Police horses attacked during March for England violence

NICE: Demonstrators on yesterday's March for England

NICE: Demonstrators on yesterday's March for England

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Two police officers were injured and police horses attacked during yesterday's violent March for England and its counter-protest.

Protesters fought hand-to-hand battles with police as they blocked the course of the march through Brighton yesterday.

According to police figures, at least 400 anti-fascist counter-demonstrators prevented up to 140 March for England supporters from following their planned route yesterday.

The two injured officers, both male constables, received head injuries during tense scenes, with one being admitted to hospital for treatment before later being discharged.

Several police horses received superficial cuts and bruises when attacked by protestors.

The march started at Brighton Station and progressed along Queen's Road. It had been expected to continue past the clock Tower and go along the seafront before returning to Victoria Gardens.

But officers have confirmed to The Argus that the strength of opposition in Queen's Road meant they decided to divert the parade down Church Street.

Superintendent Steve Whitton, of Sussex Police, said afterwards: "A strong police presence was necessary in order to ensure that the event took place and the risk of disorder and injury was minimised.

"We had several hundred officers available, with support from surrounding forces including mounted officers, and our priority throughout was on public safety whilst at the same time enabling both the marchers and counter-protesters to express their views within the law."

He added: "Our priority throughout the day has been ensuring public safety whilst allowing peaceful protest, minimising disruption to the city, local communities and businesses, preventing crime and disorder and providing a safe and secure environment for the protesters and the surrounding community.

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"However, we were concerned that there were some people at this event whose intention was not to peacefully protest. We were able to restrain these groups and individuals with a firm, robust but fair policing response, but this did require a major police presence at several points."

Marchers later complained that bottles of urine had been thrown at them, as well as plates of food from cafes and cans of drink.

They made unconfirmed claims that two children and a woman on the parade needed medical attention.

Matt Silva, a spokesman for March for England, said he was "completely appalled" at the level of violence directed at his members, saying women and children had missiles thrown at them. He said there was no provocation from any of the marchers who sang the national anthem because it was the Queen's birthday on Saturday.

But by the end of the day, only three arrests had been made after chaotic clashes in central Brighton.

Previous marches by the group, which claims to campaign for a bank holiday to mark St George's Day, has in the past ended with anti-Islamic chanting and the banners of the far-right English Defence League (EDL) being unfurled in the street.

A spokesman for Sussex Police said no EDL chanting or emblems had been seen.

Since 2010, the annual march has attracted a counter-demonstration by anti-fascist activists.

Last year, an estimated 100 counter-demonstrators had opposed 300 marchers.

More than 4,000 readers kept up to date with what was happening in the city centre on our liveblog yesterday, which can be replayed below.

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12:02pm Mon 23 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

*settles down with a few cans to continue reading the inane comments as no doubt they will continue flooding in*
*settles down with a few cans to continue reading the inane comments as no doubt they will continue flooding in* All 9 of me
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12:06pm Mon 23 Apr 12

HOVEPARKRESIDENT says...

Sounds ghastly. I'm glad I stayed in the more tranquil and peaceful Hove Park yesterday.
Saying that the kids on the swings and slides could have been a little quieter, it was Sunday!
Sounds ghastly. I'm glad I stayed in the more tranquil and peaceful Hove Park yesterday. Saying that the kids on the swings and slides could have been a little quieter, it was Sunday! HOVEPARKRESIDENT
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12:07pm Mon 23 Apr 12

lordenglandofsussex says...

What this country needs is the young and old to march en mass with the George Cross or Union flag in hand in a cordial and dignified fashion.

The ultra-left wing rent a mob would then be silenced by an overwhelming sense of defeat since throwing expletives at pensioners and children wouldn't work!
What this country needs is the young and old to march en mass with the George Cross or Union flag in hand in a cordial and dignified fashion. The ultra-left wing rent a mob would then be silenced by an overwhelming sense of defeat since throwing expletives at pensioners and children wouldn't work! lordenglandofsussex
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12:09pm Mon 23 Apr 12

spider72 says...

I can confirm that the young girl that got hit on the head by bottles thrown by thugs was tended by the Police Medic
I can confirm that the young girl that got hit on the head by bottles thrown by thugs was tended by the Police Medic spider72
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12:12pm Mon 23 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

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It's quite clear who was doing the bottle-throwing in this video.
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=JcJlrhcQQ uM It's quite clear who was doing the bottle-throwing in this video. gaz scott
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12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12

EDL Supporter says...

I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest.
I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest. EDL Supporter
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12:21pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Andy R says...

I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town.

A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio
ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year.

I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns!
I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town. A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year. I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns! Andy R
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12:31pm Mon 23 Apr 12

fretlessbass says...

The fascists of the allegedly left and avowedly right are on the march again, just as they were in the 1970s. I only hope that the police deal with them in the firmest manner that they are able to within the law. Rather than turning our streets into battlegrounds these ignorant, immature egotists should be directed to an industrial estate and allowed to battle it out until hopefully they are either all dead or seriously injured. An end to EDL, BNP and the risibly named Socialist Workers Party - what a prize!
The fascists of the allegedly left and avowedly right are on the march again, just as they were in the 1970s. I only hope that the police deal with them in the firmest manner that they are able to within the law. Rather than turning our streets into battlegrounds these ignorant, immature egotists should be directed to an industrial estate and allowed to battle it out until hopefully they are either all dead or seriously injured. An end to EDL, BNP and the risibly named Socialist Workers Party - what a prize! fretlessbass
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12:33pm Mon 23 Apr 12

thewhitehawker says...

The Argus video is rubbish , i could have recorded a much better one on my cheap mobile phone ! Glad i did not go on the march with all those crusty smelly dropouts shouting abuse at the march . The air must of be horrendous with the smell of their breath !
The Argus video is rubbish , i could have recorded a much better one on my cheap mobile phone ! Glad i did not go on the march with all those crusty smelly dropouts shouting abuse at the march . The air must of be horrendous with the smell of their breath ! thewhitehawker
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12:37pm Mon 23 Apr 12

OP8 says...

