Bus drivers told to cut 'babe' greeting

Bus drivers have been ticked off for calling female passengers ‘babe’.

A warning on a bulletin board for Brighton and Hove Buses told drivers that some customers might also take offence if they were called ‘love’ or ‘darling’.

The rap on the knuckles came after a complaint from an irate woman who said the word babe was “demeaning”.

One bus driver, who did not wish to be named, said: “It’s just the height of political correctness. The drivers are the best judge of how to speak to customers.

“People in Brighton don’t want their bus drivers to be robots. The company are just covering their own backs.

“But you’ll always get some people that just want to complain about everything.”

“People in Brighton don’t want their bus drivers to be robots."

Brighton and Hove Bus and Coach Company managing director Roger French said: “We ask our staff to be friendly but professional, but a lady complained to us that she thought the language used by one driver was demeaning to her.

“But I don’t think incidents like this are very common. We try and take a lot of customer feedback so we thought we’d pass this on. The drivers will understand and take it in good spirit."

But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver.

“We’ll be even friendlier because our drivers won’t be saying anything that could cause offence.

“Being personable and good-humoured is a big part of working on the buses.”

The message on the bulletin board headed ‘Speaking to Customers’ said: “Please can drivers be aware that some of our customers may take offence at having terms such as ‘love’, ‘darling’ and ‘babe’ directed towards them.

“This can be seen by some as being a sexist comment, as a recent complaint has highlighted.”

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6:21pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Hove Actually says...

Of course, but that might be because I am a man............
Of course, but that might be because I am a man............ Hove Actually

6:58pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Theminnie says...

Totally agree, find it offensive.
Totally agree, find it offensive. Theminnie

7:02pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Hotbeans says...

She must have been up on blocks.
She must have been up on blocks. Hotbeans

7:03pm Mon 30 Jan 12

ICantThinkOfAName says...

Does this mean they can't address a male passenger as "mate".

I hate being called "sir'" in case that's the way the speaker thinks that is how "cur"
is pronounced.
Does this mean they can't address a male passenger as "mate". I hate being called "sir'" in case that's the way the speaker thinks that is how "cur" is pronounced. ICantThinkOfAName

7:06pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Isaac Rinkfern says...

As a bloke, should I have been offended when a female bus driver calls me "babe", "love" or "darlin'"?
I think the problem may be "classism" and not "sexism", maybe the drivers could be made to wear tuxedos and ballgowns, and made to address us as "good sir" and "m'lady".
As a bloke, should I have been offended when a female bus driver calls me "babe", "love" or "darlin'"? I think the problem may be "classism" and not "sexism", maybe the drivers could be made to wear tuxedos and ballgowns, and made to address us as "good sir" and "m'lady". Isaac Rinkfern

7:11pm Mon 30 Jan 12

paul76 says...

Maybe if they were robots they would drive the buses in a safe manor. And they are not the friendliest bunch. Unlike the stagecoach drivers who will give you the time of day, and don't feel the need to run red lights etc.
Maybe if they were robots they would drive the buses in a safe manor. And they are not the friendliest bunch. Unlike the stagecoach drivers who will give you the time of day, and don't feel the need to run red lights etc. paul76

7:22pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Sean Jenkins says...

"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver"

Good one. Although maybe they should be directed towards use of the indicator and mirror, and then move on to more advanced things such as 'talking'.
"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver" Good one. Although maybe they should be directed towards use of the indicator and mirror, and then move on to more advanced things such as 'talking'. Sean Jenkins

8:01pm Mon 30 Jan 12

bigfella777 says...

None of them ever call me babe.
None of them ever call me babe. bigfella777

8:31pm Mon 30 Jan 12

misskkat says...

it's rare enough that i even get a grunt of acknowledgement, half the time they don't even check my ticket!
it's rare enough that i even get a grunt of acknowledgement, half the time they don't even check my ticket! misskkat

8:39pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Gelatine magic says...

