Sussex Police officer dismissed for ‘inappropriate behaviour’ (From The Argus)

thats a shame,i used to go to school with matthew & he had been in the police since leaving.

My god a good copper gets the push for making a silly remark! God help the future!

cops get away with too much including murders mendez and the newspaper seller to name just 2
they should get the same treatment as you or I

In all honesty officers do not and should not get the same treatment as you and I. Assuming that you, like me, are a mere average member of the public.

Police officers represent the forces of Law and Order and as such are required to hold to a much higher standard of personal conduct than most.

should be made to pay his wages back. Badge plus hat = power trip!

chrisinbrighton wrote:
cops get away with too much including murders mendez and the newspaper seller to name just 2
they should get the same treatment as you or I

Funny how people like chrisinbrighton are under the delusion that the police get away with too much. Recently a young man died of thirst because the doctors and nurses treating him denied him water, he even made an emergency call to the police asking to be allowed a drink, did chrisinbrighton demand a murder inquiry? Older patients are regularly prescribed water by their doctors because those caring for them cannot be relied upon to do their job, does chrisinbrighton post hate filled messages about nurses? Did chrisinbrighton demand justice for the elderly lady who died because doctors put her on a nil by mouth regime for 8 nights running meaning that by the time she under went the "emergency" operation she had come into hospital for she was dehydrated and more prone to catching an infection which she duly caught and died of? Did chrisinbrighton demand that the doctors and nurses that left a young girl to die on her own from an infection she caught in hospital and didn't even notice that she was dead until rigor mortis had set in despite the fact that the young girl was meant to be checked every four hours, be taken to court and treated just like the rest of us?
The police have their faults but the doctors and nurses working in the NHS are responsible for far more preventable deaths than the police people like chrisinbrighton are so hate filled that they can't see the wood for the trees.

There will always be those that have no respect for authority, probably due to a lack of discipline in their upbringing. They never had any boundaries when they were young and they resent it and anyone who enforces it in adulthood.

Political correctness gone mad. A good copper loses his job all because some do-gooding, leftie, liberal pro-taliban colleague makes a complaint.

Naturally Chief Super Robin Smith NEVER, NEVER, NEVER makes inappropriate comments.

Ridiculous decision.

Unless you were present when the remarks were made you have no idea to what extent the complainants over reacted. I should imagine that most police officers are pretty inured to being bad-mouthed. They get it quite a bit from members of the public.

Also, the charge wasn't just racism but bullying as well. I dare say that if the charge and dismissal were unwarranted that Matthew Presland can appeal.

JHunty. The lad in Hospital who called the Police for a drink of water didn't get one

chrisinbrighton wrote:
cops get away with too much including murders mendez and the newspaper seller to name just 2
they should get the same treatment as you or I

Save it for the Cowley Club mate. As someone has said, your lack of respect for authority reflects more on you and your upbringing than those you rail against.

Good.

No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

monkeymoo wrote:
Good.

No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism.

Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

mimseycal wrote:

monkeymoo wrote: Good. No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism. Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

You're exactly right......

Just ask the families of:

Ian Tomlinson,
Jean charles de menezes,
Mark Duggan,
Sean Rigg,
The 333 other deaths in custody since 1998, that i apologies for not writing all their names down.

Number of police disciplined over any of these?

ZERO!!!

If you want to (and if you can put down your copy of the Daily Mail) read...here is a link:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03
/deaths-police-custo
dy-officers-convicte
d

Enjoy your blinkered day.x

Nothing like a tad of generalisation is there.

1. I stated quite clearly MOST.
2. There is a difference between a system and the people that are obliged to work within it.

Do not confuse the two. It leads to muddled thinking ;)

There are a lot of things wrong with the system I'll grant you. However that is not the fault of individual officers who, in many instances, are as frustrated by its shortcomings as the rest of us.

****, cops seem to only kill decent people. They need more training do they can accidentally bump off some of the repeat offenders roaming our streets who never get a decent custodial sentence.
Police must try harder.

monkeymoo wrote:

mimseycal wrote:

monkeymoo wrote: Good. No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism. Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

You're exactly right......

Just ask the families of:

Ian Tomlinson,
Jean charles de menezes,
Mark Duggan,
Sean Rigg,
The 333 other deaths in custody since 1998, that i apologies for not writing all their names down.

Number of police disciplined over any of these?

ZERO!!!

If you want to (and if you can put down your copy of the Daily Mail) read...here is a link:

http://www.guardian.

co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03

/deaths-police-custo

dy-officers-convicte

d

Enjoy your blinkered day.x

Sorry I would post the names of all of the people who have been helped by the police but there's just too many to mention. I could mention the parents murdered schoolboy Connor Saunders who's killers were caught by Sussex Police. I could also mention PC Eric Wells who ran into a burning building and saved the people trapped inside. Of course there's also the arrest by Sussex Police of Graham Muggleton for attempting to murder his pregnant girlfriend. Let's not even mention the sea rescue carried out by a Sussex Police officer in Hastings last year of a man who jumped in and got into difficulty. Phew, I could go on but there's just way too many situations to mention of the police helping people on a daily basis (probably more than 333).