I did some background research reading of the EDF / MfE forums and Facebook pages before Sunday and they were all encouraging their members to dress like anti-fascist protesters and infiltrate their groups to rouse trouble and incite violence
I did some background research reading of the EDF / MfE forums and Facebook pages before Sunday and they were all encouraging their members to dress like anti-fascist protesters and infiltrate their groups to rouse trouble and incite violence OP8
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12:39pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Angryoldman says...

thewhitehawker wrote:
The Argus video is rubbish , i could have recorded a much better one on my cheap mobile phone ! Glad i did not go on the march with all those crusty smelly dropouts shouting abuse at the march . The air must of be horrendous with the smell of their breath !
You just beat me to it. Barely audible mumbling to a grainy shaky film. Not worthy of a newspaper.
[quote][p][bold]thewhitehawker[/bold] wrote: The Argus video is rubbish , i could have recorded a much better one on my cheap mobile phone ! Glad i did not go on the march with all those crusty smelly dropouts shouting abuse at the march . The air must of be horrendous with the smell of their breath ![/p][/quote]You just beat me to it. Barely audible mumbling to a grainy shaky film. Not worthy of a newspaper. Angryoldman
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12:45pm Mon 23 Apr 12

clubrob6 says...

The Anti fasist activists caused most of the trouble,they hide amongst the viewing public so the police cant do much untill they cause trouble.The police did a great job.From what i seen most people were in support of the marchers,it was the Anti fasist activists that were the problem perhaps they should march too in an organised manner rather than hiding in the crowds.But as ever youve got people with extreme views on both sides,although i supported the march there was a element that did not realise the point of it and had views too extreme.
The Anti fasist activists caused most of the trouble,they hide amongst the viewing public so the police cant do much untill they cause trouble.The police did a great job.From what i seen most people were in support of the marchers,it was the Anti fasist activists that were the problem perhaps they should march too in an organised manner rather than hiding in the crowds.But as ever youve got people with extreme views on both sides,although i supported the march there was a element that did not realise the point of it and had views too extreme. clubrob6
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12:50pm Mon 23 Apr 12

fretlessbass says...

EDL Supporter says...
12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12

I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest.
'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron.
EDL Supporter says... 12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12 I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest. 'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron. fretlessbass
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12:53pm Mon 23 Apr 12

thewhitehawker says...

A sensible comment from myself is that Why not let the march take place ? It is not very long and not many people go about 150, and yet 400 or so turn up to block it and stretch the polices budget and resources to the limit . This is irresponsible of the opposing group to the police . It is funny how the opposing group are so willing to hate the other group when the two groups are probably closely related in family being all english and all in all typical English blood more likely to fight their own kind than get bothered in turning up to say oppose a muslim cleric preaching anti-white racism outside to followers . But that is english folks , and this is england . The blood is not thick enough !
A sensible comment from myself is that Why not let the march take place ? It is not very long and not many people go about 150, and yet 400 or so turn up to block it and stretch the polices budget and resources to the limit . This is irresponsible of the opposing group to the police . It is funny how the opposing group are so willing to hate the other group when the two groups are probably closely related in family being all english and all in all typical English blood more likely to fight their own kind than get bothered in turning up to say oppose a muslim cleric preaching anti-white racism outside to followers . But that is english folks , and this is england . The blood is not thick enough ! thewhitehawker
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12:55pm Mon 23 Apr 12

toldsloth says...

AAs somebody who thinks the whole thing (both sides) is stupid, I'd like the following explained please;

Why are masked and hooded protestors allowed - it is clear from the TV footage that there were many people so attired. If you are not intent on causing trouble then why hide your face. I think people should be given a warning to remove the coverings or face arrest and that should be the case for ANY protest or counter protest.

Incidentally before somebody cries "foul", I also don't agree with the current trend for Police to hide their faces.........

A question to those who blame the Police for causing injury or being heavy handed; would you prefer them to just stand back and let people do whatever they want? The Police are there to preserve order. They are there to prevent two opposing and quite clearly antagonistic factions from causing trouble. If they left both sides to their own devices I have no doubt we would have seen serious injury and damage to property. Be thankful the Police ARE there to protect the average law abiding citizen.

EDL supporter; firstly your spelling and grammar needs work but also I'm having trouble reconciling your EDL support with your intentions to get involved in the "SmashEDO" protests. Obviously you simply like gravitating towards trouble and deserve any sanctions you may suffer from the long arm of the law as a result.

While on the subject - I think it's crucial that free speech and protest should be a right however I and many others now think it's time to start facing up to reality; if you are going to organise a protest that is almost certain to result in trouble - EDL, SmashEDO etc then the organising body should also be held financially responsible for the cost of policing the event and any damage to private property. Why should I have to pay increased taxes to preserve the right for YOU to cause mayhem? Why should I and the rest of Joe Public have to suffer the consequences of left or right wing groups facing off about issues that seemingly almost always lead to trouble?

Enough is enough and I hope that Sussex Police use every means possible to stamp on anybody from either side HARD especially if the SmashEDO protest is allowed to go ahead.
AAs somebody who thinks the whole thing (both sides) is stupid, I'd like the following explained please; Why are masked and hooded protestors allowed - it is clear from the TV footage that there were many people so attired. If you are not intent on causing trouble then why hide your face. I think people should be given a warning to remove the coverings or face arrest and that should be the case for ANY protest or counter protest. Incidentally before somebody cries "foul", I also don't agree with the current trend for Police to hide their faces......... A question to those who blame the Police for causing injury or being heavy handed; would you prefer them to just stand back and let people do whatever they want? The Police are there to preserve order. They are there to prevent two opposing and quite clearly antagonistic factions from causing trouble. If they left both sides to their own devices I have no doubt we would have seen serious injury and damage to property. Be thankful the Police ARE there to protect the average law abiding citizen. EDL supporter; firstly your spelling and grammar needs work but also I'm having trouble reconciling your EDL support with your intentions to get involved in the "SmashEDO" protests. Obviously you simply like gravitating towards trouble and deserve any sanctions you may suffer from the long arm of the law as a result. While on the subject - I think it's crucial that free speech and protest should be a right however I and many others now think it's time to start facing up to reality; if you are going to organise a protest that is almost certain to result in trouble - EDL, SmashEDO etc then the organising body should also be held financially responsible for the cost of policing the event and any damage to private property. Why should I have to pay increased taxes to preserve the right for YOU to cause mayhem? Why should I and the rest of Joe Public have to suffer the consequences of left or right wing groups facing off about issues that seemingly almost always lead to trouble? Enough is enough and I hope that Sussex Police use every means possible to stamp on anybody from either side HARD especially if the SmashEDO protest is allowed to go ahead. toldsloth
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1:03pm Mon 23 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