I remember the fad of steam powered buses in the nineties. The drivers were all forced to wear victorian costumes meant for children which added to their discomfort. They would always rise and say "salutations siiiiiiir!" whilst their stovepipe hats rose several inches above their heads and trembled with an eerie whistling sound.
I remember the fad of steam powered buses in the nineties. The drivers were all forced to wear victorian costumes meant for children which added to their discomfort. They would always rise and say "salutations siiiiiiir!" whilst their stovepipe hats rose several inches above their heads and trembled with an eerie whistling sound. Gelatine magic

9:36pm Mon 30 Jan 12

sdhgfhfuyt says...

while i am usually vociferous in my hatred of the senior management, 90% of the bus drivers are decent men and women, and i certainly don't mind when either call me that
while i am usually vociferous in my hatred of the senior management, 90% of the bus drivers are decent men and women, and i certainly don't mind when either call me that sdhgfhfuyt

9:46pm Mon 30 Jan 12

AmboGuy says...

Theminnie wrote:
Totally agree, find it offensive.
Calm down darlin'.
[quote][p][bold]Theminnie[/bold] wrote: Totally agree, find it offensive.[/p][/quote]Calm down darlin'. AmboGuy

10:05pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Evasivo says...

Just another report of Brighton & Hove's atrocious bus drivers. Literally 70% of these drivers can drive but nothing else.

Their manner, courtesy and customer service is absolutely shocking!

They need to be trained properly to deal with the public & not just how to drive a bus.
Just another report of Brighton & Hove's atrocious bus drivers. Literally 70% of these drivers can drive but nothing else. Their manner, courtesy and customer service is absolutely shocking! They need to be trained properly to deal with the public & not just how to drive a bus. Evasivo

11:43pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Lamia2 says...

I'm not at all offended to be called 'babe' or 'love' etc - but as I'm a bit deaf could I request that our lovely bus drivers make sure that they speak up, so I don't miss it? Ta!
I'm not at all offended to be called 'babe' or 'love' etc - but as I'm a bit deaf [that's deaf, not old] could I request that our lovely bus drivers make sure that they speak up, so I don't miss it? Ta! Lamia2

12:25am Tue 31 Jan 12

the taffster says...

whatever next.its political correctness gone mad.i frequently call women babe,including my mrs.by the way have you seen the film babe?
whatever next.its political correctness gone mad.i frequently call women babe,including my mrs.by the way have you seen the film babe? the taffster

6:37am Tue 31 Jan 12

Cabin fever says...

Why would you be offended about being called babe? It's a compliment, isn't it?
Why would you be offended about being called babe? It's a compliment, isn't it? Cabin fever

8:43am Tue 31 Jan 12

Pitviper says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Blimey. Have you seen the people who use buses? They should be pleased to be called babe.....unless they think the driver is taking the pi** and the babe they are referring to is that Disney pig.
HA HA HA HA you couldn't be more right!!!
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Blimey. Have you seen the people who use buses? They should be pleased to be called babe.....unless they think the driver is taking the pi** and the babe they are referring to is that Disney pig.[/p][/quote]HA HA HA HA you couldn't be more right!!! Pitviper

8:45am Tue 31 Jan 12

Pitviper says...

bigfella777 wrote:
None of them ever call me babe.
aw babe maybe one day your prince will come and call you babe!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: None of them ever call me babe.[/p][/quote]aw babe maybe one day your prince will come and call you babe! Pitviper

8:46am Tue 31 Jan 12

alanbarnett says...

My wife and I live in Spain and recently visited Shoreham where we found the bus service good but expensive, and the drivers helpful and courteous. No complaints from us.
My wife and I live in Spain and recently visited Shoreham where we found the bus service good but expensive, and the drivers helpful and courteous. No complaints from us. alanbarnett

9:02am Tue 31 Jan 12

St Peters says...

Theminnie wrote:
Totally agree, find it offensive.
Sorry to hear that love.
[quote][p][bold]Theminnie[/bold] wrote: Totally agree, find it offensive.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that love. St Peters

9:27am Tue 31 Jan 12

mrhappystudent says...

