Smash EDO's "moral duty" to protest (From The Argus)

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  Bladesboy Returns wrote:
  

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  Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not wrote:
  

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  Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not wrote:
  Just got in from work - some people on this thread may not be familiar with this - and have spent 10 minutes rolling around laughing at the comments posted by zrfau and my close friend gaz scott...bright he's definitely not!
  
  So in summary before I close this thread, we have less than 0.001% of the population who are so stupid they can't grasp the value that is being created and maintained by this company and this same 0.001% won't listen to the sensible people.
  
  What is this all about?

  "So in summary before I close this thread"
  
  So you run this site do you? What an idiot.
  
  I don't generally agree with banning people from lists but I hope the Argus ban you again. You certainly should be.
  
  Aren't you embarrassed to be you Bladesboy? I would be.

  You have made a further 5 posts since attacking my valid and proportionate comments and each one provides an insight into your inner anger.
  
  How can't you see from all the people who are sharing reality with you that you hold ridiculous and fundamentally flawed views?
  
  Your inner anger needs addressing and not through a childish outburst in the streets of Brighton. Why not seek counselling support, if money is tight then let me know and I'll see if I can help out. Much better that, than ruining what should be a nice day of relaxation for thousands of good people.
  
  Before we move to close this thread, you have actively avoided responding to comments made in previous threads re the part you play in recycling, which I have suggested makes you culpable for lubricating the supply chain for EDO. Perhaps if you are not too angry you might provide your views on this? Can't wait to see your attempts at manipulating the truth to fit your 0.001 model. Laugh out loud!

  How do you fit in all your Argus list moderation with your busy life?
  
  Your post and opinions only seem to be based around the idea that our beliefs are flawed or misguided and that yours are right and proper.
  
  You never explain why this is so. You usually resort to childish tactics mostly because you are childish but also because you don't have the facility to do anything else.

  Just signed in and see you are up to your old tricks gazzer scott, 'bright I'm not'. Attack others comments, refuse to address the valid comments and concerns raised by others in response to yours etc.
  
  Please simply tell us your philosophy on recycling and how you manage the risk associated with funding the supply chain through your actions and mitigation.
  
  Look forward to hearing the same old, same old.

  Nice to see you using your real name again Bladesboy.
  
  Apart from the fact that my views on recycling are irrelevant I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are, as usual, talking in riddles and nonsense. If you phrased the question in English you might have more chance of a reply.

  Your name provides clues, as in Bright I'm Not!
  
  So for your benefit and for absolute clarity and in Janet and John primary school language, here we go.
  
  Hypothesis:-
  
  You recycle some of the materials you have either purchased, or been provided with.
  
  This material through the recycling process is recovered and then in turn is purchased / passed to manufacturers who in turn use/convert these materials into goods
  
  EDO may therefore receive and reuse materials that you have provided
  
  You are therefore potentially supporting EDO
  
  Questions
  
  Do you recycle your goods and if so, how do you ensure that the goods you recycle do not ultimately make their way into the EDO (or indeed other organisations allegedly involved in the supply of arms) manufacturing processes?
  
  Hopefully, even you can now grasp the question and maybe answer it!

  Thanks for rephrasing the question into English and removing the phoney and nonsensical "corporate speak".
  
  The answer is it's impossible to have any influence on that any more than we can directly influence the £13k per employee subsidy paid annually at Tax Payers expense paid to the Arms Industry.
  
  The fact that we may all ALL be responsible in some small way for crimes carried out in OUR name either inadvertently, knowingly or unknowingly by simply living in the society which perpetrates them does not make it wrong to speak out or protest about them.
  
  Nor does it mean people should not recycle our finite resources just in case some war profiteers ultimately use the recycled materials.

  I can't understand what you are trying to say, perhaps you could provide a response in simple English that addresses the points / questions I raised. A bit less anger and vitriol may assist and feel free to consider your words before you provide them. Better to have a clear and well thought through response than a few words that are nonsensical and don't provide clarity.
  
  The floor is yours and p.s. calm down a tad.

  Well Bladesboy I can see no anger or vitriol in my words above. That's in your head I think.
  
