Worthing students protest at teacher redundancy

Hundreds of students are currently protesting at school against two teacher redundancies.

Students from all year groups at Chatsmore Catholic High School in Goring Street, Worthing, are believed to be occupying the school tennis courts and playing field.

Pupils planned the demonstration after learning last week that popular teachers Jan Archer and Cora Gillies had taken voluntary redundancy following a consultation.

Headteacher Mike Madden said it had been an extremely difficult decision but the school’s hand was forced by drastic cuts to capital funding.

He said last week: “The harsh reality is budgets are much reduced. We have lost funding from a number of streams and had to make a number of difficult decisions.

“When I started teaching 30 years ago redundancy in school was unheard of. Now the reality in schools is much the same as any other business. Making all the money spread over is increasingly difficult. In the mid 90s there was money in education. That level of funding is drying up now. We have to manage it like everybody else.”

Comments(66)

Stoneham Park says...
12:13pm Mon 26 Mar 12

It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.

john5001 says...
12:22pm Mon 26 Mar 12

as above,

sausagefingers says...
12:27pm Mon 26 Mar 12

ditto.

"voluntary redundancy" also implies a nice big payout - perhaps they have had enough of the kids

s&k says...
12:32pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
The story says the teachers were popular so maybe the kids did have a genuine interest in their teachers welfare.

Olney7 says...
12:37pm Mon 26 Mar 12

In response to 'stoneham parks' comment, you shouldn't be accusing the pupils of such things, i am an ex pupil, and therefore i have been added to the facebook event "SAVE MISS GILLIES AND MISS ARCHER", there are comments from 100's declaring there love for miss gillies and how they want her saved, and these comments were put up even before there was any speak about a protest, so why don't you have a look at the group yourself before you go accusing the pupils of not caring about the teachers! http://www.facebook.
com/events/137167939
743617/1405057594098
35/?ref=notif&notif_
t=plan_mall_activity

ozoneii says...
12:38pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
please do some research before running your mouth online. the teachers were favarited by every pupil. the sun would be just a bonus!

tom servo says...
12:49pm Mon 26 Mar 12

ozoneii wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote: It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
please do some research before running your mouth online. the teachers were favarited by every pupil. the sun would be just a bonus!
Did you go to that school? I'm just wondering who taught you to spell?

george smith says...
12:50pm Mon 26 Mar 12

voluntary is when people go voluntary rather than compulsory

vaidilexx says...
1:14pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Actualy I am at chatsmore now and I am a pupil the students are very determined and it is a peaceful protest ee have a right to be heard thankyou very much.

dylan123456 says...
1:35pm Mon 26 Mar 12

In response to 'voluntary redundancy means nice big pay out'....it often means jump before you are pushed and we will give you slightly more cash, it is a tool used by many employers to save the hassle of going through the full redundancy process. So please dont presume these staff are going because they want to, and don't make offensive comments like they have had enough of the kids. These were well liked, committed teachers. These children are demonstrating to save teachers who have helped them, not only educationally, but emotionally. Both are Heads of House and therefore deal with any issues the kids may have. Some of these kid's parents may have suffered redundancy and these teachers may have helped them through any issues this may of brought, too many know the upset redundancy brings and they are just trying to show support. So please dont put down the teachers or the children, especially those of you know nothing of the situation. I truely hope it helps to save their jobs and if not, at least the both teachers will know what a good job they have done by the support they ave been shown by so many!

Aview123 says...
1:35pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I would just like to say unless you actually went to this school then you have no idea how much Miss Gillies and Miss Archer helped hundreds of students. Whether it be with bullying ,stress ,bereavement, Home problems or personal health issues. Miss Gillies was always there for any student at any time to be a teacher,a listener a shoulder to cry on and a friend.You may think that all teachers should be this but her knowledge of how to help and understand everyone's problems is incredible.She was and still is one of the most popular teachers i have every come across and the love for her is outstanding. You may think this is " just a day in the sun " for students but in reality this is a major event for everyone. Whether it was voluntary or not its the principle that a perfectly good , and needed teacher has been forced to resign. Everyone has the right to have an opinion on the matter but I believe you shouldn't jump the gun on the reasons behind this unless you yourself have worked or been taught by either teacher. The support for the students currently taking part in the protest is enormous and I proud to say that they students are finally standing up for something they believe so strongly in. The school will be at a great loss with out both Miss Gillies and Miss Archer and I hope they get the praise they deserve for serving the school for many many years and helping hundreds and hundreds of students deal with their own problems and teaching them fantastically. Thank you very much.