As a man im often upset when not acknowledged with a "babe" or "sweetheart"...I thought we lived in a progressive city?
As a man im often upset when not acknowledged with a "babe" or "sweetheart"...I thought we lived in a progressive city? mrhappystudent

10:39am Tue 31 Jan 12

moronslayer says...

These chauvinst (Disney) pigs. Don't they realise that many of the ladies in Brighton prefer the term 'handsome'?

These bus drivers with their throbbing gear sticks, aggresively wiggling their indicators whilst constantly looking at themselves in those rear-view mirrors. Using such terms of endearment to address ladies to whom they are not even related.

I recall that one of these beasts called my very cute child 'very cute'. what an outrage! I would have called the council to complain but I think they've now got caller ID and don't always answer my daily phone call anymore.
These chauvinst (Disney) pigs. Don't they realise that many of the ladies in Brighton prefer the term 'handsome'? These bus drivers with their throbbing gear sticks, aggresively wiggling their indicators whilst constantly looking at themselves in those rear-view mirrors. Using such terms of endearment to address ladies to whom they are not even related. I recall that one of these beasts called my very cute child 'very cute'. what an outrage! I would have called the council to complain but I think they've now got caller ID and don't always answer my daily phone call anymore. moronslayer

11:16am Tue 31 Jan 12

Pork William says...

With 15000 Brighton children living in poverty, high rates of homelessness and the greatest number of deaths from drugs in the UK, it's always good to see the Greens dealing with stuff that really matters...
With 15000 Brighton children living in poverty, high rates of homelessness and the greatest number of deaths from drugs in the UK, it's always good to see the Greens dealing with stuff that really matters... Pork William

11:19am Tue 31 Jan 12

Pork William says...

BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive
BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive Pork William

12:36pm Tue 31 Jan 12

remluf says...

If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south!
If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south! remluf

12:53pm Tue 31 Jan 12

sandalman says...

Babes wear leggings and seem to eat too much and have mobiles glued to their ears!!
Babes wear leggings and seem to eat too much and have mobiles glued to their ears!! sandalman

1:07pm Tue 31 Jan 12

J Noble Daggett says...

Having lived in Brighton for many years I find it incomprehensible that the term 'Babe' by its very definition could be used on all but the top 3% of women living here.
I think it just shows the appalling aspirations and poor standards that these drivers set for themselves. Although if they used the term that would truly describe 97% of the women who use the buses .. I believe they might be even more offended.
Last bus to Whitehawk anyone?
Having lived in Brighton for many years I find it incomprehensible that the term 'Babe' by its very definition could be used on all but the top 3% of women living here. I think it just shows the appalling aspirations and poor standards that these drivers set for themselves. Although if they used the term that would truly describe 97% of the women who use the buses .. I believe they might be even more offended. Last bus to Whitehawk anyone? J Noble Daggett

1:21pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Bubs says...

I quite often get called "Sir" even though I'm a woman. Babe would be an improvement.
I quite often get called "Sir" even though I'm a woman. Babe would be an improvement. Bubs

1:27pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Number Six says...

remluf wrote:
If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south!
Is there a north of Watford?

Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue
[quote][p][bold]remluf[/bold] wrote: If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south![/p][/quote]Is there a north of Watford? Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue Number Six

1:50pm Tue 31 Jan 12

CharlotteP says...

Pork William wrote:
BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive
ah good old Kitcat - how kind of him to speak on behalf of all women. Speaking (as a woman) I dont find it offensive at all - do it all you want Brighton bus drivers
[quote][p][bold]Pork William[/bold] wrote: BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive[/p][/quote]ah good old Kitcat - how kind of him to speak on behalf of all women. Speaking (as a woman) I dont find it offensive at all - do it all you want Brighton bus drivers CharlotteP

1:51pm Tue 31 Jan 12

OP8 says...

