Brighton police release images of men wanted in connection with March for England violence (From The Argus)
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Brighton police release images of men wanted in connection with March for England violence
1:51pm Monday 21st May 2012 in News
Pictures have been released of five people wanted by police investigating violence which flared during the March for England through Brighton last month.
A 10-year-old girl and two police officers were injured after bottles were hurled at the fifth annual nationalist gathering.
The event attracted counter-demonstrations by anti-fascist protesters, leading to three arrests following ugly exchanges on April 22.
Sussex Police said there was a "considerable level of violence" directed at the 140 marchers and attempts were made to block them at several points along the route.
Today, officers issued pictures of five people they want to question over the trouble. All are suspected of throwing bottles, cans or containers at police officers and crowds.
Mounted police were drafted in to maintain calm but Superintendent Steve Whitton said it was clear some people were intent on not protesting peacefully.
He said: "We were able to restrain these groups and individuals with a firm, robust but fair policing response but this did require a major police presence at several points."
The three people arrested were all men who were not connected to the march. All were detained on suspicion of public order offences at separate points along the route.
One was later released without charge and the other two, both aged 20 - one from Brighton and one from Worthing, West Sussex - are on police bail pending further inquiries.
Police said they were also investigating a report of common assault on a 43-year-old man who was walking behind the march when he was allegedly grabbed.
Comments(95)
jimbobmaginty
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2:59pm Mon 21 May 12
mimseycal
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3:02pm Mon 21 May 12
williethemailboy
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4:12pm Mon 21 May 12
AmboGuy
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5:21pm Mon 21 May 12
Andy R
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5:21pm Mon 21 May 12
Andy R
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5:22pm Mon 21 May 12
cvs
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5:46pm Mon 21 May 12
Andy R wrote:Ha Ha That's funny.
Has the Sussex Police HR dept run a check against its database?
Gives me an idea though. Why don't we photograph all benefits claimants and then they can be checked to see if they are taking part in protests or actively looking for work.
Andy R
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5:47pm Mon 21 May 12
cvs
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5:47pm Mon 21 May 12
Andy R wrote:Ha Ha That's funny.
Has the Sussex Police HR dept run a check against its database?
Gives me an idea though. Why don't we photograph all benefits claimants and then they can be checked to see if they are taking part in protests or actively looking for work.
wharrgarbl
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6:16pm Mon 21 May 12
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
NickBrt
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6:21pm Mon 21 May 12
papa_melons
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6:33pm Mon 21 May 12
cvs wrote:why would someone who is claiming benefits not be allowed to go on a protest ?
Andy R wrote:Ha Ha That's funny.
Has the Sussex Police HR dept run a check against its database?
Gives me an idea though. Why don't we photograph all benefits claimants and then they can be checked to see if they are taking part in protests or actively looking for work.
As usual, you press enter before you have had time to think
JHunty
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6:34pm Mon 21 May 12
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
AmboGuy
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6:47pm Mon 21 May 12
JHunty wrote:Never knew that. It seems whenever there's any trouble or violencei that SmashEDO are never too far behind it really.
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
JHunty
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6:48pm Mon 21 May 12
Andy R wrote:So spell it out Andy what are you accusing the police of? Come on Andy you are a public sector worker working for a union that represents public sector workers and you are clearly implying that the police, another group of public sector workers, are in some way acting illegally in showing these images. Take them to court or shut up. Your mates in SmashEdo and the UAF attempted to stop people from exercising their democratic right to protest with violence. You want to replace our democratic system with a totalitarian system. So come on Andy, do people have a right to free speech or not? Do people have a right to protest or not? Or in your world are people only allowed to agree with you? You still cant see why you are more facistic than the people you were demonstrating against can you?
It's been a month. Why now? Where have these photos come from? What are these people supposed to have done?
turtling.
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7:02pm Mon 21 May 12
2. Eric Cantona
3. Dirk Kuyt
4. Wayne Rooney
5. Greg James
gaz scott
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7:11pm Mon 21 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Well actually he's just saying it but that doesn't make it true. As usual with anything JHunty says you should take it with a pinch (or sack) of salt as he rarely backs anything he says up with actual facts and has very often been proved wrong. He always goes very quiet once asked to back up his statements.
