Bottles thrown, bins torched and arrests during heated March for England

The Argus: Bottles thrown, bins torched and arrests during heated March for England Bottles thrown, bins torched and arrests during heated March for England

Today's March for England is heated.

The March For England was due to take place from midday, with participants gathering in Surrey Street at 11.30am. They are due to mark St George's Day by parading to Victoria Gardens.

Counter-demonstrators are planning to line the parade route in Queen's Road from 11am.

It started late and they have only just arrived in Victoria Gardens.

But there have been a lot of problems. One police officer told The Argus of a "massive scrum". There have also been bins torched, arrests and items thrown at the police.

Keep up with all the events as they happen on this page, with our live blog from 11am.

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11:00am Sun 22 Apr 12

clubrob6 says...

Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.
Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off. clubrob6

11:26am Sun 22 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

What a load of tosh ... No one is taking away your right to be proud of your country.

After all, it is the place where any eejit with half a braincell can march in protest; be they Muslims, Fascists, anti-Fascists or misguided self righteous EDO or EDL twits.
What a load of tosh ... No one is taking away your right to be proud of your country. After all, it is the place where any eejit with half a braincell can march in protest; be they Muslims, Fascists, anti-Fascists or misguided self righteous EDO or EDL twits. mimseycal

11:30am Sun 22 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

@ saramegan:
who walked past a gathering crowd of EDL marchers in Brighton and saw - shock horror -that one actually had a bulldog.

Not a bulldog! Oh .... Wow!!!!!
@ saramegan: who walked past a gathering crowd of EDL marchers in Brighton and saw - shock horror -that one actually had a bulldog. Not a bulldog! Oh .... Wow!!!!! mimseycal

11:46am Sun 22 Apr 12

jainldn says...

being the very proud desentent of immigrants, i believe they were hardly welcome when they turned up in their longships, 1000 plus years ago.
so everyone please remember everyone in our islands are the children of immigrants and just get used to it.whether you are christian, jewish, muslim, hindu, sikh, pagan or none of the above.
being the very proud desentent of immigrants, i believe they were hardly welcome when they turned up in their longships, 1000 plus years ago. so everyone please remember everyone in our islands are the children of immigrants and just get used to it.whether you are christian, jewish, muslim, hindu, sikh, pagan or none of the above. jainldn

11:48am Sun 22 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

@ Greenleftie ... St George was a Roman soldier in the Guard of Diocletian and was in all probability born to a Christian noble family in Syria.
@ Greenleftie ... St George was a Roman soldier in the Guard of Diocletian and was in all probability born to a Christian noble family in Syria. mimseycal

11:53am Sun 22 Apr 12

John H. West says...

Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us.

"Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."
Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us. "Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..." John H. West

12:40pm Sun 22 Apr 12

andydunn says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.
in 1930's germany, germans where told that the jews and new immigrants where stopping them being turely german, and are affecting the country.
funny how things come around again, dont be a tit, nobody is stopping you being proud at the pure luck that you where ploped out on this land form, after all by defult you have to be proud of something you've not done. because you have little else to be proud of.
p.s. im not stopping you having your say, and your march, we're in the uk, everyone can say what they, so what if a tiny number of muslims say british police burn in hell if british twits like the EDL want to bomb a mosque? bit pot calling kettle isnt it.
pp.s right winr neo nazis will never get a good welcome in brighton, remember a few weeks ago when a whole 4 of the EDL (worlds biggest street movemtn group btw) turned up in churchill square and where boo'd by a large crowd till they went home? that will always be the case
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.[/p][/quote]in 1930's germany, germans where told that the jews and new immigrants where stopping them being turely german, and are affecting the country. funny how things come around again, dont be a tit, nobody is stopping you being proud at the pure luck that you where ploped out on this land form, after all by defult you have to be proud of something you've not done. because you have little else to be proud of. p.s. im not stopping you having your say, and your march, we're in the uk, everyone can say what they, so what if a tiny number of muslims say british police burn in hell if british twits like the EDL want to bomb a mosque? bit pot calling kettle isnt it. pp.s right winr neo nazis will never get a good welcome in brighton, remember a few weeks ago when a whole 4 of the EDL (worlds biggest street movemtn group btw) turned up in churchill square and where boo'd by a large crowd till they went home? that will always be the case andydunn

1:02pm Sun 22 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

John H. West wrote:
Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us.

"Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."
There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist.

You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are.

This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee.

I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point.
[quote][p][bold]John H. West[/bold] wrote: Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us. "Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."[/p][/quote]There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist. You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are. This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee. I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point. lordenglandofsussex

1:05pm Sun 22 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

andydunn wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.
in 1930's germany, germans where told that the jews and new immigrants where stopping them being turely german, and are affecting the country.
funny how things come around again, dont be a tit, nobody is stopping you being proud at the pure luck that you where ploped out on this land form, after all by defult you have to be proud of something you've not done. because you have little else to be proud of.
p.s. im not stopping you having your say, and your march, we're in the uk, everyone can say what they, so what if a tiny number of muslims say british police burn in hell if british twits like the EDL want to bomb a mosque? bit pot calling kettle isnt it.
pp.s right winr neo nazis will never get a good welcome in brighton, remember a few weeks ago when a whole 4 of the EDL (worlds biggest street movemtn group btw) turned up in churchill square and where boo'd by a large crowd till they went home? that will always be the case
And what about the extreme left wing fascist groups like UAF? These thugs are no better and resort to violence.

You have been brainwashed. The extreme left and right are one of the same.
[quote][p][bold]andydunn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.[/p][/quote]in 1930's germany, germans where told that the jews and new immigrants where stopping them being turely german, and are affecting the country. funny how things come around again, dont be a tit, nobody is stopping you being proud at the pure luck that you where ploped out on this land form, after all by defult you have to be proud of something you've not done. because you have little else to be proud of. p.s. im not stopping you having your say, and your march, we're in the uk, everyone can say what they, so what if a tiny number of muslims say british police burn in hell if british twits like the EDL want to bomb a mosque? bit pot calling kettle isnt it. pp.s right winr neo nazis will never get a good welcome in brighton, remember a few weeks ago when a whole 4 of the EDL (worlds biggest street movemtn group btw) turned up in churchill square and where boo'd by a large crowd till they went home? that will always be the case[/p][/quote]And what about the extreme left wing fascist groups like UAF? These thugs are no better and resort to violence. You have been brainwashed. The extreme left and right are one of the same. lordenglandofsussex

1:12pm Sun 22 Apr 12

longman says...

............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton! longman

1:22pm Sun 22 Apr 12

dreamseller22 says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.
To be honest immigrants would probably stop taking British jobs if British people got off their arses and went out and applied for those jobs. I'm sorry, but I have more respect for the 'Immigrants' that work in a corner shop for 12 hours a night than I do for the brits that complain about having to go to the job centre for their benefits because they decided to have 5 kids by the time they were 19 to score a sweet free house.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: Im going on the march for england,after all it is our country and the massive influx of immigrants are taking away our right to be proud of our country,im representing my dad who is 94 who thinks blair and cameron are destroying our country with uncontrolled immigration.I just hope the march is not hijacked by extremists and is peacefull unlike the march in luton lately by muslims shouting british police burn in hell,and worse.Ive got my flag and im off.[/p][/quote]To be honest immigrants would probably stop taking British jobs if British people got off their arses and went out and applied for those jobs. I'm sorry, but I have more respect for the 'Immigrants' that work in a corner shop for 12 hours a night than I do for the brits that complain about having to go to the job centre for their benefits because they decided to have 5 kids by the time they were 19 to score a sweet free house. dreamseller22

1:25pm Sun 22 Apr 12

dreamseller22 says...

Oh and by the way, if you don't like immigrants- go work for £5 an hour, 12 hours a day yourself. No? Don't want to? I know a lot of people who have immigrated to this country to do just that. I'm british, born and bred, and if people wanna come over to this country, work hard and make their contributions to this society then I say go right ahead. Because a lot of british people dont even do that.
Oh and by the way, if you don't like immigrants- go work for £5 an hour, 12 hours a day yourself. No? Don't want to? I know a lot of people who have immigrated to this country to do just that. I'm british, born and bred, and if people wanna come over to this country, work hard and make their contributions to this society then I say go right ahead. Because a lot of british people dont even do that. dreamseller22

2:10pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Ballroom Blitz says...

As usual the problems and the violence is all from the anti EDL demonstrators. Same bunch that use any excuse to have a ruck with the police.
I hate extremism of all kinds, and that means on both sides.
Go and 'demonstrate' somewhere else.
As usual the problems and the violence is all from the anti EDL demonstrators. Same bunch that use any excuse to have a ruck with the police. I hate extremism of all kinds, and that means on both sides. Go and 'demonstrate' somewhere else. Ballroom Blitz

2:19pm Sun 22 Apr 12

btonbazz says...

It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?
It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere? btonbazz

2:24pm Sun 22 Apr 12

turtling. says...

Everyone is entitled to their views. The extremists on both sides might be taken a bit more seriously if they took more care of their appearance and put forward intelligent, thought-provoking argument. Instead we're presented with numbskulls in their brain-dead uniform, shaven or short hair, boots and the older ones with tatoos and pot bellies. On the other side, long haired soap dodgers whose stench of B O assaults your senses......cretins
Everyone is entitled to their views. The extremists on both sides might be taken a bit more seriously if they took more care of their appearance and put forward intelligent, thought-provoking argument. Instead we're presented with numbskulls in their brain-dead uniform, shaven or short hair, boots and the older ones with tatoos and pot bellies. On the other side, long haired soap dodgers whose stench of B O assaults your senses......cretins turtling.

2:34pm Sun 22 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

btonbazz wrote:
It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?
If the British troops in Afghanistan were to return tomorrow and their friends, relatives and supporters were there to greet them marching through London, you left-wing trash would be there to try and cause bother. You are no better than those you call trash.

Remember the little scab who hung on the flags of the cenotaph in Whitehall?
[quote][p][bold]btonbazz[/bold] wrote: It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?[/p][/quote]If the British troops in Afghanistan were to return tomorrow and their friends, relatives and supporters were there to greet them marching through London, you left-wing trash would be there to try and cause bother. You are no better than those you call trash. Remember the little scab who hung on the flags of the cenotaph in Whitehall? lordenglandofsussex

2:44pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
[quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left. onedaytheleftwillburn

2:52pm Sun 22 Apr 12

graham_Seagull says...

It's all a tad rubbish. Neither left or right extremism works for the majority of the population - the hint is in the tag 'extremist', which is usually bequeathed by a centrist or majority popular movement.
Last year at the st George day I saw hooded Asian youths goading skinheads. All as bad as each other and offer nothing.
It's all a tad rubbish. Neither left or right extremism works for the majority of the population - the hint is in the tag 'extremist', which is usually bequeathed by a centrist or majority popular movement. Last year at the st George day I saw hooded Asian youths goading skinheads. All as bad as each other and offer nothing. graham_Seagull

2:52pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Magic4Fact says...

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
John H. West wrote:
Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us.

"Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."
There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist.

You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are.

This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee.

I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point.
Let me get this straight...

You're accusing people of being hypocrites.

Then you say it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist.

Then you brand Muslims who fly the flag as racist.

I think it's time you dusted off the dictionary to look up the meaning of "hypocrisy"...
[quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John H. West[/bold] wrote: Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us. "Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."[/p][/quote]There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist. You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are. This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee. I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point.[/p][/quote]Let me get this straight... You're accusing people of being hypocrites. Then you say it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist. Then you brand Muslims who fly the flag as racist. I think it's time you dusted off the dictionary to look up the meaning of "hypocrisy"... Magic4Fact

2:52pm Sun 22 Apr 12

jeremy radvan says...

BBC website "About 140 people are taking part in a nationalist march through Brighton"
That is not a march, it is barely a line-dance class.
BBC website "About 140 people are taking part in a nationalist march through Brighton" That is not a march, it is barely a line-dance class. jeremy radvan

3:07pm Sun 22 Apr 12

spurs007 says...

jeremy radvan wrote:
BBC website "About 140 people are taking part in a nationalist march through Brighton"
That is not a march, it is barely a line-dance class.
WOW 140! More people attended the travellers meeting in Patcham last week.
[quote][p][bold]jeremy radvan[/bold] wrote: BBC website "About 140 people are taking part in a nationalist march through Brighton" That is not a march, it is barely a line-dance class.[/p][/quote]WOW 140! More people attended the travellers meeting in Patcham last week. spurs007

3:12pm Sun 22 Apr 12

mr busy says...

What exactly is this pointless parade supposed to achieve? I would rather the boys in blue are left to protect the public from real criminals than baby sit these bothersome individuals.
What exactly is this pointless parade supposed to achieve? I would rather the boys in blue are left to protect the public from real criminals than baby sit these bothersome individuals. mr busy

3:27pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The march is pointless.
Immigration is not the problem and the edl are too thick to understand.
The issue is that due to capitalism, from the late 1970s the British have sold off all their assets to foreign countries.
We do not own any of our own utilities or energy companies, we sold off our telecoms and even our chain stores and big uk companies are owned by foreign banks. We have even sold off football clubs to foreigners and did you know that large swathes of land in London are now owned by Arab states which have even
opened private schools and hospitals for their own people in
London.
Many new developments of properties in the uk are bought by overseas investors and even a small bit of newhaven beach is French owned and we are barred from using it.
Wake up you morons, the bloody right wing sold us off, not a few immigrants working in cafes and bars.
Now the right wing are selling off the NHS to private companies, probably Chinese or Russian banks.
I am no leftie, but there isn't much our generation hasnt flogged to foreigners.
The march is pointless. Immigration is not the problem and the edl are too thick to understand. The issue is that due to capitalism, from the late 1970s the British have sold off all their assets to foreign countries. We do not own any of our own utilities or energy companies, we sold off our telecoms and even our chain stores and big uk companies are owned by foreign banks. We have even sold off football clubs to foreigners and did you know that large swathes of land in London are now owned by Arab states which have even opened private schools and hospitals for their own people in London. Many new developments of properties in the uk are bought by overseas investors and even a small bit of newhaven beach is French owned and we are barred from using it. Wake up you morons, the bloody right wing sold us off, not a few immigrants working in cafes and bars. Now the right wing are selling off the NHS to private companies, probably Chinese or Russian banks. I am no leftie, but there isn't much our generation hasnt flogged to foreigners. Maxwell's Ghost

3:40pm Sun 22 Apr 12

turtling. says...

i've seen some of the edl getting indian and chinese takeaways........the
y can't really be sincere in their beliefs if they do that can they?
i've seen some of the edl getting indian and chinese takeaways........the y can't really be sincere in their beliefs if they do that can they? turtling.

3:42pm Sun 22 Apr 12

true-brightonian says...

Maxwell's Ghost, I could not agree more. The EDL are class traitors, and just show how weak and pathetic the British working class have become.
Maxwell's Ghost, I could not agree more. The EDL are class traitors, and just show how weak and pathetic the British working class have become. true-brightonian

4:02pm Sun 22 Apr 12

yummysteak says...

Shouldn't these guys be getting home,they have to get up for the Jeremy Kyle show in the morning.
Shouldn't these guys be getting home,they have to get up for the Jeremy Kyle show in the morning. yummysteak

4:04pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

true-brightonian wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost, I could not agree more. The EDL are class traitors, and just show how weak and pathetic the British working class have become.
What??? - you are a fat socialist pig backer, why dont you suck Ed Balls.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: Maxwell's Ghost, I could not agree more. The EDL are class traitors, and just show how weak and pathetic the British working class have become.[/p][/quote]What??? - you are a fat socialist pig backer, why dont you suck Ed Balls. onedaytheleftwillburn

4:08pm Sun 22 Apr 12

true-brightonian says...

@onedaytheleftwillbu
rn, anyone can tell from a single glance at the EDL types attending the "March for England" today are a semi-criminal and unemployable group of lumpen proles. Rather than blaming everyone in sight the EDL should cut down on the strong lager, have a wash and get an education. And find a good dentist.
@onedaytheleftwillbu rn, anyone can tell from a single glance at the EDL types attending the "March for England" today are a semi-criminal and unemployable group of lumpen proles. Rather than blaming everyone in sight the EDL should cut down on the strong lager, have a wash and get an education. And find a good dentist. true-brightonian

4:11pm Sun 22 Apr 12

John H. West says...

30 out of town EDL football hooligans, many well-known fascists, versus 400+ locals. Very embarrassing day for the EDL today, it's clear Brighton had enough of their nonsense. There really isn't much point to their march, clearly only really meant to as a provocation and to get a reaction from liberal Brighton. Nice to see all sexes, generations, classes etc. standing up to these bussed in nazis though. Hope they enjoy the bus replacement service back to Luton today.
30 out of town EDL football hooligans, many well-known fascists, versus 400+ locals. Very embarrassing day for the EDL today, it's clear Brighton had enough of their nonsense. There really isn't much point to their march, clearly only really meant to as a provocation and to get a reaction from liberal Brighton. Nice to see all sexes, generations, classes etc. standing up to these bussed in nazis though. Hope they enjoy the bus replacement service back to Luton today. John H. West

4:13pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

true-brightonian wrote:
@onedaytheleftwillbu

rn, anyone can tell from a single glance at the EDL types attending the "March for England" today are a semi-criminal and unemployable group of lumpen proles. Rather than blaming everyone in sight the EDL should cut down on the strong lager, have a wash and get an education. And find a good dentist.
Well I think that anyone looking at the left wing shouters can tell that a sheep dip kind of operation needs to occur, followed by the final trip on the magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands. This includes you - so called true red brightonian.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: @onedaytheleftwillbu rn, anyone can tell from a single glance at the EDL types attending the "March for England" today are a semi-criminal and unemployable group of lumpen proles. Rather than blaming everyone in sight the EDL should cut down on the strong lager, have a wash and get an education. And find a good dentist.[/p][/quote]Well I think that anyone looking at the left wing shouters can tell that a sheep dip kind of operation needs to occur, followed by the final trip on the magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands. This includes you - so called true red brightonian. onedaytheleftwillburn

4:14pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

Were any of these "March for England" people from Brighton? They all seem to have come by train for a day out.

I am saddened that there was trouble at the March and if this was antis then it takes away from what appears to be a resounding rejection by so many people.