Number Six wrote:
remluf wrote:
If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south!
Is there a north of Watford?

Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue
"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver."

And when can we expect the start?
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]remluf[/bold] wrote: If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south![/p][/quote]Is there a north of Watford? Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue[/p][/quote]"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver." And when can we expect the start? OP8

1:59pm Tue 31 Jan 12

ClarkeyCat says...

i'd be happier if they started giving change from a tenner without kicking up a fuss
i'd be happier if they started giving change from a tenner without kicking up a fuss ClarkeyCat

2:26pm Tue 31 Jan 12

PorkBoat says...

Maybe we should all start addressing each other as "Comrade" or "Citizen" so as not to cause offence, and also to get a bit of practice in for the near future.
Maybe we should all start addressing each other as "Comrade" or "Citizen" so as not to cause offence, and also to get a bit of practice in for the near future. PorkBoat

2:57pm Tue 31 Jan 12

dawnie112 says...

Blimey all this fuss over one stuffy bus traveller!!! Perhaps the lady in question should get herself a chauffeur who can call her madam!!
What a knee jerk reaction from Roger French - political correctness gone mad. He should have just given her a free bus ticket and an apology - or told her to get a life!!!!
Blimey all this fuss over one stuffy bus traveller!!! Perhaps the lady in question should get herself a chauffeur who can call her madam!! What a knee jerk reaction from Roger French - political correctness gone mad. He should have just given her a free bus ticket and an apology - or told her to get a life!!!! dawnie112

3:12pm Tue 31 Jan 12

mrhappystudent says...

I personally like it when people call me babe, sugar, sexy, gorgeous, darling, fantastic lover, future husband, massive junk or any other endearing term. In fact i love it...I just like human contact. Does anyone want to hang out today?
I personally like it when people call me babe, sugar, sexy, gorgeous, darling, fantastic lover, future husband, massive junk or any other endearing term. In fact i love it...I just like human contact. Does anyone want to hang out today? mrhappystudent

4:29pm Tue 31 Jan 12

sng165 says...

All this over ONE complaint - get real - its an endearing term in today-speak.
Be flattered - You'd complain if all you got was a grunt, or no greeting at all!
What do you want a 1940's "good morning madam / sir, how can I assist you today?" that would delay the service, and generate more than ONE complaint.
Seems the driver cant do right for doing wrong!
Time management backed their staff!
All this over ONE complaint - get real - its an endearing term in today-speak. Be flattered - You'd complain if all you got was a grunt, or no greeting at all! What do you want a 1940's "good morning madam / sir, how can I assist you today?" that would delay the service, and generate more than ONE complaint. Seems the driver cant do right for doing wrong! Time management backed their staff! sng165

4:29pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Fight Back says...

Pork William wrote:
BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive
Kitcat should get off his tweeting device and start getting his Green council to listen to the voters.

Any woman, or indeed man, that finds those terms offensive clearly isn't quite all there. With all the problems in the world some silly bint decided to complain about the word "babe" ...... seriously !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Pork William[/bold] wrote: BTW, the reason that I mentioned the Greens is that Jason Kitcat stated in a tweet that he finds women being called 'babe' or 'love' to be offensive[/p][/quote]Kitcat should get off his tweeting device and start getting his Green council to listen to the voters. Any woman, or indeed man, that finds those terms offensive clearly isn't quite all there. With all the problems in the world some silly bint decided to complain about the word "babe" ...... seriously !!!! Fight Back

5:59pm Tue 31 Jan 12

davyboy says...

Evasivo wrote:
Just another report of Brighton & Hove's atrocious bus drivers. Literally 70% of these drivers can drive but nothing else.

Their manner, courtesy and customer service is absolutely shocking!