JHunty wrote:Never knew that. It seems whenever there's any trouble or violencei that SmashEDO are never too far behind it really.
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
AmboGuy
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8:32pm Mon 21 May 12
JHunty wrote:Is he a public sector worker? Come on Andy R which service do you work for? Well it's clearly not the Police so are you Fire or Ambulance??
Andy R wrote:So spell it out Andy what are you accusing the police of? Come on Andy you are a public sector worker working for a union that represents public sector workers and you are clearly implying that the police, another group of public sector workers, are in some way acting illegally in showing these images. Take them to court or shut up. Your mates in SmashEdo and the UAF attempted to stop people from exercising their democratic right to protest with violence. You want to replace our democratic system with a totalitarian system. So come on Andy, do people have a right to free speech or not? Do people have a right to protest or not? Or in your world are people only allowed to agree with you? You still cant see why you are more facistic than the people you were demonstrating against can you?
It's been a month. Why now? Where have these photos come from? What are these people supposed to have done?
Busterblister
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8:35pm Mon 21 May 12
Shaddow
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9:55pm Mon 21 May 12
Sussex Man
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6:49am Tue 22 May 12
Sussex Man
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6:50am Tue 22 May 12
Sussex Man
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6:51am Tue 22 May 12
blueinc
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7:39am Tue 22 May 12
blueinc
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7:41am Tue 22 May 12
mimseycal
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9:14am Tue 22 May 12
Sussex Man wrote:Repeating a fabrication does not make it true.
The brave "Anti"-Fascist warriors of UAF/SWP/Anarchist groups attacked a ten year old girl who was on the March For England, with bottles. She should have been able to attend a peaceful celebration of St George's Day with her parents, without Far-Left wing thugs causing violence and mayhem on the streets of Brighton.
willy harris
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9:19am Tue 22 May 12
hursthill
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9:28am Tue 22 May 12
It is part of the seaside tradition. -
Punch and Judy.
gaz scott and jhunty.
Sooty & Sweep.
LOL
gaz scott
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10:00am Tue 22 May 12
willy harris wrote:GUILTY? That sounds very sympathetic.
every time i read these comments im amazed too see the same old names saying the same old rubbish,just stop trying to be clever and think for one moment,,people have been hurt, the police want to find the persons responsible,they have certain photographs of suspects.so why dont they come forward maybe to clear their names??i can only think of one reason ,GUILTY.so folks dont keep trying to out do each other with fancy arguments be a little bit more sympathetic,
I don't know what they've allegedly done but I also don't know if they've seen that they've been plastered over the local press or if they have actually eliminated themselves from police enquiries or will do so once they realise the police are looking for them.
So let's reserve judgement on their guilt or innocence shall we!
Andy R
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10:00am Tue 22 May 12
JHunty wrote:EDL sock puppet alert!!
Andy R wrote: It's been a month. Why now? Where have these photos come from? What are these people supposed to have done?So spell it out Andy what are you accusing the police of? Come on Andy you are a public sector worker working for a union that represents public sector workers and you are clearly implying that the police, another group of public sector workers, are in some way acting illegally in showing these images. Take them to court or shut up. Your mates in SmashEdo and the UAF attempted to stop people from exercising their democratic right to protest with violence. You want to replace our democratic system with a totalitarian system. So come on Andy, do people have a right to free speech or not? Do people have a right to protest or not? Or in your world are people only allowed to agree with you? You still cant see why you are more facistic than the people you were demonstrating against can you?
Andy R
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10:06am Tue 22 May 12
Sussex Man wrote:No they didn't. Who do you think you're actually convincing with this nonsense?
The brave "Anti"-Fascist warriors of UAF/SWP/Anarchist groups attacked a ten year old girl who was on the March For England, with bottles. She should have been able to attend a peaceful celebration of St George's Day with her parents, without Far-Left wing thugs causing violence and mayhem on the streets of Brighton.
scooter boy
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4:15pm Tue 22 May 12
Andy R wrote:yes they did !
Sussex Man wrote:No they didn't. Who do you think you're actually convincing with this nonsense?
The brave "Anti"-Fascist warriors of UAF/SWP/Anarchist groups attacked a ten year old girl who was on the March For England, with bottles. She should have been able to attend a peaceful celebration of St George's Day with her parents, without Far-Left wing thugs causing violence and mayhem on the streets of Brighton.