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1:06pm Mon 23 Apr 12

JHunty says...

Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott.

It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus.

You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates.
If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument.

You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead.

I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour.

As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer.
Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott. It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus. You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates. If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument. You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead. I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour. As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer. JHunty
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1:24pm Mon 23 Apr 12

sbiscorrupt says...

@toldsloth...

The police already 'stamp down hard', even when not required to do so...It's often their 'weapon' of choice!

http://www.theargus.
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@toldsloth... The police already 'stamp down hard', even when not required to do so...It's often their 'weapon' of choice! http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/9663356.P C_accused_of_assault _said_kicking_was_hi s_only_choice/ sbiscorrupt
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1:28pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Andy R says...

JHunty wrote:
Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott. It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus. You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates. If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument. You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead. I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour. As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer.
What are you even talking about? I haven't "instigated violence". Are you in a position to challenge the information I gave in my post, or are you just indulging in your favourite (and slightly weird) pasttime of stalking me?
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott. It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus. You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates. If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument. You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead. I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour. As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer.[/p][/quote]What are you even talking about? I haven't "instigated violence". Are you in a position to challenge the information I gave in my post, or are you just indulging in your favourite (and slightly weird) pasttime of stalking me? Andy R
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1:35pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

Andy R wrote:
I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town.

A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio

ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year.

I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns!
Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town. A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year. I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns![/p][/quote]Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour. Fight Back
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1:45pm Mon 23 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

Fight Back wrote:
Andy R wrote:
I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town.

A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio


ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year.

I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns!
Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour.
so, you condemn thugs in masks, but endorse brutality by masked thugs .... pretty twisted logic there.
[quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town. A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year. I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns![/p][/quote]Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour.[/p][/quote]so, you condemn thugs in masks, but endorse brutality by masked thugs .... pretty twisted logic there. All 9 of me
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1:46pm Mon 23 Apr 12

PorkBoat says...

The UAF are state sponsored thugs. Their definition of "Fascist" is whoever they want it to be. Beware of these lunatics, in another era, they would have been guards in Stalin's gulags, or denounced your family to the NKVD for having "counter-revolutiona
ry thoughts".
The UAF are state sponsored thugs. Their definition of "Fascist" is whoever they want it to be. Beware of these lunatics, in another era, they would have been guards in Stalin's gulags, or denounced your family to the NKVD for having "counter-revolutiona ry thoughts". PorkBoat
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1:49pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

All 9 of me wrote:
Fight Back wrote:
Andy R wrote:
I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town.

A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio



ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year.

I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns!
Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour.
so, you condemn thugs in masks, but endorse brutality by masked thugs .... pretty twisted logic there.
All the police are identifiable and have to follow certain procedures - the thugs aren't and don't.

I condemn both the right wing racist thugs who marched and the left wing mindless thugs who lined the street. Indeed, those that lined the street are clearly too stupid to understand that it's the reaction the racist thugs wanted. It gives their march publicity. If the march had just happened and everyone had ignored it then they would achieved nothing. Well done the left wingers, unions and our MP for giving racist thugs a platform to be seen on !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: I didnt see any police horses attacked. I saw plenty of occasions when they were used to attack passive demonstrators, most notably in Queens Road. Batons and pepper spray were also used. There is ample footage on Youtube which shows this. It was quite shocking to see how much force the police were prepared to use to get a few dozen racists through town. A couple of myths to address. When MfE WAS just a march to mark St Georges Day it attracted no counter-demonstratio ns at all. It was only after it became a vehicle for the EDL that this changed. Yes it was good that local people were not subject to abuse and threats from the fascists this year (unlike last). This is precisely because the "march" was effectively drowned out and the police had to make sure they all left as quickly as possible afterwards rather than being allowed to drink and roam at will long into the night as last year. I would be very dubious about any claims made by the EDL/MfE about injuries. On their social networks last night they were trying to claim that their march had received a warm and happy welcome from Brightonians blowing whistles and sounding horns![/p][/quote]Wow - what a load of rubbish !!!! A very quick search of YouTube brings up a video of masked thugs shouting obscenities and using threatening behaviour. Despite being asked by police officers to move to the pavement they continued with their actions. They were then forcibly moved to the pavement by mounted officers. No doubt they're the idiots claiming the policing was too heavy handed. The right wing racist thugs on one hand and left wing violent thugs on the other - many too cowardly to show their faces. The police should have used the tactics they use on the continent - water canon, mounted charges, gas and batons. Both sets of thugs would have gone home with bleeding heads and broken bones and hopefully think about their moronic behaviour.[/p][/quote]so, you condemn thugs in masks, but endorse brutality by masked thugs .... pretty twisted logic there.[/p][/quote]All the police are identifiable and have to follow certain procedures - the thugs aren't and don't. I condemn both the right wing racist thugs who marched and the left wing mindless thugs who lined the street. Indeed, those that lined the street are clearly too stupid to understand that it's the reaction the racist thugs wanted. It gives their march publicity. If the march had just happened and everyone had ignored it then they would achieved nothing. Well done the left wingers, unions and our MP for giving racist thugs a platform to be seen on !!!!! Fight Back
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1:50pm Mon 23 Apr 12

PorkBoat says...

