13-year-old bailed after death of Woodingdean teen Connor Saunders (From The Argus)
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13-year-old bailed after death of Woodingdean teen Connor Saunders
7:27am Monday 16th April 2012 in News By Tim Ridgway, Local government reporter
TRIBUTES: Connor Saunders
A 13-year-old boy arrested over the death of a promising young Brighton footballer has been bailed.
Connor Saunders, 19, is believed to have received a forceful punch during an argument between two groups of people near Tesco in West Street, Rottingdean.
Police believe the incident took place between 10.30 and 10.55pm on Saturday.
Three teenagers were arrested on suspicion of murder after Mr Saunders, of Downsway, Woodingdean, Brighton, was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital, Brighton, but died yesterday morning.
Police said two 14-year-old boys remain in custody today on suspicion of murder.
They added a 13-year-old boy, who was also arrested on suspicion of murder, has been released on bail until 8 May pending further enquiries
The lifelong Chelsea fan played football as a youth with former X-Factor contestant and Woodingdean-based Frankie Cocozza.
The singer wrote on social media website Twitter: "My life will never be the same".
He began the message with the "#cs26" hashtag, which was begun by friends after news Mr Saunders had died.
For a full report and tributes to Connor see today's Argus or leave your tributes below.
Comments(41)
spa301
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10:16am Mon 16 Apr 12
simonbn3
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11:19am Mon 16 Apr 12
ArundelTerrazzo
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11:28am Mon 16 Apr 12
spa301 wrote:I agree that it is a terrible tragedy, but I think you mean genteel. Gentile means something altogether different.
Terrible tragedy, in what was once considered a quiet gentile village. I'm especially shocked at the very young age of those arrested. Am I naive or are 13/14 year olds regularily to be found out late at night unaccompanied and if so why??
Honey68
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11:29am Mon 16 Apr 12
HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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12:09pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Gillian121
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2:00pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Morpheus
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2:46pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Laug
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3:32pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
Surely not!
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4:25pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Laug wrote:I, like you, have never made a mistake. Like you, I am also completely sure of the circumstances of what went on here. Therefore I am willing to condemn like you. Perhaps you could share your stones and we could throw them together?
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
MissYouOllieGolbs
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4:53pm Mon 16 Apr 12
R.I.P Connor, you're now with Ollie (Golbey), keep eachother safe. ♥
MissYouOllieGolbs
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5:01pm Mon 16 Apr 12
simonbn3
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5:24pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Laug wrote:@ Laug
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
Couldn't agree more. What responsible parent allows their 13 year old out alone that late on a Saturday night? The parents need to be investigated too.
Old Ladys Gin
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5:43pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Hit someone on the head or any other vulnerable part of the body and serious harm is intended.
It really is as simple as that.
When you decide to do that then you agree to the consequences.
simonbn3
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5:52pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Old Ladys Gin wrote:Couldn't agree more.
Hit someone and you intend to do them harm.
Hit someone on the head or any other vulnerable part of the body and serious harm is intended.
It really is as simple as that.
When you decide to do that then you agree to the consequences.
Surely not!
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5:59pm Mon 16 Apr 12
MissYouOllieGolbs
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6:01pm Mon 16 Apr 12
simonbn3 wrote:Totally agree.
Old Ladys Gin wrote:Couldn't agree more.
Hit someone and you intend to do them harm.
Hit someone on the head or any other vulnerable part of the body and serious harm is intended.
It really is as simple as that.
When you decide to do that then you agree to the consequences.
hols00
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6:28pm Mon 16 Apr 12
exbtnbabe
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6:45pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Laug
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8:18pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Surely not! wrote:I am not saying I have never made a mistake, they are what life is about. How are you meant to change to a better person without them. Neither have I said they are 100% guilty or that I know what happened that night. But they wouldn't be arrested if they weren't suspected and the 13 year old would be cleared not bailed if he was not guilty. A mistake is one thing, killing someone is another.
Laug wrote:I, like you, have never made a mistake. Like you, I am also completely sure of the circumstances of what went on here. Therefore I am willing to condemn like you. Perhaps you could share your stones and we could throw them together?
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
Laug
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8:21pm Mon 16 Apr 12
MissYouOllieGolbs wrote:Too true, too many good young people are being taken from that area
A boys life has been bailed and he's out on bail? What happened to justice?! They deserve to be punished, big time. I didn't know Connor personally, but he went to my high school & primary school, he seemed like a lovely boy, I don't believe it would've been self defence either, Connor didn't seem the type of boy to even hit a fly, I might be wrong, but that's my opinion. It isn't fair that Connor's life got taken & that boys out on bail, whether you agree with me or not, I don't care. It's wrong.