I still think that there should be a counter march next year to celebrate the openess, tolorence and diversity that typifies the majority of English people. I would be up for that. It could take a slightly different route leaving the other march with empty streets. It would be the carnival versus the thugs.
Were any of these "March for England" people from Brighton? They all seem to have come by train for a day out. I am saddened that there was trouble at the March and if this was antis then it takes away from what appears to be a resounding rejection by so many people. I still think that there should be a counter march next year to celebrate the openess, tolorence and diversity that typifies the majority of English people. I would be up for that. It could take a slightly different route leaving the other march with empty streets. It would be the carnival versus the thugs. HJarrs

4:16pm Sun 22 Apr 12

john5001 says...

not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows
not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows john5001

4:19pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Unbias says...

dreamseller22 wrote:
Oh and by the way, if you don't like immigrants- go work for £5 an hour, 12 hours a day yourself. No? Don't want to? I know a lot of people who have immigrated to this country to do just that. I'm british, born and bred, and if people wanna come over to this country, work hard and make their contributions to this society then I say go right ahead. Because a lot of british people dont even do that.
Half don't contibute (figure plucked from my head), and if we abided by that we wouldn't ever progress...

Our job's are taken away.
[quote][p][bold]dreamseller22[/bold] wrote: Oh and by the way, if you don't like immigrants- go work for £5 an hour, 12 hours a day yourself. No? Don't want to? I know a lot of people who have immigrated to this country to do just that. I'm british, born and bred, and if people wanna come over to this country, work hard and make their contributions to this society then I say go right ahead. Because a lot of british people dont even do that.[/p][/quote]Half don't contibute (figure plucked from my head), and if we abided by that we wouldn't ever progress... Our job's are taken away. Unbias

4:20pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

john5001 wrote:
not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows
Looks like the "real" English men were there in numbers to reject the "March for England" extremists. I liked the comment about shoppers shouting abuse at the march, thats so funny.
[quote][p][bold]john5001[/bold] wrote: not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows[/p][/quote]Looks like the "real" English men were there in numbers to reject the "March for England" extremists. I liked the comment about shoppers shouting abuse at the march, thats so funny. HJarrs

4:22pm Sun 22 Apr 12

true-brightonian says...

@onedaytheleftwillbu
rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.
@onedaytheleftwillbu rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi. true-brightonian

4:29pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Saltdean Resident says...

Just one look at the MFE facebook page and website show's that this was never going to be a St George's Day out. Half the pictures on the website are of football top wearing skin heads drinking beer. Very proud to see the people of Brighton out in full force to show them they are not welcome, most are not even from Brighton and i cant see why the organsier cant do it next year in his home town of Portsmouth. I think they got the message this year, if it goes ahead next year no doubt there will be an even bigger turn out to tell this pathetic bunch of so called patriots to go home, they are not welcome. Happy St George's day tomorrow.
Just one look at the MFE facebook page and website show's that this was never going to be a St George's Day out. Half the pictures on the website are of football top wearing skin heads drinking beer. Very proud to see the people of Brighton out in full force to show them they are not welcome, most are not even from Brighton and i cant see why the organsier cant do it next year in his home town of Portsmouth. I think they got the message this year, if it goes ahead next year no doubt there will be an even bigger turn out to tell this pathetic bunch of so called patriots to go home, they are not welcome. Happy St George's day tomorrow. Saltdean Resident

4:38pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

onedaytheleftwillbur
n
wrote:
longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
[quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. . Fight Back

4:47pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Unbias says...

HJarrs wrote:
john5001 wrote: not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows
Looks like the "real" English men were there in numbers to reject the "March for England" extremists. I liked the comment about shoppers shouting abuse at the march, thats so funny.
So are they not just as bad?...

My username is unbias.......that quote is a bias comment!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john5001[/bold] wrote: not enough English men in brighton ,it really shows[/p][/quote]Looks like the "real" English men were there in numbers to reject the "March for England" extremists. I liked the comment about shoppers shouting abuse at the march, thats so funny.[/p][/quote]So are they not just as bad?... My username is unbias.......that quote is a bias comment! Unbias

5:11pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur

n
wrote:
longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance. onedaytheleftwillburn

5:14pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Margaret Thatcher sold off the UK and if you google thatcher and Abu hamza you will also learn all about the right wing opening the gates to extreme immigration.
If it wasn't nailed down the right sold it off including council homes. Thatcher even imported Zola budd to compete for the uk in the Olympics.
There is nothing the right would not do to win something or make cash.
Margaret Thatcher sold off the UK and if you google thatcher and Abu hamza you will also learn all about the right wing opening the gates to extreme immigration. If it wasn't nailed down the right sold it off including council homes. Thatcher even imported Zola budd to compete for the uk in the Olympics. There is nothing the right would not do to win something or make cash. Maxwell's Ghost

5:15pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

true-brightonian wrote:
@onedaytheleftwillbu

rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.
I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: @onedaytheleftwillbu rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.[/p][/quote]I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer. onedaytheleftwillburn

5:21pm Sun 22 Apr 12

DougM says...

onedaytheleftwillbur
n
wrote:
true-brightonian wrote:
@onedaytheleftwillbu


rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.
I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.
You're a bit special aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: @onedaytheleftwillbu rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.[/p][/quote]I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.[/p][/quote]You're a bit special aren't you? DougM

5:25pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

DougM wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur

n
wrote:
true-brightonian wrote:
@onedaytheleftwillbu



rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.
I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.
You're a bit special aren't you?
I think so, I think we are all special in our own way - thanks for the support.
[quote][p][bold]DougM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: @onedaytheleftwillbu rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.[/p][/quote]I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.[/p][/quote]You're a bit special aren't you?[/p][/quote]I think so, I think we are all special in our own way - thanks for the support. onedaytheleftwillburn

5:29pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

onedaytheleftwillbur
n
wrote:
true-brightonian wrote:
@onedaytheleftwillbu


rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.
I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.
What a strange and deluded
world you live in. I hate to break it to you, but everyone bar LordmuppetofEngland are far to the left of you.

Ordinary people must always make sure that people with your repugnant views remain out of power and away from guns. Extreme left or right; really it is just meglomaniac phsycopaths.
[quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: @onedaytheleftwillbu rn "magical mystery fun truck to the neverlands"? Is that what the EDL call the gas chambers these days? I should have guessed from your username that you were an unrepentant Nazi.[/p][/quote]I have booked you a ticket. I guess as a socialist you would prefer a plastic bag on the face like the Cambodians or simply a bayonet through the stomach like the oppressed during Stalin's days. Oh yes the left is so great and its for the people don't you know. That is as long as they like fat socialists who say one thing and do another whilst the mass suffer.[/p][/quote]What a strange and deluded world you live in. I hate to break it to you, but everyone bar LordmuppetofEngland are far to the left of you. Ordinary people must always make sure that people with your repugnant views remain out of power and away from guns. Extreme left or right; really it is just meglomaniac phsycopaths. HJarrs

5:33pm Sun 22 Apr 12

PorkBoat says...

"Unite Against Fascism". Oh the irony. Check out their vice chairman. Nice chap.
"Unite Against Fascism". Oh the irony. Check out their vice chairman. Nice chap. PorkBoat

5:42pm Sun 22 Apr 12

longman says...

Total and utter idiots. 'England for the English', 'My father fought in the war for this' (as did the Poles, the Free French, the Canadians etc), stupid mantra. All a darn site braver than the stupid idiots who were out causing trouble today. If there was to be a world war right now, I doubt any of them would be brave enough to put themselves forward to fight for the UK! As for being 'indigenous British', if they look back at their own family trees and they will find that they arent 'indigenous' British. Everyone here is an imigrant! Go away back to your rocks, crawl under and dont bother to come out again. Cowards!
Total and utter idiots. 'England for the English', 'My father fought in the war for this' (as did the Poles, the Free French, the Canadians etc), stupid mantra. All a darn site braver than the stupid idiots who were out causing trouble today. If there was to be a world war right now, I doubt any of them would be brave enough to put themselves forward to fight for the UK! As for being 'indigenous British', if they look back at their own family trees and they will find that they arent 'indigenous' British. Everyone here is an imigrant! Go away back to your rocks, crawl under and dont bother to come out again. Cowards! longman

5:43pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Andy R says...

The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today. Andy R

5:54pm Sun 22 Apr 12

leobrighton says...

Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
Were you really there?
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]Were you really there? leobrighton

5:54pm Sun 22 Apr 12

KarenT says...

We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down).

Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE.

As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!!

We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance!

The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing.

It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making.
We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down). Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE. As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!! We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance! The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing. It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making. KarenT

5:57pm Sun 22 Apr 12

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself. JHunty

5:57pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

onedaytheleftwillbur
n
wrote:
Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur


n
wrote:
longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.
[quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem. Fight Back

6:06pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur

n
wrote:
Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur



n
wrote:
longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.
Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.
[quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.[/p][/quote]Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone. onedaytheleftwillburn

6:10pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur

n
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Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur



n
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Fight Back wrote:
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n
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longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.
Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.
we need gaz scott to provide leadership, gaz where are you?
Gaz is up your Azz
[quote][p][bold]Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.[/p][/quote]Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.[/p][/quote]we need gaz scott to provide leadership, gaz where are you?[/p][/quote]Gaz is up your Azz onedaytheleftwillburn

6:15pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Andy R says...

leobrighton wrote:
Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
Were you really there?
Yep. For the whole time. Your point being......?
[quote][p][bold]leobrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]Were you really there?[/p][/quote]Yep. For the whole time. Your point being......? Andy R

6:17pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

onedaytheleftwillbur
n
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Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur


n
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Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur




n
wrote:
longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.
Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.
So EXACTLY where do you stand on todays march then ? A march carried out by the fascist right heckled by the looney left. Perhaps next year both sides could find a field somewhere remote and just kick seven bells out of each other. It would certainly save on police costs and prevent the farce the city saw today.
[quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.[/p][/quote]Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.[/p][/quote]So EXACTLY where do you stand on todays march then ? A march carried out by the fascist right heckled by the looney left. Perhaps next year both sides could find a field somewhere remote and just kick seven bells out of each other. It would certainly save on police costs and prevent the farce the city saw today. Fight Back

6:20pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Andy R says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.
That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.[/p][/quote]That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today. Andy R

6:26pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur

n
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Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur



n
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Fight Back wrote:
onedaytheleftwillbur





n
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longman wrote:
............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton!
What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.
And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s.

The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance.

.
Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.
I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.
Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.
So EXACTLY where do you stand on todays march then ? A march carried out by the fascist right heckled by the looney left. Perhaps next year both sides could find a field somewhere remote and just kick seven bells out of each other. It would certainly save on police costs and prevent the farce the city saw today.
Sounds good - I'm in - but the grass drinking bean sprout sucking left would have to agree to bathing prior to the meeting though as ticks and fleas are just not nice. Only if they have running water in their squats though, we are reasonable.
[quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onedaytheleftwillbur n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longman[/bold] wrote: ............ meanwhile, in London, people are watching others run to raise money for all sorts of different charities. Also, there is a Remembrance ceremony for the 6 million plus who were murdered by the Nazis. I know who the real citizens or the UK are and its not the morons marching in Brighton![/p][/quote]What about a ceremony for the countless killed in socialist Cambodia and the 20 mill + killed by Lenin - all of a sudden the right seems quite mild in comparison to the damage caused by the left.[/p][/quote]And equally the left would have seemed quite mild to the German and Polish Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. The extreme right such as you are as equally repugnant as the extreme left. Well done for hitting triple figures on the march attendance. .[/p][/quote]Hang on are you saying that the Germans killed more people than Stalin? - mate you are thicker than you at first seem - read some history books will you instead of showing your pure ignorance.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest you need to learn to read what people post. Where did I say the Nazis killed more people that Stalin ? I wasn't aware that it was a competition. Both Stalin and Hitler were despicable, sub-human murderers. Extremism in any form should be rejected and shown for what it really is - bigotry and hatred. You seem somewhat confused - first you blamed the Muslims for the "problem" you and your knuckledragging friends believe we have in this country and now you're blaming "the left". You might want to look closer to home for the problem.[/p][/quote]Hang on - now you might wish to read my post, I never mentioned anything about muslims or a problem - just sit down take a minute and relax - thats it count to ten. - good boy - now go fetch a bone.[/p][/quote]So EXACTLY where do you stand on todays march then ? A march carried out by the fascist right heckled by the looney left. Perhaps next year both sides could find a field somewhere remote and just kick seven bells out of each other. It would certainly save on police costs and prevent the farce the city saw today.[/p][/quote]Sounds good - I'm in - but the grass drinking bean sprout sucking left would have to agree to bathing prior to the meeting though as ticks and fleas are just not nice. Only if they have running water in their squats though, we are reasonable. onedaytheleftwillburn

6:27pm Sun 22 Apr 12

jamie-hove says...

When I drove past a couple of hours ago I saw a couple of hundred (if that) thuggish looking flag wavers just loving the attention that they were getting - meanwhile tens of thousands of pounds of our tax that should be spent on the infrastructure of our crumbling town is wasted on the massive police presence and the locals and visitors have their day and business disrupted. And why? So that a bunch of dimwitted, unthinking attention seekers can go for a pointless march that will achieve nothing and use it as an excuse for vandalism and intimidation. Why on earth chose Brighton - not exactly a town know for a large immigrant population and one that is very happy in it's diversity? Maybe the marchers are mainly men who would secretly love to go to the rougher gay clubs in London but can't summon up the courage and so have a sneaky gay day out with all their other brave skin mates ....
When I drove past a couple of hours ago I saw a couple of hundred (if that) thuggish looking flag wavers just loving the attention that they were getting - meanwhile tens of thousands of pounds of our tax that should be spent on the infrastructure of our crumbling town is wasted on the massive police presence and the locals and visitors have their day and business disrupted. And why? So that a bunch of dimwitted, unthinking attention seekers can go for a pointless march that will achieve nothing and use it as an excuse for vandalism and intimidation. Why on earth chose Brighton - not exactly a town know for a large immigrant population and one that is very happy in it's diversity? Maybe the marchers are mainly men who would secretly love to go to the rougher gay clubs in London but can't summon up the courage and so have a sneaky gay day out with all their other brave skin mates .... jamie-hove

6:28pm Sun 22 Apr 12

gordongull says...

turtling. wrote:
Everyone is entitled to their views. The extremists on both sides might be taken a bit more seriously if they took more care of their appearance and put forward intelligent, thought-provoking argument. Instead we're presented with numbskulls in their brain-dead uniform, shaven or short hair, boots and the older ones with tatoos and pot bellies. On the other side, long haired soap dodgers whose stench of B O assaults your senses......cretins
What you see is what you get.
[quote][p][bold]turtling.[/bold] wrote: Everyone is entitled to their views. The extremists on both sides might be taken a bit more seriously if they took more care of their appearance and put forward intelligent, thought-provoking argument. Instead we're presented with numbskulls in their brain-dead uniform, shaven or short hair, boots and the older ones with tatoos and pot bellies. On the other side, long haired soap dodgers whose stench of B O assaults your senses......cretins[/p][/quote]What you see is what you get. gordongull

6:29pm Sun 22 Apr 12

John Steed says...

all sorts of trash visit brighton for what ever diverse reason, why russel brand was in town only the otherday, best way to deal with them, ignore them they will get bored and go pollute the streets elsewhere.
all sorts of trash visit brighton for what ever diverse reason, why russel brand was in town only the otherday, best way to deal with them, ignore them they will get bored and go pollute the streets elsewhere. John Steed

6:30pm Sun 22 Apr 12

yummysteak says...

Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions,freedom of speech and all that,when I asked "what does the England flag mean to you?" I was met with "f*** you, you c***." hmmm,i say no more. I wonder where all those hardcore protestors are now,in the pub probably,drinking Stella,whilst smoking a Richmond superking.toodle pip..
Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions,freedom of speech and all that,when I asked "what does the England flag mean to you?" I was met with "f*** you, you c***." hmmm,i say no more. I wonder where all those hardcore protestors are now,in the pub probably,drinking Stella,whilst smoking a Richmond superking.toodle pip.. yummysteak

6:40pm Sun 22 Apr 12

onedaytheleftwillburn says...

Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not wrote:
yummysteak wrote:
Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions,freedom of speech and all that,when I asked "what does the England flag mean to you?" I was met with "f*** you, you c***." hmmm,i say no more. I wonder where all those hardcore protestors are now,in the pub probably,drinking Stella,whilst smoking a Richmond superking.toodle pip..
Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions, freedom of speech and all that,when I asked, why are you asking stupid questions yummysteak, i received no response, gaz scott where are you when we need you?
I already told you Gaz is up your Azz - nuff said
[quote][p][bold]Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yummysteak[/bold] wrote: Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions,freedom of speech and all that,when I asked "what does the England flag mean to you?" I was met with "f*** you, you c***." hmmm,i say no more. I wonder where all those hardcore protestors are now,in the pub probably,drinking Stella,whilst smoking a Richmond superking.toodle pip..[/p][/quote]Proud of my city too. I also turned up to ask then some serious questions, freedom of speech and all that,when I asked, why are you asking stupid questions yummysteak, i received no response, gaz scott where are you when we need you?[/p][/quote]I already told you Gaz is up your Azz - nuff said onedaytheleftwillburn

6:43pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Robbadob says...

It was a poor decision by Sussex Police to have the march in the middle of town. I saw last years march and with two helicopters and three hundred plus police the operation would've cost between £500- 750 thousand based on published figures for other policing operations. From reports so far probably about the same today. We are in a recession and to me this seems like a huge waste of money. I'm very much in favour of free speech but that's a long way from free
It was a poor decision by Sussex Police to have the march in the middle of town. I saw last years march and with two helicopters and three hundred plus police the operation would've cost between £500- 750 thousand based on published figures for other policing operations. From reports so far probably about the same today. We are in a recession and to me this seems like a huge waste of money. I'm very much in favour of free speech but that's a long way from free Robbadob

6:57pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

While you were all fighting, a Chinese bank bought your pension fund, an Australian hedge fund bought your leccu company and another foreign footy player just scored a winning goal for your team.
You cannot stop the world from turning EDL. Your mothers and fathers sold off the UK and every time you shop, save, watch sport or breathe, it's all thanks to the global market.
Sold off thanks to the right wing.
The flags you waved were probably made in china.
While you were all fighting, a Chinese bank bought your pension fund, an Australian hedge fund bought your leccu company and another foreign footy player just scored a winning goal for your team. You cannot stop the world from turning EDL. Your mothers and fathers sold off the UK and every time you shop, save, watch sport or breathe, it's all thanks to the global market. Sold off thanks to the right wing. The flags you waved were probably made in china. Maxwell's Ghost

7:11pm Sun 22 Apr 12

fedupwithgreens says...

btonbazz wrote:
It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?
Couldnt of been lucas,thought she was test driving her new ufo!!!
[quote][p][bold]btonbazz[/bold] wrote: It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?[/p][/quote]Couldnt of been lucas,thought she was test driving her new ufo!!! fedupwithgreens

7:39pm Sun 22 Apr 12

AmboGuy says...