It's all over youtube for all to see.
scooter boy
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4:32pm Tue 22 May 12
gaz scott wrote:There were plenty of threats issued by left wing groups prior to this march,im happy to search them out for you and post them here ? I should also state that the evidence of violence by these left wing groups on the day is freely available all over the net.
AmboGuy wrote:Well actually he's just saying it but that doesn't make it true. As usual with anything JHunty says you should take it with a pinch (or sack) of salt as he rarely backs anything he says up with actual facts and has very often been proved wrong. He always goes very quiet once asked to back up his statements.
JHunty wrote:Never knew that. It seems whenever there's any trouble or violencei that SmashEDO are never too far behind it really.
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
scooter boy
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4:57pm Tue 22 May 12
wharrgarbl wrote:So you admit that people like you have indeed attacked MFE in the past,you also admit that you refuse to allow people who you don't like to walk down a street with their children,or you will attack them,as you have done in the past ! You also believe that it's right to intimidate men,women and CHILDREN by using violence,but you blame them as you did not intimidate them enough in the past,so they 'asked for it'.What a truly digusting little person you are !
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
gaz scott
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5:11pm Tue 22 May 12
scooter boy wrote:JHunty said that SmashEDO put up posters all over town. He has absolutely no proof of this at all. As usual he is posting stuff as fact with no supporting evidence. That's what he does. Never mind a pinch of salt you need enough salt to grit the M25 when dealing with JHunty.
gaz scott wrote:There were plenty of threats issued by left wing groups prior to this march,im happy to search them out for you and post them here ? I should also state that the evidence of violence by these left wing groups on the day is freely available all over the net.
AmboGuy wrote:Well actually he's just saying it but that doesn't make it true. As usual with anything JHunty says you should take it with a pinch (or sack) of salt as he rarely backs anything he says up with actual facts and has very often been proved wrong. He always goes very quiet once asked to back up his statements.
JHunty wrote:Never knew that. It seems whenever there's any trouble or violencei that SmashEDO are never too far behind it really.
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
scooter boy
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6:44pm Tue 22 May 12
gaz scott wrote:You have already done your 'salt' sketch,it was pathetic in your previous post and remains the same in your latest one.Threats were made by left wing groups before this march,that remains a FACT.I would rather that people here get the info for themselves but as promised,i will provide it if needed.
scooter boy wrote:JHunty said that SmashEDO put up posters all over town. He has absolutely no proof of this at all. As usual he is posting stuff as fact with no supporting evidence. That's what he does. Never mind a pinch of salt you need enough salt to grit the M25 when dealing with JHunty.
gaz scott wrote:There were plenty of threats issued by left wing groups prior to this march,im happy to search them out for you and post them here ? I should also state that the evidence of violence by these left wing groups on the day is freely available all over the net.
AmboGuy wrote:Well actually he's just saying it but that doesn't make it true. As usual with anything JHunty says you should take it with a pinch (or sack) of salt as he rarely backs anything he says up with actual facts and has very often been proved wrong. He always goes very quiet once asked to back up his statements.
JHunty wrote:Never knew that. It seems whenever there's any trouble or violencei that SmashEDO are never too far behind it really.
wharrgarbl wrote:Yeah but the trouble with your argument is that it was SmashEdo who put up posters all over town telling people to oppose the march "in anyway you feel comfortable with" which is clearly an incitement to violence and indeed proved to be exactly that.
First of all, who brings children to a march which, in previous years, has been associated with violence? Second of all, the throwing of cans etc. from the counter-demonstrator
s started because the MFE lot started throwing stuff first. Third of all, one of the police officers was actually was injured by a marcher with the MFE - someone threw a brick at the march and one of them tried to lob it back, failed, and hit the officer in the head. All of which one of my friends saw directly. Please dig a bit deeper before you start making things up. I don't condone any of the violence from either side, but the EDL/MFE crowd are definitely the ones at fault here, mainly because they're a bunch of violent racist thugs.
The violence was started by SmashEdo and the UAF, so stop lying. Why shouldnt a ten year old girl be able to attend a peaceful march with her parents? Because your mates think its ok to use violence to stop people from exercising their democratic right to peaceful protest?
gaz scott
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7:36pm Tue 22 May 12
The whole "who started it" debate has been covered numerous times already and is slightly tedious. I could also point you to loads of explicit threats made by right-wing groups and footage of them throwing things. Proves nothing really but please feel free to give us some links.
