'Cuts will lead to more accidents' (From The Argus)

These are Argus cuts following their campaign to stop a modest rise in council tax.

Government cuts force a reduction of spending in areas that are within a council's control.

Funny though how the proposed introduction of more 20mph zones in the city can generate so much hot air, whilst being a significant safety measure. Was the 20mph included in this budget? If not, then it looks like the road safety budget is increasing.

However the Green Party have been given £4.2 million to spend on a road that has been changed and modified so many times it is untrue. Although the Vogue Gyratory does need to be amended, the rest of the Lewes Road doesn't.

Therefore wouldn't it be better to spend less money on the Vogue Gyratory and then use the rest of the money for road safety, and also to do something to North Street which needs to be relayed and made safer.

What is going to be the point on spending £4.2 million on 'improving' the Lewes Road, when people are going to be killed elsewhere?

If we are concerned about road safety what about looking at whether those in charge of mobility scooters who use our roads, and cyclists ,who ride poorly should be prosecuted? I thought all bikes had to have lights anyway?

Reduce cars on the road and we won't have this problem.

A subsided secure park and ride on the outside of the city would allow for tourism, whist alienating the fat and lazy back to the McDonalds drive-throughs.

rinoa2530 wrote:
However the Green Party have been given £4.2 million to spend on a road that has been changed and modified so many times it is untrue. Although the Vogue Gyratory does need to be amended, the rest of the Lewes Road doesn't.

Therefore wouldn't it be better to spend less money on the Vogue Gyratory and then use the rest of the money for road safety, and also to do something to North Street which needs to be relayed and made safer.

What is going to be the point on spending £4.2 million on 'improving' the Lewes Road, when people are going to be killed elsewhere?

Can't agree with Lewes Rd comments, this road needs some serious work and has great potential for modal shift with Universities and the Albion located on it as well as a safer corridor into Brighton for those cycling in as a cheap and healthy alternative to the bus and cars. This type of development works well in the Netherlands and Germany, why not B&H? Also, you must see this in the context of improved rail services between Hastings and Brighton that will provide additional capacity.

lack of spending on safety won't increase the number of accidents at all. what will cut the number of accidents is driver training, and that is not the councils responsibility. too many people are in a hurry nowadays, and seem to think they are the only ones on the road. also, other road users, including pedestrians, have to take responsibility for their own safety. parents can start by teaching their own children how to cross the road properly. too many people walk out without looking, either with earphones stuck in their ears, or on the phone. think first!!!

Cuts here waisting money on this pointless 20mph fiasco they wont stop til Brighton has banned all motorvehicles the greens need stopping now.

Everything is getting cut.
And don't forget that "red tape", such as 'elf and safety".
Welcome to Tory/Lib Dem Britain - watch deaths and injury on building sites, Shoreham Docks, roads, and so much more, increase. All those years of putting together "rules" to protect ordinary people, whether workers or the public, dismantled in a matter of months. Depressing?
No, it makes me angry - all of you, get out there and do something about it. They can be stopped!

Regerme has launched a free to use road safety scheme. The scheme is being promoted across the world wide web.
Useful for all to comment against the registration of the careless or just **** right dangerous drivers
If you could tell a driver the consequence of their actions could prove catastrophic and as a result make our roads safer would you???
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This innovative altruistic website has road safety for schools, new driver monitor, how's my driving and road rage reporting components.
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It's FREE, it works and could save lives. What other reason do you need?
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more rubbish scaremongering, money is constantly being spent on road schemes and then they are changed and changed again such as lewes rd and north st. bring in permit parking in the lewes road and student areas and they will stop having 3 or 4 old bangers per household polluting this city and as we know young drivers are the most dangerous. oh that will not be done as the students are the green voters, also we would not need so many cuts if students were to pay either a small percentage of council tax or a fixed amount, as there are between 3 and 10 students per household this would not be difficult for them, the exemption was not meant for the huge increase in students going to university.

HJarrs wrote:

rinoa2530 wrote:
However the Green Party have been given £4.2 million to spend on a road that has been changed and modified so many times it is untrue. Although the Vogue Gyratory does need to be amended, the rest of the Lewes Road doesn't.

Therefore wouldn't it be better to spend less money on the Vogue Gyratory and then use the rest of the money for road safety, and also to do something to North Street which needs to be relayed and made safer.

What is going to be the point on spending £4.2 million on 'improving' the Lewes Road, when people are going to be killed elsewhere?