  My answer is a direct answer to your question. Maybe if you took the time to read it.
  
  It's an answer to your question and not in meaningless "Corporate Speak" you seem to favour no doubt inspired by watching "The Apprentice" a bit more than is good for you. I'm sure someone else can possibly translate it into that ludicrous form of language for you if it helps with your understanding.
  
  I think my points are fairly clear and direct but you obviously have some problem following my argument. Of course you and others may disagree with my views but I can say no more as I think it is all there in plain English and I can't help it if you have problems following it.

  bright I'm not, I can't understand a word you are saying. Perhaps you could simply provide bullet point responses that make sense.
  
  Do you think that might be why less than 0.001% of the UK population agree with you?

  Oh Bladesboy!! You remind me of Marjorie Dawes.
  
  As I say I can't help your very obvious limitations but I think anyone else can read and understand my points and disagree or agree as they see fit. I'm quite happy with that.
  
  But maybe you can let me know where you get the figure of 0.001% from? If we include the whole population rather than just the population over the age of say 10 -- which we probably should do (since on the whole very young children probably don't care one way or the other) -- then that makes only approx 62000 people who don't support the Arms Trade. Sounds a bit low to me.
  
  I'd be really interested to know the source for your figures as I don't know the exact figures myself but I'd say it was much more than that.

  You are clearly struggling with your maths as well as your English. Equally you don't even have any data on the level of support your whimsical and nonsensical campaign has. Suggest on that basis and given your inability to communicate your arguments and points, that you are better aligned with the occupy protest. Oh hang on a second you are part of that failure as well. Is failure your philosophy?

  So which bit of my maths is wrong Bladesboy. I had to make various assumptions since your figure didn't make certain things clear including the source.
  
  But as far as I see the maths is fine. Could you help me out here and explain where I've gone wrong.
  
  And my English is bad too is it?
  
  I'll leave it to others to judge who has the best command of the English language since there is such a bewildering choice of examples of your fine grasp of English grammar across the Argus web pages.

  So is failure your philosophy, its certainly your personal brand?
  
  Suggest you re-run the numbers yourself until the answer matches your data set, although I am sure that you will continue to manipulate both until you arrive at the conclusion you want!
  
  In the interim (suspect it will take you a long time given your intellect) keep batting away responses to the multiple challenges from normal people.

  Indeed you are right Bladesboy (there's a first time for everything) I forgot to add the percentage so the figure was 100 times to great.
  
  Working and posting to the Argus Website at the same time isn't always ideal.
  
  But of course since you have an automatic response mechanism to just say that everything I say is "just wrong" and give no reason I just ignore it as usual.
  
  So yes you're right my maths was wrong by a factor of 100 but in that case your initial figures are even more wildly out so it is even more important explain where you get the figures.

  Sorry, struggling to type here as I have tears streaming down my face triggered by laughing uncontrollably at your ineptitude.
  
  Its your argument and your data, yet you don't have the detail. You have the nerve to argue when you don't have the fact. You would do better to concentrate on your 'work' and lets hope whatever you are doing doesn't involve maths and, or English.

  Well Bladesboy unlike you I have no problem admitting when I make a mistake. And the fact is that I was working on your figures which you still haven't explained or given a source for. It was your argument and your data!
  
  But for a second time today you are right (the world's turned upside down!) and I should be concentrating and finishing my work.
  
  So I'll leave you to explain your assertion that only .001% of people object to the Arms Trade.

  Sorry to have to correct you yet again, however I believe it is actually less than that number, it is you people that quote it, so back to you.
  
  Whilst you toil and deal with increasing frustration, I am now out for a fine lunch, a few drinks, football and of course all to be enjoyed with good company. The latter being in complete contrast to this exchange.

  Which number are you referring to? The 0.001% is your figure and the essential figure we are talking about. The population number was my estimate which I don't think was unreasonable.
  
  So I think you are the one who is wrong here. As I say I'm always prepare to admit when I make a genuine mistake - there's no shame in that even if you are going to get an inordinate amount of pleasure from it - but I cannot see how you can say that the 0.001% is our figure. You don't even quote a source. That's just plain wrong."
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