Brighton and Hove parking meters reject new coins

Parking meters in Brighton and Hove do not accept new 5p and 10p coins – because officials have not bothered telling the devices to take them.

Just 50 parking meters in the city accept card payments, meaning motorists have to carry up to £20 in change in their pockets to leave their vehicles in some areas.

But even after finding a mountain of silver with which to pay, the scores of council-run machines do not accept the most recently issued legal tender.

The Royal Mint introduced the new cheaper-to-produce coins at the start of the year in an attempt to save the taxpayer £8 million a year.

Although the new coins don’t look different, they are made of nickel-plated steel and are both 10% thicker – a difference of just 0.17 millimetres on the 5p.

A Treasury insider told The Argus that councils had been warned far in advance of the change and advised to re-calibrate their machines. He added: “There is really no excuse.”

Motoring lobbyist Steve Percy added: “If the council is going to charge sky-high rates then they should be reinvesting money in the service.

“They make it far too hard for drivers to pay. If you don’t have the correct change then you have no option but to put even more in and their machines don’t give out change. It’s madness.”

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Adam Chinery, the owner of Brighton Watersports in Kings Road Arches, has spoken out against the council’s parking charge policy in the past. He said: “How many other ways does the council want to turn away business in Brighton?”

Solicitor David Richards, who specialises in motoring law, said that council parking rules tended to be very technical, making them hard to argue against.

He added: “As a result there is no straightforward way in which to appeal a fine for not having the right coins.

“However, it is possible that the parking adjudicator will decide in the motorist’s favour on the grounds of fairness.”

A council spokesman said: “Our parking machines do not accept the new 5p and 10p coins.

“We took this into account when setting the new tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use the new coins.

“We have put notices on all our machines asking people not to use the new coins, and we will be replacing the redundant coin slots as and when individual machines need servicing.

“We’re also looking to make things easier for residents by introducing more cashless payment options for parking, such as by card or by phone, over the next year or so.”

Comments(16)

Pebbles says...
12:44pm Mon 3 Sep 12

"A council spokesman said: “Our parking machines do not accept the new 5p and 10p coins."

Total and complete utter arogance!

Kate234 says...
12:45pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Brighton Council and the Green party are an absolute joke. Everyone responsible for this situation should be fired. Their salaries are a disgraceful waste of council tax payers money. Decisions like this cost so much money by alienating visitors. How long can we afford to pay for these people to ruin the City? Does anyone know when the next election is?

Fight_Back says...
1:02pm Mon 3 Sep 12

"“We took this into account when setting the new tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use the new coins."

What sort of idiotic statement is that !!!!

So once again this Green council show themselves to be either completely incompetent or very arrogant. With all the money they are raking in they should introduce cashless payments within the next two months not over a year or so. A single decent project manager with the required budget would easily get it done. The quicker we get rid of the Greens the better.

shining star says...
1:04pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Most Important - Where does the unpaid change go ?

shining star says...
1:07pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Where does the change end up ?

Fight_Back says...
1:08pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Where did all the other comments go ? Surely the Argus isn't run by B&H Council now is it ?

Charismatic Andrew says...
1:12pm Mon 3 Sep 12

“We took this into account when setting the new tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use the new coins."

....... this is a typical arrogant statement that the Council seems to constantly churn out these days where they seem to be making out that they are somehow doing us all a favour!

..... I can see it now .... in a few months time when meters only accept notes......

.... A council spokesman said: “Our parking machines do not accept coins. We took this into account when setting the new minimum £5 tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use coins."

Sussex jim says...
2:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

The idiot in the Government who authorised the new coins should be fired.
All to save a mere £8million? That's nothing in state expenditure terms.

Mark63 says...
3:45pm Mon 3 Sep 12

So they took it into account and rounded everything up to the nearest £10 eh... They soon get around to EVERY machine when the prices go up every year... no problem with that eh Council? And the the 6th highest number of traffic wardens outside London (but being the 23rd largest 'city'), you should have plenty of resource to make the machines usable to the poor residents and visitors that you are conning....

chrisinbrighton says...
4:32pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Charismatic Andrew wrote:
“We took this into account when setting the new tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use the new coins."

....... this is a typical arrogant statement that the Council seems to constantly churn out these days where they seem to be making out that they are somehow doing us all a favour!

..... I can see it now .... in a few months time when meters only accept notes......

.... A council spokesman said: “Our parking machines do not accept coins. We took this into account when setting the new minimum £5 tariffs we’ve brought in, with the result that all our tariffs can now be paid without having to use coins."
Parking meters will soon need to accept credit cards if the prices rise much more

Gaz the great says...
6:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12

The council cannot afford the upgrade, which is possibly £500 per machine! As everybody knows, parking schemes never make any real profit, or so we are told!

fred clause says...
8:25pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Having spoken to the poor sods trying to fix these rubbish machines the credit card ones always break down because the computer system can only process a certain amount of sales a day,and of course my favourite is these machines dont like the salt spray from the sea as there not designed for it as usual the council went for the cheapest option when buying them not the most suitable.

Idontbelieveit1948 says...
8:51pm Mon 3 Sep 12

A council spokesman said “We’re also looking to make things easier for residents by introducing more cashless payment options for parking, such as by card or by phone, over the next year or so.”

Cashless payments - make it free then, saves all this sodding about with money and brings the visitors back to Brighton.

NickBrt says...
11:02pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Do the Greens EVER get anything right?

Dealing with idiots says...
8:15am Tue 4 Sep 12

Could the Argus please have a counter on the front page of the paper every day showing a countdown to the next local election. That way we can see how long we have to wait until the green administration is thrown out of power.

F in L says...
5:09pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dealing with idiots wrote:
Could the Argus please have a counter on the front page of the paper every day showing a countdown to the next local election. That way we can see how long we have to wait until the green administration is thrown out of power.
I fear it is too late for Brighton. We have too many of the ex students, hippies, cyclists and unemployable now. We will look back and think, bad as they are, these were the best of times.

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