Brighton police criticise plans to disrupt March for England

Police have said they are “disappointed” with anti-fascists’ plans to oppose a “patriotic” march.

March For England members are planning to walk from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens on Sunday and police have warned that it is “inevitable” city residents will face disruption.

Anti-fascists groups have announced plans to line the route to “mock and harangue” the marchers.

But despite March for England’s supposed links to anti-Islamic protests and football hooliganism groups, the police have criticised the decision to try to disrupt the event.

Superintendent Steve Whitton, who will be in charge of the policing operation on Sunday, said he was “disappointed” that members of opposition groups including Unite Against Fascism had not told the force their plans for the day.

However anti-fascists said their plans had always been public and that officers had their contact details.

Supt Whitton said: “I am concerned that there may be some people attending this event whose intention is not to peacefully protest and whose behaviour will go beyond that which is acceptable.

“We have been in discussion with the organiser for the March for England and have agreed a route from the |railway station to Victoria Gardens where speeches will take place before the event closes.

“Unfortunately we have not been able to discuss plans for the policing operation and any plans for a counter protest although obviously we are very aware there will be counter protests on the day.

“This is disappointing.

“Engagement with opposing groups has been limited so far but we will continue to try to contact any such organisers to establish their intentions for the day.

“I would appeal to anyone who does want to protest to speak with police so that we can assist in giving everyone the right to peacefully protest while getting your voice heard.

“As in previous such events some disruption in the city centre is inevitable, particularly if both protest groups rendezvous at Brighton Railway Station and when the marches finish at Victoria Gardens. I encourage any counter protestors to go to Victoria Gardens as, for safety reasons, we will be restricting numbers at the railway station.”

A UAF activist, who did not wish to be named, said: “We have made public all of our plans.”

March for England organiser Dave Smeeton, from Portsmouth, said members of the group were not racists and had no links to EDL, but added that he had previously taken part in EDL protests.

He added: “We have been trying to do everything we can to make it a peaceful event.

“Last time it was them that were throwing bottles.”

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11:34am Wed 18 Apr 12

john5001 says...

not enough English men in brighton
not enough English men in brighton john5001

11:40am Wed 18 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

Then dont come to Brighton.
your not from Brighton you have no links with the city and your not wanted.
70 years ago people like you could be set on fire and then shot.
Then dont come to Brighton. your not from Brighton you have no links with the city and your not wanted. 70 years ago people like you could be set on fire and then shot. voiceofthescoombe

12:19pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Remember, the Police aren't angry with you, they're just disappointed
Remember, the Police aren't angry with you, they're just disappointed Ashles

12:19pm Wed 18 Apr 12

censored says...

I agree with the police. If it was just the racist idiots, they'd march and go home disappointed that there was only 30 of them and they didn't cause a stink.
I agree with the police. If it was just the racist idiots, they'd march and go home disappointed that there was only 30 of them and they didn't cause a stink. censored

12:19pm Wed 18 Apr 12

spa301 says...

Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police.
If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater. spa301

12:30pm Wed 18 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country.
I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country. lordenglandofsussex

12:43pm Wed 18 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls
ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since
please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since All 9 of me

12:46pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Fercri Sakes says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country.
Just don't tell them that the Royal Family is German. It might confuse them.
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country.[/p][/quote]Just don't tell them that the Royal Family is German. It might confuse them. Fercri Sakes

12:49pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote: I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country.
Just don't tell them that the Royal Family is German. It might confuse them.
That's not true.
Some are Greek.
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: I would urge the pensioners of B&H to join this march, fly the George Cross and show these left-wing fascists and anti-English racists that it is still our country.[/p][/quote]Just don't tell them that the Royal Family is German. It might confuse them.[/p][/quote]That's not true. Some are Greek. Ashles

1:00pm Wed 18 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

All 9 of me wrote:
please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls

ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since
Wrong by many miles my little Marxist. The village of Battle to be exact. Retired and filthy rich to be even more exact.
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since[/p][/quote]Wrong by many miles my little Marxist. The village of Battle to be exact. Retired and filthy rich to be even more exact. lordenglandofsussex

1:02pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Andy R says...

spa301 wrote:
Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then?

My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves.

I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years...... Andy R

1:26pm Wed 18 Apr 12

spa301 says...

Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
My observation was not specific to this report.
Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police.
Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......[/p][/quote]My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years. spa301

1:35pm Wed 18 Apr 12

whereisthe...? says...

nice to see the illiterate racists out in force posting today - "helo too yuu orl" (Hello to you all).

Anyone with half a brain knows the March For England lot for what they are - go GOOGLE / CHECK YOUTUBE / POSTS ON FACEBOOK / GUARDIAN ARTICLES ETC, ETC, ETC.

If you are one of the racist posters, ask a relative, or someone not stupid to do it for you.

It is not a question of are they / are they not racist - its WHY such overt displays of racism are encouraged and allowed by so many Brightonians. As I made clear with the refs - its SIMPLE - Its either STUPIDITY ("They don't seem racist to me...) OR plain ol' RACISM...!
nice to see the illiterate racists out in force posting today - "helo too yuu orl" (Hello to you all). Anyone with half a brain knows the March For England lot for what they are - go GOOGLE / CHECK YOUTUBE / POSTS ON FACEBOOK / GUARDIAN ARTICLES ETC, ETC, ETC. If you are one of the racist posters, ask a relative, or someone not stupid to do it for you. It is not a question of are they / are they not racist - its WHY such overt displays of racism are encouraged and allowed by so many Brightonians. As I made clear with the refs - its SIMPLE - Its either STUPIDITY ("They don't seem racist to me...) OR plain ol' RACISM...! whereisthe...?

1:54pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Andy R says...

spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.
My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......[/p][/quote]My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.[/p][/quote]My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk.... Andy R

2:31pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Saltdean Resident says...

I dont know much about this March for England outfit and thought i best check them out before deciding to bring my family in to town on Sunday. So i had a look at the website and facebook page, most of the pictures were of skin head football top wearing middle aged men drinking beer waving falgs. A quick look at their face book page is enough to scare anyone, here is a post taken from the organiser of the march " March For England Not saying we are doing this in Brighton on the 22nd but it is so easy to dress up like those ANTIFA fools, blak hoodie and scarf round your face and your in. Might be wise for them to always be looking over thier shoulders just in case we pop up in the near future. There bottle is going as they have changed the time of thier event. Finish at 4pm oh just about the time the Families and Police have left and it will be just our main MfE lot about. Same as every other year the UAF melt when the Families and Police leave. We where drinking in a pub right up by the station till gone 9pm last year they knew we where there. They went back early hours of the morning and threw paint over pub. What a bunch of FOOLS. Pompey Dave" And the police let him put this march on!! Looks like a far right winger looking for a fight, beware anyone going thinking it's a St Georges day get together. A quiet afternoon in Saltdean then.
I dont know much about this March for England outfit and thought i best check them out before deciding to bring my family in to town on Sunday. So i had a look at the website and facebook page, most of the pictures were of skin head football top wearing middle aged men drinking beer waving falgs. A quick look at their face book page is enough to scare anyone, here is a post taken from the organiser of the march " March For England Not saying we are doing this in Brighton on the 22nd but it is so easy to dress up like those ANTIFA fools, blak hoodie and scarf round your face and your in. Might be wise for them to always be looking over thier shoulders just in case we pop up in the near future. There bottle is going as they have changed the time of thier event. Finish at 4pm oh just about the time the Families and Police have left and it will be just our main MfE lot about. Same as every other year the UAF melt when the Families and Police leave. We where drinking in a pub right up by the station till gone 9pm last year they knew we where there. They went back early hours of the morning and threw paint over pub. What a bunch of FOOLS. Pompey Dave" And the police let him put this march on!! Looks like a far right winger looking for a fight, beware anyone going thinking it's a St Georges day get together. A quiet afternoon in Saltdean then. Saltdean Resident

2:55pm Wed 18 Apr 12

spa301 says...

Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.
My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....
I too am now very disappointed........
.............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject.
Time to bow out.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......[/p][/quote]My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.[/p][/quote]My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....[/p][/quote]I too am now very disappointed........ .............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject. Time to bow out. spa301

3:51pm Wed 18 Apr 12

doctorkiller says...

spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.
My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....
I too am now very disappointed........