Re:- Correction to previous post. The UAF's definition of "Fascist" is whoever their Common Purpose controlled masters deem it to be.
Re:- Correction to previous post. The UAF's definition of "Fascist" is whoever their Common Purpose controlled masters deem it to be. PorkBoat
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1:55pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Russ says...

JHunty wrote:
Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott.

It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus.

You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates.
If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument.

You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead.

I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour.

As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer.
Agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Sorry Andy R you are as usual delusional, as well as Gaz Scott. It was the groups demonstrating against the march that had put posters up all around town calling on people to oppose the march in any way they felt comfortable with, a clear incitement to violence. The UAF leadership refused to condemn the violence shown by their members when interviewed by The Argus. You were responsible for the violence Andy you and your mates. If the only way you have of disagreeing with people is to physically attack them you have automatically lost the argument. You are all ready myth making, claiming the whole of Brighton rose up and that thousands of people followed your lead. I recently read Ian Bones autobiography, his problem was he was all tactics and no strategy. Its the same with you, you think that injuring police men and animals gives you a great victory on the day, what you dont take into account is the long term affect of your actions, which is that people are disgusted with your behaviour. As SmashEdo have found out more people are turned off by the sort of violence instigated by you and your mates than are turned on by it. You will allways be able to attract a small number of thugs to your demos but the majority of people shun your methods and see quite clearly that you have nothing to offer.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% Russ
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2:05pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Vitriola says...

3 people arrested. 3!!!

Move along, nothing to see here.
3 people arrested. 3!!! Move along, nothing to see here. Vitriola
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2:07pm Mon 23 Apr 12

godwinfan says...

Happy St Georges day all you happy people.
Happy St Georges day all you happy people. godwinfan
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2:16pm Mon 23 Apr 12

stepford says...

I was appalled by the behaviour of the minority of the anti-fascists. However, I didn't see any children and they DID provoke people from the start. I have video proof. Both as bad as each other. I am pleased that I took part, to show my opposition to these racists. I am also glad that I left when bottles were thrown. Not something I wish to be associated with. Some idiots made us look bad. I hope they stay home next time. Plenty of peaceful people attended. We don't need yobs joining in.
I was appalled by the behaviour of the minority of the anti-fascists. However, I didn't see any children and they DID provoke people from the start. I have video proof. Both as bad as each other. I am pleased that I took part, to show my opposition to these racists. I am also glad that I left when bottles were thrown. Not something I wish to be associated with. Some idiots made us look bad. I hope they stay home next time. Plenty of peaceful people attended. We don't need yobs joining in. stepford
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2:22pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Ashles says...

Lovely photo.
Next to 'pride' and 'patriotism' in the dictionary I think they should certainly use that picture.
Lovely photo. Next to 'pride' and 'patriotism' in the dictionary I think they should certainly use that picture. Ashles
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2:33pm Mon 23 Apr 12

tinkle34 says...

HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL....I went on the march for England...I was attacked by a no good grease monkey left winger whatever you want to call them.
HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY ALL....I went on the march for England...I was attacked by a no good grease monkey left winger whatever you want to call them. tinkle34
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3:02pm Mon 23 Apr 12

The Old Crippel says...

fretlessbass wrote:
EDL Supporter says...
12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12

I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest.
'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron.
Actually I would think the moron is you if you cannot understand what this person is saying, he certainly does not speak as I do but I understand him completely and wither I agree with him or not is immaterial.

You also show by your attack on this person’s grammar that you have no argument against his point of view, if you had you would not lower yourself to such childish tactics.
[quote][p][bold]fretlessbass[/bold] wrote: EDL Supporter says... 12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12 I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest. 'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron.[/p][/quote]Actually I would think the moron is you if you cannot understand what this person is saying, he certainly does not speak as I do but I understand him completely and wither I agree with him or not is immaterial. You also show by your attack on this person’s grammar that you have no argument against his point of view, if you had you would not lower yourself to such childish tactics. The Old Crippel
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3:09pm Mon 23 Apr 12

The Real Phil says...

Well, the local taxpayer has to pick up the bill for allowing this nazi filth to parade through our town, that's democracy for you. One possible way for decent people to destroy the "celebrating St George" myth is for thousands of British born Asian and African (and Muslim) familes to join the march to show their support for good old St George, and perhaps help the wider British public reclaim him from the far right scum.
Well, the local taxpayer has to pick up the bill for allowing this nazi filth to parade through our town, that's democracy for you. One possible way for decent people to destroy the "celebrating St George" myth is for thousands of British born Asian and African (and Muslim) familes to join the march to show their support for good old St George, and perhaps help the wider British public reclaim him from the far right scum. The Real Phil
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4:50pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Andy R says...

One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused.

We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."
One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused. We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..." Andy R
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6:36pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Fight Back says...

The Old Crippel wrote:
fretlessbass wrote:
EDL Supporter says...
12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12

I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest.
'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron.
Actually I would think the moron is you if you cannot understand what this person is saying, he certainly does not speak as I do but I understand him completely and wither I agree with him or not is immaterial.

You also show by your attack on this person’s grammar that you have no argument against his point of view, if you had you would not lower yourself to such childish tactics.
Where did he say he didn't understand what was posted ? Given the argument from EDL regards immigrants it would seem reasonable that EDL members might be able to speak and write their mother tongue correctly given that it's meant to be English.
[quote][p][bold]The Old Crippel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fretlessbass[/bold] wrote: EDL Supporter says... 12:15pm Mon 23 Apr 12 I was there proudly marching for England and English pride. The trouble was all started by the ultra left wing thugs and the Police and we was just all defending ourselves. This certainly won't stop me from doing other marches in future where the crowds are more welcoming. I'll be on the SmashEDO march and I just hope that the crowds and Police don't give us such a hard time for exercising our right to a peacefull protest. 'We was just defending ourselves' This half-wit masquerading as a 'patriot' publicly demonstrates his total inability to master his country's language. It's 'were' not 'was' you utter moron.[/p][/quote]Actually I would think the moron is you if you cannot understand what this person is saying, he certainly does not speak as I do but I understand him completely and wither I agree with him or not is immaterial. You also show by your attack on this person’s grammar that you have no argument against his point of view, if you had you would not lower yourself to such childish tactics.[/p][/quote]Where did he say he didn't understand what was posted ? Given the argument from EDL regards immigrants it would seem reasonable that EDL members might be able to speak and write their mother tongue correctly given that it's meant to be English. Fight Back
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7:07pm Mon 23 Apr 12

Number Six says...