AmboGuy
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10:58pm Tue 22 May 12
Andy R
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11:30pm Tue 22 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:.....and this is relevant to this discussion....how?..
Come on Andy you never answered the question - are you a public sector worker?
..exactly?
In any case, as you must surely know, I must be an unwashed squatter on benefits mustn't I?
Andy R
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11:36pm Tue 22 May 12
the_frog
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9:46am Wed 23 May 12
Why shouldn't you bring a 10 year old to a peaceful march?
Because the march had one purpose - to provoke a reaction. The EDL anticipated, and hoped for, a violent response to their march so they could claim the moral high ground.
I didn't see what happened around the station, but when the march was diverted down the lanes, TWO people were responsible for throwing bottles; I watched as they dragged a dustbin full of bottles from the rear of a bar and started throwing; They managed very few before police horses cordoned the area off.
The two people throwing bottles were masked, and neither as far as I can see are in the pictures the police released.
There are some here - http://bit.ly/LpWPXv
99% of protesters were non-violent and a reasonable percentage of them were - like myself - non-political. I'm not a socialist, anarchist, or anything else. I'm a middle aged guy who found the EDL march, and everything they stand for, unacceptable in my home city.
mimseycal
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10:36am Wed 23 May 12
Tim Wise wrote:Debbie? Is that Debbie Spear that was?
Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, liberals and respectable conservatives agree I am a naziwhowantstokillsi
xmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
It is the same incoherent gobble-de-cook that poster used to come out with from the same semi-literate hymn sheet with the same insular agenda.
Sussex Man
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10:44am Wed 23 May 12
Why don't the Reds stick to organising their own marches, instead of attacking Patriotic marches?
AmboGuy
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11:22am Wed 23 May 12
Andy R wrote:Got it's like trying to get a straight answer from a politician. Is it relevant? I would say that if one public sector worker is actively supporting a group such as SmashEDO , a group who like to assault Police Officers, then yes it is.
AmboGuy wrote:.....and this is relevant to this discussion....how?..
Come on Andy you never answered the question - are you a public sector worker?
..exactly?
In any case, as you must surely know, I must be an unwashed squatter on benefits mustn't I?
So come on then yes or no? It's really not a difficult question.
gaz scott
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11:34am Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:I don't think Andy R's job is any great secret is it?
Andy R wrote:Got it's like trying to get a straight answer from a politician. Is it relevant? I would say that if one public sector worker is actively supporting a group such as SmashEDO , a group who like to assault Police Officers, then yes it is.
AmboGuy wrote:.....and this is relevant to this discussion....how?..
Come on Andy you never answered the question - are you a public sector worker?
..exactly?
In any case, as you must surely know, I must be an unwashed squatter on benefits mustn't I?
So come on then yes or no? It's really not a difficult question.
Seems to me he's sensibly just choosing not to respond to one of the biggest and most annoying Trolls on this site.
Andy R
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12:23pm Wed 23 May 12
gaz scott wrote:Thanks Gaz. Couldn't have put it better myself.
AmboGuy wrote:I don't think Andy R's job is any great secret is it? Seems to me he's sensibly just choosing not to respond to one of the biggest and most annoying Trolls on this site.Andy R wrote:Got it's like trying to get a straight answer from a politician. Is it relevant? I would say that if one public sector worker is actively supporting a group such as SmashEDO , a group who like to assault Police Officers, then yes it is. So come on then yes or no? It's really not a difficult question.AmboGuy wrote: Come on Andy you never answered the question - are you a public sector worker?.....and this is relevant to this discussion....how?.. ..exactly? In any case, as you must surely know, I must be an unwashed squatter on benefits mustn't I?
AmboGuy
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2:01pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy, you say your job's no secret yet I don't know what it is and you seem very reluctant to answer what is a simple question.
So again, are you a public sector worker? Maybe you would like to answer without your guardian angel stepping in to help you this time.
Andy R
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2:23pm Wed 23 May 12
Er...that's it!