.............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject.
Time to bow out.
why should the police run around for the turds in the anti english brigade, sorry its not their. job if you want to be little pratts and turn up at everything thats your right but its your job to tell the police its not their job to chase stupid scumbags like you around and waste time phoning every lil non entity anti phone line. get it morons.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......[/p][/quote]My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.[/p][/quote]My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....[/p][/quote]I too am now very disappointed........ .............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject. Time to bow out.[/p][/quote]why should the police run around for the turds in the anti english brigade, sorry its not their. job if you want to be little pratts and turn up at everything thats your right but its your job to tell the police its not their job to chase stupid scumbags like you around and waste time phoning every lil non entity anti phone line. get it morons. doctorkiller

3:51pm Wed 18 Apr 12

doctorkiller says...

spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Andy R wrote:
spa301 wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.
Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......
My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.
My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....
I too am now very disappointed........

.............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject.
Time to bow out.
why should the police run around for the turds in the anti english brigade, sorry its not their job if you want to be little pratts and turn up at everything thats your right but its your job to tell the police its not their job to chase stupid scumbags like you around and waste time phoning every lil non entity anti phone line. get it morons.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Why do the anti's always come across as slightly immature, slightly hysterical and seemingly unwilling to cooperate with the police. If they could address these issues I'm sure their support would be all the greater.[/p][/quote]Obviously missing the bit in the article where it states that the "anti's" plans are in the public domain and the police know how to get hold of them, then? My union organised a march a few years back. We liaised fully with the police - only for them to forget it was on and fail to turn up on the day! We stewarded it quite effectively ourselves. I've been generally "disappointed" with Sussex Police for the best part of 35 years......[/p][/quote]My observation was not specific to this report. Information being in the public domain is not the same as liaising with the police. Were it not for the police, many more people with strident but opposing views would have been injured over the years.[/p][/quote]My disappointment can only increase with your apparent claim that a police officer has not yet mastered the use of the plastic object with a keypad that sits on his desk....[/p][/quote]I too am now very disappointed........ .............. with the general calibre of discussion regarding this subject. Time to bow out.[/p][/quote]why should the police run around for the turds in the anti english brigade, sorry its not their job if you want to be little pratts and turn up at everything thats your right but its your job to tell the police its not their job to chase stupid scumbags like you around and waste time phoning every lil non entity anti phone line. get it morons. doctorkiller

5:43pm Wed 18 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

All 9 of me wrote:
please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls

ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since
Hang on my sides have just split, you sure are funny, you may wish to consider standup.
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: please excuse lordxenophobeofmouls ecoomb, he attended a National Front rally in Brighton in the late 1980's, and hasn't quite been the same since[/p][/quote]Hang on my sides have just split, you sure are funny, you may wish to consider standup. onedaytheleftwillburn

5:48pm Wed 18 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

whereisthe...? wrote:
nice to see the illiterate racists out in force posting today - "helo too yuu orl" (Hello to you all).

Anyone with half a brain knows the March For England lot for what they are - go GOOGLE / CHECK YOUTUBE / POSTS ON FACEBOOK / GUARDIAN ARTICLES ETC, ETC, ETC.

If you are one of the racist posters, ask a relative, or someone not stupid to do it for you.

It is not a question of are they / are they not racist - its WHY such overt displays of racism are encouraged and allowed by so many Brightonians. As I made clear with the refs - its SIMPLE - Its either STUPIDITY ("They don't seem racist to me...) OR plain ol' RACISM...!
Thanks for that now why dont you F off back to the slum pit where you came from you complete an utter returd.
[quote][p][bold]whereisthe...?[/bold] wrote: nice to see the illiterate racists out in force posting today - "helo too yuu orl" (Hello to you all). Anyone with half a brain knows the March For England lot for what they are - go GOOGLE / CHECK YOUTUBE / POSTS ON FACEBOOK / GUARDIAN ARTICLES ETC, ETC, ETC. If you are one of the racist posters, ask a relative, or someone not stupid to do it for you. It is not a question of are they / are they not racist - its WHY such overt displays of racism are encouraged and allowed by so many Brightonians. As I made clear with the refs - its SIMPLE - Its either STUPIDITY ("They don't seem racist to me...) OR plain ol' RACISM...![/p][/quote]Thanks for that now why dont you F off back to the slum pit where you came from you complete an utter returd. onedaytheleftwillburn

6:56pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Keith Williamson says...