I'll assume that the misspelling of the word "cripple" is intentionally ironic but "wither"?

Or are you drooping or fading in some way?
I'll assume that the misspelling of the word "cripple" is intentionally ironic but "wither"? Or are you drooping or fading in some way? Number Six
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8:53pm Mon 23 Apr 12

pebble counter says...

I wonder how much sympathy the public will have for the policemen who got hurt, as elsewhere in this paper it is reported that another policeman has been congratulated by the bench for kicking a prone man in the face whilst his colleagues held him down.
I wonder how much sympathy the public will have for the policemen who got hurt, as elsewhere in this paper it is reported that another policeman has been congratulated by the bench for kicking a prone man in the face whilst his colleagues held him down. pebble counter
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9:20pm Mon 23 Apr 12

DougM says...

I notice on the youtube videos that one man brought a child with him on a march that anyone with a brain would know was going to be taking place in a highly volatile environment. Unless he was well and truly brain-dead bringing a child with him was a disgustingly calculated and cold-hearted decision, one which would bring into question his right to care for minors.
And what a horrible bunch of scroungers and thugs were in that march, God forbid my lovely country would ever be populated, let alone governed by oiks like that.
I notice on the youtube videos that one man brought a child with him on a march that anyone with a brain would know was going to be taking place in a highly volatile environment. Unless he was well and truly brain-dead bringing a child with him was a disgustingly calculated and cold-hearted decision, one which would bring into question his right to care for minors. And what a horrible bunch of scroungers and thugs were in that march, God forbid my lovely country would ever be populated, let alone governed by oiks like that. DougM
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10:59pm Mon 23 Apr 12

AmboGuy says...

pebble counter wrote:
I wonder how much sympathy the public will have for the policemen who got hurt, as elsewhere in this paper it is reported that another policeman has been congratulated by the bench for kicking a prone man in the face whilst his colleagues held him down.
Yaaawwwwwnnnnnn.
Get back to The Cowley Club waster.
[quote][p][bold]pebble counter[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sympathy the public will have for the policemen who got hurt, as elsewhere in this paper it is reported that another policeman has been congratulated by the bench for kicking a prone man in the face whilst his colleagues held him down.[/p][/quote]Yaaawwwwwnnnnnn. Get back to The Cowley Club waster. AmboGuy
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11:30pm Mon 23 Apr 12

b,jesussaidpaddy says...

Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame.
Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame. b,jesussaidpaddy
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11:30pm Mon 23 Apr 12

b,jesussaidpaddy says...

Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame.
Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame. b,jesussaidpaddy
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1:02am Tue 24 Apr 12

Baldseagull says...

Andy R wrote:
One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused.

We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."
Maybe they were confused as he is most commonly believed to have been from Syria.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused. We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."[/p][/quote]Maybe they were confused as he is most commonly believed to have been from Syria. Baldseagull
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1:15am Tue 24 Apr 12

Baldseagull says...

Andy R wrote:
One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused.

We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."
Given the disgraceful and fascist behaviour of those in the counter demonstration I think the Anti Fascist League should should counter protest the counter protesters and MfE next year.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused. We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."[/p][/quote]Given the disgraceful and fascist behaviour of those in the counter demonstration I think the Anti Fascist League should should counter protest the counter protesters and MfE next year. Baldseagull
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5:36am Tue 24 Apr 12

Keith Williamson says...

I attended the March For England, and I was disgusted by the violence directed at us, and the hatred shown for English Patriotism, by the moronic Unite Against Fascism/Socialist Worker's Party/Anarchist thugs. They threw loads of bottles at us and Brighton Police. I saw one of our women hit in the face by a bottle. Shame on the Far-Left! Be Proud to be English - No Surrender to the Reds and Islamic extremists like Abu Qatada!
I attended the March For England, and I was disgusted by the violence directed at us, and the hatred shown for English Patriotism, by the moronic Unite Against Fascism/Socialist Worker's Party/Anarchist thugs. They threw loads of bottles at us and Brighton Police. I saw one of our women hit in the face by a bottle. Shame on the Far-Left! Be Proud to be English - No Surrender to the Reds and Islamic extremists like Abu Qatada! Keith Williamson
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6:59am Tue 24 Apr 12

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused.

We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."
Oh dear Andy R you really are excelling yourself with your fantasy protesting, the guff you are writing here is even worse than the non sense you write on your website. "they looked confused" "they looked shellshocked" "thousands" protested against them, "the city" rose up as one against them.

Because you are so stuck in communist politics, SWP fourth International and all of that you just cannot see past your own stereo types. All tactics and no strategy. You belong to one group who has a policy of seeking to deny the democratic rights of others to protest through violence, you belong to another group that believes in revolution not evolution and is seeking to over throw democracy in this country and replace it with a form of communism. Your tactics have been classic SWP, hijack a protest, start fights with the police, blame the police for everything in the hope that you can radicalise a few more supporters.... look the police are protecting the facists.. that means they are facists.. that means we must overthrow the system.

Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated. You work in the public sector and yet you condone physical attacks on your fellow public sector workers.

You are such a hypocrite, at least your delusional claims have been laid bare this time and most people can see you for the fantasist that you are.