AmboGuy
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2:42pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R
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2:50pm Wed 23 May 12
And yes...AmboHunty. The same obsessive stalking behaviour and the same preoccupations. It's too much of a coincidence.
gaz scott
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2:58pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R wrote:Well not convinced myself that they are one and the same though I'm pretty sure AmboGuy has some other aliases. For a start JHunty seems aware of your job (like most of the rest of us) and AmboGuy seems slightly clueless in that regard (and many other regards). But who knows?
No, Gaz has got right, AmboHunty. You're a troll.
Er...that's it!
He is very definitely an annoying Troll though.
Best summed up by:"Arguing with Trolls is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are at chess the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, mess on the board and strut around like it’s victorious."
AmboGuy
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3:02pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R
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3:06pm Wed 23 May 12
gaz scott
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3:29pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R wrote:Luckily the higher courts rarely listen to hearsay and malicious gossip of the type routinely peddled on this site by AmboGuy and JHunty and usually only deal in provable facts. Must be very frustrating for them both.
But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.
AmboGuy
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3:44pm Wed 23 May 12
gaz scott
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3:54pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Oh yes so we are. What are the chances?
Hey you two seem to always be on this forum at the same time - interesting.
Getting a bit desperate aren't you?
menowhere
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5:02pm Wed 23 May 12
that is all.
mimseycal
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5:25pm Wed 23 May 12
Do any of you know these men pictured above? Yes? Good, call the police. No? Fine ... move on please, nothing to see here!
AmboGuy
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6:00pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R wrote:So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.
gaz scott
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6:54pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Not so dim witted I haven't worked out where he works and what he does though.
Andy R wrote:So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.
AmboGuy
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7:06pm Wed 23 May 12
gaz scott wrote:Hush boy. Andy could you answer yourself without your student mate helping you out.
AmboGuy wrote:Not so dim witted I haven't worked out where he works and what he does though.
Andy R wrote:So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.
Andy R
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9:14pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Tell you what....you post your full real name and address here, with your next reply, and I'll consider it.
gaz scott wrote:Hush boy. Andy could you answer yourself without your student mate helping you out.AmboGuy wrote:Not so dim witted I haven't worked out where he works and what he does though.Andy R wrote: But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
What possible objection could you have to that?
Andy R
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9:29pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:I thought me and Gaz were the same person anyway. So he can answer for me can't he.....?
gaz scott wrote:Hush boy. Andy could you answer yourself without your student mate helping you out.AmboGuy wrote:Not so dim witted I haven't worked out where he works and what he does though.Andy R wrote: But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
Levent
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9:47pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy
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9:49pm Wed 23 May 12
mimseycal
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9:57pm Wed 23 May 12
Andy R
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10:02pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Fail! One job - and you blew it.
Pathetic diversion tactic? Why would I publish my name and address? I don't care what your full name and address is do I? You know what I do for a job. I'm public sector so wouldn't want to support any group who regularly go against my own. It's a very simple question but I guess you have your reasons for feeling you can't answer it, I suppose your employers wouldn't like to know who you're associated with. Thanks for the politicians answers, if you don't want to say then just say so.
You seem to have forgotten why you wanted the information in the first place, let alone what on earth made you think you had some right to it.
I'm not telling you because it's none of your business, just as any personal information about you is none of mine.
Shall we leave it there?
Robbadob
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10:38pm Wed 23 May 12
Sorry for not asking what anyone else's job is- I genuinely don't care
AmboGuy
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10:38pm Wed 23 May 12
gaz scott
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11:33pm Wed 23 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:Oh nice 60's flashback. Thanks Ambo.
gaz scott wrote:Hush boy. Andy could you answer yourself without your student mate helping you out.
AmboGuy wrote:Not so dim witted I haven't worked out where he works and what he does though.
Andy R wrote:So if as you're saying there's no problem with SmashEDO then your employers won't mind you being associated with them will they? So who do you work for then? Could you answer please and not your dim witted spokesman. Thanks.
But it's complete nonsense. Smash EDO activists don't go round assaulting the police. As far as I can ascertain, every criminal trial involving Smash EDO has resulted in acquittal, most notably when a jury decided that their actions were entirely justifiable in preventing a greater crime. Maybe that's what annoys you so much.