And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march! AmboGuy

7:39pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Chiquila says...

fedupwithgreens wrote:
btonbazz wrote:
It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?
Couldnt of been lucas,thought she was test driving her new ufo!!!
blatant tory /ex tory councillor you are
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithgreens[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]btonbazz[/bold] wrote: It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?[/p][/quote]Couldnt of been lucas,thought she was test driving her new ufo!!![/p][/quote]blatant tory /ex tory councillor you are Chiquila

7:41pm Sun 22 Apr 12

god does not exist says...

These Left wing types are nothing unless they have a Police presence, I was at the Home office last week and I confronted the UAF on my own, Weyman Bennett just Mumbled a lot, Smith would not even come near me as for the rest of them they seemed lost for words, the Police asked me to move in the end. 1 v 20 when the demo started they all changed their tune and started acting hard but who cares they soon jogged on and we owned Westminster that day. All I can say to you lefties is keep a low profile because when we say Smash the Anti Fash we mean it.
These Left wing types are nothing unless they have a Police presence, I was at the Home office last week and I confronted the UAF on my own, Weyman Bennett just Mumbled a lot, Smith would not even come near me as for the rest of them they seemed lost for words, the Police asked me to move in the end. 1 v 20 when the demo started they all changed their tune and started acting hard but who cares they soon jogged on and we owned Westminster that day. All I can say to you lefties is keep a low profile because when we say Smash the Anti Fash we mean it. god does not exist

7:46pm Sun 22 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Back on your hobby-horse Ambo? gaz scott

7:46pm Sun 22 Apr 12

SicklySeagull says...

Just a thought I hope our Scouts,cubs etc were marching today for St GEORGES DAY.
Just a thought I hope our Scouts,cubs etc were marching today for St GEORGES DAY. SicklySeagull

7:56pm Sun 22 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

Excuse me for butting in but ... isn't the 23rd of April St. George's day?
Excuse me for butting in but ... isn't the 23rd of April St. George's day? mimseycal

7:56pm Sun 22 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not wrote:
KarenT wrote:
We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down).

Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE.

As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!!

We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance!

The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing.

It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making.
You are clearly gaz scott
Maybe it's time to consider two tablets twice a day.
[quote][p][bold]Gazzer Scott, Bright I'm Not[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down). Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE. As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!! We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance! The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing. It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making.[/p][/quote]You are clearly gaz scott[/p][/quote]Maybe it's time to consider two tablets twice a day. gaz scott

8:10pm Sun 22 Apr 12

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.
That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today.
Andy R for you to claim that "the city turned out" and that they were "harried all the way by thousands" flies in the face of the facts, it is clearly yourself who is delusional. I should think that by next week you will be telling us how you led an army of 10,000 against Hitlers clone and his army of zombie nazis. If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man and you are as full of it as those who have told me those tall stories are.
Ill type slowly so you can understand better....

The city did not turn out,
Thousands of people did not turn up

You are making things up to show off.

You are not the only person who was there you dont have a monopoly on the truth and the evidence is against your wild claims.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.[/p][/quote]That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]Andy R for you to claim that "the city turned out" and that they were "harried all the way by thousands" flies in the face of the facts, it is clearly yourself who is delusional. I should think that by next week you will be telling us how you led an army of 10,000 against Hitlers clone and his army of zombie nazis. If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man and you are as full of it as those who have told me those tall stories are. Ill type slowly so you can understand better.... The city did not turn out, Thousands of people did not turn up You are making things up to show off. You are not the only person who was there you dont have a monopoly on the truth and the evidence is against your wild claims. JHunty

8:24pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Indigatio says...

I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country.

Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second.

What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride.

There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are.

1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers.

2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement.

3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters.

I could go on with other examples but won’t.
I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country. Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second. What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride. There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are. 1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers. 2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement. 3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters. I could go on with other examples but won’t. Indigatio

8:31pm Sun 22 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.
As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.
That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today.
Andy R for you to claim that "the city turned out" and that they were "harried all the way by thousands" flies in the face of the facts, it is clearly yourself who is delusional. I should think that by next week you will be telling us how you led an army of 10,000 against Hitlers clone and his army of zombie nazis. If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man and you are as full of it as those who have told me those tall stories are.
Ill type slowly so you can understand better....

The city did not turn out,
Thousands of people did not turn up

You are making things up to show off.

You are not the only person who was there you dont have a monopoly on the truth and the evidence is against your wild claims.
"If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man"

Bloody hell. Would you? Sounds like an exaggeration to me or maybe even made up. But it's easy for you to get carried away I know.

So how many people have you really met who claimed they were at Cable Street?
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: The city turned out today to see off a tiny rabble of bigots. They were blocked and harried all the way by thousands. The shellshocked looks on their faces by the time they got to Victoria Gdns said it all. Really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]As usual you are living in a fantasy world. The city did not turn out, they were not harried by thousands of people. It comes as no surprise given your support for the thugs of smash edo that you are proud of bottles being thrown and policemen being hurt. Your hypocrisy is becoming more marked by the day. As usual you feel the need to exaggerate massively and to simply make things up in order to draw attention to yourself.[/p][/quote]That all you can come up with is the same old delusional refrain just caps the day off nicely. Like I said, really proud of my city today.[/p][/quote]Andy R for you to claim that "the city turned out" and that they were "harried all the way by thousands" flies in the face of the facts, it is clearly yourself who is delusional. I should think that by next week you will be telling us how you led an army of 10,000 against Hitlers clone and his army of zombie nazis. If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man and you are as full of it as those who have told me those tall stories are. Ill type slowly so you can understand better.... The city did not turn out, Thousands of people did not turn up You are making things up to show off. You are not the only person who was there you dont have a monopoly on the truth and the evidence is against your wild claims.[/p][/quote]"If I had a pound for every person who told me they were at Cable street fighting off Mosely I would be a rich man" Bloody hell. Would you? Sounds like an exaggeration to me or maybe even made up. But it's easy for you to get carried away I know. So how many people have you really met who claimed they were at Cable Street? gaz scott

8:39pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Indigatio what a silly comment as you have failed to list the white crimes.
Children in the UK are more likely to be raped and murdered by white males.
Women are more likely to be assaulted or murdered by white males.
Now this is why prisons containing criminals of all colours.
However, it shows that us men are a bloody nuisance no matter what our colour.
Perhaps it's time we stopped being so aggressive and let the women get on with it as we have fu**ed it up so far.
The Great War was supposed to be the war to end all wars and actually there's not been a day since where men have not been killing each other and today we see another day of violence.
Disgusting.
Indigatio what a silly comment as you have failed to list the white crimes. Children in the UK are more likely to be raped and murdered by white males. Women are more likely to be assaulted or murdered by white males. Now this is why prisons containing criminals of all colours. However, it shows that us men are a bloody nuisance no matter what our colour. Perhaps it's time we stopped being so aggressive and let the women get on with it as we have fu**ed it up so far. The Great War was supposed to be the war to end all wars and actually there's not been a day since where men have not been killing each other and today we see another day of violence. Disgusting. Maxwell's Ghost

8:41pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

Indigatio wrote:
I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country.

Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second.

What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride.

There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are.

1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers.

2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement.

3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters.

I could go on with other examples but won’t.
Most tax dodgers and tax fraudsters that deny the exchequer of tens of billions of £s every year are mostly white English, so what is your point exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country. Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second. What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride. There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are. 1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers. 2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement. 3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters. I could go on with other examples but won’t.[/p][/quote]Most tax dodgers and tax fraudsters that deny the exchequer of tens of billions of £s every year are mostly white English, so what is your point exactly? HJarrs

8:48pm Sun 22 Apr 12

hubby says...

So much hate!
You should be ashamed of yourselves if you are representative of true Brighton folk.
Hate solves nothing.
Only love can provide the answers.
So much hate! You should be ashamed of yourselves if you are representative of true Brighton folk. Hate solves nothing. Only love can provide the answers. hubby

8:49pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Indigatio what a silly comment as you have failed to list the white crimes.
Children in the UK are more likely to be raped and murdered by white males.
Women are more likely to be assaulted or murdered by white males.
Now this is why prisons containing criminals of all colours.
However, it shows that us men are a bloody nuisance no matter what our colour.
Perhaps it's time we stopped being so aggressive and let the women get on with it as we have fu**ed it up so far.
The Great War was supposed to be the war to end all wars and actually there's not been a day since where men have not been killing each other and today we see another day of violence.
Disgusting.
You have made some excellent comments in your posts on this thread, which get to the heart of some of the major structural problems in the UK today. Instead of addressing these the MfE supporters continue to make some quite horrifying and, in some cases physically threatening comments.

I particularly like your comment about men above. I will be pinching that one!
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Indigatio what a silly comment as you have failed to list the white crimes. Children in the UK are more likely to be raped and murdered by white males. Women are more likely to be assaulted or murdered by white males. Now this is why prisons containing criminals of all colours. However, it shows that us men are a bloody nuisance no matter what our colour. Perhaps it's time we stopped being so aggressive and let the women get on with it as we have fu**ed it up so far. The Great War was supposed to be the war to end all wars and actually there's not been a day since where men have not been killing each other and today we see another day of violence. Disgusting.[/p][/quote]You have made some excellent comments in your posts on this thread, which get to the heart of some of the major structural problems in the UK today. Instead of addressing these the MfE supporters continue to make some quite horrifying and, in some cases physically threatening comments. I particularly like your comment about men above. I will be pinching that one! HJarrs

8:56pm Sun 22 Apr 12

chris elmes says...

AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Reminds me of times past where one could pay a fee to St mary of Bethlehem hospital(Bedlam) to be entertained by the antics of the lunatics. This was more of the same sort of entertainment but held in public !
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Reminds me of times past where one could pay a fee to St mary of Bethlehem hospital(Bedlam) to be entertained by the antics of the lunatics. This was more of the same sort of entertainment but held in public ! chris elmes

9:32pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Sadly, HJarrs, looking at society, women seem to be leaving us blokes behind and getting tired of us.
Girls are excelling ahead of boys in schools, more women are choosing to 'leave' marriages than men, more women are conceiving kids without a full-time man being around and now the scientists have found a way of fertilising an ovum without a sperm, wemen could be fu**ed so to speak as a gender. You can even buy a sperm in a drive-by clinic.
While the world's women get on with improving themelves and the world, the men seem to be looking at the ground in the same old scuffles about the same old issues.
Fighting about immigrations has gone on for hundreds of years and it wont change as there hasn't been a white Britain for more than 1000 years.
We are making complete arses of ourselves while women leaders are taking more key roles in parliaments around the world.
Perhaps someone could write a sequel to George Orwell's 1984 in which women are Big Sister and not Big Brother.
Sadly, HJarrs, looking at society, women seem to be leaving us blokes behind and getting tired of us. Girls are excelling ahead of boys in schools, more women are choosing to 'leave' marriages than men, more women are conceiving kids without a full-time man being around and now the scientists have found a way of fertilising an ovum without a sperm, wemen could be fu**ed so to speak as a gender. You can even buy a sperm in a drive-by clinic. While the world's women get on with improving themelves and the world, the men seem to be looking at the ground in the same old scuffles about the same old issues. Fighting about immigrations has gone on for hundreds of years and it wont change as there hasn't been a white Britain for more than 1000 years. We are making complete arses of ourselves while women leaders are taking more key roles in parliaments around the world. Perhaps someone could write a sequel to George Orwell's 1984 in which women are Big Sister and not Big Brother. Maxwell's Ghost

9:46pm Sun 22 Apr 12

HJarrs says...

Whenever I hear people taking about being British I always wonder if they are suggesting that they take up the customs and language of the Britons that occupied the area south of the Picts in Scotland between the Iron age and the 5th century. If yes, they would need to brush up on their Brythonic celtish (that means learn Welsh!) and the English? That was named after the Angles and they were German...so take your pic Welsh or German.

And shouldn't we get rid of St George's Day? Why do we celebrate an Armenian Knight who made up a load of pony about killing dragons? Not exactly a flattering Saint to have your country named after.
Whenever I hear people taking about being British I always wonder if they are suggesting that they take up the customs and language of the Britons that occupied the area south of the Picts in Scotland between the Iron age and the 5th century. If yes, they would need to brush up on their Brythonic celtish (that means learn Welsh!) and the English? That was named after the Angles and they were German...so take your pic Welsh or German. And shouldn't we get rid of St George's Day? Why do we celebrate an Armenian Knight who made up a load of pony about killing dragons? Not exactly a flattering Saint to have your country named after. HJarrs

10:03pm Sun 22 Apr 12

khbrighton says...

PROUD PROUD PROUD to live in Brighton today, it is not about stopping free speech it is about us as a community showing that we will not tolerate racist scum in our town (City-before I get targeted by the pedantic police that patrol this board) and honestly some of these arguments up above are just ridiculous, google the EDL, they are fascists thru and thru, and don't give me the whole argument about unwashed soap dodgers just wanting to cause trouble as that was so not the case, normal hard working Brightonians that wanted to have a bit of a say on who roams around our city. Proud to live here today
PROUD PROUD PROUD to live in Brighton today, it is not about stopping free speech it is about us as a community showing that we will not tolerate racist scum in our town (City-before I get targeted by the pedantic police that patrol this board) and honestly some of these arguments up above are just ridiculous, google the EDL, they are fascists thru and thru, and don't give me the whole argument about unwashed soap dodgers just wanting to cause trouble as that was so not the case, normal hard working Brightonians that wanted to have a bit of a say on who roams around our city. Proud to live here today khbrighton

10:04pm Sun 22 Apr 12

AmboGuy says...

gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?
Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you?
The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?[/p][/quote]Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you? The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh? AmboGuy

10:10pm Sun 22 Apr 12

commentisfree says...

Dear Maxwell's Ghost, the voice of reason, please marry me.
Dear Maxwell's Ghost, the voice of reason, please marry me. commentisfree

10:28pm Sun 22 Apr 12

george smith says...

Small fry, protested cleared from the streets in Bahrain and one in five voted for the far right in France
Small fry, protested cleared from the streets in Bahrain and one in five voted for the far right in France george smith

10:39pm Sun 22 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists.

When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them.

The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany.


The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble.

The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups.

After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up.

The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation.

Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war. The Old Crippel

10:41pm Sun 22 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists.

When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them.

The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany.


The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble.

The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups.

After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up.

The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation.

Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war. The Old Crippel

10:56pm Sun 22 Apr 12

Johnboy123 says...

KarenT wrote:
We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down).

Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE.

As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!!

We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance!

The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing.

It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making.
Absolutely spot on.

The only fascists I saw today was the typical left wing soap dodgers who feel they have a right to cause havoc because they don't agree with someone else's views. This is fascism.

Please don't think these left wing fascists represent the whole of Brighton because they don't. The majority of Brighton do not condone anarchism and never will do.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: We attended the march today, just because we wanted to see what it was all about. We had heard that there was going to be some sort of rally at Victoria Gardens, with opposing sides giving speeches, which is what we were most interested in. There has been so much "speculation" about March for England, i.e. that they are part of the EDL, that they have a racist agenda, that their only goal is to spread racial hatred. We wanted to hear for ourselves what they had to say, just as we listened with interest when Nick Griffin spoke on Question Time (or at least "tried" to speak when he wasn't being shouted down). Let me say right now, we are not right wing or racist in any way. I am white and my husband is black, and our children are mixed race. We are all about inclusiveness and do not see skin colour. We believe in free speech and the freedom to pray/live however you wish, as long as you do not force your views down others throats. PEACE AND TOLERANCE. As far as we could see today, the real fascists were the anti's that turned up to heckle the marchers. Shouting them down, obstructing their passage, throwing eggs, trying to deny them their freedom of speech and their freedom to protest peacefully. Whilst many will claim that the protesters were aggressive, I can say that we followed the march from Brighton Station to Victoria Gardens, and all that we heard coming from them was ENGERLAND chants. That's it. We would have liked to hear more, to make up our own minds about what their agenda was, but they were shouted down and stifled by the anti's. The anti's seem to believe that we are not capable of making our own minds up, that their voice is the only voice, and that because they don't agree with what they believe is at the core of the marchers' agenda, that they should not be allowed to speak! Now THAT is fascism!!! We were standing alongside two Muslims along the barriers in Victoria Gardens, who we engaged in conversation with, and they held the same view as we did... that it's all about freedom of speech, which the marchers were being denied. We wanted to hear, with our OWN ears, what they had to say, but it never happened. If their agenda is indeed a thoroughly intolerant and hateful one, then they will hang themselves when they open their mouths. What the anti's were doing was completely defeatist, as all they managed to accomplish was to martyr the marchers, and demonstrate intolerance themselves. Now THAT is where the real danger lies. If they are not allowed to speak their purported hatred and nonsense, then their agenda remains silent, and the disaffected will flow en masse to the far right because they never have the opportunity to see that ugly side, if indeed it does exist. I say "if", because I didn't get the chance to hear with my own ears. Forgive me, but I like to make my own bloody mind up, and not have an opinion forced down my throat by arrogance! The anti's with their black face masks! WTF was that about? If you're not there to stir up trouble then why hide your face? It smacked more of some adolescent Che Guevaraesque fashion parade than anything else! Embarrassing. It was all a joke, and as has been pointed out, it was just two groups of fascists clashing, except one was shouted down by the other, through numbers, so we never really learned what their true agenda is. The last time I heard the chant, "There are more of us than you", I was in about 7 years old. CHILDREN the lot of 'em! Utterly cringe-making.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. The only fascists I saw today was the typical left wing soap dodgers who feel they have a right to cause havoc because they don't agree with someone else's views. This is fascism. Please don't think these left wing fascists represent the whole of Brighton because they don't. The majority of Brighton do not condone anarchism and never will do. Johnboy123

11:08pm Sun 22 Apr 12

A.P. says...