March for England are co-operating fully with the Police as they want to hold a peaceful parade, to celibrate Englishness and St George's Day. Brighton Anti-Fascists and Unite Against Fascism want to oppose and disrupt the march, and Searchlight Anti-Fascist Magazine have published an article on their website 'Oppose the March for England'. The so-called 'Anti-Fascists' are the real extremists, Fascists and enemies of freedom and democracy. Islamic extremists such as Abu Qatada should be deported, and moderate, law abiding Muslims should be supported. March for England have condemned the terrorist Anders Breivik on their Facebook page.
March for England are co-operating fully with the Police as they want to hold a peaceful parade, to celibrate Englishness and St George's Day. Brighton Anti-Fascists and Unite Against Fascism want to oppose and disrupt the march, and Searchlight Anti-Fascist Magazine have published an article on their website 'Oppose the March for England'. The so-called 'Anti-Fascists' are the real extremists, Fascists and enemies of freedom and democracy. Islamic extremists such as Abu Qatada should be deported, and moderate, law abiding Muslims should be supported. March for England have condemned the terrorist Anders Breivik on their Facebook page. Keith Williamson

12:16am Thu 19 Apr 12

OokMcKook says...

The Problem is many of the UAF are more racist/facist than the right wing.

Or need we forget they Don't scream racism when st patricks/st davids fay marches etc take place yet the UAF and HnH scream racism at English/British marches.

Or it it now the fact the left funded by those who would be at home in orwells 1984 just want brits of all colors to bow and scrape to everyone else?
The Problem is many of the UAF are more racist/facist than the right wing. Or need we forget they Don't scream racism when st patricks/st davids fay marches etc take place yet the UAF and HnH scream racism at English/British marches. Or it it now the fact the left funded by those who would be at home in orwells 1984 just want brits of all colors to bow and scrape to everyone else? OokMcKook

12:53am Thu 19 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

After the march for England last year whilst walking back to my car I was accosted on my way home by one of the great unwashed and friends but when I stood up to them rather than back off they all bottled it, Cowards thought that just because am disabled and I use a stick to walk with id be an easy target, BIG mistake, Don’t let the grey hair and walking stick fool you, I’m a veteran and I can still kick your Arse!
After the march for England last year whilst walking back to my car I was accosted on my way home by one of the great unwashed and friends but when I stood up to them rather than back off they all bottled it, Cowards thought that just because am disabled and I use a stick to walk with id be an easy target, BIG mistake, Don’t let the grey hair and walking stick fool you, I’m a veteran and I can still kick your Arse! The Old Crippel

2:51pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Retired Loon in Brighton says...

Remember, it's very important that the muppets in all of these groups get a chance to march and shout at the public trying to cope with their own, already stressful, lives.
It's important the public pay for the costs of the nappy-waving on both sides because it gives some much needed respite to all of their parents and/or carers...it's not just a day out for either group, it's a day off for all of their mums.
Remember, it's very important that the muppets in all of these groups get a chance to march and shout at the public trying to cope with their own, already stressful, lives. It's important the public pay for the costs of the nappy-waving on both sides because it gives some much needed respite to all of their parents and/or carers...it's not just a day out for either group, it's a day off for all of their mums. Retired Loon in Brighton

6:56pm Thu 19 Apr 12

workingclassandproudofit says...

Rather than 'mock and harangue', the most dignified and effective way of showing displeasure at the fascists' outing would be to stand in silence along the route and, as they pass, turn your back on them. Let them know what you think without stooping to their level.
Rather than 'mock and harangue', the most dignified and effective way of showing displeasure at the fascists' outing would be to stand in silence along the route and, as they pass, turn your back on them. Let them know what you think without stooping to their level. workingclassandproudofit

12:30am Fri 20 Apr 12

LawrenceG says...

Perhaps a litttle bit of insight into what exactly this march is about may help some people rethink their support.
The MfE is an organisation as well as an event and as an organisation they are very much part of the new fascism – the growing European 'counter-jihad' right. Although the annual march in Brighton is the main public event organised by the group, their banners can be found at many other EDL protests across the country. It's leadership are enthusiastic members and supporters of the EDL. MfE membership overlaps significantly with other groups including the Infidels, English Nationalist Alliance, Stop Islamification of Europe and Casuals United. Their focus is on a sense of English rather than British identity and opposition to Islam.
Although MfE claim to simply be patriots – what they mean by 'English values' is in fact thinly veiled racism, often although not limited to anti-muslim statements.
During their last outing in Brighton the MfE openly displayed English Defence League flags.
This year there have been desperate pleas by organisers to make this a 'no colours' event, i.e. that EDL members should leave their flags at home.
The truth is that the MfE come to Brighton because they feel that it is a site of 'anti-english' activity – they are against pretty much everything our city stands for.
We stand in opposition to the March for England not because we are anti-free speech. We have no problem with anyone celebrating their national, regional or ethnic identity or criticizing organised religion. We are not calling on the police or local government to ban this march. However we believe that ideologies of hate flourish when they are ignored and want the people of Brighton to show that the hate speech of the English Defence League isn’t welcome here or anywhere. The MfE were given the benefit of the doubt the first few times they appeared in Brighton, however they’ve used their platform to spread a message of hate and that we should not allow.
We want to bring the people of Brighton out onto the streets to let the MfE know exactly how welcome they are.