Enjoy your blinkered day X

AmboGuy wrote:

monkeymoo wrote:

mimseycal wrote:

monkeymoo wrote: Good. No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism. Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

You're exactly right......

Just ask the families of:

Ian Tomlinson,
Jean charles de menezes,
Mark Duggan,
Sean Rigg,
The 333 other deaths in custody since 1998, that i apologies for not writing all their names down.

Number of police disciplined over any of these?

ZERO!!!

If you want to (and if you can put down your copy of the Daily Mail) read...here is a link:

http://www.guardian.


co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03


/deaths-police-custo


dy-officers-convicte


d

Enjoy your blinkered day.x

Sorry I would post the names of all of the people who have been helped by the police but there's just too many to mention. I could mention the parents murdered schoolboy Connor Saunders who's killers were caught by Sussex Police. I could also mention PC Eric Wells who ran into a burning building and saved the people trapped inside. Of course there's also the arrest by Sussex Police of Graham Muggleton for attempting to murder his pregnant girlfriend. Let's not even mention the sea rescue carried out by a Sussex Police officer in Hastings last year of a man who jumped in and got into difficulty. Phew, I could go on but there's just way too many situations to mention of the police helping people on a daily basis (probably more than 333).

Enjoy your blinkered day X

Or that yet ANOTHER Chief Constable of Sussex is under formal investigation....

Or that Sussex Police have released this quietly under the FOI...

How many police officers have been 'disciplined' in the past 12 months
and in each case for what offence?

Authority, Respect and Courtesy = 4
Discreditable Conduct - 6
Duties and Responsibilities = 7
Confidentiality = 3
Use of Force = 3
Orders and Instructions = 5
Honesty and Integrity = 2


Q. How many police officers have been 'suspended' in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

A. 8 officers have been suspended in the last 12 months, 7 were for discreditable conduct and 1 for Confidentiality.


Q. When suspended what has been their pay in each case?

A. Suspended on Full Pay

Q. How many police officers have been dismissed in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

One officer was dismissed in this period for the breach of Discreditable Conduct however this was overturned on appeal to the Home Office to a final written warning and the officer was re-instated........

UNBELIEVABLE!.. Except in Sussex...

So Amboguy, the answer is NONE!

Oh! Is that your blinkered and arrogant Balloon bursting!

Yet somehow or other Anarchy still doesn't reign in Sussex. Amazing!

Helena Handcart wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

monkeymoo wrote:

mimseycal wrote:

monkeymoo wrote: Good. No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism. Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

You're exactly right......

Just ask the families of:

Ian Tomlinson,
Jean charles de menezes,
Mark Duggan,
Sean Rigg,
The 333 other deaths in custody since 1998, that i apologies for not writing all their names down.

Number of police disciplined over any of these?

ZERO!!!

If you want to (and if you can put down your copy of the Daily Mail) read...here is a link:

http://www.guardian.



co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03



/deaths-police-custo



dy-officers-convicte



d

Enjoy your blinkered day.x

Sorry I would post the names of all of the people who have been helped by the police but there's just too many to mention. I could mention the parents murdered schoolboy Connor Saunders who's killers were caught by Sussex Police. I could also mention PC Eric Wells who ran into a burning building and saved the people trapped inside. Of course there's also the arrest by Sussex Police of Graham Muggleton for attempting to murder his pregnant girlfriend. Let's not even mention the sea rescue carried out by a Sussex Police officer in Hastings last year of a man who jumped in and got into difficulty. Phew, I could go on but there's just way too many situations to mention of the police helping people on a daily basis (probably more than 333).

Enjoy your blinkered day X

Or that yet ANOTHER Chief Constable of Sussex is under formal investigation....

Or that Sussex Police have released this quietly under the FOI...

How many police officers have been 'disciplined' in the past 12 months
and in each case for what offence?

Authority, Respect and Courtesy = 4
Discreditable Conduct - 6
Duties and Responsibilities = 7
Confidentiality = 3
Use of Force = 3
Orders and Instructions = 5
Honesty and Integrity = 2


Q. How many police officers have been 'suspended' in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

A. 8 officers have been suspended in the last 12 months, 7 were for discreditable conduct and 1 for Confidentiality.


Q. When suspended what has been their pay in each case?

A. Suspended on Full Pay

Q. How many police officers have been dismissed in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

One officer was dismissed in this period for the breach of Discreditable Conduct however this was overturned on appeal to the Home Office to a final written warning and the officer was re-instated........

UNBELIEVABLE!.. Except in Sussex...

So Amboguy, the answer is NONE!

Oh! Is that your blinkered and arrogant Balloon bursting!

Ah Helena my little troll friend you're back. I lose track of which username you're using these days.

I'm sorry you have a problem with authority, I think a certain someone must have found themselves in a police cell a few times eh!!!

Well it's good of you to not give any answer about the people who have been helped by the police but just give your own 'statistics' instead. Do you actually know anything at all about the cases apart from what the statistics show? Do you know for a fact that the officer shouldn't have been reinstated? Nope, thought not.