I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots.

No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them.

They have no place in Brighton.
I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots. No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them. They have no place in Brighton. A.P.

11:13pm Sun 22 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

AmboGuy wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?
Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you?
The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?
Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it?

Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet.
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?[/p][/quote]Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you? The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?[/p][/quote]Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it? Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet. gaz scott

11:53pm Sun 22 Apr 12

AmboGuy says...

gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?
Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you?
The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?
Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it?

Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet.
Absolutely pathetic. You don't like what the paper reports so it's some big conspiracy by The Argus to undermine SmashEDO then? Like I said sometimes the truth can be uncomfortable.
You might think you can pull the wool over peoples eyes but we now know that these same EDL thugs will be joining your lot.
You seem to want to keep the real truth from getting out - have you ever thought of becoming a political spin doctor?
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?[/p][/quote]Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you? The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?[/p][/quote]Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it? Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet.[/p][/quote]Absolutely pathetic. You don't like what the paper reports so it's some big conspiracy by The Argus to undermine SmashEDO then? Like I said sometimes the truth can be uncomfortable. You might think you can pull the wool over peoples eyes but we now know that these same EDL thugs will be joining your lot. You seem to want to keep the real truth from getting out - have you ever thought of becoming a political spin doctor? AmboGuy

12:03am Mon 23 Apr 12

Vigilia says...

btonbazz wrote:
It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?
Dear God, will this "ban the Bomb" woman stop at nothing to seek attention? I thought she and her ilk wanted Brighton & Hove to become a centre for demonstrations & protest.
She demeans the office of a member of Parliament.
[quote][p][bold]btonbazz[/bold] wrote: It was great to see local Brighton MP Caroline Lucas joining those of us lining the route of the EDL march and opposing their vile ideology and their attempt to stir up hatred on our streets. I didn't spot our other MP, Simon Kirby (Con, Kemp Town), but perhaps he was standing elsewhere?[/p][/quote]Dear God, will this "ban the Bomb" woman stop at nothing to seek attention? I thought she and her ilk wanted Brighton & Hove to become a centre for demonstrations & protest. She demeans the office of a member of Parliament. Vigilia

12:14am Mon 23 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

AmboGuy wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march!
Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?
Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you?
The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?
Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it?

Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet.
Absolutely pathetic. You don't like what the paper reports so it's some big conspiracy by The Argus to undermine SmashEDO then? Like I said sometimes the truth can be uncomfortable.
You might think you can pull the wool over peoples eyes but we now know that these same EDL thugs will be joining your lot.
You seem to want to keep the real truth from getting out - have you ever thought of becoming a political spin doctor?
I think you're getting a bit carried away by your own creation here. As for any "real truth getting out" what exactly is that truth?

You've made a fool of the Argus but I don't see anyone else here falling for your scam.

Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: And these are the same idiots who are coming to offer their 'support' for the SmashEDO march!!! Christ we're in trouble with 2 sets of thugs on one march![/p][/quote]Back on your hobby-horse Ambo?[/p][/quote]Sorry Gaz I know you don't like being reminded of this fact do you? The truth can sometimes be uncomfortable eh?[/p][/quote]Yea the truth of your fabricated left-right fantasy alliance really gets to me. How will I ever get through it? Still you might get another Argus front page out of it yet.[/p][/quote]Absolutely pathetic. You don't like what the paper reports so it's some big conspiracy by The Argus to undermine SmashEDO then? Like I said sometimes the truth can be uncomfortable. You might think you can pull the wool over peoples eyes but we now know that these same EDL thugs will be joining your lot. You seem to want to keep the real truth from getting out - have you ever thought of becoming a political spin doctor?[/p][/quote]I think you're getting a bit carried away by your own creation here. As for any "real truth getting out" what exactly is that truth? You've made a fool of the Argus but I don't see anyone else here falling for your scam. Idiot. gaz scott

12:28am Mon 23 Apr 12

Andy R says...

The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today.

And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you.

Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw.

Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.
[quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today. And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you. Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw. Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back. Andy R

1:38am Mon 23 Apr 12

Angryoldman says...

commentisfree wrote:
Dear Maxwell's Ghost, the voice of reason, please marry me.
Whats that brown mark on your nose?
[quote][p][bold]commentisfree[/bold] wrote: Dear Maxwell's Ghost, the voice of reason, please marry me.[/p][/quote]Whats that brown mark on your nose? Angryoldman

1:40am Mon 23 Apr 12

HamSandwich says...

I'm not part of any political group but as a Brightonian for twenty years I wanted to see what went on today. I saw hatred on both sides of the fence, but I could understand the hatred of the people protesting against the walking virus of bigotry that infested our city today. I now know what happened to all of the thick kids I went to school with ended up; draped in St George's flags, looking bewildered and for the first time in their lives actually happy the police were doing their work. I think overall the old bill did a good job in difficult circumtances. I don't condone the bottle throwing or the half-hearted nazi salutes I saw on either side, but I'm well chuffed the message was put across that B&H won't tolerate small minded scared morons with an uneducated view of where they fit in to our (let's face it it) less than perfect society. It was class, though, looking into the eyes of the unteachable just a few feet away and seeing fear of the anger of the masses as if they actually learnt something today. Free speech comes at a price; being able to self edit is a major factor in it's ingredient.
I'm not part of any political group but as a Brightonian for twenty years I wanted to see what went on today. I saw hatred on both sides of the fence, but I could understand the hatred of the people protesting against the walking virus of bigotry that infested our city today. I now know what happened to all of the thick kids I went to school with ended up; draped in St George's flags, looking bewildered and for the first time in their lives actually happy the police were doing their work. I think overall the old bill did a good job in difficult circumtances. I don't condone the bottle throwing or the half-hearted nazi salutes I saw on either side, but I'm well chuffed the message was put across that B&H won't tolerate small minded scared morons with an uneducated view of where they fit in to our (let's face it it) less than perfect society. It was class, though, looking into the eyes of the unteachable just a few feet away and seeing fear of the anger of the masses as if they actually learnt something today. Free speech comes at a price; being able to self edit is a major factor in it's ingredient. HamSandwich

3:36am Mon 23 Apr 12

Proquci says...

I have never been so sickened by the sights I witnessed by these so called anti-fascists, well, I cant call them that. All day we heard that these thugs called the UAF are actually paid thugs receiving government funding and fully supported by the unions. It has turned my gut. Albeit, I do not agree with everything with the March for England, that is far from my gripe. My horror is these far left fascists, they are not anti fascist, they are the true fascists who scream and shout, hurl bricks and bottles and women and children. It is a sickening sight and a horror to witness.
I have read some of the above comments and it only sickens me further that these quite obvious antagonists and activists have absolutely no respect from this Nation, or, they would be actually opposing islamic sharia and the quite obvious and purposeful mass immigration from OUTSIDE the EU and from predominantly islamic fundemantalist Nations. This was purposeful and treacherous.
I am young in comparison and do not remember the war, however, I know my history and I can quite evidently see clearly in front of the massive and huge agenda by the far left to crush these most beautiful islands with a mass immigration, socially engineering our communities from within.. No one asked for that, no one voted for that. That was a disgusting and traitorous "policy" of the Labour government and we can all witness the results.
Brighton is a great mix and melting pot for sure. However, the posts I witness here about immigrants working and English folk not getting up off their backsides is again a sick sight.. I just cannot believe the lack of vision and education some folk have.
Cannot you see what is staring right at you in front of your very own eyes? The removal of border controls and immigration checks continues. Illegals, yes, illegals are not deported. Criminals even when released from prison who are supposed to be deported are yet again, left to roam OUR streets.
I am so proud of Britain and especially England, for I am English by the Grace of God. However I am horrified that we now will experience sharia operated Boroughs up and down the Country, and let us be clear, completely supported by the left wing marxist fascists. Because that is exactly what you are. Fascists hiding behind masks, throwing missiles at innocent people, creating chaos, attacking the Police. Shame on each and every single one of you.
islamic sharia is a direct threat to Britain and her people and I, as a man who grew up in the Middle East can see the formation quite clearly, its not hidden, it is there in plain sight and drawing the Country and her people to a horrible horrible conflict. I have absolutely no doubts about this and no doubts whatsoever, this is ecatly what these marxists want.
To hear folk like Red Ken state he will make London and beacon of islam and sharia should tell us everything we need to know....
you all make me sick, I cannot beleive what I witnessed.
I have never been so sickened by the sights I witnessed by these so called anti-fascists, well, I cant call them that. All day we heard that these thugs called the UAF are actually paid thugs receiving government funding and fully supported by the unions. It has turned my gut. Albeit, I do not agree with everything with the March for England, that is far from my gripe. My horror is these far left fascists, they are not anti fascist, they are the true fascists who scream and shout, hurl bricks and bottles and women and children. It is a sickening sight and a horror to witness. I have read some of the above comments and it only sickens me further that these quite obvious antagonists and activists have absolutely no respect from this Nation, or, they would be actually opposing islamic sharia and the quite obvious and purposeful mass immigration from OUTSIDE the EU and from predominantly islamic fundemantalist Nations. This was purposeful and treacherous. I am young in comparison and do not remember the war, however, I know my history and I can quite evidently see clearly in front of the massive and huge agenda by the far left to crush these most beautiful islands with a mass immigration, socially engineering our communities from within.. No one asked for that, no one voted for that. That was a disgusting and traitorous "policy" of the Labour government and we can all witness the results. Brighton is a great mix and melting pot for sure. However, the posts I witness here about immigrants working and English folk not getting up off their backsides is again a sick sight.. I just cannot believe the lack of vision and education some folk have. Cannot you see what is staring right at you in front of your very own eyes? The removal of border controls and immigration checks continues. Illegals, yes, illegals are not deported. Criminals even when released from prison who are supposed to be deported are yet again, left to roam OUR streets. I am so proud of Britain and especially England, for I am English by the Grace of God. However I am horrified that we now will experience sharia operated Boroughs up and down the Country, and let us be clear, completely supported by the left wing marxist fascists. Because that is exactly what you are. Fascists hiding behind masks, throwing missiles at innocent people, creating chaos, attacking the Police. Shame on each and every single one of you. islamic sharia is a direct threat to Britain and her people and I, as a man who grew up in the Middle East can see the formation quite clearly, its not hidden, it is there in plain sight and drawing the Country and her people to a horrible horrible conflict. I have absolutely no doubts about this and no doubts whatsoever, this is ecatly what these marxists want. To hear folk like Red Ken state he will make London and beacon of islam and sharia should tell us everything we need to know.... you all make me sick, I cannot beleive what I witnessed. Proquci

4:16am Mon 23 Apr 12

HamSandwich says...

Ah, you want to get out more. When your balls drop, you'll understand how society works. I'm laughing as I write this, btw.
Ah, you want to get out more. When your balls drop, you'll understand how society works. I'm laughing as I write this, btw. HamSandwich

4:16am Mon 23 Apr 12

HamSandwich says...

Ah, you want to get out more. When your balls drop, you'll understand how society works. I'm laughing as I write this, btw.
Ah, you want to get out more. When your balls drop, you'll understand how society works. I'm laughing as I write this, btw. HamSandwich

4:39am Mon 23 Apr 12

willy harris says...

Magic4Fact wrote:
lordenglandofsussex wrote:
John H. West wrote:
Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us.

"Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."
There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist.

You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are.

This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee.

I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point.
Let me get this straight...

You're accusing people of being hypocrites.

Then you say it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist.

Then you brand Muslims who fly the flag as racist.

I think it's time you dusted off the dictionary to look up the meaning of "hypocrisy"...
i suggest you get your spelling book out! HYPOCRYSY???. WOT NO PEE,
[quote][p][bold]Magic4Fact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lordenglandofsussex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John H. West[/bold] wrote: Depressing to have fascists walk our streets. I know all of us in Brighton will give them the welcome they deserve - same one these out of town losers get every year. My dad fought the fascists back in the 40s, I'll be going down to do the same with my family today. That is the real British spirit to be proud of us. "Who do you think you're kidding mr hitler..."[/p][/quote]There may indeed be some extreme fascists among those walking but most I'm sure are just trying to make the point that flying the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist. You see, your comment only underlines your hypocrisy. Were they Muslims marching with black or green flags then you would no doubt stay away and not label them as fascists or racists which in fact is exactly what they are. This kind of hypocrisy is wearing thin and people are beginning to smell the coffee. I hope many pensioners will attend to make that point.[/p][/quote]Let me get this straight... You're accusing people of being hypocrites. Then you say it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist. Then you brand Muslims who fly the flag as racist. I think it's time you dusted off the dictionary to look up the meaning of "hypocrisy"...[/p][/quote]i suggest you get your spelling book out! HYPOCRYSY???. WOT NO PEE, willy harris

6:53am Mon 23 Apr 12

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today.

And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you.

Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw.

Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.
No one was bussed in? Sorry Andy but if you had read some of the twitter feeds you would have seen quite clearly that actually a lot of your supporters didnt come from Brighton, hence all their talk about heading back to the station to go home.

You lot actually made the EDL look good.

The opposition was not just local people, as I said before you are all ready inventing your own myths about this day, no doubt by next week you will be telling us all how you fought at Cable st....

Funny how when people complain about your thuggish mates in SmashEdo you defend them and their right to protest, but when you dont agree with someone you are happy to use violence to stop them exercising their democratic rights. Or are you now willing to condemn the violence that the UAF and your mates from SmashEdo started?

As for Caroline Lucas, were you part of her body guard? Did you whisk her off to a safe house in Brussels at the first sign of trouble?
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today. And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you. Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw. Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.[/p][/quote]No one was bussed in? Sorry Andy but if you had read some of the twitter feeds you would have seen quite clearly that actually a lot of your supporters didnt come from Brighton, hence all their talk about heading back to the station to go home. You lot actually made the EDL look good. The opposition was not just local people, as I said before you are all ready inventing your own myths about this day, no doubt by next week you will be telling us all how you fought at Cable st.... Funny how when people complain about your thuggish mates in SmashEdo you defend them and their right to protest, but when you dont agree with someone you are happy to use violence to stop them exercising their democratic rights. Or are you now willing to condemn the violence that the UAF and your mates from SmashEdo started? As for Caroline Lucas, were you part of her body guard? Did you whisk her off to a safe house in Brussels at the first sign of trouble? JHunty

7:26am Mon 23 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

And this is the real trouble with movements such as the anti-Fascists and the like.
Muddying the waters ...

I've been reading the twitters. Most of them from a bunch of over-hyped kids on some sort of mission to 'save the world' ... accusations of pepper-spraying, police brutality and heaven only knows what.

You are right ... they did make the MfE lot look good. We would have been better off if they could just leave off the counter-demonstratio
ns. Let the MfE have their pathetic little march and their rally with speeches. Ignoring them would withhold the publicity they crave.
And this is the real trouble with movements such as the anti-Fascists and the like. Muddying the waters ... I've been reading the twitters. Most of them from a bunch of over-hyped kids on some sort of mission to 'save the world' ... accusations of pepper-spraying, police brutality and heaven only knows what. You are right ... they did make the MfE lot look good. We would have been better off if they could just leave off the counter-demonstratio ns. Let the MfE have their pathetic little march and their rally with speeches. Ignoring them would withhold the publicity they crave. mimseycal

7:39am Mon 23 Apr 12

tinkle34 says...

HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!!
HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!! tinkle34

7:50am Mon 23 Apr 12

jamie-hove says...

tinkle34 wrote:
HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!!
You wil be back next year? why? to achieve what? other than allowing your sad attention seeking ego a day out with the other fascists on parade. All that this achieved was disruption for the town's visitors and businesses and a policing bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds that would have been better spent on the many urgent needs of the community. Your fake piousness is as nauseating as it is hypocritical. The "march" had no aims, mo point and made no difference so why don't you just all go and play with your x-boxes, or write on your blogs or chant in your pubs and understand that not only do the vast vast majority of people not want you disrupting the life of the town but they hold you in utter contempt.
[quote][p][bold]tinkle34[/bold] wrote: HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!![/p][/quote]You wil be back next year? why? to achieve what? other than allowing your sad attention seeking ego a day out with the other fascists on parade. All that this achieved was disruption for the town's visitors and businesses and a policing bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds that would have been better spent on the many urgent needs of the community. Your fake piousness is as nauseating as it is hypocritical. The "march" had no aims, mo point and made no difference so why don't you just all go and play with your x-boxes, or write on your blogs or chant in your pubs and understand that not only do the vast vast majority of people not want you disrupting the life of the town but they hold you in utter contempt. jamie-hove

7:51am Mon 23 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

And now we will no doubt start a whole series of accusations and counter accusations.
And now we will no doubt start a whole series of accusations and counter accusations. mimseycal

8:33am Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

A.P. wrote:
I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots.

No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them.

They have no place in Brighton.
Yes AP i bet you do wish that, it’s what you Neo Nazi’s want, stop anyone saying anything you don't like.

The only reason people like you have the right to scream your hatred in the street is because of people like me who gave up our youth to defend your right to free speech.

I will rot in hell long before I will give you and your fascist friends (Who are masquerading as Anti-Fascists) the right to take those freedoms away from me.
[quote][p][bold]A.P.[/bold] wrote: I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots. No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them. They have no place in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Yes AP i bet you do wish that, it’s what you Neo Nazi’s want, stop anyone saying anything you don't like. The only reason people like you have the right to scream your hatred in the street is because of people like me who gave up our youth to defend your right to free speech. I will rot in hell long before I will give you and your fascist friends (Who are masquerading as Anti-Fascists) the right to take those freedoms away from me. The Old Crippel

8:43am Mon 23 Apr 12

spider72 says...

Have never seen such a bunch of idiots opposing a march that they don't understand. I am proud to be English and don't see why I should not be.
At no stage did I abuse anyone, yet I was called a racist, and far worse.
Get off our streets, get out of our town, your town don't make me laugh, I was born and bread here I'm afraid.
Still must make you feel really big hiding in a crowd with masks on and throwing bottles!!!
Next time let's see your faces if you have got any balls, which we all know you haven't
Have never seen such a bunch of idiots opposing a march that they don't understand. I am proud to be English and don't see why I should not be. At no stage did I abuse anyone, yet I was called a racist, and far worse. Get off our streets, get out of our town, your town don't make me laugh, I was born and bread here I'm afraid. Still must make you feel really big hiding in a crowd with masks on and throwing bottles!!! Next time let's see your faces if you have got any balls, which we all know you haven't spider72

8:49am Mon 23 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

it must be terribly disappointing for a troll when the person they are goading doesn't respond. Is it, bladesboy ?
it must be terribly disappointing for a troll when the person they are goading doesn't respond. Is it, bladesboy ? All 9 of me

9:04am Mon 23 Apr 12

Morpheus says...