March for England factfile
http://stopmfe.wordp
ress.com
Perhaps a litttle bit of insight into what exactly this march is about may help some people rethink their support. The MfE is an organisation as well as an event and as an organisation they are very much part of the new fascism – the growing European 'counter-jihad' right. Although the annual march in Brighton is the main public event organised by the group, their banners can be found at many other EDL protests across the country. It's leadership are enthusiastic members and supporters of the EDL. MfE membership overlaps significantly with other groups including the Infidels, English Nationalist Alliance, Stop Islamification of Europe and Casuals United. Their focus is on a sense of English rather than British identity and opposition to Islam. Although MfE claim to simply be patriots – what they mean by 'English values' is in fact thinly veiled racism, often although not limited to anti-muslim statements. During their last outing in Brighton the MfE openly displayed English Defence League flags. This year there have been desperate pleas by organisers to make this a 'no colours' event, i.e. that EDL members should leave their flags at home. The truth is that the MfE come to Brighton because they feel that it is a site of 'anti-english' activity – they are against pretty much everything our city stands for. We stand in opposition to the March for England not because we are anti-free speech. We have no problem with anyone celebrating their national, regional or ethnic identity or criticizing organised religion. We are not calling on the police or local government to ban this march. However we believe that ideologies of hate flourish when they are ignored and want the people of Brighton to show that the hate speech of the English Defence League isn’t welcome here or anywhere. The MfE were given the benefit of the doubt the first few times they appeared in Brighton, however they’ve used their platform to spread a message of hate and that we should not allow. We want to bring the people of Brighton out onto the streets to let the MfE know exactly how welcome they are. March for England factfile http://stopmfe.wordp ress.com LawrenceG

3:21am Fri 20 Apr 12

chris elmes says...

"YAWN" .....Fascists vs Anti-Fascists these nutjobs don't seem to understand that they are two sides of the same coin. Just a bunch of retarded cretins the lot of them!
"YAWN" .....Fascists vs Anti-Fascists these nutjobs don't seem to understand that they are two sides of the same coin. Just a bunch of retarded cretins the lot of them! chris elmes

7:06pm Fri 20 Apr 12

mamboo says...