They need to be trained properly to deal with the public & not just how to drive a bus.
i suggest you try the company's training scheme, as customer service is pushed to the top of the agenda. however, i would agree that some are rude, to the point of being officious in some cases. i isn't difficult to be nice, but it works both ways. how about passengers being polite too? as a driver myself, my wife thinks it is being 'over-friendly' to call females 'love', 'darling', or 'babe'.!!! greeting people with a smile and good manner is usually sufficient, oh, and saying thank you when passengers leave too.
[quote][p][bold]Evasivo[/bold] wrote: Just another report of Brighton & Hove's atrocious bus drivers. Literally 70% of these drivers can drive but nothing else. Their manner, courtesy and customer service is absolutely shocking! They need to be trained properly to deal with the public & not just how to drive a bus.[/p][/quote]i suggest you try the company's training scheme, as customer service is pushed to the top of the agenda. however, i would agree that some are rude, to the point of being officious in some cases. i isn't difficult to be nice, but it works both ways. how about passengers being polite too? as a driver myself, my wife thinks it is being 'over-friendly' to call females 'love', 'darling', or 'babe'.!!! greeting people with a smile and good manner is usually sufficient, oh, and saying thank you when passengers leave too. davyboy

9:31pm Tue 31 Jan 12

plantwoman says...

Have people got nothing better to do than complain about something so trivial! If this is the only thing you have to moan about, you should count yourself very lucky!
Have people got nothing better to do than complain about something so trivial! If this is the only thing you have to moan about, you should count yourself very lucky! plantwoman

10:23pm Tue 31 Jan 12

davyboy says...

ray ellerton wrote:
as my previous comment somehow hasn't appeared i will repeat.. As Richard Littlejohn would say, the Rubber Jonny Police are sticking their po faced noses in AGAIN.

( perhaps i'm not allowed to mention Mr Littlejohn?)
like it!!
[quote][p][bold]ray ellerton[/bold] wrote: as my previous comment somehow hasn't appeared i will repeat.. As Richard Littlejohn would say, the Rubber Jonny Police are sticking their po faced noses in AGAIN. ( perhaps i'm not allowed to mention Mr Littlejohn?)[/p][/quote]like it!! davyboy

8:26am Wed 1 Feb 12

J Noble Daggett says...

Number Six wrote:
remluf wrote:
If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south!
Is there a north of Watford?

Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue
I would get those lumps seen too. It sounds like it is Benign but you can never tell Matey.
[quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]remluf[/bold] wrote: If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south![/p][/quote]Is there a north of Watford? Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue[/p][/quote]I would get those lumps seen too. It sounds like it is Benign but you can never tell Matey. J Noble Daggett

9:11am Wed 1 Feb 12

London Stan says...

You voted these numpties in. Gaga, not Green. Makes Brighton look third world.
You voted these numpties in. Gaga, not Green. Makes Brighton look third world. London Stan

10:46am Wed 1 Feb 12

ray ellerton says...

Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again?
Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again? ray ellerton

10:57am Wed 1 Feb 12

Sarah Booker says...

ray ellerton wrote:
Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again?
Complaints about distasteful turn of phrase. Nothing to do with Richard Littlejohn.
[quote][p][bold]ray ellerton[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again?[/p][/quote]Complaints about distasteful turn of phrase. Nothing to do with Richard Littlejohn. Sarah Booker

11:48am Wed 1 Feb 12

raymondo999 says...

A significant minority of bus drivers drive too fast and rush off to prevent people boarding. Yesterday a driver refused to open the doors when the bus was at the stop and i was knocking on the door.
A significant minority of bus drivers drive too fast and rush off to prevent people boarding. Yesterday a driver refused to open the doors when the bus was at the stop and i was knocking on the door. raymondo999

1:01pm Wed 1 Feb 12

bigfella777 says...

raymondo999 wrote:
A significant minority of bus drivers drive too fast and rush off to prevent people boarding. Yesterday a driver refused to open the doors when the bus was at the stop and i was knocking on the door.
Ha Ha Ha maybe you're not a babe.
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: A significant minority of bus drivers drive too fast and rush off to prevent people boarding. Yesterday a driver refused to open the doors when the bus was at the stop and i was knocking on the door.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha maybe you're not a babe. bigfella777

2:00pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Barquentine says...