Maybe you'd like to live in a place where there is no police force and see how much fun it is there. There are some more lawless places in the world where I don't think the locals would complain about Sussex Police helping them out.

AmboGuy wrote:

Helena Handcart wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

monkeymoo wrote:

mimseycal wrote:

monkeymoo wrote: Good. No room in the Police for racists or bullies......Oh hang on.....Would there be a Police force left if we got rid of them all~!!?

Such witticism. Of course there would. Most officers are decent, caring individuals with a higher than usual sense of social responsibility and personal accountability.

You're exactly right......

Just ask the families of:

Ian Tomlinson,
Jean charles de menezes,
Mark Duggan,
Sean Rigg,
The 333 other deaths in custody since 1998, that i apologies for not writing all their names down.

Number of police disciplined over any of these?

ZERO!!!

If you want to (and if you can put down your copy of the Daily Mail) read...here is a link:

http://www.guardian.




co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03




/deaths-police-custo




dy-officers-convicte




d

Enjoy your blinkered day.x

Sorry I would post the names of all of the people who have been helped by the police but there's just too many to mention. I could mention the parents murdered schoolboy Connor Saunders who's killers were caught by Sussex Police. I could also mention PC Eric Wells who ran into a burning building and saved the people trapped inside. Of course there's also the arrest by Sussex Police of Graham Muggleton for attempting to murder his pregnant girlfriend. Let's not even mention the sea rescue carried out by a Sussex Police officer in Hastings last year of a man who jumped in and got into difficulty. Phew, I could go on but there's just way too many situations to mention of the police helping people on a daily basis (probably more than 333).

Enjoy your blinkered day X

Or that yet ANOTHER Chief Constable of Sussex is under formal investigation....

Or that Sussex Police have released this quietly under the FOI...

How many police officers have been 'disciplined' in the past 12 months
and in each case for what offence?

Authority, Respect and Courtesy = 4
Discreditable Conduct - 6
Duties and Responsibilities = 7
Confidentiality = 3
Use of Force = 3
Orders and Instructions = 5
Honesty and Integrity = 2


Q. How many police officers have been 'suspended' in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

A. 8 officers have been suspended in the last 12 months, 7 were for discreditable conduct and 1 for Confidentiality.


Q. When suspended what has been their pay in each case?

A. Suspended on Full Pay

Q. How many police officers have been dismissed in the past 12 months and in each case for what offence?

One officer was dismissed in this period for the breach of Discreditable Conduct however this was overturned on appeal to the Home Office to a final written warning and the officer was re-instated........

UNBELIEVABLE!.. Except in Sussex...

So Amboguy, the answer is NONE!

Oh! Is that your blinkered and arrogant Balloon bursting!

Ah Helena my little troll friend you're back. I lose track of which username you're using these days.

I'm sorry you have a problem with authority, I think a certain someone must have found themselves in a police cell a few times eh!!!

Well it's good of you to not give any answer about the people who have been helped by the police but just give your own 'statistics' instead. Do you actually know anything at all about the cases apart from what the statistics show? Do you know for a fact that the officer shouldn't have been reinstated? Nope, thought not.

Maybe you'd like to live in a place where there is no police force and see how much fun it is there. There are some more lawless places in the world where I don't think the locals would complain about Sussex Police helping them out.

Of the 30 cases found Guilty! NOT ONE was dismissed! Y flag waving on their behalf is as ignorant as it is tiresome, and whilst there are places in the World that envy a Police Force like Sussex, not many place in the UK would. Still officially rated Poor Oh!
The detection and Solving of crime last year was less that 34 percent. So, YOU do the maths.
We know from your endlessly monotonous posts you will accuse anyone who dares to mention we have a lousy Force and then, like all braggarts, remain completely silent when the few who are allowed to resign get sentenced to prison. Quite frankly you and your PCSO Wannabee alter ego DC360 should either wake up, wise up... or just shut up.

Blimey I've often wondered how you upset an Internet troll - Helena's just shown us all!

HF 05 wrote:
There will always be those that have no respect for authority, probably due to a lack of discipline in their upbringing. They never had any boundaries when they were young and they resent it and anyone who enforces it in adulthood.

Agreed, which is why they are found to be serving Police Officers they should be dealt with twice as severely as anyone else.
Amboguy is beyond redemption (look it up AG)
Taxi Drivers are the font of all knowledge aren't they!

Hmm who else used to call all Paramedics taxi drivers???? Hello Sparky! Showing your ignorance and hatred of piblic service workers again i see. I hope you never have to call for an ambulance.

While you try trolling under various names on an almost daily basis you make yourself look ever more ridiculous and petty.

You clearly have way too much time on your hands to be posting under so many aliases (look it up Sparky) and you should really look into getting a job. Have you ever thought of becoming a special constable? Might be more productive to try and help than slag them off on a website any chance you get. I'm guessing that you havent as your very probable criminal record would bar you from joining. Anyway, I wish you all the best for getting on a bit more in life.