People have a right to protest, you dont get to decide whether they can or not. If the only answer you have to someones argument is to beat them up you automatically lose the argument. You have no doubt turned even more people off politics with you violence.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused. We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."[/p][/quote]Oh dear Andy R you really are excelling yourself with your fantasy protesting, the guff you are writing here is even worse than the non sense you write on your website. "they looked confused" "they looked shellshocked" "thousands" protested against them, "the city" rose up as one against them. Because you are so stuck in communist politics, SWP fourth International and all of that you just cannot see past your own stereo types. All tactics and no strategy. You belong to one group who has a policy of seeking to deny the democratic rights of others to protest through violence, you belong to another group that believes in revolution not evolution and is seeking to over throw democracy in this country and replace it with a form of communism. Your tactics have been classic SWP, hijack a protest, start fights with the police, blame the police for everything in the hope that you can radicalise a few more supporters.... look the police are protecting the facists.. that means they are facists.. that means we must overthrow the system. Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated. You work in the public sector and yet you condone physical attacks on your fellow public sector workers. You are such a hypocrite, at least your delusional claims have been laid bare this time and most people can see you for the fantasist that you are. People have a right to protest, you dont get to decide whether they can or not. If the only answer you have to someones argument is to beat them up you automatically lose the argument. You have no doubt turned even more people off politics with you violence. JHunty
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10:17am Tue 24 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

"Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated."

Can you point me to where I have blamed the police? It's just that I don't recall doing so in connection with Sunday's events.
"Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated." Can you point me to where I have blamed the police? It's just that I don't recall doing so in connection with Sunday's events. gaz scott
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10:19am Tue 24 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

JHunty wrote:
Andy R wrote:
One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused.

We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."
Oh dear Andy R you really are excelling yourself with your fantasy protesting, the guff you are writing here is even worse than the non sense you write on your website. "they looked confused" "they looked shellshocked" "thousands" protested against them, "the city" rose up as one against them.

Because you are so stuck in communist politics, SWP fourth International and all of that you just cannot see past your own stereo types. All tactics and no strategy. You belong to one group who has a policy of seeking to deny the democratic rights of others to protest through violence, you belong to another group that believes in revolution not evolution and is seeking to over throw democracy in this country and replace it with a form of communism. Your tactics have been classic SWP, hijack a protest, start fights with the police, blame the police for everything in the hope that you can radicalise a few more supporters.... look the police are protecting the facists.. that means they are facists.. that means we must overthrow the system.

Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated. You work in the public sector and yet you condone physical attacks on your fellow public sector workers.

You are such a hypocrite, at least your delusional claims have been laid bare this time and most people can see you for the fantasist that you are.

People have a right to protest, you dont get to decide whether they can or not. If the only answer you have to someones argument is to beat them up you automatically lose the argument. You have no doubt turned even more people off politics with you violence.
"Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated."

Can you point me to where I have blamed the police? It's just that I don't recall doing so in connection with Sunday's events.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: One moment of levity at the end when we sang "St George was from Lebanon" to them, and they looked confused. We quickly followed up with "country...middle east....next to Israel and Syria..."[/p][/quote]Oh dear Andy R you really are excelling yourself with your fantasy protesting, the guff you are writing here is even worse than the non sense you write on your website. "they looked confused" "they looked shellshocked" "thousands" protested against them, "the city" rose up as one against them. Because you are so stuck in communist politics, SWP fourth International and all of that you just cannot see past your own stereo types. All tactics and no strategy. You belong to one group who has a policy of seeking to deny the democratic rights of others to protest through violence, you belong to another group that believes in revolution not evolution and is seeking to over throw democracy in this country and replace it with a form of communism. Your tactics have been classic SWP, hijack a protest, start fights with the police, blame the police for everything in the hope that you can radicalise a few more supporters.... look the police are protecting the facists.. that means they are facists.. that means we must overthrow the system. Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated. You work in the public sector and yet you condone physical attacks on your fellow public sector workers. You are such a hypocrite, at least your delusional claims have been laid bare this time and most people can see you for the fantasist that you are. People have a right to protest, you dont get to decide whether they can or not. If the only answer you have to someones argument is to beat them up you automatically lose the argument. You have no doubt turned even more people off politics with you violence.[/p][/quote]"Its notable that you and Gaz Scott have started to blame the police for the violence that you and your mates instigated." Can you point me to where I have blamed the police? It's just that I don't recall doing so in connection with Sunday's events. gaz scott
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10:48am Tue 24 Apr 12

spider72 says...

b,jesussaidpaddy wrote:
Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame.
Well said, finally a comment from an individual who knows that we were not there to incite people.
[quote][p][bold]b,jesussaidpaddy[/bold] wrote: Visited Brighton this weekend as i do quite regularly as my girlfriend lives there. I have witnessed Gay Pride and saw the Irish out celebrating their day. They all seemed to have a great time. But when a few Englishmen came to town waving the cross of St George our patron saint. Where he was from or even if he really exsisted has been argued over for many years. But he is our patron saint. Surely these men, women and children should be allowed to march through an English city without receiving the vile abuse, and continual bottle throwing and other missles that i saw yesterday. I personley saw 1 young girl hit with a bottle, and the so called unwashed and scroungers were not carrying English flags. But were dressed in black and seemed to be too ashamed to show their unwashed faces. I did not see any EDL or BNP flags or heard any racsist chanting but did notice many placards mentioning diversity. Well citizens of Brighton i fear you may be becoming a little too diverse. Hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]Well said, finally a comment from an individual who knows that we were not there to incite people. spider72
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3:47pm Tue 24 Apr 12

mimseycal says...

PorkBoat wrote:
The UAF are state sponsored thugs. Their definition of "Fascist" is whoever they want it to be. Beware of these lunatics, in another era, they would have been guards in Stalin's gulags, or denounced your family to the NKVD for having "counter-revolutiona

ry thoughts".
State Sponsored?

You are not only off the planet but out of the Milky Way ...
[quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: The UAF are state sponsored thugs. Their definition of "Fascist" is whoever they want it to be. Beware of these lunatics, in another era, they would have been guards in Stalin's gulags, or denounced your family to the NKVD for having "counter-revolutiona ry thoughts".[/p][/quote]State Sponsored? You are not only off the planet but out of the Milky Way ... mimseycal
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11:43pm Tue 24 Apr 12

KarenT says...

