Children rescued from burning Brighton building (From The Argus)

There where two teenagers and a 3 year old boy that were saved they were our friends and yes western road was closed off because they had to brake the window to put out the fire in the room one window faces western road and the other faces Clarence sq so that is why western road was closed off!

I hope everyone is ok.

By the way, you don't 'try and' do something, you 'try to' do something.

Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize.

Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

Good to see the police getting in the way of the fire fighters. Luckily the fire crews didnt have to waste their time and risk their lives saving 5 extra casualties!!

What are on about, Goldenwight? What's the truth, then?

Goldenwight wrote:
Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize.

Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

I am a relative of the people involved and was helping them clear out their flat yesterday. Apart from a few minor inconsistencies like the boy is 3 not 4yrs old, the story is accurate. It has been a very stressful and frightening event for all involved and the repercussions of losing their home and belongings are ongoing. Please have a little respect and refrain from making pointless and upsetting comments Goldenwright.

cazm1973 wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize.

Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

I am a relative of the people involved and was helping them clear out their flat yesterday. Apart from a few minor inconsistencies like the boy is 3 not 4yrs old, the story is accurate. It has been a very stressful and frightening event for all involved and the repercussions of losing their home and belongings are ongoing. Please have a little respect and refrain from making pointless and upsetting comments Goldenwright.

Good spot cazm1973! We've got another moron.

cazm1973 wrote:

Goldenwight wrote: Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize. Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

I am a relative of the people involved and was helping them clear out their flat yesterday. Apart from a few minor inconsistencies like the boy is 3 not 4yrs old, the story is accurate. It has been a very stressful and frightening event for all involved and the repercussions of losing their home and belongings are ongoing. Please have a little respect and refrain from making pointless and upsetting comments Goldenwright.

Just a question..(as you are a relative):

Do you think it was acceptable for the parents to go out to the pub for the night, leaving their 3 year old being looked after by a 15 year old girl and her boyfriend?

Ever heard of Madeleine McCann?

These parents should be VERY thankful they still have a 3 year old boy to cuddle. As you will know from seeing inside their flat, it was a severe fire.

to monkeymoo

I am the parent that left a very responsible 14 year old and her boy friend for a few hours while I went for a social outing which in most peoples judgement is very acceptable.
We are so lucky that our situation is not so much worse as it could of been but how can you say my judgement was unacceptable the fire would of been just as bad if we were there and as to your comment about the police being in the way they saved my child and my sister! did you see inside my flat? because you cant comment/slate something you clearly dont know anything about. we are going through such a traumatic time due to an ACCIDENT and would prefer not to see pointless comments

monkeymoo wrote:

cazm1973 wrote:

Goldenwight wrote: Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize. Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

I am a relative of the people involved and was helping them clear out their flat yesterday. Apart from a few minor inconsistencies like the boy is 3 not 4yrs old, the story is accurate. It has been a very stressful and frightening event for all involved and the repercussions of losing their home and belongings are ongoing. Please have a little respect and refrain from making pointless and upsetting comments Goldenwright.

Just a question..(as you are a relative):

Do you think it was acceptable for the parents to go out to the pub for the night, leaving their 3 year old being looked after by a 15 year old girl and her boyfriend?

Ever heard of Madeleine McCann?

These parents should be VERY thankful they still have a 3 year old boy to cuddle. As you will know from seeing inside their flat, it was a severe fire.

Madeleine McCann was left without a babysitter whilst the parents were very nearby. I don't consider that unacceptable, to be honest, but our situation is completely different to that of the MCanns anyway ! Why are you doing this ?

clarence3021 wrote:
to monkeymoo

I am the parent that left a very responsible 14 year old and her boy friend for a few hours while I went for a social outing which in most peoples judgement is very acceptable.
We are so lucky that our situation is not so much worse as it could of been but how can you say my judgement was unacceptable the fire would of been just as bad if we were there and as to your comment about the police being in the way they saved my child and my sister! did you see inside my flat? because you cant comment/slate something you clearly dont know anything about. we are going through such a traumatic time due to an ACCIDENT and would prefer not to see pointless comments

Well said :)

cazm1973 wrote:

monkeymoo wrote:

cazm1973 wrote:

Goldenwight wrote: Wonderful story Bill. If it were only true, you would probably win a prize. Regrettablly, it is complete garbage, isn;t it? Apart from the fact that FireTeam attended, there is not a single shred of truth in that story. Hang your head and apologize to your readers.

I am a relative of the people involved and was helping them clear out their flat yesterday. Apart from a few minor inconsistencies like the boy is 3 not 4yrs old, the story is accurate. It has been a very stressful and frightening event for all involved and the repercussions of losing their home and belongings are ongoing. Please have a little respect and refrain from making pointless and upsetting comments Goldenwright.