Robbadob
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11:44pm Wed 23 May 12
They claim to be coming to Brighton to celebrate the jubilee and just a group of friends meeting for a drink. Their threats since MfE have resulted in Sussex Police taking an interest.
http://casualsunited
.wordpress.com/2012/
05/23/brighton-jubil
ee-weekend-update-ed
l/#comments
gaz scott
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12:05am Thu 24 May 12
Robbadob wrote:I'm sure JHunty, AmboGuy and others will be there in spirit with their crusader pals defending all decent people against the "White Genocide" that some in Brighton are so determined to ignore.
Maybe it's connected to fears of what far-right "patriots" have planned for June 2nd.
They claim to be coming to Brighton to celebrate the jubilee and just a group of friends meeting for a drink. Their threats since MfE have resulted in Sussex Police taking an interest.
http://casualsunited
.wordpress.com/2012/
05/23/brighton-jubil
ee-weekend-update-ed
l/#comments
willy harris
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4:25am Thu 24 May 12
AmboGuy
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8:10am Thu 24 May 12
willy harris wrote:Yes it is. Another typical comment from Gaz 'citizen Smith' Scott there who's now alleging that I'm part of MfE!! Typical trolling there and reinforces the SmashEDO line of 'if you don't support us then you're a far right racist'!! Typical idealistic student!
yawn goodnight all,its getting silly .why dont you all get real.
Andy R
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12:11pm Thu 24 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:It's a reasonable assumption, given your obsessive, and vaguely bullying behaviour towards people who don't share your politics.
willy harris wrote: yawn goodnight all,its getting silly .why dont you all get real.Yes it is. Another typical comment from Gaz 'citizen Smith' Scott there who's now alleging that I'm part of MfE!! Typical trolling there and reinforces the SmashEDO line of 'if you don't support us then you're a far right racist'!! Typical idealistic student!
gaz scott
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2:50pm Thu 24 May 12
AmboGuy wrote:You don't like it when people make assumptions about you do you but you are known by the ease with which you make assumptions about others.
willy harris wrote:Yes it is. Another typical comment from Gaz 'citizen Smith' Scott there who's now alleging that I'm part of MfE!! Typical trolling there and reinforces the SmashEDO line of 'if you don't support us then you're a far right racist'!! Typical idealistic student!
yawn goodnight all,its getting silly .why dont you all get real.
You seem convinced I'm a student even though I've denied it repeatedly. There's nothing wrong with being a student it's just that I'm not one and unfortunately not very young either. I object to you continually making assumptions about me based on nothing but your usual inability to think in anything other than simple stereotypes.
So a bit of your own medicine and you now know how annoying it is.
AmboGuy
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3:12pm Thu 24 May 12
Andy R wrote:'Bullying behaviour towards people who don't share my views'?? I should join SmashEDO with an attitude like that, maybe we're not so different.
AmboGuy wrote:It's a reasonable assumption, given your obsessive, and vaguely bullying behaviour towards people who don't share your politics.
willy harris wrote: yawn goodnight all,its getting silly .why dont you all get real.Yes it is. Another typical comment from Gaz 'citizen Smith' Scott there who's now alleging that I'm part of MfE!! Typical trolling there and reinforces the SmashEDO line of 'if you don't support us then you're a far right racist'!! Typical idealistic student!
voiceofthescoombe
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6:00pm Thu 24 May 12
Your always going to get a few idiots attachd to protests.
If it was completely innocent you wouldnt have a massive counter protest.
The problem with uk nationlism is they are not really into democracy or tolerance
hubby
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7:28pm Thu 24 May 12
Violence is NEVER the answer.
tengri
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11:06pm Thu 24 May 12
voiceofthescoombe wrote:If it was completely innocent it wouldn't have a massive counter protest?? My God sir (or madam) you are a naive child. The counter protest is entirely political and is intended to ensure the public continue to blur the distinction, as you do, between nationalism and racism. In reality the two are completely different but whilst you and others keep falling for the same nonsense anybody who wishes to stand up and put this nation first will be dismissed as a racist. Note I said nation not race - oh and putting England first doesn't mean you have to hate everyone or even anyone else.
The march for england is not an innocent march about st george its more an angry demo about muslamic ray guns attempting to steal our precious bodly fluids.
Your always going to get a few idiots attachd to protests.
If it was completely innocent you wouldnt have a massive counter protest.
The problem with uk nationlism is they are not really into democracy or tolerance
I have no idea about the real motives of MfE but motives of the fascistic "anti-fascists" are very clear.