R.I.P Connor, you're now with Ollie (Golbey), keep eachother safe. ♥
Laug
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8:24pm Mon 16 Apr 12
hols00 wrote:I agree, and it is said that it is likely to be what these people get when a life has been takened... and someone said that these lives are being ruined....!
Laug..spot on. Although with the justice system the way it is they'll get a few years maybe an a nice comfy lifestyle in a young offenders unit with flat screens,ps3,pool tables etc... mixing with other little turds just like them.
sn7tkjg
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9:12pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Maxwell's Ghost
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10:38pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Society is people, it's parents.
Parents lead their children, they set standards, and they should instill kindness and honour in their offspring not violence, hate and gangs.
13-year-olds are children and the result of children wandering the streets is that they are at serious risk of getting themselves into trouble as they are vulnerable and still need adult guidance at this age.
Now we have a group of children who have got themselves into a situation which adults should not even find themsevles in and a young man has lost his life needlessly.
simonbn3
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11:05pm Mon 16 Apr 12
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:Well put, Maxwell
Morpheus you say we need to look at society.
Society is people, it's parents.
Parents lead their children, they set standards, and they should instill kindness and honour in their offspring not violence, hate and gangs.
13-year-olds are children and the result of children wandering the streets is that they are at serious risk of getting themselves into trouble as they are vulnerable and still need adult guidance at this age.
Now we have a group of children who have got themselves into a situation which adults should not even find themsevles in and a young man has lost his life needlessly.
sick of whingers
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12:37am Tue 17 Apr 12
a local resident_1 wrote:i could not agree more with this, what has happened is horrific bit surely not intended. I feel so much for the family and friends of this poor young man but some on here are passing sentence on others before the facts are examined or the circumstanes known, innocent until proven guilty is maximum we should all remember, if guilty they deserve punishment befitting the crime and the circumstances that the court considers but the hanging, flogging of children being advocated on here is worthy of the third world not 21st century uk finaaly my thoughts again go out to this young man's family
as shocked and upset as i am ,the boys in custody are children.to label them as 'murderers' is just not fair .only one boy punched the victim and he ,like all of us is probably just as shocked and horrified at the out come of his actions.The police still have not examined the cctv footage nearly 2 days after this terrible tragedy .no one expects a punch to kill ,this was not a premeditated attack ,if so it would be murder, i think it was more like a freak accident and because of this the term manslaughter should be used instead.yes a lovely family have lost a son and brother , but 2 or 3 other families could also loose their sons .do you think custodial sentences would actually do these young boys any good?,as i do not,these young boys have never been in trouble before, sending them to a young offenders centre that is full of repeat offenders, this would ruin the lives of them for sure not to mention their families . i think the punishment that they receive should be thought about very very carefully,one life lost is enough ,sending these young lads away would loose their lives to and the rest of th
a local resident_1
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1:44am Tue 17 Apr 12
Laug wrote:i agree with most of the above,life is about learning from our mistakes. but i do think we should leave the decision on whether they are guilty to the judge and jury who will no the facts.
Surely not! wrote:I am not saying I have never made a mistake, they are what life is about. How are you meant to change to a better person without them. Neither have I said they are 100% guilty or that I know what happened that night. But they wouldn't be arrested if they weren't suspected and the 13 year old would be cleared not bailed if he was not guilty. A mistake is one thing, killing someone is another.
Laug wrote:I, like you, have never made a mistake. Like you, I am also completely sure of the circumstances of what went on here. Therefore I am willing to condemn like you. Perhaps you could share your stones and we could throw them together?
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
Old Ladys Gin
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10:34am Tue 17 Apr 12
a local resident_1 wrote:'no one expects a punch to kill'
as shocked and upset as i am ,the boys in custody are children.to label them as 'murderers' is just not fair .only one boy punched the victim and he ,like all of us is probably just as shocked and horrified at the out come of his actions.The police still have not examined the cctv footage nearly 2 days after this terrible tragedy .no one expects a punch to kill ,this was not a premeditated attack ,if so it would be murder, i think it was more like a freak accident and because of this the term manslaughter should be used instead.yes a lovely family have lost a son and brother , but 2 or 3 other families could also loose their sons .do you think custodial sentences would actually do these young boys any good?,as i do not,these young boys have never been in trouble before, sending them to a young offenders centre that is full of repeat offenders, this would ruin the lives of them for sure not to mention their families . i think the punishment that they receive should be thought about very very carefully,one life lost is enough ,sending these young lads away would loose their lives to and the rest of th
That is utter nonesense and any punch to any part of the body can have serious consequences. A punch to the head is always going to cause some kind of damage.