Just a question..(as you are a relative):

Do you think it was acceptable for the parents to go out to the pub for the night, leaving their 3 year old being looked after by a 15 year old girl and her boyfriend?

Ever heard of Madeleine McCann?

These parents should be VERY thankful they still have a 3 year old boy to cuddle. As you will know from seeing inside their flat, it was a severe fire.

Madeleine McCann was left without a babysitter whilst the parents were very nearby. I don't consider that unacceptable, to be honest, but our situation is completely different to that of the MCanns anyway ! Why are you doing this ?

"Madeleine McCann was left without a babysitter whilst the parents were very nearby. I don't consider that unacceptable, to be honest, but our situation is completely different to that of the MCanns anyway ! Why are you doing this ?"

can of worms getting opened here, the mcanns were not very nearby, THREE young children were left alone, some would say abandoned whilst the parents were both enjoying a meal with friends at a resturant some 10 minutes walk away from their apartment that was completely unobservable from the resturant and in a foreign country to boot.
as father of 5 children i would point out that leaving a competant, known person, who is 14 years old to baby sit is not only completely acceptable but also completely legal, accidents can and do happen. internet trolls are not an accident just sad people who cannot put forward a reasonable or pertinant point, they are best ignored.
glad everybody was safe after such a traumatic experience.

thank you john steed very well said

clarence3021 wrote:
to monkeymoo I am the parent that left a very responsible 14 year old and her boy friend for a few hours while I went for a social outing which in most peoples judgement is very acceptable. We are so lucky that our situation is not so much worse as it could of been but how can you say my judgement was unacceptable the fire would of been just as bad if we were there and as to your comment about the police being in the way they saved my child and my sister! did you see inside my flat? because you cant comment/slate something you clearly dont know anything about. we are going through such a traumatic time due to an ACCIDENT and would prefer not to see pointless comments

Firstly, I wish you all the best with getting through this traumatic time.

I was simply asking a question, if you cannot read that, then that is NOT my fault. To reply to you though;


The 14 year old was responsible enough to leave a candle burning whilst being in a different room?...fair enough!

The Police DIDNT save your child.....The fire service did.
The Police were very nearly casualties as well.

Smoke alarms?

MoronSpotter wrote:
What are on about, Goldenwight? What's the truth, then?

Ignore him. He's just a bitter tramp living in a cardboard box!

Well done to all of those involved in the rescue.

according to the official story regarding the Mcanns, they dined at a tapas bar that was 120M away (about 1 min) from their apartment. My recollection of the story was that they were within sight of their apartment but it seems this might not be true. They checked on them approx. every 20 mins. If I am honest, I don't think I would have done the same, but remember thinking at the time that I could forgive them for feeling comfortable with the arrgt.

I imagine if it was the other way round monkeymoo would be the first to shout out "WHY DID THE POLICE STAND AROUND DOING NOTHING FOR 5 MINUTES WHILST WAITING FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.... SURELY THEY COULD HAVE BROKEN THE DOOR DOWN OR SOMETHING!!!"

Loser

I'm glad everyone is ok and I really hope you are able to build a home up again shortly.

I recently had a fire in my home which turned out to be minor but it was very scary and very traumatic for my child. The fire brigade and paramedics were brilliant!!

People on here who want to just point fingers and be rude, a question for you 'Are you perfect? It really is like you cannot wait to get on here and have a go. Its silly and boring.

cant believe some of the comments on here thinking this stories fake and slating the parents im a friend of the parents and i would of done the same i would much rather leave a trusting family member with my child than a random babysitter get a life whoever thinks this was wrong

What a sad state the world is in. Apparently, accidents can no longer happen without someone trying to lay the blame on somebody else these days. Monkeymoo, keep your comments to yourself. Go take a walk along the beach or something. This young family have been through enough and do not need your petty sentiments to top it all off.

Best of luck to the family and remember to call on me should you need any help. You know who I am ;)

Leon wrote:
I imagine if it was the other way round monkeymoo would be the first to shout out "WHY DID THE POLICE STAND AROUND DOING NOTHING FOR 5 MINUTES WHILST WAITING FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.... SURELY THEY COULD HAVE BROKEN THE DOOR DOWN OR SOMETHING!!!" Loser

If it was the other way around.... I wouldn't have left a 14 year old girl and her boyfriend in charge of my child.

What planet do you live on where you think that all their attention will be with looking after the little boy!?

