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    Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
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    Fight Back wrote: I bet she'd complain if she'd been refused the opportunity to stand as a councillor because she's a Christian. To use “conscience decision” as a reason to discriminate against someone is frankly unacceptable.
    I dunno, I think it's a worse crime to tell people how they should vote, and then censure them when they don't fall into line. She may well be away with the fairies (well, she IS a Green and therefore has a skewed view of reality), but politicians with principles are rare enough breed as it is without trying to crush the ones who DO dare to think for themselves. I don't agree with her (to put it mildly) but I do admire someone who has stuck her head above the parapet and is prepared to sacrifice any chance she may have had of climbing the greasy pole in order to make a moral stand.
    Oh I agree - councillors / politicians voting against party lines because they think that is the best thing to do is a good thing. What I object to in this case is someone hiding behind their religion to promote discrimination. If I were to discriminate against someone, or a group of people, due to their skin colour, gender or religion then I would rightly run the risk of prosecution. Christians need to move to the 21st century and leave their medieval discrimination in history where is belongs. In this day and age EVERYONE regardless of gender, sexuality, race, colour, creed or religion should have equal rights.
    No one is hiding behind religion to promote discrimination. Everyone has exactly the same rights. Nobody is allowed to marry a person of the same sex. What is being proposed is that the definition of marriage should be changed. Most Christians disagree with this and so do a lot of atheists.
    No everybody doesn't have the same rights. Somebody who is gay does not have the right to get married while someone who is heterosexual does. THAT is discrimination based on sexuality. It's about time the church and Christians stopped trying to control everyone's life and allowed true equality. Another good example of the church controlling this country is the Sunday trading laws - all based around the church wanting people to go to their services rather than shopping. Despite a majority of people NOT going to church on a Sunday.
    They do have the same rights. A homosexual can get married to a woman the same as any other man. Christians are entitled to express their views. If the Church controlled the country I doubt we would have a PM attempting to change the definition of marriage.
    What a ridiculous statement - why would a homosexual want to marry a woman ???? A perfect example of the blinkered ever controlling view of Christians. I never said Christians weren't entitled to express their views - what I said was that they are in a minority and that their views should not dictate policy on equality. Despite their arrogance thinking that they do the Christian church do not dictate the meaning of marriage. Gay people should have every right to get married just as straight people do. Unfortunately the Christian church has shown itself to be completely backwards with it's attitude to both gay clergyman and women bishops. Hardly a guiding light for society and that's without pointing out the sexual abuses within the Christian church. Christian = bigot = homophobic = hypocrite = not worth listening to.
    You'll need to ask Elton John why he married a woman. The law allows marriage between a man and a woman and that law applies to everyone. It does not discriminate. Some people wish to change the law but the Christian majority in this country oppose it as marriage is a Sacrament (you will need to look that up). Your snide abuse won't change the position but it does reveal the sort of person are."
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Godly Green councillor to face internal inquiry

The Argus: CONSCIENCE: Christina Summers CONSCIENCE: Christina Summers

A Green councillor who voted against supporting same-sex marriage will |have to defend her actions in front of an internal inquiry.

Every elected member on Brighton and Hove City Council except Christina Summers voted to lobby the Government to lift the ban.

This was despite the Greens being the first mainstream party to advocate making the marriages legal.

Coun Summers, who represents Hollingdean and Stanmer and is a devout Christian, said it was a “conscience decision”.

Phelim MacCafferty, the group’s deputy convenor, said: “Following the recent vote |by Coun Summers on equal marriage, Green councillors met on Monday evening and have requested that the party’s official inquiry process be initiated to ensure a fair, speedy and transparent outcome.

“It is for the inquiry panel to determine if any further action may be needed and it wouldn’t be appropriate to say any more at this stage.”

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