Sussex Police hunt animal killer

Pigeons are among the birds targeted by gunmen Pigeons are among the birds targeted by gunmen

Police are hunting a gunman they believe is responsible for a string of animal shootings.

The latest animal to be killed was a magpie. Other birds, including jackdaws and pigeons, have also been shot this week.

Sussex Police and animal charities have received several reports of birds being shot in the past week in the area of the scenic Cuckoo trail, between Hailsham and Heathfield.

Police believe the same gunman may have been behind a spate of cat shootings in the area last year.

PCSO Hannah Parks said: “The most recent killing was on Monday when a magpie was shot.

“A resident rang us having found other injured birds.

PCSO Hannah Parks

These birds are protected. Even if they are causing a nuisance, harming them is not acceptable. I believe someone is doing this for fun

“We know the magpie was shot, by a BB gun or air rifle. Last year we had five or six cat shootings. I think it is likely the same person is responsible for the latest shootings.

“These birds are protected. Even if they are causing a nuisance, harming them is not acceptable. “I believe someone is doing this for fun.

Horrendous injuries

“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.” Trevor Weeks of East Sussex Wildlife and Animal Rescue (WRAS) examined the magpie and said he was convinced it had been killed by a shot from a BB gun or air rifle.

Having seen the horrendous injuries caused to animals, Mr Weeks called for BB and air guns to be restricted to dedicated clubs.

He said: “Shooting birds is not normally a quick death.

“Most of the casualties that are rescued are alive but badly injured and in some cases the injuries are horrific.

“All guns should be limited to licensed gun clubs.

“What concerns me is that the guns involved don’t kill immediately.

“They cause animals to die slow, painful deaths.”

Anyone with any information about the shootings is urged to calls Sussex Police on 101 or Crimestoppers on 0500 555111.

Comments(40)

inadaptado says...
1:43pm Fri 7 Sep 12

“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.”

Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.

Pitviper says...
1:50pm Fri 7 Sep 12

inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.” Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
6 am is morning not night and the birds have been singing the dawn chorus for longer than you've been alive so live with it or get yourself some ear plugs and befoe you say "but I won't hear my alarm" there are alarms that will wake you by vibrating the bed rather than making a noise!

Crystal Ball says...
2:00pm Fri 7 Sep 12

There is no justifiable excuse whatsoever for harming animals of any kind. Period.

lordenglandofsussex says...
2:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.

spa301 says...
2:24pm Fri 7 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies. Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
idiot...

Lady Smith says...
2:39pm Fri 7 Sep 12

inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.”

Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
If you don't like seagulls, then don't live near the sea - simples! And they were here well before you...

graham_Seagull says...
2:40pm Fri 7 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
....and hopefully pontificating fake Lord's are next!

Lady Smith says...
2:42pm Fri 7 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
Apart from your highly spurious logic, read the piece again - I think you'll find it's not 'just' pigeons and magpies. And you'll also find there's not much difference between the mendacious mindset of someone who will do this to animals, and someone who will do it to humans...

Goldenwight says...
3:24pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Whilst I certainly don't condone this behaviour, I do wonder what the reaction (both from the public and the professionals) would have been had the perpetrator(s) limited their actions to feral pigeons- I don't believe they are a protected species, are they? Although i do accept that they are sometimes kept as pets.

elephantsandowls says...
3:36pm Fri 7 Sep 12

@lordenglandofsussex
:

You're not bothered that this person is practicing his / her shooting skills on animals, then?

What if it gets boring after a while and he / she starts shooting children?

leobrighton says...
4:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
You have, it seems

inadaptado says...
4:42pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Pitviper wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.” Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
6 am is morning not night and the birds have been singing the dawn chorus for longer than you've been alive so live with it or get yourself some ear plugs and befoe you say "but I won't hear my alarm" there are alarms that will wake you by vibrating the bed rather than making a noise!
Get a grip, mate, I was being sardonic.

inadaptado says...
4:44pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Lady Smith wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.”

Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
If you don't like seagulls, then don't live near the sea - simples! And they were here well before you...
You too, missus.

lordenglandofsussex says...
4:59pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Obviously I do not condone the shooting of wild animals for leisure purposes. Of course the left-wingers who constantly troll the Argus website spew out their daily diatribe on here.