Anyone who believes a punch cannot kill is naive in the extreme.
a local resident_1
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2:39pm Tue 17 Apr 12
Old Ladys Gin wrote:i do not no if i am speaking to a man or a lady here, but many marshal arts require direct contact as does boxing,maybe if schools taught how to box correctly,like they did when my father was at school, bad or illegal punches may not occur .also people gain a respect for the sport and then abide by the rules it becomes an art . personally i think girls as well as boys should have the choice to participate, it could save their dignity as well as their life.for myself i practised mixed marshal arts mainly judo and kick boxing and am still here to tell you anything you would like to no on the subject after 25 years of learning the art. naive i am not ,
a local resident_1 wrote:'no one expects a punch to kill'
as shocked and upset as i am ,the boys in custody are children.to label them as 'murderers' is just not fair .only one boy punched the victim and he ,like all of us is probably just as shocked and horrified at the out come of his actions.The police still have not examined the cctv footage nearly 2 days after this terrible tragedy .no one expects a punch to kill ,this was not a premeditated attack ,if so it would be murder, i think it was more like a freak accident and because of this the term manslaughter should be used instead.yes a lovely family have lost a son and brother , but 2 or 3 other families could also loose their sons .do you think custodial sentences would actually do these young boys any good?,as i do not,these young boys have never been in trouble before, sending them to a young offenders centre that is full of repeat offenders, this would ruin the lives of them for sure not to mention their families . i think the punishment that they receive should be thought about very very carefully,one life lost is enough ,sending these young lads away would loose their lives to and the rest of th
That is utter nonesense and any punch to any part of the body can have serious consequences. A punch to the head is always going to cause some kind of damage.
Anyone who believes a punch cannot kill is naive in the extreme.
Old Ladys Gin
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3:23pm Tue 17 Apr 12
It happens all to often.
I utterly respect anyone who learns a skill and feel sure that you also appreciate how dangerous punches can be; self discipline that many of these sports require is very import.
I am sure that is one of the first things you learn.
stella40
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4:16pm Tue 17 Apr 12
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
Laug
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5:01pm Tue 17 Apr 12
stella40 wrote:@Stella40
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
No I wasn't there on that night... and how can you be so sure about what they were doing or thinking, where you there? I am also sad that Connor lost his life, this has affected many people I know and care about. I have never said that they have definitely done it- I said IF they are guilty... And they may not have intended to kill someone, but a person did get killed. IF they were the people who did it, at 13/14 they are old enough to know the consequences of actions such as this
Laug
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5:01pm Tue 17 Apr 12
stella40 wrote:@Stella40
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
No I wasn't there on that night... and how can you be so sure about what they were doing or thinking, where you there? I am also sad that Connor lost his life, this has affected many people I know and care about. I have never said that they have definitely done it- I said IF they are guilty... And they may not have intended to kill someone, but a person did get killed. IF they were the people who did it, at 13/14 they are old enough to know the consequences of actions such as this
Laug
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5:01pm Tue 17 Apr 12
stella40 wrote:@Stella40
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
No I wasn't there on that night... and how can you be so sure about what they were doing or thinking, where you there? I am also sad that Connor lost his life, this has affected many people I know and care about. I have never said that they have definitely done it- I said IF they are guilty... And they may not have intended to kill someone, but a person did get killed. IF they were the people who did it, at 13/14 they are old enough to know the consequences of actions such as this
Titch94
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6:14pm Tue 17 Apr 12
a local resident_1
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7:56pm Tue 17 Apr 12
Old Ladys Gin wrote:sadly any punch, kick, heading a football, riding a horse or bike / scooter can all lead to fatalities if not done properly. control is one of the first things you learn, thats controlling yourself ,whether its your hands legs bike or animal they all take skill and yes are dangerous. what no body actually knows is whether it was the punch that stole poor connor from us ,or when he hit the ground all i do no is that it was truly awfull my heart goes out to his family in their hour of need and my thoughts are with the families of the boys that were released r.i.p connor i hope your still smiling x
The point remains that punches can, and do, kill, as seems to be the case in this tragedy.