Can't agree with Lewes Rd comments, this road needs some serious work and has great potential for modal shift with Universities and the Albion located on it as well as a safer corridor into Brighton for those cycling in as a cheap and healthy alternative to the bus and cars. This type of development works well in the Netherlands and Germany, why not B&H? Also, you must see this in the context of improved rail services between Hastings and Brighton that will provide additional capacity.

Ever been to the Netherlands? It's flat. Very very flat. Compare and contrast with Brighton. SURE the Lewes Road is reasonably level, but the roads leading onto it aren't. It's sheer lunacy to think you'll get the modal shift in Brighton which has been achieved in flatter locations.

regerme.com wrote:
Regerme has launched a free to use road safety scheme. The scheme is being promoted across the world wide web.
Useful for all to comment against the registration of the careless or just **** right dangerous drivers
If you could tell a driver the consequence of their actions could prove catastrophic and as a result make our roads safer would you???
Regerme have provided a FREE to use platform to communicate through the medium of vehicle registration numbers by posting pictures and comments.
This innovative altruistic website has road safety for schools, new driver monitor, how's my driving and road rage reporting components.
PLEASE GET INVOLVED & POST YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS ON THE SITE
It's FREE, it works and could save lives. What other reason do you need?
If you drive the scheme is not something you can opt out of. Search regerme, log on and check your registration. You may have a comment.
Thank you

Are you planning on a website so we can complain about pedestrians and cyclists?

Can't you spam your site somewhere else?

regerme.com wrote:
Regerme has launched a free to use road safety scheme. The scheme is being promoted across the world wide web.
Useful for all to comment against the registration of the careless or just **** right dangerous drivers
If you could tell a driver the consequence of their actions could prove catastrophic and as a result make our roads safer would you???
Regerme have provided a FREE to use platform to communicate through the medium of vehicle registration numbers by posting pictures and comments.
This innovative altruistic website has road safety for schools, new driver monitor, how's my driving and road rage reporting components.
PLEASE GET INVOLVED & POST YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS ON THE SITE
It's FREE, it works and could save lives. What other reason do you need?
If you drive the scheme is not something you can opt out of. Search regerme, log on and check your registration. You may have a comment.
Thank you

Just looked at the site. Can you change the aricle regarding the 1.7m drivers who receive fines from private car parking co.'s? Parking fines can only be issued by the police or by authorities with the legal powers to do so.

Private car parking co.'s issue unsolicited invoices, that you don't need to pay.

Otherwise, looks like a site for busybodies and those with an axe to grind. As for not being able to opt out, I suggest you consult your solicitor before making those rash types of statement. People you complain about may have perfectly legitimate reasons for acting the way they are. Speeding is entirely subjective, with no proof you may find yourself on the end of a writ.

PaulOckenden wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

rinoa2530 wrote:
However the Green Party have been given £4.2 million to spend on a road that has been changed and modified so many times it is untrue. Although the Vogue Gyratory does need to be amended, the rest of the Lewes Road doesn't.

Therefore wouldn't it be better to spend less money on the Vogue Gyratory and then use the rest of the money for road safety, and also to do something to North Street which needs to be relayed and made safer.

What is going to be the point on spending £4.2 million on 'improving' the Lewes Road, when people are going to be killed elsewhere?

Can't agree with Lewes Rd comments, this road needs some serious work and has great potential for modal shift with Universities and the Albion located on it as well as a safer corridor into Brighton for those cycling in as a cheap and healthy alternative to the bus and cars. This type of development works well in the Netherlands and Germany, why not B&H? Also, you must see this in the context of improved rail services between Hastings and Brighton that will provide additional capacity.

Ever been to the Netherlands? It's flat. Very very flat. Compare and contrast with Brighton. SURE the Lewes Road is reasonably level, but the roads leading onto it aren't. It's sheer lunacy to think you'll get the modal shift in Brighton which has been achieved in flatter locations.

Hi,

How do you explain San Francisco then?

Hard times wrote:

PaulOckenden wrote:

HJarrs wrote:

rinoa2530 wrote:
However the Green Party have been given £4.2 million to spend on a road that has been changed and modified so many times it is untrue. Although the Vogue Gyratory does need to be amended, the rest of the Lewes Road doesn't.

Therefore wouldn't it be better to spend less money on the Vogue Gyratory and then use the rest of the money for road safety, and also to do something to North Street which needs to be relayed and made safer.

What is going to be the point on spending £4.2 million on 'improving' the Lewes Road, when people are going to be killed elsewhere?

Can't agree with Lewes Rd comments, this road needs some serious work and has great potential for modal shift with Universities and the Albion located on it as well as a safer corridor into Brighton for those cycling in as a cheap and healthy alternative to the bus and cars. This type of development works well in the Netherlands and Germany, why not B&H? Also, you must see this in the context of improved rail services between Hastings and Brighton that will provide additional capacity.

