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Moves to improve Brighton's 'welcome'

Roads around Brighton Station could be closed to cars under options being considered to improve the “welcome” to the city.

Residents have been quizzed on various ideas that Brighton and Hove City Council says could improve the area around the station.

The options include opening Queens Road to taxis and buses only and closing part of Trafalgar Street to improve “poor” pedestrian services.

Another option is installing parking for 800 bikes, although Southern Rail insists a decision on numbers has not been made.

Almost three-quarters of people said they supported rerouting private vehicles away from the southern side of the station.

Public consultation

About 1,200 people responded to the Brighton and Hove City Council consultation on the area.

Among the most controversial options could be the moving of the taxi rank from the front to the back of the station after more than a third of residents backed it.

The move is likely to be opposed by some taxi drivers who say it will cost passengers more if the rank is moved to the back where about 80 cabs could be accommodated, compared with the current 23 at the front.

Sources told The Argus the local authority is “looking very strongly” at putting taxis at the back with the possibility of a small rank at the front, and closing Queens Road to private vehicles.

Yesterday taxi drivers voiced their opposition saying passengers were unhappy during a six-month relocation last year.

Taxi rank

Andy Cheesman, of the Brighton and Hove Taxi Forum, said: “I can understand why they want us around the back and I can understand the huge amount of taxis we can get around the back.

“Traditionally it has always been at the front and I will be working with the council to get the best we can for the drivers.”

Other options include moving the buses from outside the station but this is believed to be unlikely after the majority of respondents said they wanted them to remain there.

The consultation results, published this week, found almost 80% of people walk to the station yet many pedestrians say services are dangerous and overcrowded.

Ian Davey, the council’s cabinet member for transport and the public realm, said: “There are a large number of people coming to and leaving the station on foot and we are looking to make it easier and more pleasant for them, as well as reducing congestion which will not only improve access but reduce air pollution.”

Brighton and Hove City Council chief executive John Barradell and then council-leader Mary Mears highlighted the need to improve the “gateway” into the city from the station in 2009.

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Comments(18)

chilliman says...
10:44am Thu 19 Jan 12

I hope there are plans to make more spaces for cars to drop off and pick up rail passengers at the rear of the station.

Several spaces were lost to taxis when they had to temporarily use the rear of the station, and these spaces have never been reinstated for car use. Together with the quantity of tradesmens' vans (with permits) in the 40 minute waiting area it's often impossible to stop when having to wait for a passenger to arrive.

Because people haven't got a legal space to wait they use the bus stop and any free bit of road they can find so making the congestion worse.

A station such as Brighton with a large commuter and tourist use is going to have need of waiting areas for cars as well as taxis.

biker brighton says...
10:58am Thu 19 Jan 12

please please get the taxis round the back every day i catch a bus and always have to wait about 5 min . they constantly blocking the road . and several times if they do move other taxies will jump the red lights to get to the station . two weeks ago there was a police officer there and i asked if he was going to do anything . the reply was well there taxies and walked off

banargustrolls says...
11:01am Thu 19 Jan 12

I think it's fine as it is apart from the constant taxi beeping out the front which is ridiculous, and they must make room for public pick-up/drop-offs out the back. If they have someone monitor and report on the taxi situation regularly it should be fine.

Dirk Gently says...
11:05am Thu 19 Jan 12

Given that the car park is fully automated, why can't they offer the free 40 minute waiting option in there as well? I accidentally drove into the car park a while ago, not knowing the system, and was surprised to be charged for the minimum 2 hour stay given that I was only there for 5 minutes.

Having two taxi ranks in different locations is a crazy idea - neither pedestrians nor drivers will know where to go, and it would be frustrating to walk to the back only to find no taxis there and have to walk to the front again. But the current system is grossly inefficient, as there are often both taxis and pedestrians queuing. It doesn't help that the taxis have to cross each other at the entrance.

censored says...
11:29am Thu 19 Jan 12

Clearly the regeneration of the area was designed to have the main taxi entrance to the station at the back. Simply following through with this would make things much, much better

salty_pete says...
12:21pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Bonkers, totally bonkers. By closing Queens Road to private vehicles, access to North Road is cut off which is a valuable East - West route across the city. When either New England Hill or the sea front is jammed or unusable (a significant number of times a year) the only way East to West is via North Road. This bonkers idea will completely grid lock the city.

inadaptado says...
12:22pm Thu 19 Jan 12

They definitely need to improve pedestrian access to the station. Sidewalks are too narrow for the amount of people they get, and traffic lights give very little time to cross the street.

salty_pete says...
12:43pm Thu 19 Jan 12

I wasn't aware that a consultation was taking place. No doubt only households close to the station were canvassed. The BHCC web site says they recieved about 1200 responses which is less than 1% of the population. So when the council starts spouting satistics please all remember this is from less than 1% of the population. It makes Union voting systems seem exemplary. But as with all consultations (especially where traffic alterations are concerned) the council is under no obligation to take a blind bit of notice, it is just a box that needs to be ticked. Oh, and it looks like Surrey Street will be two way so access to North Road will remain.