BigEnvo15 says...
1:38pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.

That's not unreasonable says...
1:46pm Mon 26 Mar 12

BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.

Aview123 says...
2:08pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Neither of the teachers were failing. It baffles me how you can state that when you have no grounds at all to back that . Yes the children on here are miss typing spelling words incorrectly but half the students here are currently on the field protesting so forgive them if their spelling isn't quite up to your standards.As for any one else , children will be children and how ever much you try and drum into them to spell correctly and use punctuation where appropriate they will always fall in to the slang trap. The text language. No amount of teaching from any school whether they be state or Private will ever cease to stop any child from spelling how they wish to. This does not define the standards of someones teaching abilities. Nor does it mean they are failing. Before you Lay in to the children again think before you type. They have opinions and views and right now they are doing something about it.

Stoneham Park says...
2:09pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Children should be seen, but not heard... Just kidding.

If kids want to 'protest', do it outside of valuable teaching and learning time where a lot of the world, does not have such opportunities.

Aview123 says...
2:09pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Neither of the teachers were failing. It baffles me how you can state that when you have no grounds at all to back that . Yes the children on here are miss typing spelling words incorrectly but half the students here are currently on the field protesting so forgive them if their spelling isn't quite up to your standards.As for any one else , children will be children and how ever much you try and drum into them to spell correctly and use punctuation where appropriate they will always fall in to the slang trap. The text language. No amount of teaching from any school whether they be state or Private will ever cease to stop any child from spelling how they wish to. This does not define the standards of someones teaching abilities. Nor does it mean they are failing. Before you Lay in to the children again think before you type. They have opinions and views and right now they are doing something about it.

Le Premier Cru says...
2:16pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Similar redundancies at Sussex University. All the management have to do is make the voluntary severance package marginally better than statutory redundancy, and staff would have to be mugs not to take it.
We coined the phrase 'compulsory voluntary redundancy'. (It doesn't guarantee a 'nice big payout' as predicted by sausagefingers above.)

dylan123456 says...
2:17pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Aview123 wrote:
Neither of the teachers were failing. It baffles me how you can state that when you have no grounds at all to back that . Yes the children on here are miss typing spelling words incorrectly but half the students here are currently on the field protesting so forgive them if their spelling isn't quite up to your standards.As for any one else , children will be children and how ever much you try and drum into them to spell correctly and use punctuation where appropriate they will always fall in to the slang trap. The text language. No amount of teaching from any school whether they be state or Private will ever cease to stop any child from spelling how they wish to. This does not define the standards of someones teaching abilities. Nor does it mean they are failing. Before you Lay in to the children again think before you type. They have opinions and views and right now they are doing something about it.
Well said, they are commenting using mobile phones. Why not focus on what they are saying rather than knock the grammar and spelling. Yet again the people commenting are doing so with no knowledge of the situation and those involved, a greater crime than a few words incorrectly spelt! As for schools failing, maybe lack of money maybe a more appropriate reason, and is that not what the kids are actually protesting about (redundancies due to lack of money)

That's not unreasonable says...
2:18pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Aview123 wrote:
Neither of the teachers were failing. It baffles me how you can state that when you have no grounds at all to back that . Yes the children on here are miss typing spelling words incorrectly but half the students here are currently on the field protesting so forgive them if their spelling isn't quite up to your standards.As for any one else , children will be children and how ever much you try and drum into them to spell correctly and use punctuation where appropriate they will always fall in to the slang trap. The text language. No amount of teaching from any school whether they be state or Private will ever cease to stop any child from spelling how they wish to. This does not define the standards of someones teaching abilities. Nor does it mean they are failing. Before you Lay in to the children again think before you type. They have opinions and views and right now they are doing something about it.
I rest my case!

Luke11 says...
2:24pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
This protest has been planned since last week and has been heavily supported by all students since the idea was conceived, so although the nice weather may have swayed a minority of students altogether it is absolutely ridiculous to suggest it is the major contributing factor!

Luke11 says...
2:32pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!

Stoneham Park says...
2:34pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?

pumba92 says...
2:36pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Just putting it out there, Miss Gillies made my school life ****.