What's England?
What's England? Morpheus

9:08am Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

Andy R wrote:
The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today.

And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you.

Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw.

Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.
Andy R,

1st that crowed of baying thugs were not all from Brighton and yes there were people on the March for St. George who do not live in Brighton ether, however I am local and I do remember when I was younger and taking part in Hunt sabs when the huntsmen told us we had no right to protest because we were townies but that did not stop people like you and me going out in to the countryside and sabbing the hunt, also how many people come from outside of Brighton to protest at the Smash EDO Demos?, Andy R you are not only a Neo Nazi/Fascist in sheep’s clothing but also the worst kind of hypocrite, you want freedom of speech but only for you.

We will be back next year Andy and even if I have to do it alone because you thugs have scared off the families who want to participate you won’t scare me, I do not cow tow to cowardly Neo Nazi thugs like you who wont to trample on my liberty’s in my country, It’s not going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today. And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you. Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw. Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.[/p][/quote]Andy R, 1st that crowed of baying thugs were not all from Brighton and yes there were people on the March for St. George who do not live in Brighton ether, however I am local and I do remember when I was younger and taking part in Hunt sabs when the huntsmen told us we had no right to protest because we were townies but that did not stop people like you and me going out in to the countryside and sabbing the hunt, also how many people come from outside of Brighton to protest at the Smash EDO Demos?, Andy R you are not only a Neo Nazi/Fascist in sheep’s clothing but also the worst kind of hypocrite, you want freedom of speech but only for you. We will be back next year Andy and even if I have to do it alone because you thugs have scared off the families who want to participate you won’t scare me, I do not cow tow to cowardly Neo Nazi thugs like you who wont to trample on my liberty’s in my country, It’s not going to happen. The Old Crippel

9:17am Mon 23 Apr 12

A.P. says...

The Old Crippel wrote:
A.P. wrote:
I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots.

No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them.

They have no place in Brighton.
Yes AP i bet you do wish that, it’s what you Neo Nazi’s want, stop anyone saying anything you don't like.

The only reason people like you have the right to scream your hatred in the street is because of people like me who gave up our youth to defend your right to free speech.

I will rot in hell long before I will give you and your fascist friends (Who are masquerading as Anti-Fascists) the right to take those freedoms away from me.
Perhaps your anger has made you misunderstand what I said. I didn't say these people should not march, I said no one should bother with them, their views are not worth serious consideration.

Mind you, I'll bet a tenner that the marchers for England went home and drank lots of Belgian lager before going for a curry or a kebab on the way home.
[quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.P.[/bold] wrote: I wish no one had turned up in protest, I wish no one had given them a second glance. I wish no one had stooped to acknowledge the existence of these bigots. No press coverage, no protest, only enough police to stop them harming others - denying them oxygen is the best way to stop them. They have no place in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Yes AP i bet you do wish that, it’s what you Neo Nazi’s want, stop anyone saying anything you don't like. The only reason people like you have the right to scream your hatred in the street is because of people like me who gave up our youth to defend your right to free speech. I will rot in hell long before I will give you and your fascist friends (Who are masquerading as Anti-Fascists) the right to take those freedoms away from me.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your anger has made you misunderstand what I said. I didn't say these people should not march, I said no one should bother with them, their views are not worth serious consideration. Mind you, I'll bet a tenner that the marchers for England went home and drank lots of Belgian lager before going for a curry or a kebab on the way home. A.P.

9:23am Mon 23 Apr 12

tinkle34 says...

jamie-hove wrote:
tinkle34 wrote:
HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!!
You wil be back next year? why? to achieve what? other than allowing your sad attention seeking ego a day out with the other fascists on parade. All that this achieved was disruption for the town's visitors and businesses and a policing bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds that would have been better spent on the many urgent needs of the community. Your fake piousness is as nauseating as it is hypocritical. The "march" had no aims, mo point and made no difference so why don't you just all go and play with your x-boxes, or write on your blogs or chant in your pubs and understand that not only do the vast vast majority of people not want you disrupting the life of the town but they hold you in utter contempt.
YAY HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY :)
[quote][p][bold]jamie-hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinkle34[/bold] wrote: HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL............Shame on all you thugs that threw bottles,eggs & anything you could into the march for England & yes i was part of this march & no i am not E.D.L & yes i am from Brighton so it was pointless telling me not to bother coming back.You thugs injured a 72yr old pensioner many woman were hit on the head with bottles and a disabled man in his mobility scooter was covered in eggs...None of our faces were covered..Why were yours ?We will be back next year,we will not be bullied by you thugs cheers !!!!![/p][/quote]You wil be back next year? why? to achieve what? other than allowing your sad attention seeking ego a day out with the other fascists on parade. All that this achieved was disruption for the town's visitors and businesses and a policing bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds that would have been better spent on the many urgent needs of the community. Your fake piousness is as nauseating as it is hypocritical. The "march" had no aims, mo point and made no difference so why don't you just all go and play with your x-boxes, or write on your blogs or chant in your pubs and understand that not only do the vast vast majority of people not want you disrupting the life of the town but they hold you in utter contempt.[/p][/quote]YAY HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY :) tinkle34

9:24am Mon 23 Apr 12

ProudToBeEnglish says...

E E EDL!!!
E E EDL!!! ProudToBeEnglish

9:30am Mon 23 Apr 12

fretlessbass says...

the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist.
Haha! Very funny! Ten years ago no-one knew who St George was now every beer bellied half-wit in the country walks around in a St George shirt. Of course they have no idea who he actually was. He was actually from the middle east and if he turned up today these people would be the first to demand his deportation. I am forever amused by the statement 'I am proud to be English'. Doesn't pride denote some form of acheivement? Where is the acheivement in an accident of birth? The EDL and BNP are a blight on our streetsand society, but then so of course are their unlovely ideological opposites the SWP and various anarchist and ultra - leftist lunatics. The sooner they all lose their 'right' to cause mayhem on our streets the better!
the George cross or union flag is the right of every English person and Briton without being labelled a racist. Haha! Very funny! Ten years ago no-one knew who St George was now every beer bellied half-wit in the country walks around in a St George shirt. Of course they have no idea who he actually was. He was actually from the middle east and if he turned up today these people would be the first to demand his deportation. I am forever amused by the statement 'I am proud to be English'. Doesn't pride denote some form of acheivement? Where is the acheivement in an accident of birth? The EDL and BNP are a blight on our streetsand society, but then so of course are their unlovely ideological opposites the SWP and various anarchist and ultra - leftist lunatics. The sooner they all lose their 'right' to cause mayhem on our streets the better! fretlessbass

9:36am Mon 23 Apr 12

A.P. says...

Well I've just looked up St George and found this;

"Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Bulgaria, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Fakiha, Bteghrine, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg, Kumanovo, Ljubljana, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow, Tamworth and the Maltese island of Gozo, as well as of the Scout Movement and a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers."

So happy St Georges day to you all, whether you are Egyptian, Indian, Palestinian or from wherever.
Well I've just looked up St George and found this; "Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Bulgaria, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Fakiha, Bteghrine, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg, Kumanovo, Ljubljana, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow, Tamworth and the Maltese island of Gozo, as well as of the Scout Movement and a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers." So happy St Georges day to you all, whether you are Egyptian, Indian, Palestinian or from wherever. A.P.

9:43am Mon 23 Apr 12

Busterblister says...

What's the difference between capitalism and communism?

Under capitalism, man exploits man - under communism it's the other way round.

And so it was yesterday. Two sets of fascists opposing each other from either side of the political spectrum.

One thing though - patriotism has become a dirty word. We seem to be surrounded by people who believe in believing everything and nothing. I would wager that the vast majority of people in this country are patriotic to some degree, Brighton is an unusual town in that generally it isn't FOR things, it's AGAINST things, which isn't terribly positive.
What's the difference between capitalism and communism? Under capitalism, man exploits man - under communism it's the other way round. And so it was yesterday. Two sets of fascists opposing each other from either side of the political spectrum. One thing though - patriotism has become a dirty word. We seem to be surrounded by people who believe in believing everything and nothing. I would wager that the vast majority of people in this country are patriotic to some degree, Brighton is an unusual town in that generally it isn't FOR things, it's AGAINST things, which isn't terribly positive. Busterblister

9:47am Mon 23 Apr 12

tinkle34 says...

The Old Crippel wrote:
Andy R wrote:
The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today.

And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you.

Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw.

Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.
Andy R,

1st that crowed of baying thugs were not all from Brighton and yes there were people on the March for St. George who do not live in Brighton ether, however I am local and I do remember when I was younger and taking part in Hunt sabs when the huntsmen told us we had no right to protest because we were townies but that did not stop people like you and me going out in to the countryside and sabbing the hunt, also how many people come from outside of Brighton to protest at the Smash EDO Demos?, Andy R you are not only a Neo Nazi/Fascist in sheep’s clothing but also the worst kind of hypocrite, you want freedom of speech but only for you.

We will be back next year Andy and even if I have to do it alone because you thugs have scared off the families who want to participate you won’t scare me, I do not cow tow to cowardly Neo Nazi thugs like you who wont to trample on my liberty’s in my country, It’s not going to happen.
Out of towners strange as i live in Brighton & attended the march. So locals is that how they behave the opposing party by throwing bottles & anything they could into the England march. Nothing but dirty grease monkeys & for the guy that punched me in the ribs very big of you....HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY :)
[quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. No-one opposing you was "bussed in". The opposition were just local people. It was you lot who were bussed in. You were the out of towners. Hopefully your whining means you realise just how humiliated you were today. And thirsty too, given that no pub would serve you. Families? Just the usual rabble of beer-bellied blokes is what I saw. Time to take the hint I reckon. Don't come back.[/p][/quote]Andy R, 1st that crowed of baying thugs were not all from Brighton and yes there were people on the March for St. George who do not live in Brighton ether, however I am local and I do remember when I was younger and taking part in Hunt sabs when the huntsmen told us we had no right to protest because we were townies but that did not stop people like you and me going out in to the countryside and sabbing the hunt, also how many people come from outside of Brighton to protest at the Smash EDO Demos?, Andy R you are not only a Neo Nazi/Fascist in sheep’s clothing but also the worst kind of hypocrite, you want freedom of speech but only for you. We will be back next year Andy and even if I have to do it alone because you thugs have scared off the families who want to participate you won’t scare me, I do not cow tow to cowardly Neo Nazi thugs like you who wont to trample on my liberty’s in my country, It’s not going to happen.[/p][/quote]Out of towners strange as i live in Brighton & attended the march. So locals is that how they behave the opposing party by throwing bottles & anything they could into the England march. Nothing but dirty grease monkeys & for the guy that punched me in the ribs very big of you....HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY :) tinkle34

9:56am Mon 23 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

spider72 wrote:
Have never seen such a bunch of idiots opposing a march that they don't understand. I am proud to be English and don't see why I should not be.
At no stage did I abuse anyone, yet I was called a racist, and far worse.
Get off our streets, get out of our town, your town don't make me laugh, I was born and bread here I'm afraid.
Still must make you feel really big hiding in a crowd with masks on and throwing bottles!!!
Next time let's see your faces if you have got any balls, which we all know you haven't
I think it's fairly clear where bottles are coming from on this video. From the EDL - lots of them!
http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=JcJlrhcQQ

uM
[quote][p][bold]spider72[/bold] wrote: Have never seen such a bunch of idiots opposing a march that they don't understand. I am proud to be English and don't see why I should not be. At no stage did I abuse anyone, yet I was called a racist, and far worse. Get off our streets, get out of our town, your town don't make me laugh, I was born and bread here I'm afraid. Still must make you feel really big hiding in a crowd with masks on and throwing bottles!!! Next time let's see your faces if you have got any balls, which we all know you haven't[/p][/quote]I think it's fairly clear where bottles are coming from on this video. From the EDL - lots of them! http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=JcJlrhcQQ uM gaz scott

10:20am Mon 23 Apr 12

Old Ale Man says...

You are quite right JHunty about St Caroline (patron saint of travellers) living in Brussel. But she does have a new address in Brighton now, just an address to make folk think she lives here. Her husband still lives in Brussels and her children are still at school there, so she doen't always have to be whisked off to her safe home in Brussel.
So all you idiots that voted for her because you think she has the well being of the city at heart were hoodwinked, all she cares about is her own bottle.
You are quite right JHunty about St Caroline (patron saint of travellers) living in Brussel. But she does have a new address in Brighton now, just an address to make folk think she lives here. Her husband still lives in Brussels and her children are still at school there, so she doen't always have to be whisked off to her safe home in Brussel. So all you idiots that voted for her because you think she has the well being of the city at heart were hoodwinked, all she cares about is her own bottle. Old Ale Man

10:35am Mon 23 Apr 12

KarenT says...

HJarrs wrote:
Indigatio wrote:
I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country.

Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second.

What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride.

There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are.

1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers.

2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement.

3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters.

I could go on with other examples but won’t.
Most tax dodgers and tax fraudsters that deny the exchequer of tens of billions of £s every year are mostly white English, so what is your point exactly?
His point is, you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist, however, point out crimes (or make ANY negative connotation) with white people and suddenly it's OK, just as you have just done! "Different rules", eh?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigatio[/bold] wrote: I’m British and I’m English and I would have happily taken part in the March today. There is nothing wrong with stating your national identity and to claim your part of our wonderful democratic country. Anyone who lives in the UK should consider themselves British (or English) first and their ethnicity comes second. What struck me when I was in New York is that everyone there is proud to be American. The Stars and Stripes are flown everywhere, and proudly. A person’s ethnicity is second to the fact that they are American first. The sight of a Fire Truck racing up the Fire Lane in 5th Avenue, sirens blaring and lights ablaze with a 15ft Stars & Stripes flown from the tail of its ladder says it all. It’s a shame that it isn’t the same in the UK with the Union Flag or the Cross of St George flown with pride. There are certain facts which people are afraid to state these days but facts there are. 1) As Paul Condon said some years ago, the majority of muggings in London are committed by Black Youths. What he didn’t say was that the majority of Black Youths are muggers. 2) The majority of gun crime in London is Black on Black – this is a fact and not a racist statement. 3) Crash for Cash. The majority of the perpetrators of this are ethnic or of an ethnic, (ie Asian) background. A fact not a racist statement but the Insurance Companies who suffer millions of pounds of loses will not state this public for the fear of being called racist. What it doesn’t mean is that the majority of Asian’s are fraudsters. I could go on with other examples but won’t.[/p][/quote]Most tax dodgers and tax fraudsters that deny the exchequer of tens of billions of £s every year are mostly white English, so what is your point exactly?[/p][/quote]His point is, you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist, however, point out crimes (or make ANY negative connotation) with white people and suddenly it's OK, just as you have just done! "Different rules", eh? KarenT

10:49am Mon 23 Apr 12

fedupwithgreens says...

Stuff the patroism,i say 'get stuck in lads'!!!
Stuff the patroism,i say 'get stuck in lads'!!! fedupwithgreens

10:58am Mon 23 Apr 12

Ballroom Blitz says...

Violence is the idiot's way of trying get a point across.
Standing in front of a policeman on a horse giving it the 'come on if you think you're hard enough' as I saw in one photo, just makes me realise that at least some of the anti EDL protestors were there just to have a ruck with the police - as always.
EDL have no place in Brighton, but by giving them the oxygen of publicity by having a counter protest is just daft.
Stand on the side of the road with your back to them and then drop your trousers as they pass, would make a far more eloquent and apt statement of your revulsion for these new wave fascists than anything the protestors did yesterday.
Violence is the idiot's way of trying get a point across. Standing in front of a policeman on a horse giving it the 'come on if you think you're hard enough' as I saw in one photo, just makes me realise that at least some of the anti EDL protestors were there just to have a ruck with the police - as always. EDL have no place in Brighton, but by giving them the oxygen of publicity by having a counter protest is just daft. Stand on the side of the road with your back to them and then drop your trousers as they pass, would make a far more eloquent and apt statement of your revulsion for these new wave fascists than anything the protestors did yesterday. Ballroom Blitz

11:01am Mon 23 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

"you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist"

Yet another urban myth. You can talk about crime, you can even talk about ethnic criminals. What you cannot do is intimate that because one coloured youth has stabbed someone, all coloured youth are likely to stab someone.

Generalisation is out. Criminalising a whole group on the basis of the conduct of a few of its members is out. Intimating that no one, apart from a given group of what you perceive as 'others', rape, drunk drive, stab, plant bombs, throw bottles, groom young boys or girls, abuse women, beat up the elderly ... the list goes on ... is wrong!
But because there are eejits that could not see that, we now have a law that clarifies this fact for the cerebrally challenged amongst us.
"you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist" Yet another urban myth. You can talk about crime, you can even talk about ethnic criminals. What you cannot do is intimate that because one coloured youth has stabbed someone, all coloured youth are likely to stab someone. Generalisation is out. Criminalising a whole group on the basis of the conduct of a few of its members is out. Intimating that no one, apart from a given group of what you perceive as 'others', rape, drunk drive, stab, plant bombs, throw bottles, groom young boys or girls, abuse women, beat up the elderly ... the list goes on ... is wrong! But because there are eejits that could not see that, we now have a law that clarifies this fact for the cerebrally challenged amongst us. mimseycal

11:04am Mon 23 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

Well said Ballroom Blitz ... but I'll keep me trousers on all the same ;)
Well said Ballroom Blitz ... but I'll keep me trousers on all the same ;) mimseycal

11:09am Mon 23 Apr 12

LawrenceG says...

The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists.

When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them.

The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany.


The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble.

The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups.

After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up.

The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation.

Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers.
I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town. Find somewhere else next year.
Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'.
I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May.
[quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers. I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town. Find somewhere else next year. Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'. I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May. LawrenceG

11:18am Mon 23 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

mimseycal wrote:
"you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist"

Yet another urban myth. You can talk about crime, you can even talk about ethnic criminals. What you cannot do is intimate that because one coloured youth has stabbed someone, all coloured youth are likely to stab someone.