Phani Tikkala says...
1:16pm Thu 19 Jan 12

salty_pete wrote:
Bonkers, totally bonkers. By closing Queens Road to private vehicles, access to North Road is cut off which is a valuable East - West route across the city. When either New England Hill or the sea front is jammed or unusable (a significant number of times a year) the only way East to West is via North Road. This bonkers idea will completely grid lock the city.
Hear hear

Falstaff says...
2:13pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Phani Tikkala wrote:
salty_pete wrote:
Bonkers, totally bonkers. By closing Queens Road to private vehicles, access to North Road is cut off which is a valuable East - West route across the city. When either New England Hill or the sea front is jammed or unusable (a significant number of times a year) the only way East to West is via North Road. This bonkers idea will completely grid lock the city.
Hear hear
Me too. Queen's Road is the only east-west route available. Closing it will mean having to drive a very long way around, increasing journey times and pollution.

localboy78 says...
2:30pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Can we also have a sign at the stations that says 'Welcome to Brighton & Hove' instead of the current 'Welcome to Brighton'? After all, if we are welcoming people to the 'city' then it should be referred to as 'Brighton & Hove'. Brighton is just one of the constituent towns.

OP8 says...
2:34pm Thu 19 Jan 12

I hope the taxi drivers get moved round the back, am fed up of having to dive to safety when crossing under a green man because yet another impatient taxi driver has jumped the red lights. At least install cameras on the lights and fine the idiots

OP8 says...
2:53pm Thu 19 Jan 12

And the access would be greatly improved if a) all the bikes on the railings outside the gym were removed b) the railings were removed and c) the gym weren't allowed to have three huge pavement signs that block over half the width of that stretch of pavement

A V Lowe says...
3:11pm Thu 19 Jan 12

The near immediate success of the Haywards Heath secure cycle parking - well subscribed at £120/year and ironically in a former car valet service building should strengthen the case for for cycle parking at Brighton to be treated as an indication of demand for a service, for which there are market conditions (price, supply, quality) rether than a problem, and management by confrontation (bans and fines) can be replaced by product promotion.

Taxi-wise the wasted resource which the original station provided for taxis (under Platform 7-8) and the remaining parts of a former station just down hill from the main site might bear some consideration if this project is serious about investment and delivery.

Dispersal of a large volume of rail passengers is best achieved by getting most clear on foot from the highest density areas - with bags bikes etc being walked, and through transfer arrangements that cascade from this.

Taxi driver abuse is a major issue for many busy stations. The entire street is blocked at Glasgow Queen Street with 15-20 cabs such that you cannot get through with a pram, for a rank that should only have 5 cabs present. The detail is tackled at Central, by having a holding area with CCTV monitor to keep waiting cabs clear until space is available.

hellsie says...
4:43pm Thu 19 Jan 12

salty_pete wrote:
Bonkers, totally bonkers. By closing Queens Road to private vehicles, access to North Road is cut off which is a valuable East - West route across the city. When either New England Hill or the sea front is jammed or unusable (a significant number of times a year) the only way East to West is via North Road. This bonkers idea will completely grid lock the city.
Completely agree. Also, the route via Old Shoreham Road to New England Hill is about to get much more congested with the introduction of the new cycling lanes, which won't help if this proposal also goes through.

I also was unaware that a consultation was taking place - I would have participated if I had been aware.

Maxwell's Ghost says...
11:29pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Brighton, the only place in the world where the back entrance is deemed normal.
Also the only station in a city in the UK without a sit down bar or cafe.

frida_3 says...
12:49am Fri 20 Jan 12

At last! Brighton council realise there is a big traffic problem on the approach to the station. Sometimes when visiting London, it can take over 10 min's to reach the station from the Clock Tower along the small stretch up the Queens Road. Total grid lock. Most buses have bus lanes and priority on major roads in Cities, not Brighton. Buses yes, everything else, no!. Better still Why not knock down the buildings and widen the Left side of the Queens road,? that'll help deal with the eyesores (60's buildings) on the approach.

gwc42 says...
12:41pm Fri 20 Jan 12

access for pedestrians could be vastly improved simply by having zebra crossings instead of the pelican ones

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