Luke11 says...
2:41pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.

Luke11 says...
2:44pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.

That's not unreasonable says...
2:47pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Correct, and it is voluntary, so either they WANTED to go, or they HAD to go.. and took the financially beneficial route.

Stoneham Park says...
2:48pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Luke11 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.
Fair comment, however, it does help!

Fight Back says...
2:57pm Mon 26 Mar 12

george smith wrote:
voluntary is when people go voluntary rather than compulsory
Such a naive comment. "Voluntary" often means when you are being got rid of regardless but this is a better get out.

That's not unreasonable says...
3:06pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.
Fair comment, however, it does help!
'Aren't good this?'
Unbelievable.

Stoneham Park says...
3:09pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.
Fair comment, however, it does help!
'Aren't good this?'
Unbelievable.
I think it's good that people engage in constructive arguments & debates on this site however the the most annoying and unnecessary posts are the ones pointing out spelling mistakes.

dylan123456 says...
3:10pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote: I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go? Would you not agree?
I would not agree, it often the higher paid staff that have a long service record and higher salaries, that inept management see as being a way to save the most money. I have seen it many times, and businesses often suffer as a result of the short sighted approach!! And yet again dont judge these staff you have no knowledge of!!

Stoneham Park says...
3:13pm Mon 26 Mar 12

dylan123456 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote: I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go? Would you not agree?
I would not agree, it often the higher paid staff that have a long service record and higher salaries, that inept management see as being a way to save the most money. I have seen it many times, and businesses often suffer as a result of the short sighted approach!! And yet again dont judge these staff you have no knowledge of!!
As I've said, I say in 'most cases'.

ozoneii says...
3:20pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!

ozoneii says...
3:20pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!

EDL Supporter says...
3:20pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go?
Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.
Fair comment, however, it does help!
'Aren't good this?'
Unbelievable.
Ha yes mate, clearly these kids were never taught the 3 Rs!!!!!!

dylan123456 says...
3:28pm Mon 26 Mar 12

EDL Supporter wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote:
Luke11 wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote: I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
Unfortunately for you neither of the teachers concerned are responsible for the spelling and grammar of students at the school! If you read through all the comments on here you will hopefully understand that these two teachers are not valued for being able to teach students to spell! They are valued above all for the unending support they have always offered to students underpinning the ethos and values of the school, and are certainly not considered as failing teachers!
Well when a business 'lays-off' staff, in most cases, the weakest/unnecessary links would go? Would you not agree?
Just to clarify, I am definitely not saying they can't teach students to spell and aren't good this! If you had a school full of teachers who's only aim was to improve spelling and grammar then in my opinion it would not be a very good school.
Fair comment, however, it does help!
'Aren't good this?' Unbelievable.
Ha yes mate, clearly these kids were never taught the 3 Rs!!!!!!
Where as you were....
Recite
Ridiculous
Rubbish

I say again listen to what they are saying, dont focus on a few typos!!

Stoneham Park says...
3:33pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Anyway, regardless of typos, wrongs or rights or wrongs.
I bet the kids have got themselves a pretty decent tan by now!

clubrob6 says...
3:34pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
Well i think its good the kids are standing up for what they believe in pity adults dont have the bottle then maybe the poor,genuine sick,pensioners would not have to take the brunt of the cuts while the rich can carry on using loopholes to avoid tax.

Stoneham Park says...
3:36pm Mon 26 Mar 12

wrongs or rights**

SSparshott66 says...
3:39pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Stoneham Park wrote:
It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
Hi I am a student from chatsmore who did the protest and we did it because we love those 2 teachers and when it says they "voluntarily" went that's a lie because they told me they don't want to leave and don't have another job to go to so think about what's going to happen to them and when first went out there it was freezing cold and then about an hour later it was sunny.

Opinion212 says...
4:36pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I think it's very unfair that people are saying 'the children are doing it because it's a nice day'.
You most likely don't know the teachers and how much they've had helped these children. I was a pupil at chatsmore and so is my daughter now, and not only did Miss.Gillies help me when I was there (Miss.Archer wasn't there when I was) but both the teachers have helped my daughter massively. The children have clearly got a lot of love for these teachers, and that fact people are complaining about their grammar instead of the whole reason they actually protested well is ridiculous. The children were going to protest rigardless of the weather, as someone previously said the fact it was such a beautiful day is a bonus. It's wonderful how the children are showing so much live towards these two teachers, it clearly shows how much they are wanted at this school. Also no-one chooses to be made redundant, so saying that is pretty stupid as well, the head teacher clearly told them they were going to be made redundant and is saying they chose to is most likely to protect his image as head teacher.