LawrenceG wrote:
Perhaps a litttle bit of insight into what exactly this march is about may help some people rethink their support. The MfE is an organisation as well as an event and as an organisation they are very much part of the new fascism – the growing European 'counter-jihad' right. Although the annual march in Brighton is the main public event organised by the group, their banners can be found at many other EDL protests across the country. It's leadership are enthusiastic members and supporters of the EDL. MfE membership overlaps significantly with other groups including the Infidels, English Nationalist Alliance, Stop Islamification of Europe and Casuals United. Their focus is on a sense of English rather than British identity and opposition to Islam. Although MfE claim to simply be patriots – what they mean by 'English values' is in fact thinly veiled racism, often although not limited to anti-muslim statements. During their last outing in Brighton the MfE openly displayed English Defence League flags. This year there have been desperate pleas by organisers to make this a 'no colours' event, i.e. that EDL members should leave their flags at home. The truth is that the MfE come to Brighton because they feel that it is a site of 'anti-english' activity – they are against pretty much everything our city stands for. We stand in opposition to the March for England not because we are anti-free speech. We have no problem with anyone celebrating their national, regional or ethnic identity or criticizing organised religion. We are not calling on the police or local government to ban this march. However we believe that ideologies of hate flourish when they are ignored and want the people of Brighton to show that the hate speech of the English Defence League isn’t welcome here or anywhere. The MfE were given the benefit of the doubt the first few times they appeared in Brighton, however they’ve used their platform to spread a message of hate and that we should not allow. We want to bring the people of Brighton out onto the streets to let the MfE know exactly how welcome they are. March for England factfile http://stopmfe.wordp ress.com
Eloquently put.
[quote][p][bold]LawrenceG[/bold] wrote: Perhaps a litttle bit of insight into what exactly this march is about may help some people rethink their support. The MfE is an organisation as well as an event and as an organisation they are very much part of the new fascism – the growing European 'counter-jihad' right. Although the annual march in Brighton is the main public event organised by the group, their banners can be found at many other EDL protests across the country. It's leadership are enthusiastic members and supporters of the EDL. MfE membership overlaps significantly with other groups including the Infidels, English Nationalist Alliance, Stop Islamification of Europe and Casuals United. Their focus is on a sense of English rather than British identity and opposition to Islam. Although MfE claim to simply be patriots – what they mean by 'English values' is in fact thinly veiled racism, often although not limited to anti-muslim statements. During their last outing in Brighton the MfE openly displayed English Defence League flags. This year there have been desperate pleas by organisers to make this a 'no colours' event, i.e. that EDL members should leave their flags at home. The truth is that the MfE come to Brighton because they feel that it is a site of 'anti-english' activity – they are against pretty much everything our city stands for. We stand in opposition to the March for England not because we are anti-free speech. We have no problem with anyone celebrating their national, regional or ethnic identity or criticizing organised religion. We are not calling on the police or local government to ban this march. However we believe that ideologies of hate flourish when they are ignored and want the people of Brighton to show that the hate speech of the English Defence League isn’t welcome here or anywhere. The MfE were given the benefit of the doubt the first few times they appeared in Brighton, however they’ve used their platform to spread a message of hate and that we should not allow. We want to bring the people of Brighton out onto the streets to let the MfE know exactly how welcome they are. March for England factfile http://stopmfe.wordp ress.com[/p][/quote]Eloquently put. mamboo

5:10pm Sat 21 Apr 12

stepford says...

I'm confused. When the EDL protest against Palestine, do they still wave the flags of St George of Syria Palaestina? lol. Idiots. Being patriotic doesn't require you to be racist, but these guys most certainly are. Just look at any youtube vid to see what their idea of a peaceful protest is. Brighton is about diversity and love. These racists and xenophobes don't belong here.
I'm confused. When the EDL protest against Palestine, do they still wave the flags of St George of Syria Palaestina? lol. Idiots. Being patriotic doesn't require you to be racist, but these guys most certainly are. Just look at any youtube vid to see what their idea of a peaceful protest is. Brighton is about diversity and love. These racists and xenophobes don't belong here. stepford

5:25pm Sat 21 Apr 12

stepford says...

chris elmes wrote:
"YAWN" .....Fascists vs Anti-Fascists these nutjobs don't seem to understand that they are two sides of the same coin. Just a bunch of retarded cretins the lot of them!
That's a rather unenlightened and untrue generalisation. I will be marching in opposition of these racists. I won't be trying to disrupt them or cause arguments. I will simply be there to say "this doesn't represent the majority or what Brighton stands for". I am not pro-Islam (I'm an anti-theist), I am Caucasian (white), born and raised in England to English parents, I am not a commie or socialist, not radically left and I have never been arrested or been in a physical fight in my life. I am just a normal person who doesn't think racism should be left unchallenged. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. It's not just UAF etc protesting this march. It is average, sensible, peace-loving people like me and my friends who have no affiliation to any anti-fascist group.
[quote][p][bold]chris elmes[/bold] wrote: "YAWN" .....Fascists vs Anti-Fascists these nutjobs don't seem to understand that they are two sides of the same coin. Just a bunch of retarded cretins the lot of them![/p][/quote]That's a rather unenlightened and untrue generalisation. I will be marching in opposition of these racists. I won't be trying to disrupt them or cause arguments. I will simply be there to say "this doesn't represent the majority or what Brighton stands for". I am not pro-Islam (I'm an anti-theist), I am Caucasian (white), born and raised in England to English parents, I am not a commie or socialist, not radically left and I have never been arrested or been in a physical fight in my life. I am just a normal person who doesn't think racism should be left unchallenged. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. It's not just UAF etc protesting this march. It is average, sensible, peace-loving people like me and my friends who have no affiliation to any anti-fascist group. stepford

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