Myself and a couple of other passengers had to hurl ourselves in front of a bus the other day to get it to stop and pick us up. Maybe the driver might have noticed us if he hadn't been wearing Terminator sunglasses - on a cloudy day...
Myself and a couple of other passengers had to hurl ourselves in front of a bus the other day to get it to stop and pick us up. Maybe the driver might have noticed us if he hadn't been wearing Terminator sunglasses - on a cloudy day... Barquentine

2:22pm Wed 1 Feb 12

diriky says...

there is yet again a very good possibility of sensible adult debate being ruined by childish comments! I can see both sides of the debate ,
1=I can see why some would complain at the use of babe love and darling!
but that would be to do with being to "PC" in my opinion as a lad I used to get called love by the old "Dears" (as my mum called them) all this pc stuff is getting ridiculous why not get back to being decent human beings and take words in the manner they are meant ! not as something we want them to mean!!
there is yet again a very good possibility of sensible adult debate being ruined by childish comments! I can see both sides of the debate , 1=I can see why some would complain at the use of babe love and darling! but that would be to do with being to "PC" in my opinion as a lad I used to get called love by the old "Dears" (as my mum called them) all this pc stuff is getting ridiculous why not get back to being decent human beings and take words in the manner they are meant ! not as something we want them to mean!! diriky

2:58pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Le Premier Cru says...

Good point, Diriky.
My guess is the same could be said for a lot of the allegedly racist comments that have filled so many sports column inches recently.
Good point, Diriky. My guess is the same could be said for a lot of the allegedly racist comments that have filled so many sports column inches recently. Le Premier Cru

4:23pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Cash Cow says...

I can't stand being called "Dude" and girls being called "Guys". We have a wonderful language and culture, so why should we aspire to be Americans just because we watch too much rubbish TV.
I can't stand being called "Dude" and girls being called "Guys". We have a wonderful language and culture, so why should we aspire to be Americans just because we watch too much rubbish TV. Cash Cow

4:45pm Wed 1 Feb 12

ray ellerton says...

Sarah Booker wrote:
ray ellerton wrote:
Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again?
Complaints about distasteful turn of phrase. Nothing to do with Richard Littlejohn.
I have re-read the comment and cannot see one word which would cause offense...except maybe to the PC brigade which Mr Littlejohn highlights in his illuminating and very humourous take on society in his books. Are you one of those 'Guardianistas' as he describes them Sarah? If my views do not fall in line with others, does that mean they are not valid? we are still, just about...a democracy
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ray ellerton[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the comments moderator who care to tell me what was offensive or slanderous about my comment ( in Davyboy's comment above) as it has been removed again?[/p][/quote]Complaints about distasteful turn of phrase. Nothing to do with Richard Littlejohn.[/p][/quote]I have re-read the comment and cannot see one word which would cause offense...except maybe to the PC brigade which Mr Littlejohn highlights in his illuminating and very humourous take on society in his books. Are you one of those 'Guardianistas' as he describes them Sarah? If my views do not fall in line with others, does that mean they are not valid? we are still, just about...a democracy ray ellerton

5:00pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Sarah Booker says...

Every complaint received is carefully considered. A number of people took offence and therefore the comment was removed.
Every complaint received is carefully considered. A number of people took offence and therefore the comment was removed. Sarah Booker

5:08pm Wed 1 Feb 12

ray ellerton says...

Sarah Booker wrote:
Every complaint received is carefully considered. A number of people took offence and therefore the comment was removed.
Ahh yes...your reply vindicates the last comment that i made above. Thank you :-)
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker[/bold] wrote: Every complaint received is carefully considered. A number of people took offence and therefore the comment was removed.[/p][/quote]Ahh yes...your reply vindicates the last comment that i made above. Thank you :-) ray ellerton

6:09pm Wed 1 Feb 12

Cliff Huxtable says...