Generalisation is out. Criminalising a whole group on the basis of the conduct of a few of its members is out. Intimating that no one, apart from a given group of what you perceive as 'others', rape, drunk drive, stab, plant bombs, throw bottles, groom young boys or girls, abuse women, beat up the elderly ... the list goes on ... is wrong!
But because there are eejits that could not see that, we now have a law that clarifies this fact for the cerebrally challenged amongst us.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]mimseycal[/bold] wrote: "you can't even 'talk' about a crime that is committed primarily by an ethnic minority without being accused of being a racist" Yet another urban myth. You can talk about crime, you can even talk about ethnic criminals. What you cannot do is intimate that because one coloured youth has stabbed someone, all coloured youth are likely to stab someone. Generalisation is out. Criminalising a whole group on the basis of the conduct of a few of its members is out. Intimating that no one, apart from a given group of what you perceive as 'others', rape, drunk drive, stab, plant bombs, throw bottles, groom young boys or girls, abuse women, beat up the elderly ... the list goes on ... is wrong! But because there are eejits that could not see that, we now have a law that clarifies this fact for the cerebrally challenged amongst us.[/p][/quote]Spot on. gaz scott

11:29am Mon 23 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out.
pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though.

The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they?
I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out. pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though. The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they? voiceofthescoombe

11:40am Mon 23 Apr 12

workingclassandproudofit says...

I trust that all those who march for England only drive English cars, and only wear clothes and shoes made in England. Perhaps marchers should be made to remove all garments made in China, Taiwan, etc before they are allowed to march. If you really want to support your country, don't spend your money on stuff made abroad.
I trust that all those who march for England only drive English cars, and only wear clothes and shoes made in England. Perhaps marchers should be made to remove all garments made in China, Taiwan, etc before they are allowed to march. If you really want to support your country, don't spend your money on stuff made abroad. workingclassandproudofit

11:43am Mon 23 Apr 12

tinkle34 says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out.
pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though.

The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they?
HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY CHEERS :)
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out. pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though. The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they?[/p][/quote]HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY CHEERS :) tinkle34

12:12pm Mon 23 Apr 12

spider72 says...

A.P. wrote:
Well I've just looked up St George and found this;

"Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Bulgaria, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Fakiha, Bteghrine, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg, Kumanovo, Ljubljana, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow, Tamworth and the Maltese island of Gozo, as well as of the Scout Movement and a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers."

So happy St Georges day to you all, whether you are Egyptian, Indian, Palestinian or from wherever.
Wikipedia, a wonderful tool :-)
[quote][p][bold]A.P.[/bold] wrote: Well I've just looked up St George and found this; "Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Bulgaria, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Fakiha, Bteghrine, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg, Kumanovo, Ljubljana, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow, Tamworth and the Maltese island of Gozo, as well as of the Scout Movement and a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers." So happy St Georges day to you all, whether you are Egyptian, Indian, Palestinian or from wherever.[/p][/quote]Wikipedia, a wonderful tool :-) spider72

12:25pm Mon 23 Apr 12

HamSandwich says...

Happy St Georges' Day to all Brightonians and Hovites from all nationalities and creeds. I'd like to thank all of the residents who helped to scoop up that sewer overflow mess emanating from the station yesterday and managed to dump it back on a rail replacement bus. I really felt like an honest citizen yesterday, looking at all of the broken faces of hatred of the EDL, showing me how far the country has moved on from the 70's for the better when these thugs were in much larger number. Half-hearted Nazi salutes. Smirking as they racially taunted people and wound up people out on their everyday business. Providing they don't smoke and drink themselves to death in the meantime, if they want to visit the seaside, how about petitioning them to have next years march finish two feet past Beachy Head?
Happy St Georges' Day to all Brightonians and Hovites from all nationalities and creeds. I'd like to thank all of the residents who helped to scoop up that sewer overflow mess emanating from the station yesterday and managed to dump it back on a rail replacement bus. I really felt like an honest citizen yesterday, looking at all of the broken faces of hatred of the EDL, showing me how far the country has moved on from the 70's for the better when these thugs were in much larger number. Half-hearted Nazi salutes. Smirking as they racially taunted people and wound up people out on their everyday business. Providing they don't smoke and drink themselves to death in the meantime, if they want to visit the seaside, how about petitioning them to have next years march finish two feet past Beachy Head? HamSandwich

12:46pm Mon 23 Apr 12

LawrenceG says...

One other observation from yesterday.
Midday and a 30 something couple in their England football shirts, who just happened to be in town visiting, were heading up Queens Road, oblivious of what was up ahead. I pointed out they may want to hold back, just in case anyone mistook them for part of the march. Three hours later they were in Victoria Gardens with those of us surrounding the poor huddled 'masses', not being threatened by any 'ranting leftie scum' throwing stuff at them.
It's not the flag you wear or carry that's the issue. It's the bigoted crap that come out of some mouths when wearing that flag.
One other observation from yesterday. Midday and a 30 something couple in their England football shirts, who just happened to be in town visiting, were heading up Queens Road, oblivious of what was up ahead. I pointed out they may want to hold back, just in case anyone mistook them for part of the march. Three hours later they were in Victoria Gardens with those of us surrounding the poor huddled 'masses', not being threatened by any 'ranting leftie scum' throwing stuff at them. It's not the flag you wear or carry that's the issue. It's the bigoted crap that come out of some mouths when wearing that flag. LawrenceG

1:27pm Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

LawrenceG wrote:
The Old Crippel wrote:
I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists.

When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them.

The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany.


The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble.

The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups.

After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up.

The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation.

Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.
You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers.
I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town. Find somewhere else next year.
Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'.
I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May.
OK LawrenceG says... let’s just look at what you have said shall we?

You say, “You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers.”

1st How do you know they were hard core nationalists? You don’t and you were not there, 2nd they left the rally in small groups from the railway station only after the police allowed them to leave. 3rd they were walking along the sea front antagonising no one, they were minding their own business and going with their families to the pier to enjoy the rest of the day like everyone else, they were not shouting or drawing attention to themselves. 4th the men who attacked them did not meet them as they were walking along the sea front, they saw them as they (the attackers) were walking in a westerly direction away from the families they attacked. 5th I watched what the attackers did next from the other side of the road, the attackers rand back approximately 200 meters and attacked the men who were with their families, no warning (Tactic of a coward) and certainly no provocation and when I got there they tried to attack me even though it is obvious that I am disabled.

You then say “I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town.”

You don’t care whether I’m local or not do you well that makes no difference to me on bit what you think as you are nobody, just another Neo Nazi mascaraing as an Anti-Nazi.
The March for St. George was small this year as last year your tactics scared off a lot of people this year, I do not think you will have such an easy time next year as you have shown you are nothing but violent thugs and as such I do believe that next year you will reap what you have sown.

You then say “Find somewhere else next year.”

I say you can go to hell, we will be back next year, we will not allow Neo Nazi thugs like you to run us of our own streets.

You then say “Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'.”

Tell me, just how stupid are you? Seems to me you are a moron! Who exactly were being macho? Who was being intolerant? Who was throwing abuse? All that Macho, Intolerant Abuse was coming from you Neo Nazi’s, all the physical attacks were coming from you and your moronic Nazi friends, 72 year old men, 9 year old girls and a man in a wheel chare attacked and you, you Muppet defend that type of action, you are a coward of the 1st order along with all your Nazi chums..


Then you finish with “I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May.”

Well I cannot speak for the others on the March for St. George but I do know I was not going to the EDL march as I am not EDL but after the actions of you and your Neo Nazi friends yesterday I may very well join them now.
[quote][p][bold]LawrenceG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: I went on the March for England today, It was not a demonstration but a march to celebrate our patron saint, something that has happened in this country for a very long time until the politically correct morons and the political left (One and the same really) started calling English people who are proud to be English Nazi’s and Racists. When the Irish march to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day no one calls them racists! When the Welsh celebrate St. David no one calls them Racist, When the Scots celebrate St. Andrew no one calls them racists but if the English dares to celebrate there patron Saint on their own streets then we are branded racists by a baying mob who throw glass bottles, One injuring a 9 year old girl! How very brave of them. The tactics used to day by the demonstrators in order to stop a peaceful celebration of England’s National Saint came straight out of the Schutzstaffel hand book, these are the tactics used by the Nazi’s in Germany in order to shut up their opponents prior to taking over Germany. The demonstrators have shown by their determination to stop this peaceful march that they are the enemies of democracy and free speech, when families with young children can no longer March through the streets of a sea side town without being attacked by a baying mob of hate filed thugs then this country really is in trouble. The amount of people who came to Brighton today to demonstrate were bussed in at the expense of the fascist organisation Unite Against Fascism, (Sir Winston Churchill said “The next Nazi’s will manifest themselves as Anti-Nazi’s) and he was right 100%, this organisation is funded by the British Government and by Islamic groups. After the demonstration was over a family who were on the march and who had young children in buggies was attacked on the sea front and this was captured on CCTV, I witnessed this myself and I went to their aid and even though the attackers 2 Black and about 6 white) were aware that I am disabled they attacked me and only stopped when the police turned up. The people who came to Brighton to demonstrate against this peaceful March for St George never demonstrate about anything in its own right, they only counter demonstrate and by doing so cost the authority’s millions of pounds, It is high time the police stopped these counter demonstrations otherwise soon someone will be killed and then the gloves will come off and the police will no longer be in control of the situation. Today a child could have been seriously injured or even killed by a cowardly thug hiding in a crowed of baying thugs, if this dose happen there will be a blood bath, the likes of which this country has not seen since the last civil war.[/p][/quote]You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers. I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town. Find somewhere else next year. Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'. I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May.[/p][/quote]OK LawrenceG says... let’s just look at what you have said shall we? You say, “You conveniently don't mention that 'the family' was one of a group of about 15 male, hardcore nationalists who had left the Mfe 'rally' (which oddly never got round to making any speeches), and had no alternative but to wander the seafront antagonising strangers.” 1st How do you know they were hard core nationalists? You don’t and you were not there, 2nd they left the rally in small groups from the railway station only after the police allowed them to leave. 3rd they were walking along the sea front antagonising no one, they were minding their own business and going with their families to the pier to enjoy the rest of the day like everyone else, they were not shouting or drawing attention to themselves. 4th the men who attacked them did not meet them as they were walking along the sea front, they saw them as they (the attackers) were walking in a westerly direction away from the families they attacked. 5th I watched what the attackers did next from the other side of the road, the attackers rand back approximately 200 meters and attacked the men who were with their families, no warning (Tactic of a coward) and certainly no provocation and when I got there they tried to attack me even though it is obvious that I am disabled. You then say “I don't care whether you are local or not. Sunday should prove that your so-called march (a moving kettle would be a better description) isn't welcome in the town.” You don’t care whether I’m local or not do you well that makes no difference to me on bit what you think as you are nobody, just another Neo Nazi mascaraing as an Anti-Nazi. The March for St. George was small this year as last year your tactics scared off a lot of people this year, I do not think you will have such an easy time next year as you have shown you are nothing but violent thugs and as such I do believe that next year you will reap what you have sown. You then say “Find somewhere else next year.” I say you can go to hell, we will be back next year, we will not allow Neo Nazi thugs like you to run us of our own streets. You then say “Also this constant bleating about how the Irish, Welsh etc are allowed to celebrate their saints' days and we're not. You can but instead you choose to use it as an excuse for macho, intolerant abuse of others who don't fit your idea of 'englishness'.” Tell me, just how stupid are you? Seems to me you are a moron! Who exactly were being macho? Who was being intolerant? Who was throwing abuse? All that Macho, Intolerant Abuse was coming from you Neo Nazi’s, all the physical attacks were coming from you and your moronic Nazi friends, 72 year old men, 9 year old girls and a man in a wheel chare attacked and you, you Muppet defend that type of action, you are a coward of the 1st order along with all your Nazi chums.. Then you finish with “I also have no doubt that the majority of those from MfE yesterday will be going to Luton for the totally provocative EDL demonstration in May.” Well I cannot speak for the others on the March for St. George but I do know I was not going to the EDL march as I am not EDL but after the actions of you and your Neo Nazi friends yesterday I may very well join them now. The Old Crippel

1:41pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Russ says...

It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton.

Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population.

ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about.

I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion.

If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust. Russ

1:41pm Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

workingclassandproud
ofit
wrote:
I trust that all those who march for England only drive English cars, and only wear clothes and shoes made in England. Perhaps marchers should be made to remove all garments made in China, Taiwan, etc before they are allowed to march. If you really want to support your country, don't spend your money on stuff made abroad.
That is a stupid point, we also sell to other countries, by the way there are no English cars any more, idiots like you sold it all
[quote][p][bold]workingclassandproud ofit[/bold] wrote: I trust that all those who march for England only drive English cars, and only wear clothes and shoes made in England. Perhaps marchers should be made to remove all garments made in China, Taiwan, etc before they are allowed to march. If you really want to support your country, don't spend your money on stuff made abroad.[/p][/quote]That is a stupid point, we also sell to other countries, by the way there are no English cars any more, idiots like you sold it all The Old Crippel

1:46pm Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out.
pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though.

The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they?
You probably would if you knew that St. George was the patron saint of the Scouting association Which it is so I’ll probably see you protesting at the next Scouts Jamboree?
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: I applaud the demonstrators for runining the racist fools day out. pity they didn't have any muslamic ray guns though. The Idea that this was an innocent march celebrating Englishness is mad people dont turn up to demostrate against boy scounts do they?[/p][/quote]You probably would if you knew that St. George was the patron saint of the Scouting association Which it is so I’ll probably see you protesting at the next Scouts Jamboree? The Old Crippel

1:51pm Mon 23 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

Its Shakespears Birthday today possibly a better symbol than some foreign type who went around bullying Dragons.
plus being Shakespear nicely upstages just about every other playweight in history.
I'm english and quitely quite pleased about it. I dont need to scream and shout about it or threaten anyone to be English.
Its Shakespears Birthday today possibly a better symbol than some foreign type who went around bullying Dragons. plus being Shakespear nicely upstages just about every other playweight in history. I'm english and quitely quite pleased about it. I dont need to scream and shout about it or threaten anyone to be English. voiceofthescoombe

5:07pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Zeta Function says...

The EDL are not celebrating St George for being a saint alone. He's co-opted into a political framework that insists on right wing rhetoric.

As for Shakespeare for all we know about his origins he might have been Scottish. Like St George he can be co-opted by any political group to provide credibility.

EDL values are mostly negative, no immigration, etc. Leave St George and Shakespeare aside and what do you have? Nasty fascist values that have to be opposed. Preferably through discussion and debate.
The EDL are not celebrating St George for being a saint alone. He's co-opted into a political framework that insists on right wing rhetoric. As for Shakespeare for all we know about his origins he might have been Scottish. Like St George he can be co-opted by any political group to provide credibility. EDL values are mostly negative, no immigration, etc. Leave St George and Shakespeare aside and what do you have? Nasty fascist values that have to be opposed. Preferably through discussion and debate. Zeta Function

5:10pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Russ wrote:
It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law"
So why then, out of interest, do they protest here?
And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?
[quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.[/p][/quote]"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening? Ashles

5:16pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Zeta Function says...

I'm glad they don't come to Hove!
I'm glad they don't come to Hove! Zeta Function

5:29pm Mon 23 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

Why would I bother protesting about the scouts?
They are not as far as I know Football hooligans and would be Breviks unlike the march for England mob.
Why would I bother protesting about the scouts? They are not as far as I know Football hooligans and would be Breviks unlike the march for England mob. voiceofthescoombe

6:53pm Mon 23 Apr 12

deve says...

I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight.
I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight. deve

7:33pm Mon 23 Apr 12

AmboGuy says...

deve wrote:
I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight.
Yep UAF are just as dangerous as MFE. The trouble is that the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
[quote][p][bold]deve[/bold] wrote: I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight.[/p][/quote]Yep UAF are just as dangerous as MFE. The trouble is that the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. AmboGuy

7:41pm Mon 23 Apr 12

KarenT says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
Why would I bother protesting about the scouts?
They are not as far as I know Football hooligans and would be Breviks unlike the march for England mob.
Most sensible and balanced post on this thread - nothing more needs to be said.
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: Why would I bother protesting about the scouts? They are not as far as I know Football hooligans and would be Breviks unlike the march for England mob.[/p][/quote]Most sensible and balanced post on this thread - nothing more needs to be said. KarenT

7:44pm Mon 23 Apr 12

KarenT says...

deve wrote:
I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight.
Sorry, meant to quote THIS post as the most sensible and balanced comment on this thread, without doubt! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]deve[/bold] wrote: I dont support ether side but I watched for a while. I think the anti fascists group are a disgrace. They were aggressive, chanting, blocking streets, throwing objects, hiding behind face-masks and hoodies and creating dangerous situations. I think the police were too tolerant and should have taken the ring leaders out - from both sides. I now hear UAF are objecting to the police methods. The UAF blocked roads, stopping people going about their business and because of their actions the MfE have got a lot more publicity. UAF looked a joke - but dangerous. They surrounded the MfE group - didnt let them have their say. Freedom of speech works both ways - like it or not our democracy allows groups like UAF and MfE to march. Please UAF do not protest in my name.The violence I saw was caused by UAF. This was not a peaceful demonstration. UAF - You are disgraceful and turned a non event into a major news item - and UAF came out as the thugs. I hope both groups never come to Brighton again - but I fear this will become an annual bun fight.[/p][/quote]Sorry, meant to quote THIS post as the most sensible and balanced comment on this thread, without doubt! ;-) KarenT

8:51pm Mon 23 Apr 12

west hove says...

I have no problem with people celebrating St George. Saw on the news Salisbury held a St Georges Day celebration, didn't see any UAF there. I do have a problem with racists/far right using it as smoke screen for their own vile views. Please check out the Casuals United blog, one of the organisations (if you can call it that) who took part in the march (even better check out the 'comments'). So I decided to go along and show my opposition to the march. I boo'd them and that was it, like a large proportion of other counter-demonstrator
s. If people want to show their support for St George/Englishness or whatever they want to call I'd avoid scum like the MfE lot.
I have no problem with people celebrating St George. Saw on the news Salisbury held a St Georges Day celebration, didn't see any UAF there. I do have a problem with racists/far right using it as smoke screen for their own vile views. Please check out the Casuals United blog, one of the organisations (if you can call it that) who took part in the march (even better check out the 'comments'). So I decided to go along and show my opposition to the march. I boo'd them and that was it, like a large proportion of other counter-demonstrator s. If people want to show their support for St George/Englishness or whatever they want to call I'd avoid scum like the MfE lot. west hove

1:29am Tue 24 Apr 12

Robbadob says...

