Sussex Police launch specialist protest team (From The Argus)

this story has been taken virtually word for word straight from yesterdays Guardian reporting - this is appalling journalism Argus!

Far be it for me to defend the Argus (or the police) and hopefully I haven't missed something but I assume this was taken from a press release that I believe Sussex Police sent late yesterday.

There are many instances of really bad journalism on the Argus but I don't think this is one of them. They are just basing the article on the same information and quotes that every other paper and media source will get so I think your criticism is a little bit unfair.

More importantly, read the article on The Guardian yesterday to see the real story about PLO's. They're just police officers in a different coloured top who are out there to get as much information and details about protesters as they can. Steer clear.

gaz scott wrote:
Far be it for me to defend the Argus (or the police) and hopefully I haven't missed something but I assume this was taken from a press release that I believe Sussex Police sent late yesterday.

There are many instances of really bad journalism on the Argus but I don't think this is one of them. They are just basing the article on the same information and quotes that every other paper and media source will get so I think your criticism is a little bit unfair.

not really - the Argus is in Brighton. Where is the local knowledge the reporter should be bringing to the story?
Where has the reporter attempted to make the story their own?

What might this mean to local groups? How has it affected them so far?

Its lazy journalism at its worst

graham_Seagull wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
Far be it for me to defend the Argus (or the police) and hopefully I haven't missed something but I assume this was taken from a press release that I believe Sussex Police sent late yesterday.

There are many instances of really bad journalism on the Argus but I don't think this is one of them. They are just basing the article on the same information and quotes that every other paper and media source will get so I think your criticism is a little bit unfair.

not really - the Argus is in Brighton. Where is the local knowledge the reporter should be bringing to the story?
Where has the reporter attempted to make the story their own?

What might this mean to local groups? How has it affected them so far?

Its lazy journalism at its worst

oh, and the press release wasnt yesterday - it was on Monday!!!!

Also the BBC ran a report on it yesterday.

graham_Seagull wrote:

graham_Seagull wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
Far be it for me to defend the Argus (or the police) and hopefully I haven't missed something but I assume this was taken from a press release that I believe Sussex Police sent late yesterday.

There are many instances of really bad journalism on the Argus but I don't think this is one of them. They are just basing the article on the same information and quotes that every other paper and media source will get so I think your criticism is a little bit unfair.

not really - the Argus is in Brighton. Where is the local knowledge the reporter should be bringing to the story?
Where has the reporter attempted to make the story their own?

What might this mean to local groups? How has it affected them so far?

Its lazy journalism at its worst

oh, and the press release wasnt yesterday - it was on Monday!!!!

Also the BBC ran a report on it yesterday.

I could not agree with you more.

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/uk/2012/sep/04
/sussex-police-criti
cised-harassment-pro
tester-liaison

The Guardian article link above shows proof of how this is just more lies from the Police and the Argus. It is another excuse to illegally hassle innocent people.

whereisthe...? wrote:
http://www.guardian.

co.uk/uk/2012/sep/04

/sussex-police-criti

cised-harassment-pro

tester-liaison

The Guardian article link above shows proof of how this is just more lies from the Police and the Argus. It is another excuse to illegally hassle innocent people.

But it is easier than solving real crime...

They would be better off cracking a few heads on the days in question. Actions speak louder than words.

whereisthe...? wrote:
http://www.guardian.

co.uk/uk/2012/sep/04

/sussex-police-criti

cised-harassment-pro

tester-liaison

The Guardian article link above shows proof of how this is just more lies from the Police and the Argus. It is another excuse to illegally hassle innocent people.

Ahhh poor diddums are the nasty little Policemen hassling you? Oh you poor little lamb did the nasty men scare you?

Seriously though - 'illegally hassle' - you are having a laugh right? Grow up mate, maybe you should thing about all the local residents who feel that they get 'illegally hassled' by some of the more thuggish 'protesters' out there.

graham_Seagull wrote:

gaz scott wrote:
Far be it for me to defend the Argus (or the police) and hopefully I haven't missed something but I assume this was taken from a press release that I believe Sussex Police sent late yesterday.

There are many instances of really bad journalism on the Argus but I don't think this is one of them. They are just basing the article on the same information and quotes that every other paper and media source will get so I think your criticism is a little bit unfair.

not really - the Argus is in Brighton. Where is the local knowledge the reporter should be bringing to the story?
Where has the reporter attempted to make the story their own?

What might this mean to local groups? How has it affected them so far?

Its lazy journalism at its worst

Well I agree with you in part there now you've explained exactly what you mean. But I don't think the Argus are that much worse than anyone else in that respect. As I say I think they have committed far worse crimes against journalism in the past. My understanding is that this comes from http://www.sussex.po
lice.uk/news-and-eve
nts/news/2012/09/04/
sussex-police-introd
uces-dedicated-prote
st-liaison-team/ which was only released yesterday (AFAIK although I was waiting for it to appear).

I know the Guardian ran an article on the shocking abuses of the Police Liason earlier on - which hopefully will be explored here since there are some very serious issues - but that's not the same as this article which although was issued by the police as response to that Guardian article (unless the timing is coincidental which seems unlikely) does not refer to it.