Must have been her time of the month...
Must have been her time of the month... Cliff Huxtable

6:10pm Wed 1 Feb 12

the taffster says...

i think the smell of stale flatulence on buses is more of a concern than the above report.you could cut the air with a knife on the 700 sometimes.security word:twitching brown eye
i think the smell of stale flatulence on buses is more of a concern than the above report.you could cut the air with a knife on the 700 sometimes.security word:twitching brown eye the taffster

6:56pm Wed 1 Feb 12

sussexguy says...

Well, they did not print the word but it is a five letter one beginning with "b".
Well, they did not print the word but it is a five letter one beginning with "b". sussexguy

12:27am Thu 2 Feb 12

ghost bus driver says...

OP8 wrote:
Number Six wrote:
remluf wrote:
If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south!
Is there a north of Watford?

Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue
"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver."

And when can we expect the start?
Next Tuesday at 12:29 pm
[quote][p][bold]OP8[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Number Six[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]remluf[/bold] wrote: If you go north of Watford and complain about being called 'Love', you would be laughed back to the south![/p][/quote]Is there a north of Watford? Why do people insist on calling my wife and I "you guys"? She isn't a guy. The lumps on her chest should give you a clue[/p][/quote]"But Mr French said the warning did not signal the end of the friendly bus driver." And when can we expect the start?[/p][/quote]Next Tuesday at 12:29 pm ghost bus driver

12:35am Thu 2 Feb 12

ghost bus driver says...

I wonder whether instances of this will increase, now that drivers become aware of it. It has become something of a joke in the canteens.
I wonder whether instances of this will increase, now that drivers become aware of it. It has become something of a joke in the canteens. ghost bus driver

12:45am Thu 2 Feb 12

SMJack says...

Of course people saying it must be her time of the month etc. aren't going to think a woman should be offended by it. There is a difference with being too PC and being a Neanderthal (talking about the comments not the bus drivers). It is possible to be a normal person in between the two, friendly with out being over personal. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
Of course people saying it must be her time of the month etc. aren't going to think a woman should be offended by it. There is a difference with being too PC and being a Neanderthal (talking about the comments not the bus drivers). It is possible to be a normal person in between the two, friendly with out being over personal. It doesn't have to be one way or the other. SMJack

9:34am Thu 2 Feb 12

ghost bus driver says...

SMJack wrote:
Of course people saying it must be her time of the month etc. aren't going to think a woman should be offended by it. There is a difference with being too PC and being a Neanderthal (talking about the comments not the bus drivers). It is possible to be a normal person in between the two, friendly with out being over personal. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
This is true. When someone gets on my bus I just say hello. Pretty safe that. We're not all ogres, remember.
[quote][p][bold]SMJack[/bold] wrote: Of course people saying it must be her time of the month etc. aren't going to think a woman should be offended by it. There is a difference with being too PC and being a Neanderthal (talking about the comments not the bus drivers). It is possible to be a normal person in between the two, friendly with out being over personal. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.[/p][/quote]This is true. When someone gets on my bus I just say hello. Pretty safe that. We're not all ogres, remember. ghost bus driver

1:40pm Thu 2 Feb 12

hawksterone says...

blimey,, what next ?? soon as you get into a taxi you get alright darling, so will that be on its way
blimey,, what next ?? soon as you get into a taxi you get alright darling, so will that be on its way hawksterone

4:36pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Levent says...

Theminnie wrote:
Totally agree, find it offensive.
You really do live in a bubble if you find that offensive. I find people on buses that smell of cigarettes B.O, play music, swear,
and are generally rude and annoying offensive. Not a bus driver, who has good intentions, but is judged by the p.c brigade as being demeaning. I'm sure if the intention was to offend, than he/she could find something other then "love" to say, in order to offend you. Don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]Theminnie[/bold] wrote: Totally agree, find it offensive.[/p][/quote]You really do live in a bubble if you find that offensive. I find people on buses that smell of cigarettes B.O, play music, swear, and are generally rude and annoying offensive. Not a bus driver, who has good intentions, but is judged by the p.c brigade as being demeaning. I'm sure if the intention was to offend, than he/she could find something other then "love" to say, in order to offend you. Don't you think? Levent

5:11pm Thu 2 Feb 12

sussexram40 says...

