£3 million plan for bath house site

A developer says he is preparing to unveil his latest multi-million plans for a Victorian bath house.

Sirus Taghan says he hopes to submit plans for a seven-storey residential block to Brighton and Hove City Council at the site of Medina House in King’s Esplanade, Hove.

Developers want to begin work on the £3million plans, drawn up in conjunction with property firm Savills, by the end of the year if permission is granted.

The news comes in the same week as the council agreed to extend an enforcement notice to clean up the former Turkish bath house site until the end of the month.

In September last year, the property’s owners Anis and Sirus Taghan, who bought the property in 1997, were given six months to repair windows, rendering and doors at the property and this deadline has been extended to June 1.

Compulsory purchase Conservation campaigners are calling on the council to take control of the property through a compulsory purchase order in order to preserve the building.

Concerns have also been raised about a number of van dwellers and caravans camped out at the site for months while neighbours say only minor repairs have been carried out at the site since the enforcement notice was issued.

Three applications to build flats at the site, which first opened as baths in 1894, have previously been rejected.

Valerie Paynter of Save Hove said: “This is the last bath house standing in Brighton and Hove to my knowledge. The council seeks to avoid prosecuting Taghan and is bending over backward to accommodate the man vandalising this part of Hove seafront.

“The time has come for Save Hove to demand that Medina House be saved for the city with a compulsory purchase order.”

Mr Taghan said: “It will be slightly smaller than the previous applications.

“We have been talking to the council about what they want from the plans.”

He added that original tiles from the bathhouse on a wall in the courtyard would be maintained and unaffected by the development.

A council spokesman said they would not hesitate to take legal action if their current approach was not successful. He said: “The owner had requested an extension as he was awaiting the outcome of a planning appeal which has now been dismissed.

“Our planning enforcement policy favours compliance over punishment and we have had a number of successes with this approach including the former nursing home Lawnscroft in Kingsway, Hove.”

Comments(13)

leobrighton says...
3:22pm Tue 8 May 12

Get it built and stop messing this poor guy around council it must have cost him a fortune to keep putting in applications the first one was fine

rolivan says...
4:08pm Tue 8 May 12

15 years is a long time to take to submit 3 sets of plans I thought there was a time limit.Why has the Council taken so long to act?

Crystal Ball says...
4:29pm Tue 8 May 12

I wonder if B&H Council will be loaning the £3m?

billy goat-gruff says...
4:45pm Tue 8 May 12

It's a shame half of the old turkish baths were demolished some time ago. I had a look inside once when squatters held an art exhibition and what's left should be preserved - too many developers are demolition happy, and what do we get in exchange? Bland boring office blocks/ flats!

chrisso says...
5:08pm Tue 8 May 12

Yet another semi-derelict site in Brighton and Hove that's been a mess for years, following on from the bingo hall,preston barracks,black rock,queens square ice rink,west pier,sergeant yorke's,astoria etc etc etc . . .

deanaprior says...
5:51pm Tue 8 May 12

Seven story block of flats? I don't know why they have left the site derelict for so long maybe owning a seafront site is better than having money in the bank. If they get planning permission for seven storys its like winning the lottery.

Valerie Paynter says...
10:33pm Tue 8 May 12

leobrighton wrote:
Get it built and stop messing this poor guy around council it must have cost him a fortune to keep putting in applications the first one was fine
Uh...what's your point exactly? He had planning consent for his first application and chose not to implement it. All subsequent applications have been close to ludicrous and had no chance of gaining consent.

Taghan appears to have spent 14 going on 15 years avoiding doing anything with the property except vandalise it.

Perhaps you missed the front page article showing a proposed spinning plates design he said he was submitting as a planning application. Didn't happen after he was rumbled by local architects noticing it was a design already built in Scandinavia. And the people who built it were not amused by his use of their design without asking!

Save your sympathy for the devil.

Valerie Paynter says...
10:36pm Tue 8 May 12

billy goat-gruff wrote:
It's a shame half of the old turkish baths were demolished some time ago. I had a look inside once when squatters held an art exhibition and what's left should be preserved - too many developers are demolition happy, and what do we get in exchange? Bland boring office blocks/ flats!
You are right. I too went inside around 2000 when squatters were there holding art exhibitions and i went in following lovely piano music coming from upstairs....lovely wood panelling downstairs and up the lovely wooden stairs. Mahogany it looked like....

Joshiman says...
9:30am Wed 9 May 12

Greedy owner who bought it for a song from the Council around 1995.The building has been wrecked and the original surrounding walls demolished and replaced with broken wood panelling so the caravans and vans can get in and park for free.The owner knows this and is not interested.He wants to demolish and build a high rise block.His plans have been rejected by previous Council planning depts.Now that the Greens have power he is obviously hoping that that they will support him.

ruthrose says...
10:32am Wed 9 May 12

Fifteen years of ownership by Taghan has meant neighbours and local residents having their surroundings spoiled, environmental health risks with the site being used by van dwellers with no sanitation, and a fire risk as they run electric cables inside the building despite a Fire Prohibition Notice on the property, as well as a much loved local heritage building being systematically and wilfully neglected while he puts in spurious planning application after spurious planning application to try and squeeze the maximum profit from the site with no thought for the wider environment. He could have developed over 10 years ago when his application was approved so it is certainly not a question of the Council "messing this poor guy around"! He has been clearly directed by both the Council and the Planning Inspector (don't forget he lost his appeal too so it is not just the Council who don't like his plans) as to what is unacceptable, so please feel no sympathy if he choses to disregard this and continues to try to eke out the profit and leave neighbours to pick up the pieces.

fascinator says...
11:18am Wed 9 May 12

Can the building not be restored, including the bath area, but used for local events, as an adjunct of Hove Museum?
It's an important part of our local heritage.

Valerie Paynter says...
3:38pm Wed 9 May 12

fascinator wrote:
Can the building not be restored, including the bath area, but used for local events, as an adjunct of Hove Museum? It's an important part of our local heritage.
YES! It can be restored. The original tiling is probably at the bottom of the concrete filling up of the pool area but, what a lovely idea to attach it to Hove Museum!

There is more 'passing trade' walking along the Esplanade than in New Church Road and exhibitions held here would be much better attended.

Email Geoffrey.Bowden@brig
hton-hove.gov.uk and make your suggestions to him but first compulsory purchase has to happen.

hogarth123 says...
9:56pm Thu 10 May 12

The building used to be one of a pair of turkish bathouses and there are some very rare tiles and mosaics inside. The building standing used to be the ladies bath house with the (demolished ) gents just next door.
We dont need any more block of flats along the promenade.
Buildings like this can and should be saved.
Also when is a local bye law going to be passed to stop travellers living in the car park just up the road. A bye law stopping people sleeping in car parks in vehicles has been in operation in Cornwall for over 20 years.

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