Opinion212 says...
4:37pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I think it's very unfair that people are saying 'the children are doing it because it's a nice day'.
You most likely don't know the teachers and how much they've had helped these children. I was a pupil at chatsmore and so is my daughter now, and not only did Miss.Gillies help me when I was there (Miss.Archer wasn't there when I was) but both the teachers have helped my daughter massively. The children have clearly got a lot of love for these teachers, and that fact people are complaining about their grammar instead of the whole reason they actually protested well is ridiculous. The children were going to protest rigardless of the weather, as someone previously said the fact it was such a beautiful day is a bonus. It's wonderful how the children are showing so much live towards these two teachers, it clearly shows how much they are wanted at this school. Also no-one chooses to be made redundant, so saying that is pretty stupid as well, the head teacher clearly told them they were going to be made redundant and is saying they chose to is most likely to protect his image as head teacher.

That's not unreasonable says...
4:45pm Mon 26 Mar 12

'The children were going to protest rigardless'
I can see how much she helped you!

That's not unreasonable says...
4:54pm Mon 26 Mar 12

ozoneii wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!
Let us not even attempt to find humour in your spelling of the word 'mistakes' as you clearly cannot see that the word should be 'doesn't' NOT 'dosen't. You are also unaware that you do not start a sentence with a conjunction such as And. When beginning a new sentence, try to use a capital letter.
I am shocked that the level of literacy shown by all of Mrs Gillies supports.

Mrs Cooper says...
4:56pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Personally, as a parent of four Chatsmore students I am getting a bit sick and tired of ignorant people who know nothing about this making quite frankly pointless comments. It was not political or because the sun was out. These are teachers who have gained much support from their pupils due to their commitment to all areas of schooling. I am so sorry that all you perfectionists out there do not understand that some people may be so irate that they are typing quickly and missing letters or maybe they are dyslexic. Should we chastise pupils or parents or teachers for this disability ... I thought we had come out of the dinasaur age ! ... please be a little more considerate whilst commenting on this news and more importantly... get your facts straight and stop being such do gooders. This is a simple protest to show support and NOTHING else. !! oh and by the way it was organised for break time !! Oh and in case you were wondering all four of my children are sensible, resonsible 'A' grade students with a voice!!!

Mrs Cooper says...
4:57pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Oh and I forgot to mention that Miss Gillies does not teach English at the school to all you perfectionists who have no disabilities yourself.... Disgraceful ... you should be ashamed of yourselves are dyslexic not allowed to be heard !!!!

Opinion212 says...
5:00pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Mrs Cooper wrote:
Personally, as a parent of four Chatsmore students I am getting a bit sick and tired of ignorant people who know nothing about this making quite frankly pointless comments. It was not political or because the sun was out. These are teachers who have gained much support from their pupils due to their commitment to all areas of schooling. I am so sorry that all you perfectionists out there do not understand that some people may be so irate that they are typing quickly and missing letters or maybe they are dyslexic. Should we chastise pupils or parents or teachers for this disability ... I thought we had come out of the dinasaur age ! ... please be a little more considerate whilst commenting on this news and more importantly... get your facts straight and stop being such do gooders. This is a simple protest to show support and NOTHING else. !! oh and by the way it was organised for break time !! Oh and in case you were wondering all four of my children are sensible, resonsible 'A' grade students with a voice!!!
My point exactly.

tom servo says...
5:06pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Mrs Cooper wrote:
Personally, as a parent of four Chatsmore students I am getting a bit sick and tired of ignorant people who know nothing about this making quite frankly pointless comments. It was not political or because the sun was out. These are teachers who have gained much support from their pupils due to their commitment to all areas of schooling. I am so sorry that all you perfectionists out there do not understand that some people may be so irate that they are typing quickly and missing letters or maybe they are dyslexic. Should we chastise pupils or parents or teachers for this disability ... I thought we had come out of the dinasaur age ! ... please be a little more considerate whilst commenting on this news and more importantly... get your facts straight and stop being such do gooders. This is a simple protest to show support and NOTHING else. !! oh and by the way it was organised for break time !! Oh and in case you were wondering all four of my children are sensible, resonsible 'A' grade students with a voice!!!
What's a dinasaur? or even resonsible?