This is one of the subtler threats on the comments from Casuals United blog-Find out where the uaf in Brighton have there meetings and go and say hello. A few of them are a are a little more blatant and give away what the March for England is all about. Apparently anyone who disagrees with their point of view is a traitor and Rupert Murdoch is left-wing
This is one of the subtler threats on the comments from Casuals United blog-Find out where the uaf in Brighton have there meetings and go and say hello. A few of them are a are a little more blatant and give away what the March for England is all about. Apparently anyone who disagrees with their point of view is a traitor and Rupert Murdoch is left-wing Robbadob

2:02am Tue 24 Apr 12

Robbadob says...

Two other comments from Casuals United blog about the March for England-Any of you left wing **** reading this,you are **** now.
And- next time we need 50 or 100 hard bastards.
Odd family day out
Two other comments from Casuals United blog about the March for England-Any of you left wing **** reading this,you are **** now. And- next time we need 50 or 100 hard bastards. Odd family day out Robbadob

2:05am Tue 24 Apr 12

Robbadob says...

Thanks Argus for editing last post for me- the second bleeped word should have six * though
Thanks Argus for editing last post for me- the second bleeped word should have six * though Robbadob

7:51am Tue 24 Apr 12

jainldn says...

please remember that St George belongs to all of us and is it not about time we took he back.
also the best way to deal with to deal with all extremists is to stand and laugh at them.
please remember that St George belongs to all of us and is it not about time we took he back. also the best way to deal with to deal with all extremists is to stand and laugh at them. jainldn

9:00am Tue 24 Apr 12

Russ says...

Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote:
It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law"
So why then, out of interest, do they protest here?
And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?
Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.[/p][/quote]"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?[/p][/quote]Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting. Russ

10:20am Tue 24 Apr 12

2012sugra says...

The hatred and anger I saw from both sides on sunday was horrible.Isn't it about time people of opposing views started really listening and talking to each other rather than continuing this sort of deadend conflict.It wouldn't be easy because from what I saw and heard both sides seem reluctant to use their ears.We must look within and see if we can heal ourselves first and not just wag the finger at others about their faults.If we don't change the way we behave to each other we risk repeating the mass bloodbaths of the past. Whether Right,Left,God or Allah etc if we don't change we are all doomed to suffer. Q: Where does such anger and hate come from?
The hatred and anger I saw from both sides on sunday was horrible.Isn't it about time people of opposing views started really listening and talking to each other rather than continuing this sort of deadend conflict.It wouldn't be easy because from what I saw and heard both sides seem reluctant to use their ears.We must look within and see if we can heal ourselves first and not just wag the finger at others about their faults.If we don't change the way we behave to each other we risk repeating the mass bloodbaths of the past. Whether Right,Left,God or Allah etc if we don't change we are all doomed to suffer. Q: Where does such anger and hate come from? 2012sugra

11:08am Tue 24 Apr 12

true-brightonian says...

Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia)

This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated.
Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia) This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated. true-brightonian

1:05pm Tue 24 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Russ wrote:
Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?
Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.
"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already"
And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is.
Because it isn't.

And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair?
Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about?
[quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.[/p][/quote]"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?[/p][/quote]Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.[/p][/quote]"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already" And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is. Because it isn't. And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair? Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about? Ashles

2:01pm Tue 24 Apr 12

2012sugra says...

true-brightonian wrote:
Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia) This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated.
Its all very well scoring points with definitions but how does that move things forward?Some of us are lucky to have benefited from our education,but those who have not ,to the same degree,still have grievances.How are we to deal with them?Keep calling them ignorant or try to understand.We ignore them at our peril,London has already seen the results.The difficult part is that both sides have to meet with open minds.At present I would no more support the bottle throwing UAF than the lager swilling EDL.Can somebody from either side break the mould and try something new please. Jaw jaw is preferable to War war. I know,naively stupid aren't I, but has anything worked so far.Go on give it a go.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia) This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated.[/p][/quote]Its all very well scoring points with definitions but how does that move things forward?Some of us are lucky to have benefited from our education,but those who have not ,to the same degree,still have grievances.How are we to deal with them?Keep calling them ignorant or try to understand.We ignore them at our peril,London has already seen the results.The difficult part is that both sides have to meet with open minds.At present I would no more support the bottle throwing UAF than the lager swilling EDL.Can somebody from either side break the mould and try something new please. Jaw jaw is preferable to War war. I know,naively stupid aren't I, but has anything worked so far.Go on give it a go. 2012sugra

3:09pm Tue 24 Apr 12

Russ says...

Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote:
Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?
Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.
"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already"
And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is.
Because it isn't.

And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair?
Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about?
How do you know it isn't? And how do you know what the people of Brighton are thinking? A small minority protested again the march, the rest went about their daily lives.

I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.[/p][/quote]"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?[/p][/quote]Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.[/p][/quote]"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already" And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is. Because it isn't. And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair? Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about?[/p][/quote]How do you know it isn't? And how do you know what the people of Brighton are thinking? A small minority protested again the march, the rest went about their daily lives. I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton. Russ

10:10pm Tue 24 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

I find it amusing that people with rightwing views continue to lie about MFE....it is riddled with EDL...the EDL are jumping up and down on their boards, not MFE...They are mostly from Portsmouth. Let them march in Portsmouth. Not sure about anybody else, but a typical English day out, doesnt include marching through towns drunk, snarling at local residents with the hope of a ruck. Stop lying about this group. As for the the anti protest didnt represent Brighton? The EDL march CERTAINLY didnt.
I find it amusing that people with rightwing views continue to lie about MFE....it is riddled with EDL...the EDL are jumping up and down on their boards, not MFE...They are mostly from Portsmouth. Let them march in Portsmouth. Not sure about anybody else, but a typical English day out, doesnt include marching through towns drunk, snarling at local residents with the hope of a ruck. Stop lying about this group. As for the the anti protest didnt represent Brighton? The EDL march CERTAINLY didnt. daveinprague

9:43am Wed 25 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

The UAF are following in the tradition of cable street etc etc.
By confronting facists whenever they take to the streets.
It may not be "nice' or appopiate but it is effective. EDL and its fellow travellers are about hate and denying rights to others this wasnt going to be a nice march about being english.
This was an excuse for a ruck and they got one.
The UAF are following in the tradition of cable street etc etc. By confronting facists whenever they take to the streets. It may not be "nice' or appopiate but it is effective. EDL and its fellow travellers are about hate and denying rights to others this wasnt going to be a nice march about being english. This was an excuse for a ruck and they got one. voiceofthescoombe

10:13am Wed 25 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

14 Characteristics of Fascism http://www.rense.com
/general37/fascism.h
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I don't think that you need to display all 14 to be deemed Fascist. In view of that I can see why those involved in the MfE last Sunday, the marchers as well as the counter-protesters, can be regarded as fascists or displaying fascist tendencies.
14 Characteristics of Fascism http://www.rense.com /general37/fascism.h tm I don't think that you need to display all 14 to be deemed Fascist. In view of that I can see why those involved in the MfE last Sunday, the marchers as well as the counter-protesters, can be regarded as fascists or displaying fascist tendencies. mimseycal

12:41pm Wed 25 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

Maybe we should hold a proper St georges day walk?
Live in engand your welcome or just visiting.
Ending up at the tea cosy for afternoon tea.
What could be more english than that? The lovable loons of the chap magazine savillie road protest is the way to go no bad language no riot police loverly :)
Maybe we should hold a proper St georges day walk? Live in engand your welcome or just visiting. Ending up at the tea cosy for afternoon tea. What could be more english than that? The lovable loons of the chap magazine savillie road protest is the way to go no bad language no riot police loverly :) voiceofthescoombe

12:47pm Wed 25 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

http://thechap.net/c
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Thats how you do a protest with a bit of style
http://thechap.net/c ontent/section_news/ ?p=1050 Thats how you do a protest with a bit of style voiceofthescoombe

12:53pm Wed 25 Apr 12

true-brightonian says...

The word "Fascist" is not a catch-all for anyone we don't like. The main thing that identifies a fascist is their attitude to nationality, war, race and religion. The UAF are opposed to nationalism of every sort. They are opposed to war of every sort. They are also non-religious and anti-racist. The MfE/EDL are very nationalistic, Christian and anti-Muslim as well as basically racist. They also seem to like war/the military. Therefore the exhibit the main symptoms of what is commonly known as "fascism". If you are reading this and are an ardent supporter of MfE/EDL, just be proud of what you are, i.e. a fascist and stop this pointless muddling of terms. Feel free to call the UAF militant, communist, enemies of the English Nation, non-Christian, undercover Al-Qaeda, etc. etc., but please stop labelling them as fascist just because most people don't like fascists.
The word "Fascist" is not a catch-all for anyone we don't like. The main thing that identifies a fascist is their attitude to nationality, war, race and religion. The UAF are opposed to nationalism of every sort. They are opposed to war of every sort. They are also non-religious and anti-racist. The MfE/EDL are very nationalistic, Christian and anti-Muslim as well as basically racist. They also seem to like war/the military. Therefore the exhibit the main symptoms of what is commonly known as "fascism". If you are reading this and are an ardent supporter of MfE/EDL, just be proud of what you are, i.e. a fascist and stop this pointless muddling of terms. Feel free to call the UAF militant, communist, enemies of the English Nation, non-Christian, undercover Al-Qaeda, etc. etc., but please stop labelling them as fascist just because most people don't like fascists. true-brightonian

2:46pm Wed 25 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Russ wrote:
Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote:
Ashles wrote:
Russ wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.
"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?
Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.
"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already" And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is. Because it isn't. And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair? Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about?
How do you know it isn't? And how do you know what the people of Brighton are thinking? A small minority protested again the march, the rest went about their daily lives. I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton.
"How do you know it isn't?"
How do I know the people of Brighton aren't terrified of Muslims invading? Well the fact that they actively protest in not insignifcant numbers AGAINST such a viewpoint when people cvome in tfrom out of town with such views would be the first indicator.
Also that we do not have any anti-Muslim feeling expressed in the city (and if you believe otherwise then the onus is on you to provide evidence that there is).

"I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton."
You might want to re-read that sentence and see if you can spot the irony in it.
[quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ[/bold] wrote: It amazes me some of the comments I'm seeing here. After witnessing the goings on on Sunday I do not feel proud to have been born in the wonderful city of Brighton. Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law, unfortunately this gets forgotten and they get branded racists and fascists, usually by people who are just repeating what they've heard rather than reading about the movement and how it's come about. I'm not a supporter of either side, I'm someone who believes that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If only people stopped jumping on band wagons and actually used their own common sense things might have been different. I witnessed so much anger and hatred yesterday that it made me ashamed of the people of Brighton. It was a disgusting thing to see, and was completely unjust.[/p][/quote]"Not everyone agrees with EDL's point of view, granted, but Brighton hasn't even experienced the issues that EDL are all about. We claim to be the hugely diverse city who welcome people from just about any background, yet when it comes to Muslims, we have 2 mosque's, and Muslims account for less than 1.5% of the population. ELD are all about muslim-extremism and sharia law" So why then, out of interest, do they protest here? And not somewhere where the things they claim to be finding so upsetting are actually happening?[/p][/quote]Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already. And for the record, they weren't protesting, they were marching. It was Brighton that was protesting.[/p][/quote]"Just because EDL didn't start here it doesn't mean what they are about isn't affecting people in Brighton already" And yet the actual people of Brighton don't appear to think it is. Because it isn't. And why do these allegedly fine and innocent displays of patriotism not materialise as a nice street party or a fair? Why a march in a place that doesn't actually have any of the issues the people involved seem so worried about?[/p][/quote]How do you know it isn't? And how do you know what the people of Brighton are thinking? A small minority protested again the march, the rest went about their daily lives. I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton.[/p][/quote]"How do you know it isn't?" How do I know the people of Brighton aren't terrified of Muslims invading? Well the fact that they actively protest in not insignifcant numbers AGAINST such a viewpoint when people cvome in tfrom out of town with such views would be the first indicator. Also that we do not have any anti-Muslim feeling expressed in the city (and if you believe otherwise then the onus is on you to provide evidence that there is). "I don't think anyone here can proclaim to know what the people of Brighton want, and Sunday was not a representation of the people of Brighton." You might want to re-read that sentence and see if you can spot the irony in it. Ashles

10:57pm Wed 25 Apr 12

Terry K says...

How shocking that the UAF left wing thugs want to prevent free speech by throwing urine and broken bottles at marching children who were singing the national anthem, a new low for the left, Churchill once said, "the facists of the future will be the anti facists", how right he was!!.
How shocking that the UAF left wing thugs want to prevent free speech by throwing urine and broken bottles at marching children who were singing the national anthem, a new low for the left, Churchill once said, "the facists of the future will be the anti facists", how right he was!!. Terry K

6:51am Thu 26 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

Marching children?...Very emotive. The fascists are desperate to make everybody but themselves look like them. There were a couple of children on this march. Not sure when EDL decided they needed human shields. There were 'reports' of women and children being hit, but that came from EDL. The police recieved no reports of injuries. Some of the rightwingers on this thread are jokes. Why didnt you 'march'? This MFE event was an EDL event. Stop lying to people you claim to represent.
Marching children?...Very emotive. The fascists are desperate to make everybody but themselves look like them. There were a couple of children on this march. Not sure when EDL decided they needed human shields. There were 'reports' of women and children being hit, but that came from EDL. The police recieved no reports of injuries. Some of the rightwingers on this thread are jokes. Why didnt you 'march'? This MFE event was an EDL event. Stop lying to people you claim to represent. daveinprague

9:37am Thu 26 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

What the police say about children being hurt at the demo.....it didnt happen...its an EDL lie.....ive seen film of the demo now, and the EDL are clearly seen throwning cans at people on the side of Queens Road during their 'march'...Rightwinge
rs can keep trying to tell little lies about this march, claiming it was just a celebration of Englishness....bs... it wasnt..the lead up to the event was monitored on the interent pages....with many EDL members looking forward to fighting the UAF.... EDL, again, stop lying to the people you claim to represent.


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What the police say about children being hurt at the demo.....it didnt happen...its an EDL lie.....ive seen film of the demo now, and the EDL are clearly seen throwning cans at people on the side of Queens Road during their 'march'...Rightwinge rs can keep trying to tell little lies about this march, claiming it was just a celebration of Englishness....bs... it wasnt..the lead up to the event was monitored on the interent pages....with many EDL members looking forward to fighting the UAF.... EDL, again, stop lying to the people you claim to represent. https://fbcdn-sphoto s-a.akamaihd.net/hph otos-ak-ash3/557739_ 138373092954719_1000 03460889124_67272_67 3170978_n.jpg daveinprague

9:54am Thu 26 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

I saw the couple of children. One little girl in bright pink cradled against her dad. Who in his right mind exposes young children to what they knew was going to happen?

Irresponsible parenting. They ought to be ashamed of themselves using children like that!
I saw the couple of children. One little girl in bright pink cradled against her dad. Who in his right mind exposes young children to what they knew was going to happen? Irresponsible parenting. They ought to be ashamed of themselves using children like that! mimseycal

10:00am Thu 26 Apr 12

workingclassandproudofit says...

@The Old Crippel...you seem to agree with my 'stupid point' - there are no English cars any more, but not because 'idiots' like me sold them all (you don't know me, so in what way do you asset that I 'sold them'?), it's because the industry died when people bought foreign imports instead. If you are old you'll doubtless remember the 'I'm backing Britain' campaign in the late 60s, when Brits were urged to support British industry. Brits didn't heed the call, so here we are today with a manufacturing industry a fraction of what it was, our economy largely based on low paid 'services' and a trade deficit because we import far more than we export. I fail to see what either side, the EDL marchers or the masked louts who harangued them, actually achieved for England on Sunday, other than racking up the cost of policing.
@The Old Crippel...you seem to agree with my 'stupid point' - there are no English cars any more, but not because 'idiots' like me sold them all (you don't know me, so in what way do you asset that I 'sold them'?), it's because the industry died when people bought foreign imports instead. If you are old you'll doubtless remember the 'I'm backing Britain' campaign in the late 60s, when Brits were urged to support British industry. Brits didn't heed the call, so here we are today with a manufacturing industry a fraction of what it was, our economy largely based on low paid 'services' and a trade deficit because we import far more than we export. I fail to see what either side, the EDL marchers or the masked louts who harangued them, actually achieved for England on Sunday, other than racking up the cost of policing. workingclassandproudofit

11:11am Thu 26 Apr 12

voiceofthescoombe says...