But yes, you're right, the Argus could have made a little bit more effort so I do sort of agree with you after all.

really upsetting with the cuts sussex police have had to make, these officers would be better placed patrolling brighton & hove and attending protest on overtime when needed!!!

whereisthe...? wrote:
http://www.guardian.

co.uk/uk/2012/sep/04

/sussex-police-criti

cised-harassment-pro

tester-liaison

The Guardian article link above shows proof of how this is just more lies from the Police and the Argus. It is another excuse to illegally hassle innocent people.

Oh well, if it's in the Grauniad it must be right. After all, the paragon of journalism never gets anything wrong, does it?

How do you frighten a masked smashedo protestor ?
....- - get an attractive female police liaison to speak with them. !!

(see pictire in Argus 5th June 2012).

The creation of this 'team' is a result of the police constantly being caught on camera breaking Human rights law. they are trying to find ways to seem more 'friendly', whilst still stifling protest. they have made no apologies for past wrongs, and have not been held to account, or compensated people for past wrongs. they just pop a new trick out a box, with no sign of remorse and expect us to believe they are nice now.
ACAB. see my report from earlier this year here: http://fromoutsideth
ewhale.wordpress.com
/2012/07/03/spin-psy
chology-and-sussex-p
olice/

The creation of this 'team' is a result of the police constantly being caught on camera breaking Human rights law. they are trying to find ways to seem more 'friendly', whilst still stifling protest. they have made no apologies for past wrongs, and have not been held to account, or compensated people for past wrongs. they just pop a new trick out a box, with no sign of remorse and expect us to believe they are nice now.
ACAB. see my report from earlier this year here: http://fromoutsideth
ewhale.wordpress.com
/2012/07/03/spin-psy
chology-and-sussex-p
olice/

hursthill wrote:
How do you frighten a masked smashedo protestor ?
....- - get an attractive female police liaison to speak with them. !!

(see pictire in Argus 5th June 2012).

Ha ha just seen that - I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!

These people need to grow up and stop whinging. At the end of the day do the protesters really think that the police wouldn't be interested in who they might be? Too many protests in Brighton turn violent due to the thuggish behaviour of many of the people who turn up with their faces covered and weapons in their pockets. Only this week 2 SmashEDO protesters have been convicted due to their actions at the last protest they attended.
They want to have their cake and eat it. They want to be allowed to protest but don't want to police to be there when they do!!

The SusPolPLO Twitter seemed very keen to talk about this issue and seemed to welcome the fact that unlike the Guardian the Argus allowed comments on this issue to, as they saw it, try to take it further. I think the fact that they haven't posted on here after some busy PR tweeting shows they want to avoid engaging with the people (mostly stupid) who think they are supporting the police by slagging off protesters. And as well as finding it hilarious I can't say I blame the PLO at all for that.

AmboGuy wrote:

hursthill wrote:
How do you frighten a masked smashedo protestor ?
....- - get an attractive female police liaison to speak with them. !!

(see pictire in Argus 5th June 2012).

Ha ha just seen that - I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!

These people need to grow up and stop whinging. At the end of the day do the protesters really think that the police wouldn't be interested in who they might be? Too many protests in Brighton turn violent due to the thuggish behaviour of many of the people who turn up with their faces covered and weapons in their pockets. Only this week 2 SmashEDO protesters have been convicted due to their actions at the last protest they attended.
They want to have their cake and eat it. They want to be allowed to protest but don't want to police to be there when they do!!

So how many convictions or even court cases have there been for protesters with "weapons in their pockets"? As far as I know carrying a weapon is illegal and if anyone was carrying weapons the police would arrest and charge them. They haven't so how can you know people are carrying weapons? Maybe you're just assuming they are and trying to pass it off as a fact.

BTW DoorBomb

AmboGuy wrote:

hursthill wrote:
How do you frighten a masked smashedo protestor ?
....- - get an attractive female police liaison to speak with them. !!

(see pictire in Argus 5th June 2012).

Ha ha just seen that - I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!

These people need to grow up and stop whinging. At the end of the day do the protesters really think that the police wouldn't be interested in who they might be? Too many protests in Brighton turn violent due to the thuggish behaviour of many of the people who turn up with their faces covered and weapons in their pockets. Only this week 2 SmashEDO protesters have been convicted due to their actions at the last protest they attended.
They want to have their cake and eat it. They want to be allowed to protest but don't want to police to be there when they do!!

" I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!"

Bit of a give away!

gaz scott wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

hursthill wrote:
How do you frighten a masked smashedo protestor ?
....- - get an attractive female police liaison to speak with them. !!

(see pictire in Argus 5th June 2012).

Ha ha just seen that - I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!

These people need to grow up and stop whinging. At the end of the day do the protesters really think that the police wouldn't be interested in who they might be? Too many protests in Brighton turn violent due to the thuggish behaviour of many of the people who turn up with their faces covered and weapons in their pockets. Only this week 2 SmashEDO protesters have been convicted due to their actions at the last protest they attended.
They want to have their cake and eat it. They want to be allowed to protest but don't want to police to be there when they do!!

" I wouldn't mind her 'harassing' me!!!"

Bit of a give away!

Oh lighten up Gaz you miserable self important waster.

Is this the new easy going AmboGuy or is an insult just an easy way out? Insults don't work on me but feel free to continue if you think it's worthwhile.

So Ambo is that a weapon in your pocket or are you just pleased to see the WPC/PC?

See, I can do light.