Robbadob
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1:09am Fri 25 May 12
It was because of these links that there was a counter demo.
Fascistic implies organized and disciplined- this wouldn't describe either the march or counter demo.
tengri
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3:07am Fri 25 May 12
The counter demo was politically motivated. That is quite obvious. MfE is not a vehicle for hatred but the fascists pretended they were as an excuse to mobilise.
This nation needs nationalism not racism. We are governed by the EU and until we regain powers we cannot move forward as a nation. You left wing fascists try to pretend race is involved but that is ridiculous. A real nationalist is entirely uninterested in race unlike the left who seem obsessed by it.
willy harris
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6:47am Fri 25 May 12
turtling. wrote:very funny mister turtle,
1. Fergie
2. Eric Cantona
3. Dirk Kuyt
4. Wayne Rooney
5. Greg James
willy harris
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6:52am Fri 25 May 12
turtling. wrote:very funny mister turtle,
1. Fergie
2. Eric Cantona
3. Dirk Kuyt
4. Wayne Rooney
5. Greg James
mimseycal
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7:48am Fri 25 May 12
tengri wrote:Oh for Pete's sake. Either you are simple or simply refusing to see. Look at the links your MfE has on its very own forum, not to mention the 'Friends' it claims to hold dear.
Fascistic in that they wish to prevent freedom of speech. I'm afraid that just because casualsunited support MfE that doesn't mean there is an ideological link. Your logical thought processes are clearly very poor .
The counter demo was politically motivated. That is quite obvious. MfE is not a vehicle for hatred but the fascists pretended they were as an excuse to mobilise.
This nation needs nationalism not racism. We are governed by the EU and until we regain powers we cannot move forward as a nation. You left wing fascists try to pretend race is involved but that is ridiculous. A real nationalist is entirely uninterested in race unlike the left who seem obsessed by it.
http://s15.zetaboard
s.com/March_For_Engl
and/pages/links/
By all means stand up for what you believe in but at least have the courage of your own convictions and see them through and for what they are.
I opposed the counter demonstrations BTW. Always have done and always will do. Not because I agree with the stand you are claiming to hold but because I think that sometimes the best way to deal with short sighted, naive, nincompoops is to ignore them.
You may sincerely hold that 'Real' Nationalism is not about race, ethnicity or insularity. If that is the case, you need to go and educate yourselves a bit. There is a huge divide between an honestly and sincerely held pride in your nation and Nationalism.
cancelaccount
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12:47pm Fri 25 May 12
number two is my neighbour, oops!!!
number three is that bloke from the stereo MC's - yeah yeah yeah
number fours sideburns are bit too big for it to be Wayne Rooney! possibly Phil Hardings (him of off of Timeteam) younger brother
and numero Five is any chav you're likely to meet from Whitehawk or Moulescum, just arrest the most likely looking numpty and he'll probably be your man
tengri
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12:56pm Fri 25 May 12
mimseycal wrote:Nonsense. Nationalism does not have anything to do with race. You have naively believed the political opponents of the nation state who associate it with racism because that is an easy to way to destroy it.
tengri wrote:Oh for Pete's sake. Either you are simple or simply refusing to see. Look at the links your MfE has on its very own forum, not to mention the 'Friends' it claims to hold dear.
Fascistic in that they wish to prevent freedom of speech. I'm afraid that just because casualsunited support MfE that doesn't mean there is an ideological link. Your logical thought processes are clearly very poor .
The counter demo was politically motivated. That is quite obvious. MfE is not a vehicle for hatred but the fascists pretended they were as an excuse to mobilise.
This nation needs nationalism not racism. We are governed by the EU and until we regain powers we cannot move forward as a nation. You left wing fascists try to pretend race is involved but that is ridiculous. A real nationalist is entirely uninterested in race unlike the left who seem obsessed by it.
http://s15.zetaboard
s.com/March_For_Engl
and/pages/links/
By all means stand up for what you believe in but at least have the courage of your own convictions and see them through and for what they are.
I opposed the counter demonstrations BTW. Always have done and always will do. Not because I agree with the stand you are claiming to hold but because I think that sometimes the best way to deal with short sighted, naive, nincompoops is to ignore them.