The NSPCC even state that "although there is no legal age for a baby sitter, it is recommended that they are AT LEAST 16 years old"

http://www.eastsusse
x.gov.uk/childrenand
families/childcare/d
efault1.htm

By your comment about " breaking the door down" it is clear you know nothing about fire! Ever heard of "backdraft", and why it occurs?
Having been a firefighter in London for 20 years now (and good friends with some of the firefighters that were at THIS job), It is VERY LUCKY the little boy survived, and VERY LUCKY the police didn't make the situation worse.
I certainly would not expect ANYONE to battle into a house on fire that didn't have the right training, backup or equipment to do so. One lung full of "smoke" will kill.


Loser!
The Police need some training in this area.

Just to add.....

I think the police do a fantastic job, that is made very difficult for them by the public and by their management.

I believe, and i'm sure i'm not alone, that the police need some sort of training in situations like this. Otherwise simply heroic actions can cause rapidly worsening conditions and lots more casualties will occur.

Well done to all the emergency services that worked well together that night to save the lives of 3 children.

blah blah blah yada yada yada Everyone is ALIVE thats the main thing

Lets put it this way you who where not there, don't know anything about what happened the paper has blown it out so much the two teenagers tried their best to get out and they are the ones who broke the window first not the fireman so how can you say that the fireman were the ones who did that when I was there I saw the whole thing as they are my friends and very good friends, so to those of you who think you where there don't make out that you know anything when you where not there so to their family we are here for you no matter what happens you are good people and don't let some shoddy person tell you other wise they don't know anything about you as a family!

dragonfly20 wrote:
Lets put it this way you who where not there, don't know anything about what happened the paper has blown it out so much the two teenagers tried their best to get out and they are the ones who broke the window first not the fireman so how can you say that the fireman were the ones who did that when I was there I saw the whole thing as they are my friends and very good friends, so to those of you who think you where there don't make out that you know anything when you where not there so to their family we are here for you no matter what happens you are good people and don't let some shoddy person tell you other wise they don't know anything about you as a family!

If anyone can understand this...please translate!!

Maybe this was written by the 3 year old boy? Sorry, a 3 year old would have better grammar!

So, just to clarify; the TWO windows that were broken, none of them were by the fire service? How did the little boy manage to break his bedroom window then, and "climb" down a ladder in a fireman's arms?
Guess you know nothing!!

I wish Monkeymoo had stated that he was an experienced fireman from the outset. We now know to take your opinion very seriously. Must say it is very worrying to think of the police making considerable attempts to break in through the front door, not knowing that had they succeeded, it might have greatly accelerated the fires progress and further risked the lives of those still inside the property. I am very surprised to hear that basic fire training theory is not provided to police officers.

I would also like to add that the two teenagers involved whilst clearly horrified by the results of their uncharacteristic loss of concentration, are normally very sensible and responsible people. Whilst they were effectively trapped in the end bedroom, they considered leaving the bedroom to try and rescue the 3yr old boy but had the sense to realise that this could make things much worse for them and the boy and conentrated on attracting the attention of passers by and staying put. Having discussed their situation it seems this was not an easy decision to make as one of them was the sister of the little boy. Well done to them for not letting their emotions overcome their common sense under extreme duress.

I meant to say Auntie of the boy, not sister. Sorry.

cazm1973 wrote:
I would also like to add that the two teenagers involved whilst clearly horrified by the results of their uncharacteristic loss of concentration, are normally very sensible and responsible people. Whilst they were effectively trapped in the end bedroom, they considered leaving the bedroom to try and rescue the 3yr old boy but had the sense to realise that this could make things much worse for them and the boy and conentrated on attracting the attention of passers by and staying put. Having discussed their situation it seems this was not an easy decision to make as one of them was the sister of the little boy. Well done to them for not letting their emotions overcome their common sense under extreme duress.

I totally agree.

The two young people at the front of the house remained very calm considering the situation.
Well done to them for that.

If anyone can understand this...please translate!!

Maybe this was written by the 3 year old boy? Sorry, a 3 year old would have better grammar!

So, just to clarify; the TWO windows that were broken, none of them were by the fire service? How did the little boy manage to break his bedroom window then, and "climb" down a ladder in a fireman's arms?
Guess you know nothing!!

You don't know anything monkeymoo you were not there so how do you know what happened they two teenagers were the ones who broke the window first. I am not a child I was there and I am the one who helped them get rescued from my flat which was directly under theirs, so you don't know what you are F****g talking about okay so get a life and let my friends grieve on their loss.

I was delayed to work that day and surprised to see Western Road shut off. When I read about the incident on this website, I noted that I should do this, that is, write to express mighty thanks that the emergency services I saw rushing about did such a successful job. Well done and give yourselves a pat on the back. I commend the brave police who could were first on the scene.