Its not an innocent display of englishness its at the very best.

a lound angry shouty demo about english nationlism.
The website rather protests too much about having no links to racist/nationalism.
Its not an innocent display of englishness its at the very best. a lound angry shouty demo about english nationlism. The website rather protests too much about having no links to racist/nationalism. voiceofthescoombe

12:00pm Thu 26 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

'it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist'


Speak to the fascists about making OUR flag an embarrassment. NF/BNP use OUR Union flag for their aims, gthe EDL use our St Georges flag for their aims. People WILL be labelled racist because the fascists in the UK have associated OUR flag as a symbol of their racism. AND YOU KNOW THAT...stop trying to decieve...I realise its the fascist way, but British people are generally a little more intelligent than you imagine..
'it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist' Speak to the fascists about making OUR flag an embarrassment. NF/BNP use OUR Union flag for their aims, gthe EDL use our St Georges flag for their aims. People WILL be labelled racist because the fascists in the UK have associated OUR flag as a symbol of their racism. AND YOU KNOW THAT...stop trying to decieve...I realise its the fascist way, but British people are generally a little more intelligent than you imagine.. daveinprague

7:47pm Thu 26 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

'What shall we do this weekend love? I know let's take the kids on a march with a load of drunk racists and nazi sympathisers nothing controversial should happen there.' These brain dead morons shouldn't be allowed within 10 feet of children. ..........Thanks for that Steve...it says it all....you right wing numpties on here squeeling about 'woman and children being attacked' really are pathetic...I realise that its embarrassing to be run out of town, but some of the hysterical, and theatrical inputs on here have been laughable.....ive also seen video footage of metallic objects being thrown by the EDL at people lining Queens Road...way before the ALLEGED incident with the child. The police have no reports of any children being hurt, despite the claims of the EDL. It turns out, if you bother to look into this march, it was like a UK Nazi who's who march. Some notorious fascists were there. Im fine with these people being run out of town. Thank you Brighton, UAF, and anybody else who opposed this bs.
'What shall we do this weekend love? I know let's take the kids on a march with a load of drunk racists and nazi sympathisers nothing controversial should happen there.' These brain dead morons shouldn't be allowed within 10 feet of children. ..........Thanks for that Steve...it says it all....you right wing numpties on here squeeling about 'woman and children being attacked' really are pathetic...I realise that its embarrassing to be run out of town, but some of the hysterical, and theatrical inputs on here have been laughable.....ive also seen video footage of metallic objects being thrown by the EDL at people lining Queens Road...way before the ALLEGED incident with the child. The police have no reports of any children being hurt, despite the claims of the EDL. It turns out, if you bother to look into this march, it was like a UK Nazi who's who march. Some notorious fascists were there. Im fine with these people being run out of town. Thank you Brighton, UAF, and anybody else who opposed this bs. daveinprague

3:05am Fri 27 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

true-brightonian wrote:
Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia)

This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated.
Council communists and non-Marxist libertarian communists and anarcho-communists oppose the ideas of a vanguard party and a transition stage, and advocate for the construction of full communism to begin immediately upon the abolition of capitalism.
There is a very wide range of theories amongst those particular communists in regards to how to build the types of institutions that would replace the various economic engines (such as food distribution, education, and hospitals) as they exist under capitalist systems—or even whether to do so at all.
Some of these communists have specific plans for the types of administrative bodies that would replace the current ones, while always qualifying that these bodies would be decentralised and worker-owned, just as they currently are within the activist movements themselves. Others have no concrete set of post-revolutionary blueprints at all, claiming instead that they simply trust that the world's workers and poor will figure out proper modes of distribution and wide-scale production, and also coordination, entirely on their own, without the need for any structured "replacements" for capitalist state-based control.[

So in truth, you want to get rid of the current political set up and just bungle your way though life without law or order, and without the current trading set up around the world, Millions would starve under this messed up concept of communism, as we, not you sorted it all out.
[quote][p][bold]true-brightonian[/bold] wrote: Seems many EDL types posting here don't know the definition of fascism. Fascism is not just about having strong opinions. "Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics. Fascism seeks to purify the nation of foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture." (Wikipedia) This looks very close to what the MfE/EDL stand for with their opposition to Islam and immigraiton and their appeals to national identity and nothing like the UAF whatsoever. Please stop using the word fascist to describe the UAF, etc., you are looking both confused and badly educated.[/p][/quote]Council communists and non-Marxist libertarian communists and anarcho-communists oppose the ideas of a vanguard party and a transition stage, and advocate for the construction of full communism to begin immediately upon the abolition of capitalism. There is a very wide range of theories amongst those particular communists in regards to how to build the types of institutions that would replace the various economic engines (such as food distribution, education, and hospitals) as they exist under capitalist systems—or even whether to do so at all. Some of these communists have specific plans for the types of administrative bodies that would replace the current ones, while always qualifying that these bodies would be decentralised and worker-owned, just as they currently are within the activist movements themselves. Others have no concrete set of post-revolutionary blueprints at all, claiming instead that they simply trust that the world's workers and poor will figure out proper modes of distribution and wide-scale production, and also coordination, entirely on their own, without the need for any structured "replacements" for capitalist state-based control.[ So in truth, you want to get rid of the current political set up and just bungle your way though life without law or order, and without the current trading set up around the world, Millions would starve under this messed up concept of communism, as we, not you sorted it all out. worthing saint

3:19am Fri 27 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

daveinprague wrote:
'it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist'


Speak to the fascists about making OUR flag an embarrassment. NF/BNP use OUR Union flag for their aims, gthe EDL use our St Georges flag for their aims. People WILL be labelled racist because the fascists in the UK have associated OUR flag as a symbol of their racism. AND YOU KNOW THAT...stop trying to decieve...I realise its the fascist way, but British people are generally a little more intelligent than you imagine..
OUR FLAG!!

you scumbag! the uaf I have met have spat on OUR flag, told us to burn our poppies.
You call us racist and fascist.
Take a long hard look at those you support before passing judgement.
It is because of people like you, and the far right, that true patriots are labled fascist, and racist.
I would lay money on the fact, that you would rather spit on the flag, than wave it proudly, as an Englishman.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: 'it is the right of every English person to fly the flag without being branded a racist' Speak to the fascists about making OUR flag an embarrassment. NF/BNP use OUR Union flag for their aims, gthe EDL use our St Georges flag for their aims. People WILL be labelled racist because the fascists in the UK have associated OUR flag as a symbol of their racism. AND YOU KNOW THAT...stop trying to decieve...I realise its the fascist way, but British people are generally a little more intelligent than you imagine..[/p][/quote]OUR FLAG!! you scumbag! the uaf I have met have spat on OUR flag, told us to burn our poppies. You call us racist and fascist. Take a long hard look at those you support before passing judgement. It is because of people like you, and the far right, that true patriots are labled fascist, and racist. I would lay money on the fact, that you would rather spit on the flag, than wave it proudly, as an Englishman. worthing saint

6:32am Fri 27 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

True patriots?....bull...
it was a fascist march, stop trying to decieve the people you claim to represent. You would lose your bet. Im an Ex Royal Navy signalman. The reason it is 'spat on' by people like the UAF is because Nazi sympathisers such as yourself have made OUR flag an icon of British Nazis....thanks....d
ont bother bringing your bs to Brighton again.
True patriots?....bull... it was a fascist march, stop trying to decieve the people you claim to represent. You would lose your bet. Im an Ex Royal Navy signalman. The reason it is 'spat on' by people like the UAF is because Nazi sympathisers such as yourself have made OUR flag an icon of British Nazis....thanks....d ont bother bringing your bs to Brighton again. daveinprague

8:18am Fri 27 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

and yes, ive taken a LONG HARD look at the fascists of EDL/BNP/NF over the years, and YOU PEOPLE try this same BS over and over again. I support the residents of Brighton, who, despite you wanting to imagine everybody in the city is a leninist. You were run out of town. You were humiliated. Your attempt at having an 'English day out' was seen by the population as BS. Live with it.
and yes, ive taken a LONG HARD look at the fascists of EDL/BNP/NF over the years, and YOU PEOPLE try this same BS over and over again. I support the residents of Brighton, who, despite you wanting to imagine everybody in the city is a leninist. You were run out of town. You were humiliated. Your attempt at having an 'English day out' was seen by the population as BS. Live with it. daveinprague

9:21am Fri 27 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

http://www.youtube.c
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uM

Video PROOF of the EDL/MFE Fascists throwing metallic objects and Brighton anti marchers in Queens Road....some time before the 'left started throwing bottles'....
Fascism = Lying to the people you claim to represent.
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=JcJlrhcQQ uM Video PROOF of the EDL/MFE Fascists throwing metallic objects and Brighton anti marchers in Queens Road....some time before the 'left started throwing bottles'.... Fascism = Lying to the people you claim to represent. daveinprague

8:58pm Fri 27 Apr 12

Terry K says...

Notice how the English hating indoctrinated lefties, immediately brand everyone a racist nazi lover if they express a different viewpoint to theirs, and notice how multi cultural loving trendie lefties, live miles and miles away from the people they claim to speak up for, Billy bragg (Dorset), Joe Brand (posh Dulwich), lilly allen (cotswolds) Brighton anti facists etc, ha ha the hypocrisy of the left, knows no bounds!!.
Notice how the English hating indoctrinated lefties, immediately brand everyone a racist nazi lover if they express a different viewpoint to theirs, and notice how multi cultural loving trendie lefties, live miles and miles away from the people they claim to speak up for, Billy bragg (Dorset), Joe Brand (posh Dulwich), lilly allen (cotswolds) Brighton anti facists etc, ha ha the hypocrisy of the left, knows no bounds!!. Terry K

10:59pm Fri 27 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

Notice how the people most English people point and laugh at, immediately start talking bs, especially after being humiliated yet again.

March with known fascists, be seen as fascists. Stop lying to the people you claim to represent.
Notice how the people most English people point and laugh at, immediately start talking bs, especially after being humiliated yet again. March with known fascists, be seen as fascists. Stop lying to the people you claim to represent. daveinprague

2:27am Sat 28 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

daveinprague wrote:
True patriots?....bull...

it was a fascist march, stop trying to decieve the people you claim to represent. You would lose your bet. Im an Ex Royal Navy signalman. The reason it is 'spat on' by people like the UAF is because Nazi sympathisers such as yourself have made OUR flag an icon of British Nazis....thanks....d

ont bother bringing your bs to Brighton again.
You don't read very well do you, "It's people like you , and the far right"
My brother was army, my father was navy, my grand father was navy, my great grandfather was navy.
Conflicts , The Falklands and the 1st and 2nd world wars.
I was brought up with, this patriotism, within my family, so I must ask how YOU can condone someone spitting on our national flag.
How you can condone someone telling me, to burn my poppy, a symbol for all those that have fought and died for this country, as a member/ex member of this countries armed services, I ask you to explain your hatred, of patriots. and I don’t mean the far right, just everyday normal people who consider themselves as patriots.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: True patriots?....bull... it was a fascist march, stop trying to decieve the people you claim to represent. You would lose your bet. Im an Ex Royal Navy signalman. The reason it is 'spat on' by people like the UAF is because Nazi sympathisers such as yourself have made OUR flag an icon of British Nazis....thanks....d ont bother bringing your bs to Brighton again.[/p][/quote]You don't read very well do you, "It's people like you , and the far right" My brother was army, my father was navy, my grand father was navy, my great grandfather was navy. Conflicts , The Falklands and the 1st and 2nd world wars. I was brought up with, this patriotism, within my family, so I must ask how YOU can condone someone spitting on our national flag. How you can condone someone telling me, to burn my poppy, a symbol for all those that have fought and died for this country, as a member/ex member of this countries armed services, I ask you to explain your hatred, of patriots. and I don’t mean the far right, just everyday normal people who consider themselves as patriots. worthing saint

9:23am Sat 28 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

If you MARCH alongside members of the FAR RIGHT....YOU ARE THE FAR RIGHT.
If you MARCH alongside members of the FAR RIGHT....YOU ARE THE FAR RIGHT. daveinprague

9:35am Sat 28 Apr 12

daveinprague says...

Of all the St Georges events, you CHOSE to march alongside KNOWN Nazis of the British fascist movement, and drunk racists through a liberal city, knowing you would not be welcome. People like you over and over again attempt to cloud your involvement with the far right movement with the same old crap ' im just a patriot'....bull....
.This march was heralded on Far Right pages for a couple of weeks up to the event...I know it, and more importantly, YOU KNOW IT. Your family who fought in WW2 must be thrilled that you marched with known British nazis, and drunk racists deploying the Nazi salute. I consider myself a patriot. I SERVED in the RN, and wouldnt dream of being seen alongside that vermin. Tell, me...what was the actual point of the march?
Of all the St Georges events, you CHOSE to march alongside KNOWN Nazis of the British fascist movement, and drunk racists through a liberal city, knowing you would not be welcome. People like you over and over again attempt to cloud your involvement with the far right movement with the same old crap ' im just a patriot'....bull.... .This march was heralded on Far Right pages for a couple of weeks up to the event...I know it, and more importantly, YOU KNOW IT. Your family who fought in WW2 must be thrilled that you marched with known British nazis, and drunk racists deploying the Nazi salute. I consider myself a patriot. I SERVED in the RN, and wouldnt dream of being seen alongside that vermin. Tell, me...what was the actual point of the march? daveinprague

1:07am Sun 29 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

daveinprague wrote:
If you MARCH alongside members of the FAR RIGHT....YOU ARE THE FAR RIGHT.
WOW your ignorance is infinite, your obvious knowledge of far right web sites, would suggest, you have more than a passing interest in attacking anyone who would consider themselves patriotic.
Your lack of condemning those that spit on our countries flag screams, almost as loud, as your comments about Brighton being a liberal city, reserved only for the liberal left.
You may well have claim, to have served this country, but your dis-service to our national flag, smacks of hypocrisy.
Your overall assumption that," if you march with the far right you are far right", is flawed at this point. As for your own obvious hypocrisy, about the people we claim to support. I never claimed to support anyone, I never claimed to represent anyone, I just wanted to show my appreciation, and respect for our heritage.
You claim to support/represent the people of Brighton, When in truth, which is what you claim you are looking for, is flawed. it only stands to push the undecided, further from your cause. With your reluctance to condone those that would spit on OUR national flag.
Your reluctance to accept that there are, Patriots in this great country of our’s, that are NOT affiliated with the far right, is just another nail in YOUR coffin.
As for the point of the march, one word, PRIDE.
[quote][p][bold]daveinprague[/bold] wrote: If you MARCH alongside members of the FAR RIGHT....YOU ARE THE FAR RIGHT.[/p][/quote]WOW your ignorance is infinite, your obvious knowledge of far right web sites, would suggest, you have more than a passing interest in attacking anyone who would consider themselves patriotic. Your lack of condemning those that spit on our countries flag screams, almost as loud, as your comments about Brighton being a liberal city, reserved only for the liberal left. You may well have claim, to have served this country, but your dis-service to our national flag, smacks of hypocrisy. Your overall assumption that," if you march with the far right you are far right", is flawed at this point. As for your own obvious hypocrisy, about the people we claim to support. I never claimed to support anyone, I never claimed to represent anyone, I just wanted to show my appreciation, and respect for our heritage. You claim to support/represent the people of Brighton, When in truth, which is what you claim you are looking for, is flawed. it only stands to push the undecided, further from your cause. With your reluctance to condone those that would spit on OUR national flag. Your reluctance to accept that there are, Patriots in this great country of our’s, that are NOT affiliated with the far right, is just another nail in YOUR coffin. As for the point of the march, one word, PRIDE. worthing saint

1:12am Sun 29 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

PRIDE
According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, proud comes from late Old English prut, probably from Old French prud "brave, valiant" (11th century) (which became preux in French), from Late Latin term prodis "useful", which is compared with the Latin prodesse "be of use". The sense of "having a high opinion of oneself", not in French, may reflect the Anglo-Saxons' opinion of the Norman knights who called themselves "proud", like the French knights preux
PRIDE According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, proud comes from late Old English prut, probably from Old French prud "brave, valiant" (11th century) (which became preux in French), from Late Latin term prodis "useful", which is compared with the Latin prodesse "be of use".[4] The sense of "having a high opinion of oneself", not in French, may reflect the Anglo-Saxons' opinion of the Norman knights who called themselves "proud", like the French knights preux worthing saint

5:15am Sun 29 Apr 12

Robbadob says...

It is the manner in which those who took part in the MfE chose to express their pride that resulted in the opposition it faced. When they arrived at the station they spat at someone whose ethnic origin was not white, sang in an oh so humorous way we're not racist any more and hoped to be able to say that for a couple of hours they owned the streets of Brighton. At the end of a parade in which three marchers sustained minor injuries and the route altered they went home.
The reaction since has included Bring on the next EDL / M4E parade and next time I go as EDL or not at all as well as the threats I've posted above.
Anyone would've thought one of the marchers had died because of the strength of the reaction on various sites including Casuals United blog, which advertised the march at least four times. This site is full of support for the EDL and contains many racist comments and threatening posts to anyone who disagrees,
Have you any evidence of anyone spitting on the flag?
If previous marches had not included racist abuse then there would've been no opposition.
No one ever started a riot at a morris dance.
It is the manner in which those who took part in the MfE chose to express their pride that resulted in the opposition it faced. When they arrived at the station they spat at someone whose ethnic origin was not white, sang in an oh so humorous way we're not racist any more and hoped to be able to say that for a couple of hours they owned the streets of Brighton. At the end of a parade in which three marchers sustained minor injuries and the route altered they went home. The reaction since has included Bring on the next EDL / M4E parade and next time I go as EDL or not at all as well as the threats I've posted above. Anyone would've thought one of the marchers had died because of the strength of the reaction on various sites including Casuals United blog, which advertised the march at least four times. This site is full of support for the EDL and contains many racist comments and threatening posts to anyone who disagrees, Have you any evidence of anyone spitting on the flag? If previous marches had not included racist abuse then there would've been no opposition. No one ever started a riot at a morris dance. Robbadob

2:56am Mon 30 Apr 12

worthing saint says...

Have you not read my post’s.
Or do you really need to see photographic evidence of the uaf spitting on our national flag.

"you scumbag! the uaf I have met have spat on OUR flag, told us to burn our poppies.
You call us racist and fascist."

I can name names if that is what you really want.
Although that would do no good to man or beast, you have after all made up your mind, that everyone who attended the march is affiliated to the edl.
I see in your post, that when people arrived at Brighton station, they spat at someone who wasn’t white, I dare say, you also have no proof, semantics. you say, I say, we say, they say.
For the sake of sanity, let’s keep comments, to provable facts.
You are all very quick to quote, non march for England web sites, however, none have taken quotes direct from the march for England site alone. Because there are no racist comments on that site, in fact it calls for every Englishman/woman, no matter what creed or religion, to join the march.
Obviously this won’t sit well with the liberal left, that believe we are all, far right neo nazis. and as such no comments are posted.
Have you not read my post’s. Or do you really need to see photographic evidence of the uaf spitting on our national flag. "you scumbag! the uaf I have met have spat on OUR flag, told us to burn our poppies. You call us racist and fascist." I can name names if that is what you really want. Although that would do no good to man or beast, you have after all made up your mind, that everyone who attended the march is affiliated to the edl. I see in your post, that when people arrived at Brighton station, they spat at someone who wasn’t white, I dare say, you also have no proof, semantics. you say, I say, we say, they say. For the sake of sanity, let’s keep comments, to provable facts. You are all very quick to quote, non march for England web sites, however, none have taken quotes direct from the march for England site alone. Because there are no racist comments on that site, in fact it calls for every Englishman/woman, no matter what creed or religion, to join the march. Obviously this won’t sit well with the liberal left, that believe we are all, far right neo nazis. and as such no comments are posted. worthing saint

8:11am Mon 30 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

As you say Worthing Saint ... and to quote "you say, I say, we say, they say."
As you say Worthing Saint ... and to quote "you say, I say, we say, they say." mimseycal

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