You may sincerely hold that 'Real' Nationalism is not about race, ethnicity or insularity. If that is the case, you need to go and educate yourselves a bit. There is a huge divide between an honestly and sincerely held pride in your nation and Nationalism.
I frankly don't care about MfE, my point is about nationalism. The counter demonstrators also do not care about MfE, only to once again use any opportunity to link national pride with racism or fascism.
Of course nationalism attracts racist nutters, all political viewpoints have their associated nutters, often these are just as racist. To me the positive discrimination of the socialists is racist and condescending to ethnic minorities.
There are different forms of nationalism, you have made the old mistake of linking all nationalists together. I don't blame you, it is very normal but very wrong.
Ethnic and racial nationalists are not thinking straight. They are in fact in the minority though the majority don't realise it. There is no place in politics for discussions about race or ethnicity - a nation should operate on the merit of it's people not their racial or ethnic background. I am against both positive and negative discrimination, it is time we moved beyond such racist, ignorant and archaic ideas.
mimseycal
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1:17pm Fri 25 May 12
That isn't naivete ... that is dealing with reality as it is represented by the website itself.
tengri
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2:42pm Fri 25 May 12
mimseycal wrote:That is such a basic website and the links are not necessarily indicative of MfE anyway, as they clearly state. It is quite obvious the MfE are an insignificance blown out of proportion to suit the politics of the socialists. You are kidding yourself if you think the counter demonstrators really believe MfE or even EDL are a threat. They hijack these events to push their own socialist agenda and call you a racist if you do not accept it.
All I can go by is the links MfE has on its very own website when I consider the type of Nationalism they espouse.
That isn't naivete ... that is dealing with reality as it is represented by the website itself.
Stick to the real issues. Why is this country paying billions to the EU and getting nothing in return except for straight jacket policies that damage our ability to grow out of this recession. Why is immigration even required with so many jobless existing residents? Why are we forced to watch our businesses fail simply to abide by EU regulations that no other nation bothers with?
If you really do have national pride you should fight for your country and not allow it to be ruled by people with no accountability and no interest in the consequences of their actions. Don't worry, it won't make you a racist no matter how much the UAF and other fascist groups try to pretend it will.
mimseycal
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3:13pm Fri 25 May 12
End of story really ;)
mimseycal
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3:58pm Fri 25 May 12
Cory and Trevor
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3:52pm Sat 26 May 12
willy harris
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4:48am Sun 27 May 12
gaz scott wrote:if you dont know what they have allegedly done why are you even commenting on this subject,you can obviously read so my advice is look at things properly before you leap into action.also if these suspects seen their photos in the local press maybe someone like you should enlighten them,,
willy harris wrote:GUILTY? That sounds very sympathetic.
every time i read these comments im amazed too see the same old names saying the same old rubbish,just stop trying to be clever and think for one moment,,people have been hurt, the police want to find the persons responsible,they have certain photographs of suspects.so why dont they come forward maybe to clear their names??i can only think of one reason ,GUILTY.so folks dont keep trying to out do each other with fancy arguments be a little bit more sympathetic,
I don't know what they've allegedly done but I also don't know if they've seen that they've been plastered over the local press or if they have actually eliminated themselves from police enquiries or will do so once they realise the police are looking for them.
So let's reserve judgement on their guilt or innocence shall we!
gaz scott
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6:19pm Mon 28 May 12
willy harris wrote:My point exactly.
gaz scott wrote:if you dont know what they have allegedly done why are you even commenting on this subject,you can obviously read so my advice is look at things properly before you leap into action.also if these suspects seen their photos in the local press maybe someone like you should enlighten them,,
willy harris wrote:GUILTY? That sounds very sympathetic.
every time i read these comments im amazed too see the same old names saying the same old rubbish,just stop trying to be clever and think for one moment,,people have been hurt, the police want to find the persons responsible,they have certain photographs of suspects.so why dont they come forward maybe to clear their names??i can only think of one reason ,GUILTY.so folks dont keep trying to out do each other with fancy arguments be a little bit more sympathetic,
I don't know what they've allegedly done but I also don't know if they've seen that they've been plastered over the local press or if they have actually eliminated themselves from police enquiries or will do so once they realise the police are looking for them.
So let's reserve judgement on their guilt or innocence shall we!
clubrob6 says...
2:19pm Mon 21 May 12