the desire to see positive change.
And what exactly does the the church do for anyone?

My Grandfather of 92 has served the church his entire life, and has been left penniless and lonely because of it.

How many of the church have put their hands in their pockets to help him? None.

How many have even been to visit him now he cant make it to church? Not a single one.

What has the church done for him in return for 80+ years of service. NOTHING.

Who has helped him? We have. His family.

If the problems in society are going to be tackled, then we need actual action. Sitting around in a cold sterile environment with a vacant grin declaring your love for a mysterious deity is not a productive use of you time.

I just detest the old school Christian's who honestly think that prayer is an acceptable answer to a problem. Grow up.

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