I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-) KarenT
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8:42am Wed 25 Apr 12

Juleyanne says...

Unbelievable! the comments to this article which 'by the way' where about police horses being attacked and subsequently injured barely even mention the plight of these 'innocent' victims of a minority of protestors. If you scroll through the comments you will see for yourself it just proves how selfish and indifferent most people are, where are the comments about the 'horses'!!
Unbelievable! the comments to this article which 'by the way' where about police horses being attacked and subsequently injured barely even mention the plight of these 'innocent' victims of a minority of protestors. If you scroll through the comments you will see for yourself it just proves how selfish and indifferent most people are, where are the comments about the 'horses'!! Juleyanne
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10:56am Wed 25 Apr 12

Baldseagull says...

Juleyanne wrote:
Unbelievable! the comments to this article which 'by the way' where about police horses being attacked and subsequently injured barely even mention the plight of these 'innocent' victims of a minority of protestors. If you scroll through the comments you will see for yourself it just proves how selfish and indifferent most people are, where are the comments about the 'horses'!!
Look for posts from Andre Spooner.
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable! the comments to this article which 'by the way' where about police horses being attacked and subsequently injured barely even mention the plight of these 'innocent' victims of a minority of protestors. If you scroll through the comments you will see for yourself it just proves how selfish and indifferent most people are, where are the comments about the 'horses'!![/p][/quote]Look for posts from Andre Spooner. Baldseagull
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11:22am Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL. gaz scott
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11:39am Wed 25 Apr 12

KarenT says...

gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D KarenT
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11:49am Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking. gaz scott
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12:01pm Wed 25 Apr 12

KarenT says...

gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives. KarenT
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12:23pm Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on. gaz scott
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12:27pm Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
Sorry one sentence corrected below:
"I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.[/p][/quote]Sorry one sentence corrected below: "I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual." gaz scott
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1:05pm Wed 25 Apr 12

KarenT says...

gaz scott wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
Sorry one sentence corrected below:
"I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."
But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.[/p][/quote]Sorry one sentence corrected below: "I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."[/p][/quote]But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out. KarenT
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1:20pm Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
Sorry one sentence corrected below:
"I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."
But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.
Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree.

But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.[/p][/quote]Sorry one sentence corrected below: "I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."[/p][/quote]But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.[/p][/quote]Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree. But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid. gaz scott
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1:40pm Wed 25 Apr 12

KarenT says...

gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
Sorry one sentence corrected below:
"I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."
But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.
Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree.

But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid.
I have to ask myself WHY I'm even being drawn into a debate with you, cuz everything you're coming out with is so stupid! I mean, YOU think it 's worthwhile to chant "There's more of us than you!" Why? It's so bloody childish! Who cares if the UAF outnumbered the marchers? How is that relevant? There were more fascists than liberals in Nazi Germany - did that make them right? It's pointless, irrelevant AND makes you all sound like a bunch of 6-year-olds! And as far as chanting "Get off those horses you animals"... You think it's acceptable to call the police "animals"? The only "animals" on the day were the idiots that the police managed to keep corralled, minimizing damage to people and property, which they did effectively and professionally. I saw a few idiots getting thumped and tear-gassed, AFTER they were caught throwing missiles and lunging at the marchers and police. I'd have quite happily thumped them as well. As a member of the North Laines Traders Association I have nothing but gratitude for and praise for the police, and am sad to hear that some of their horses received injuries at the hands of these morons.
[quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.[/p][/quote]Sorry one sentence corrected below: "I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."[/p][/quote]But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.[/p][/quote]Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree. But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid.[/p][/quote]I have to ask myself WHY I'm even being drawn into a debate with you, cuz everything you're coming out with is so stupid! I mean, YOU think it 's worthwhile to chant "There's more of us than you!" Why? It's so bloody childish! Who cares if the UAF outnumbered the marchers? How is that relevant? There were more fascists than liberals in Nazi Germany - did that make them right? It's pointless, irrelevant AND makes you all sound like a bunch of 6-year-olds! And as far as chanting "Get off those horses you animals"... You think it's acceptable to call the police "animals"? The only "animals" on the day were the idiots that the police managed to keep corralled, minimizing damage to people and property, which they did effectively and professionally. I saw a few idiots getting thumped and tear-gassed, AFTER they were caught throwing missiles and lunging at the marchers and police. I'd have quite happily thumped them as well. As a member of the North Laines Traders Association I have nothing but gratitude for and praise for the police, and am sad to hear that some of their horses received injuries at the hands of these morons. KarenT
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4:16pm Wed 25 Apr 12

gaz scott says...

KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
gaz scott wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)
Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too.

"Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.
Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D
So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL.

Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"?

If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.
Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.
Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group.

I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.
Sorry one sentence corrected below:
"I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."
But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.
Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree.