The woman who complained was probably a lesbian feminist type. Most normal women like being called babe and words like that. I have a friend who calls the women he meets princess and another who calls every woman he meets gorgeous, as in thanks gorgeous.Fact is they love it and thats why hes so successful with the female species.
The woman who complained was probably a lesbian feminist type. Most normal women like being called babe and words like that. I have a friend who calls the women he meets princess and another who calls every woman he meets gorgeous, as in thanks gorgeous.Fact is they love it and thats why hes so successful with the female species. sussexram40

6:54pm Thu 2 Feb 12

UpOntheHill says...

I live by the station and have to deal with bad manners...bad driving...bad attitude and clearly the big bus puffs up the Ego... i say that when bus drivers in london are more helpful that brighton's then there is a seriously something wrong. saying that there are exceptions and a bunch of lovely drivers however as time goes on there becomes less of them :-( Mr French.. invest your money in solid training and monitoring the service levels.
I live by the station and have to deal with bad manners...bad driving...bad attitude and clearly the big bus puffs up the Ego... i say that when bus drivers in london are more helpful that brighton's then there is a seriously something wrong. saying that there are exceptions and a bunch of lovely drivers however as time goes on there becomes less of them :-( Mr French.. invest your money in solid training and monitoring the service levels. UpOntheHill

8:19pm Thu 2 Feb 12

Kimboo says...

here here
here here Kimboo

10:25pm Thu 2 Feb 12

sussexram40 says...

Would have thought a woman would take it as a compliment to be called babe. Babes are glamour girls arent they
Would have thought a woman would take it as a compliment to be called babe. Babes are glamour girls arent they sussexram40

7:09am Fri 3 Feb 12

BURIRAM says...

I always call the bus driver Babe, we are lucky to have such fit drivers in there uniforms
I always call the bus driver Babe, we are lucky to have such fit drivers in there uniforms BURIRAM

10:34am Fri 3 Feb 12

johnboy1 says...

The lady in question's very reasonable response is in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2012/feb/01/dont-cal
l-me-babe-on-the-bus
?INTCMP=SRCH
The lady in question's very reasonable response is in the Guardian http://www.guardian. co.uk/commentisfree/ 2012/feb/01/dont-cal l-me-babe-on-the-bus ?INTCMP=SRCH johnboy1

3:40pm Fri 3 Feb 12

SpoookaaySpooon says...

Levent wrote:
Theminnie wrote:
Totally agree, find it offensive.
You really do live in a bubble if you find that offensive. I find people on buses that smell of cigarettes B.O, play music, swear,
and are generally rude and annoying offensive. Not a bus driver, who has good intentions, but is judged by the p.c brigade as being demeaning. I'm sure if the intention was to offend, than he/she could find something other then "love" to say, in order to offend you. Don't you think?
^ Exactly this.
[quote][p][bold]Levent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theminnie[/bold] wrote: Totally agree, find it offensive.[/p][/quote]You really do live in a bubble if you find that offensive. I find people on buses that smell of cigarettes B.O, play music, swear, and are generally rude and annoying offensive. Not a bus driver, who has good intentions, but is judged by the p.c brigade as being demeaning. I'm sure if the intention was to offend, than he/she could find something other then "love" to say, in order to offend you. Don't you think?[/p][/quote]^ Exactly this. SpoookaaySpooon

3:48pm Fri 3 Feb 12

clubrob6 says...

Hove Actually wrote:
Of course, but that might be because I am a man............
Im also a man darling.
[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote: Of course, but that might be because I am a man............[/p][/quote]Im also a man darling. clubrob6

8:55pm Sat 4 Feb 12

hubby says...

More PC rubbish.
More PC rubbish. hubby

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