Are you dyslexic too?

tom servo says...
5:07pm Mon 26 Mar 12

No wonder the kids are growing up illiterate when the parents do little better.

ozoneii says...
5:12pm Mon 26 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
ozoneii wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!
Let us not even attempt to find humour in your spelling of the word 'mistakes' as you clearly cannot see that the word should be 'doesn't' NOT 'dosen't. You are also unaware that you do not start a sentence with a conjunction such as And. When beginning a new sentence, try to use a capital letter.
I am shocked that the level of literacy shown by all of Mrs Gillies supports.
I'm sorry but you are a keyboard warrior and need to get a life, Your lack of confidence in the real world leads you to the internet to express yourself. No one cares if there are spelling mistakes when reading online.

whitehartlane says...
5:16pm Mon 26 Mar 12

So good to see children take action when they disagree with something they care about.

redshoess says...
5:48pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Those of you who are calling them 'failing teachers' because of the spelling mistakes made by current pupils should educate yourselves. The teachers being made redundant aren't in the english department so therefore cannot be linked. I would also like to see you write a comment of such standard on a smart phone because it is very easy to make mistakes. I left the school last year and can safely say that i would do anything to go back to that school. The level of love and support shown by teachers is outstanding. Every morning, without fail, Miss Gillies would stop to say hello or ask how i was. This simple act often made my day. It showed that i mattered to her and that she was there to support me, such kindness is hard to find these days especially with busy teachers. The protest isn't just about 'a day in the sun' or 'time off work' as some of you have implied. It about saving teachers that mean so much to the school! They are an asset and the students see it. Those of you who don't know them will not understand the love students have for them. I'm sad to see them go because they mean so much to the school community.

thevoiceofthestudents says...
6:46pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I am a student at Chatsmore Chatholic High School, and I attended the protest today. As a school we believe the students voices should be heard. The protest was just to show we cared about the two most valuble teachers in the school, Miss Gillies and Miss Archer. We had a peaceful protest and were not just trying to get a day off as some of you believed. WE WILL BE HEARD AS A SCHOOL TO SAVE MISS GILLIES AND MISS ARCHER!!

Number Six says...
7:16pm Mon 26 Mar 12

I wonder what these committed teachers think about pupils taking a day out of their education in this manner. I would have thought that they would be out there telling them to go back to their studies.

Grammar and spelling does matter. They are the rules that govern how we communicate and understand each other. Frankly I don't bother with a lot of posts on here since I can't be bothered to try and work out the writer's point.

One more thing; why didn't I have these rights when I was at school?

robinson40 says...
7:29pm Mon 26 Mar 12

as a parent of the school also as a foster carer with both birth children and fostered children within the school I have found the whole experience upsetting for both the children and the staff members concerned. When i first found out about the redundancies I wrote to the Bishop, the LEA, the head and the PTA. I expressed that as a family we had every respect for both teachers concerned. We also expressed our concern to the fact that the head was employing new staff without consideration for the staff or childrens feelings. There is a concern for me that he has employed a lot of new staff obviously splitting the jobs that the two redundant teachers used to do for the students. This puts the question out there regarding the saving of money also does this stop constructive dismissal. The teachers were pushed in to the situation. This needs to be clear. The children are distressed and have done what the public/newspapers/tv have shown as an acceptable way to show you are upset about something. Recent news regarding wage cuts/pension issues have caused people to rise up and protest. How can the children be criticised for something that we as adults condone in every day life as acceptable? its beyond me. Yes I feel they were misguided in their actions and that as a parent we should be advising them that they need to write a letter to express their views. Petitions are fine but it doesn't give a personal view on the situation. Instead of discrediting the issue at hand why not ask the question "why are there so many children asking why and what can we do?" and showing that they care. Give them some respect yes I am sure there are a few idiots out there but not all of them are there for selfish reasons. thanks

JackieVerrall says...
8:22pm Mon 26 Mar 12

As a mother of one of the above Protesters ( sorry Matt! ) I can only applaud them. I hardly think losing one days schooling will be detrimental to their overall education - bearing in mind numerous Teacher Training Days and strikes. What difference does one more day make?
The students have taken it upon themselves to show their disappointment and we should be pleased our kids do not think of just themselves. As far as I know it was peaceful and there was no damage or bad behaviour. You could also say the school has taught and encouraged them to think of others! I believe the teachers did think about getting them inside, but how do you enforce this with 400 odd standing against you and frankly, for a few hours, what is the point?
It was harmless and it made their point known. Tomorrow is another day and another battle to fight. Well done pupils of Chatsmore School, you achieved your purpose.