Ever been to the Netherlands? It's flat. Very very flat. Compare and contrast with Brighton. SURE the Lewes Road is reasonably level, but the roads leading onto it aren't. It's sheer lunacy to think you'll get the modal shift in Brighton which has been achieved in flatter locations.

Hi,

How do you explain San Francisco then?

Or Basel?

I agree that it is impractical for everyone to suddenly dump the car and jump on a bike, but it is a doddle to cycle between Lewes and Brighton. If a few hundred per day can be encouraged to change to cycling or an improved bus and train service that are also being planned then I can't see this being anything but a positive outcome for those that actually need to drive. Win, win.

john newman wrote:
If we are concerned about road safety what about looking at whether those in charge of mobility scooters who use our roads, and cyclists ,who ride poorly should be prosecuted? I thought all bikes had to have lights anyway?

You clearly haven't been reading the Argus or reading/ listening to other news sources recently.

The number of cyclists hit and seriously injured or killed by motorists, lorry drivers in particular, is terrible.

I wear bright clothing whilst on my bike, I signal always, and as a car driver as well I'm well aware of how to conduct myself in traffic. Come along with me and I'll show you numerous instances of car drivers simply not giving a **** - it'll take about half a mile to see the first 5 or so potentially serious incidents ranging from drivers turning right/ left across me, over taking me then taking an immediate hard left turn, not leaving sufficient room....they need training or their cars taken away before they kill someone professing 'oh, I didn't see him'.

graham_Seagull wrote:

john newman wrote:
If we are concerned about road safety what about looking at whether those in charge of mobility scooters who use our roads, and cyclists ,who ride poorly should be prosecuted? I thought all bikes had to have lights anyway?

You clearly haven't been reading the Argus or reading/ listening to other news sources recently.

The number of cyclists hit and seriously injured or killed by motorists, lorry drivers in particular, is terrible.

I wear bright clothing whilst on my bike, I signal always, and as a car driver as well I'm well aware of how to conduct myself in traffic. Come along with me and I'll show you numerous instances of car drivers simply not giving a **** - it'll take about half a mile to see the first 5 or so potentially serious incidents ranging from drivers turning right/ left across me, over taking me then taking an immediate hard left turn, not leaving sufficient room....they need training or their cars taken away before they kill someone professing 'oh, I didn't see him'.

Interesting article in the Standard recently about cycling accidents in London and cycling in general.

The amount of cycling is on the increase. In terms of deaths per mile, this number is actually reducing, so despite the total number of accidents, cycling is getting safer - according to the data.

Lorry driver deaths - it's impossible to blame them for the deaths unless you know the exact circumstances.

Poor driving - yup, it happens. As a driver I always assume that my fellow road users of any type are going to make a massive gaffe at any time, cyclists need to do the same.

There's way too much hysteria about cycling accidents. Any time you go on the road, you take a risk.

Busterblister wrote:

graham_Seagull wrote:

john newman wrote: If we are concerned about road safety what about looking at whether those in charge of mobility scooters who use our roads, and cyclists ,who ride poorly should be prosecuted? I thought all bikes had to have lights anyway?

You clearly haven't been reading the Argus or reading/ listening to other news sources recently. The number of cyclists hit and seriously injured or killed by motorists, lorry drivers in particular, is terrible. I wear bright clothing whilst on my bike, I signal always, and as a car driver as well I'm well aware of how to conduct myself in traffic. Come along with me and I'll show you numerous instances of car drivers simply not giving a **** - it'll take about half a mile to see the first 5 or so potentially serious incidents ranging from drivers turning right/ left across me, over taking me then taking an immediate hard left turn, not leaving sufficient room....they need training or their cars taken away before they kill someone professing 'oh, I didn't see him'.

Interesting article in the Standard recently about cycling accidents in London and cycling in general. The amount of cycling is on the increase. In terms of deaths per mile, this number is actually reducing, so despite the total number of accidents, cycling is getting safer - according to the data. Lorry driver deaths - it's impossible to blame them for the deaths unless you know the exact circumstances. Poor driving - yup, it happens. As a driver I always assume that my fellow road users of any type are going to make a massive gaffe at any time, cyclists need to do the same. There's way too much hysteria about cycling accidents. Any time you go on the road, you take a risk.

Oh that's ok then, Ill stop worrying then. Phew. I'll put up with the irresponsible behaviour of far too many drivers then as I now realise that statistically cycling is getting safer on our roads.....I shall get back to being an annonymous statistic to help you feel better.