But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid.
I have to ask myself WHY I'm even being drawn into a debate with you, cuz everything you're coming out with is so stupid! I mean, YOU think it 's worthwhile to chant "There's more of us than you!" Why? It's so bloody childish! Who cares if the UAF outnumbered the marchers? How is that relevant? There were more fascists than liberals in Nazi Germany - did that make them right? It's pointless, irrelevant AND makes you all sound like a bunch of 6-year-olds! And as far as chanting "Get off those horses you animals"... You think it's acceptable to call the police "animals"? The only "animals" on the day were the idiots that the police managed to keep corralled, minimizing damage to people and property, which they did effectively and professionally. I saw a few idiots getting thumped and tear-gassed, AFTER they were caught throwing missiles and lunging at the marchers and police. I'd have quite happily thumped them as well. As a member of the North Laines Traders Association I have nothing but gratitude for and praise for the police, and am sad to hear that some of their horses received injuries at the hands of these morons.
Well actually you're not really in a debate because you only seem concerned with what one side shouted or did and not the other. So it's all a bit one-sided really. I think it's probably run to its natural conclusion.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gaz scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I thought the UAF looked very cute in there little freedom-fighter outfits, with their black hoodies and adorable matching black face masks, trying to look all mean 'n scary, like my five-year-old when he dressed up like a lion on Halloween. Also loved the "There are more of us than you" song they chanted at Victoria Gardens - so clever, so intimidating, I bet their mums were proud. I watched the day unfold and all I could see was a bunch of silly children living out their Walter Mitty 'Che Guevara for a day' fantasies... Truly embarrassing and impossible to be taken seriously, further demonstrated by the endless petty posturing and one-upmanship going on in this thread. Hey, when you can't think of anything to say, best line of offence is to attack someone's spelling or grammar, eh? Jeez, if there IS anyone with a mental age beyond 9 within the UAF I'm sure even they find you lot embarrassing as well. Would love to see you on Question Time engaging in a real debate, chanting "There are more of us than you!" Oh grow up pleeeeze! It's really impossible to take any of you seriously! Best you spend a few years perhaps studying political science and the art of debate... until then leave the fight against fascism to the grown-ups. ;-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha. Unreal. I think the level of debate amongst our toothless and beer-bellied "patriot" friends would be extremely interesting to see too. "Allah was a paedo". "You're not English any more". Yes the art of debate is alive and well amongst the EDL.[/p][/quote]Actually the one time I DID see someone calling someone else a "paedo" it was that UAF nutter in a wheelchair (the one who refused to move his chair out of the ways of the march at one point)... I saw him calling two of the MfE guys paedos! You all need sending to bed without your dinners, wee little babies the lot of you! :D[/p][/quote]So one person on the counter demo against a full "chorus" of EDL. Is God a "Paedo" (as opposed to some in the church) and how is it possible to become "unEnglish"? If only one of them had said it I would have just assumed he was a bit stupid and wouldn't bring it up but as most of the EDL were chanting it I think the question needs asking.[/p][/quote]Oh for God's sake you're doing it AGAIN! "We might have called someone 'paedo' but THEY said it more times than us!". Listen to yourself! HOW old are you? No, don't answer - you'll just embarrass yourself even further. Tell you what... next time you and the EDL fellows want to have yourselves a little ruck I suggest you all go paint balling or something, and leave the "people of Brighton" to get on with their lives.[/p][/quote]Actually that's not the point I was making. I'm sure I might have disagreed with many individual opinions from either side but when one side (either side) is chanting something then that could be said to be fairly representative of their opinions as a group. I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual. That is my point and if you need to keep referring to my age (as you see it) to back up your arguments and that is all you have then carry on.[/p][/quote]Sorry one sentence corrected below: "I would never go on a march where people are chanting as one things I don't agree with but I would go on a march even if I might not entirely agree with the exact opinions of every individual."[/p][/quote]But I witnessed the UAF "chanting as one" on many occasions, things along the lines of "Get off that horse you animal" (directed towards the mounted police), "There are more of us than you!" (embarrassing school ground taunts), and "Go home paedos" (just plain stupid and offensive). So one can only assume you are happy with such silly diatribe. It's a pity the Argus doesn't occasionally indulge in a bit of tabloid-inspired comic sensationalism in their headlines. I think the perfect one for coverage of this weekend's event would've been "Dumb and Dumber"! And, unfortunately for the UAF (as I'm sure there are 'some' within this group who's agendas are considered, intelligent and worthwhile), they appeared to me to be the "dumber" of the two. Over and out.[/p][/quote]Well I didn't hear "Go home paedos" and would not agree with it if I had as I agree with you that it's offensive but I didn't. I heard "Go Home" often though. As for pointing out the huge inequality of numbers and "Get those animals off those horses" I wouldn't disagree. But on one seems able to explain the idea that God is a "paedo" or that Englishness is something that can be mislaid.[/p][/quote]I have to ask myself WHY I'm even being drawn into a debate with you, cuz everything you're coming out with is so stupid! I mean, YOU think it 's worthwhile to chant "There's more of us than you!" Why? It's so bloody childish! Who cares if the UAF outnumbered the marchers? How is that relevant? There were more fascists than liberals in Nazi Germany - did that make them right? It's pointless, irrelevant AND makes you all sound like a bunch of 6-year-olds! And as far as chanting "Get off those horses you animals"... You think it's acceptable to call the police "animals"? The only "animals" on the day were the idiots that the police managed to keep corralled, minimizing damage to people and property, which they did effectively and professionally. I saw a few idiots getting thumped and tear-gassed, AFTER they were caught throwing missiles and lunging at the marchers and police. I'd have quite happily thumped them as well. As a member of the North Laines Traders Association I have nothing but gratitude for and praise for the police, and am sad to hear that some of their horses received injuries at the hands of these morons.[/p][/quote]Well actually you're not really in a debate because you only seem concerned with what one side shouted or did and not the other. So it's all a bit one-sided really. I think it's probably run to its natural conclusion. gaz scott
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10:34pm Wed 25 Apr 12

Juleyanne says...

The hate fuelled rantings of people on both sides once again are so wrapped up in their own views some of them depressingly and clearly somehow think it's ok to abuse and hurt animals ie police horses who are forced to be there, forced to take the missiles and the injuries for what?
Surely if you are standing and putting yourself forward in defence of others in this world it does not and cannot ever justify violence against an innocent animal because that would make a person guilty of being 'species selective! bang your drums for justice but please leave the horses alone, they don't choose to be police horses they just are!
The hate fuelled rantings of people on both sides once again are so wrapped up in their own views some of them depressingly and clearly somehow think it's ok to abuse and hurt animals ie police horses who are forced to be there, forced to take the missiles and the injuries for what? Surely if you are standing and putting yourself forward in defence of others in this world it does not and cannot ever justify violence against an innocent animal because that would make a person guilty of being 'species selective! bang your drums for justice but please leave the horses alone, they don't choose to be police horses they just are! Juleyanne
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