Mrs Cooper says...
8:54pm Mon 26 Mar 12

tom servo wrote:
No wonder the kids are growing up illiterate when the parents do little better.
tom servo obviously did not read this posting very well !!

Bladesboy Returns says...
9:13pm Mon 26 Mar 12

Mrs Cooper wrote:
tom servo wrote:
No wonder the kids are growing up illiterate when the parents do little better.
tom servo obviously did not read this posting very well !!
Perhaps if you placed as much energy into generating income and spent a little less time sharing your views you wouldn't need to claim the benefits that you presently enjoy.

JoeBlow says...
10:32pm Mon 26 Mar 12

There are some rather ignorant people on this thread - and they aren't the kids or their parents.

Bladesboy Returns says...
7:01am Tue 27 Mar 12

JoeBlow wrote:
There are some rather ignorant people on this thread - and they aren't the kids or their parents.
Yes

And your post pretty much places you in first place in this respect

NickBrt says...
9:55am Tue 27 Mar 12

My mum told me too join the protest cos then we mite get in the paperz and then she mite get sum munny for more fags and booz, so there!

Gordonmuppet says...
8:38pm Tue 27 Mar 12

tom servo wrote:
ozoneii wrote:
Stoneham Park wrote: It would be great if all the kids had a genuine interest in the recently-axed teachers positions however on a nice day like this, they're making use of an easy excuse to stay out in the sun all day.
please do some research before running your mouth online. the teachers were favarited by every pupil. the sun would be just a bonus!
Did you go to that school? I'm just wondering who taught you to spell?
Good shot

wasgoingtobethegoldenbirdsnamesbutforgotthem says...
4:53pm Wed 28 Mar 12

pumba92 wrote:
Just putting it out there, Miss Gillies made my school life ****.
nonsense...she will surely be much mizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzed
...go do a bleep test....

All 9 of me says...
1:36pm Sat 31 Mar 12

That's not unreasonable wrote:
ozoneii wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote:
I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!
Let us not even attempt to find humour in your spelling of the word 'mistakes' as you clearly cannot see that the word should be 'doesn't' NOT 'dosen't. You are also unaware that you do not start a sentence with a conjunction such as And. When beginning a new sentence, try to use a capital letter.
I am shocked that the level of literacy shown by all of Mrs Gillies supports.
dosen't is spelt correctly ?

Number Six says...
2:11pm Sat 31 Mar 12

All 9 of me wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
ozoneii wrote:
That's not unreasonable wrote:
BigEnvo15 wrote: I am pupil at the school. These two teachers are two of the best teachers in the school. And would be a great loss to the school and its pupils. The pupils are doing a peaceful protest, which they have every right to do. Just cause we are not adults yet dosen't mean we can't be heard.
....Or even understood! If either of these teachers are responsible for your atrocious spelling and grammar then it is as well they are leaving. The standard of comments from pupils on here is indicative of why failing teachers must be removed.
There is not one word spelt wrong here, your ignorance blinds you from the real matter in hand. Stop running your mouth online. If you are reffering to "cause" thats an abbreviation of the word Because. please post something useful instead of trying to pick spelling mystakes in what kids write!!
Let us not even attempt to find humour in your spelling of the word 'mistakes' as you clearly cannot see that the word should be 'doesn't' NOT 'dosen't. You are also unaware that you do not start a sentence with a conjunction such as And. When beginning a new sentence, try to use a capital letter. I am shocked that the level of literacy shown by all of Mrs Gillies supports.
dosen't is spelt correctly ?
Just to put my tuppence worth in it's referring, not reffering.

BHArulz says...
12:17am Sun 1 Apr 12

Perhaps they could go to class and then protest on the weekend... This would certainly draw attention to your plight.

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