It happens all to often.
I utterly respect anyone who learns a skill and feel sure that you also appreciate how dangerous punches can be; self discipline that many of these sports require is very import.
I am sure that is one of the first things you learn.
Ells1992
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11:14am Wed 18 Apr 12
Laug wrote:stella40 how can you say these three boys are lovely boys, your a disgrace. these boys are responsible for the death of an amazing individual who was loved more than you could ever imagine. Any 14 year old that is willing to throw a punch, does so with the intent to seriously hurt someone, how can you defend this? makes me sick in the stomach.
stella40 wrote:@Stella40
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
No I wasn't there on that night... and how can you be so sure about what they were doing or thinking, where you there? I am also sad that Connor lost his life, this has affected many people I know and care about. I have never said that they have definitely done it- I said IF they are guilty... And they may not have intended to kill someone, but a person did get killed. IF they were the people who did it, at 13/14 they are old enough to know the consequences of actions such as this
Ells1992
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11:21am Wed 18 Apr 12
MissYouOllieGolbs wrote:he was the nicest kid i've ever met, never got himself in any trouble, and like you say, it wasn't self defence it was a brutal act of violence which has left a family without a son, and many without a friend.
A boys life has been bailed and he's out on bail? What happened to justice?! They deserve to be punished, big time. I didn't know Connor personally, but he went to my high school & primary school, he seemed like a lovely boy, I don't believe it would've been self defence either, Connor didn't seem the type of boy to even hit a fly, I might be wrong, but that's my opinion. It isn't fair that Connor's life got taken & that boys out on bail, whether you agree with me or not, I don't care. It's wrong.
R.I.P Connor, you're now with Ollie (Golbey), keep eachother safe. ♥
Paolo123321
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5:38pm Wed 18 Apr 12
R.I.P Connor x
stella40
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8:22pm Wed 18 Apr 12
Ells1992 wrote:really and do u no what i feel sick 2 my stomach !!! and a young lad has died R I P connor so very sad but do u believe that this young 14 yr old would be out on bail if there wasn't more 2 it !!!! this cctv and statements ect and i can say that they were nice 3 boys cause they are ,and the truth will come out and like i said before this is so tragic 4 all
Laug wrote:stella40 how can you say these three boys are lovely boys, your a disgrace. these boys are responsible for the death of an amazing individual who was loved more than you could ever imagine. Any 14 year old that is willing to throw a punch, does so with the intent to seriously hurt someone, how can you defend this? makes me sick in the stomach.
stella40 wrote:@Stella40
Laug wrote:omg, listen to you,was u there on that awful night ??? no-one knows the truth at the moment, so i suggest u shut yr vile mouth. Im so sad that connor has lost his life and god i feel 4 his poor family, but these 3 boys are also lovely boys, they did'nt go out 2 kill some1 that awful night, they are not fighters nor would they go looking 4 trouble, so something is not right. They also come from loving families & im sorry but ive read and listened to ppl puting these young boys down and u don't even know them. How does any1 not no it was'nt self defence ? Every1 is assuming they have gone out 2 kill some1 which is sadly not in this case,it could happen 2 any1 of us this is such a tragic incident and the truth will come out
Morpheus wrote:"these boys may have their lives ruined if charged..." Are you kidding me! If they are guilty they will be charged and get everything they deserve, or lets hope so. A GOOD YOUNG MAN HAS DIED, THAT IS THE LIFE RUINED NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM! If these kids don't like the consequences of their actions, maybe they should have considered it before throwing a deadly punch. And if their families don't like it then they should consider their parenting skills. They are responsible for the 13/14 year olds- children- and should have though about what could happen with them being out so late, and taught them right from wrong ie. not killing someone!
People are right to ask why young boys were out late at night but it is the violence that is the real issue. It is however too early to start placing blame. We should remember that the boys may have their lives ruined if charged and their families will also have to live with this. The boys also went to a local school and pupils there will be distressed. We need to look at the society that has been created that allows this and we are all guilty in some way.
No I wasn't there on that night... and how can you be so sure about what they were doing or thinking, where you there? I am also sad that Connor lost his life, this has affected many people I know and care about. I have never said that they have definitely done it- I said IF they are guilty... And they may not have intended to kill someone, but a person did get killed. IF they were the people who did it, at 13/14 they are old enough to know the consequences of actions such as this
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