Fat-loss firm sends text to sack its Brighton workers (From The Argus)

So what's the story here? These girls worked for a company that was happy to take money off fat people, offering them bogus fake treatments, and now they're aggrieved when the scam has imploded?

Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:
Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

I agree - the whole story here seems to be "Staff working for dodgy company selling fake product lose jobs"
Next time maybe they'll consider working for a slightly more ethical company and thus put themselves at less risk of redundancy.

I'll say one thing though - it's pretty ridiculous that the JobCentre "Plus" are pushing people into taking jobs with scam companies promoting fake products.

Hilariously, the Argus ads are still coming up at me saying "Lose a stone in 3 months" beside this story. All the lulz!

Never met the manager,set up treatment room themselves.Obvious scam use workers to clients realise treatment does not work,when complaints come in SHUT UP SHOP.I think these workers can say goodbye to any wages owed as they too have been scammed.Imust admit im guilty of using cowardly texting to dump a partner in the past so im not qualified to make comments on that score.

Company scams customers, Auditors highlight failings in control-not to mention products- then staff dismissed with no notice?

If there is anyone from Barclays watching, you appear to have achieved all but the last. Can you make it a priority?

Would they rather have waited 3 days to receive a letter?

Everyone lost POUNDS what's the problem?

I suppose it would be deeply unfair and inappropriate to make any comments regarding the size or figure of anyone working in a weight-loss, fat-zapping clinic?

Good will, no'one picked up on the incompetent spelling in the text, now that is something to moan about

Interviewed by email, sacked by text. At least the firm was consistent.

No one was sacked. They were made redundant when a dodgy company took the money and run. No story.

"whaddya think I got for brainz - adipose tissue already??" #MartinLuther

I would have just taken what I was owed in equipment and waited for them to get back to me in Person.

Never work for a company which interviews you by email.
The company bosses are probably so fat they don't want employees to see that their silly treatment doesn't work.

This was an offer through Groupon for Lipo-laser treatment (not necessarily just for "fat people", but to target problem areas and lose inches rapidly by breaking down the fat cells). I actually paid for this offer, and I actually ended up requesting a refund too after hearing concerning reports that people were not happy with the service. Reading this, I am glad I didn't go through with it because it concerns me greatly that three young girls were effectively left to run this on their own. To use laser equipment you need to have proper training and qualifications, and it bothers me that they do not appear to have been given any training by their manager or been supervised whilst using it??!! As sympathetic as I feel for these girls and the situation they now find themselves in (especially as I used to work for a certain Brighton based 'urban day-spa', with a manger who thought that she could adapt the employment laws to suit herself too!), I'm glad I didn't have the treatment. I suggest the girls look into getting together and taking their former manager to an an employment tribunal, as people like this cannot be allowed to keep getting away with putting their customers at risk, and messing around their staff, just for their own quick profit.

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:
Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

To confirm your questions, we took NO money of clients. We were employed under and hourly rate, we didn't even deal with the bookings or payment of the clients that was all done via a call center we just got a sheet daily to tell us who our clients were. The only reason I took this job is as I had to because the job center told me to. Before I took it I did a lot of research into to make sure the treatment we were doing wasn't just a scam and had been clinically approved. We built up a very good reputation with every single client we had and 99% of clients got results. All complaint were about the call center, booking system and management which we had no control over. We reported this to the newspaper so all client no we were cheated just as much as them and to warn any other people getting offers of the internet or working for a company with a similar system!!

fmiles wrote:

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:
Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

To confirm your questions, we took NO money of clients. We were employed under and hourly rate, we didn't even deal with the bookings or payment of the clients that was all done via a call center we just got a sheet daily to tell us who our clients were. The only reason I took this job is as I had to because the job center told me to. Before I took it I did a lot of research into to make sure the treatment we were doing wasn't just a scam and had been clinically approved. We built up a very good reputation with every single client we had and 99% of clients got results. All complaint were about the call center, booking system and management which we had no control over. We reported this to the newspaper so all client no we were cheated just as much as them and to warn any other people getting offers of the internet or working for a company with a similar system!!

The clients were still paying for the "treatment", and you were abetting that. There's more SCIENCE FACT in that reality than in anything to do with your "treatments". You behaved unethically. You got stung. Serves you right.

For goodness sake leave these young girls alone. At least they got off their backsides and tried to work at a time when we have record unemployment rates for the under 25s.
These girls were also ripped off.
However, remember fat people, the best way to lose weight is a healthy diet and exercise, anything else is a quick fix or water loss.
Women seem to fall prey to lazy fat loss methods.

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Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
For goodness sake leave these young girls alone. At least they got off their backsides and tried to work at a time when we have record unemployment rates for the under 25s.
These girls were also ripped off.
However, remember fat people, the best way to lose weight is a healthy diet and exercise, anything else is a quick fix or water loss.
Women seem to fall prey to lazy fat loss methods.

the only worthwhile comment so far, well said

The only worthwhile critique of a comment so far

If the jobcentre told you to take the job or lose your benefits take them to court as your employer

Ligand Fields wrote:

fmiles wrote:

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:
Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

To confirm your questions, we took NO money of clients. We were employed under and hourly rate, we didn't even deal with the bookings or payment of the clients that was all done via a call center we just got a sheet daily to tell us who our clients were. The only reason I took this job is as I had to because the job center told me to. Before I took it I did a lot of research into to make sure the treatment we were doing wasn't just a scam and had been clinically approved. We built up a very good reputation with every single client we had and 99% of clients got results. All complaint were about the call center, booking system and management which we had no control over. We reported this to the newspaper so all client no we were cheated just as much as them and to warn any other people getting offers of the internet or working for a company with a similar system!!

The clients were still paying for the "treatment", and you were abetting that. There's more SCIENCE FACT in that reality than in anything to do with your "treatments". You behaved unethically. You got stung. Serves you right.

You're such a jerk. One day, just maybe you'll "pronounce" on something you actually know about, but I'm not holding my breath......

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:
Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

The employees are no more complicit than Barclays retail employees are in the manipulation of LIBOR, get a grip pal.

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote: Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

The employees are no more complicit than Barclays retail employees are in the manipulation of LIBOR, get a grip pal.

Oh spare us the Nuremberg defence!

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote: Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

The employees are no more complicit than Barclays retail employees are in the manipulation of LIBOR, get a grip pal.

Oh spare us the Nuremberg defence!

Clearly not getting a grip then.....

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote:

Ligand Fields wrote:

sdhgfhfuyt wrote: Probably sums up the strength of the management, and their willingness to exploit dietary fads to make a short term gain at the expense of consumer and their employees - they were not tenured long enough to make an unfair dismissal claim I take it ?

in what way are the employees not complicit in the scam? How much money did this pair take off desperate fatties, with their bull-sheet "ultrasound" snake oil?

The employees are no more complicit than Barclays retail employees are in the manipulation of LIBOR, get a grip pal.

Oh spare us the Nuremberg defence!

If the girls believed that the treatment they were offering was worthwhile, they are not complicit in any scam.

How about telling us the truth instead of printing this distorted report? The Leader of 5 July displays the actual message the girls received. It says that the clinic will close for a month on a temporary basis; it would be unfair to keep them on and, importantly, when the clinic re-opens they would be happy to take them back on. OK, perhaps not very satisfactory for the girls or a good way for the company to behave, but not what you reported!!!