Put it this way:

1980:

"Excuse me Officer, but there is someone going about shooting wild birds on the housing estate where I live."

"Sir, our job is not to investigate cruelty to animals as we simply do not have the resources nor the time as we are pursuing serious crime. Please contact the RSPCA as they can investigate and where possible prosecute those who are responsible."

2012:

"Excuse me Officer, but there is someone going about shooting wild birds on the housing estate where I live."

"Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will strain every sinew, allocate every constable and alert our armed unit to track down and bring this perpetrator to justice."

"By the way Officer, I have just murdered my wife in cold blood."

"Oh dear, I'm so sorry to hear that. It must have been extremely traumatic for you to have to go through such an awful event. Would you like to speak to one of our specially trained therapists to help you through this difficult time?"

"No thanks, I really would like to just go away and live on an Island somewhere to give me time to get over it."

"Oh, absolutely, please do and if you change your mind, just give us a call and we'll have you picked up."

"That will be lovely. Goodbye?"

"Goodbye, Sir."

Roundbill says...
5:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Shouldn't the picture caption say "Some pigeons, yesterday"?

elephantsandowls says...
6:01pm Fri 7 Sep 12

@leos, OH, so YOU are the moron who's prankcalling the police about murders and such?
Next time don't hang up before giving your details, love, and you'll receive a present!

luckystrike says...
6:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

elephantsandowls wrote:
@leos, OH, so YOU are the moron who's prankcalling the police about murders and such?
Next time don't hang up before giving your details, love, and you'll receive a present!
I remember shooting sparrows about 40 years ago. Should I hand myself in?

hammerfan says...
6:28pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Pigeons and Seagulls are vermin!
When did you last see a Robin, Blackbird or Thrush? The Seagulls are driving them away. There are Seagulls in Britain which are never likely to see the sea. They are taking over everywhere!
Lets see the Sparrows and Blue tits back!

luckystrike says...
6:56pm Fri 7 Sep 12

hammerfan wrote:
Pigeons and Seagulls are vermin!
When did you last see a Robin, Blackbird or Thrush? The Seagulls are driving them away. There are Seagulls in Britain which are never likely to see the sea. They are taking over everywhere!
Lets see the Sparrows and Blue tits back!
There's quite a few tits on here dressed up as animal lovers.

John Steed says...
7:35pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Lady Smith wrote:
inadaptado wrote: “It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.” Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
If you don't like seagulls, then don't live near the sea - simples! And they were here well before you...
silly woman i was born and raised in surrey miles from the sea, hundreds of herring gulls around. they have wings, lets them get about a bit more than you give the vermin credit for

Juleyanne says...
7:41pm Fri 7 Sep 12

If anyone out there actually saw the real life appalling suffering resulting from some twisted lifeform's actions, it would most likely make them realise this ar...... needs to be caught before this person feels casually inclined once again to hurt, maime or kill animals in Sussex. Wildlife Rescue see and deal with this on the frontline daily and although sadly they see it all too often I can assure you it never ceases to shock, anger and sadden them
that there are some sick cruel beings amongst us that get their kicks from
seeing a living creature suffer. I totally agree with Trevor Weeks that BB guns/pellet guns should only be used in tightly controlled licenced clubs and should be stopped from getting into the hands of barbaric inadequate sickos.

Valerie Paynter says...
7:49pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Please someone of our MP's raise a private members bill to outlaw air rifles and BB Guns. They have no use that is not linked to death, injury, pain.

Juleyanne says...
7:50pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Steed clearly reveals his ignorance so I'll bring you up to date re Herring Gulls.
They are on the red endangered list which means to those with little understanding
of reality, they are not vermin! check your facts next time as you look rather stupid!

hubby says...
9:48pm Fri 7 Sep 12

I like tits!!!!

By the way.When the landed gentry and the Royal family shoot some really nice animals do they not get arrested?
Seagull or Stag?
I know what I'd rather see protected.

luckystrike says...
10:24pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Valerie Paynter wrote:
Please someone of our MP's raise a private members bill to outlaw air rifles and BB Guns. They have no use that is not linked to death, injury, pain.
From my cold dead hands.

luckystrike says...
10:25pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Juleyanne wrote:
Steed clearly reveals his ignorance so I'll bring you up to date re Herring Gulls.
They are on the red endangered list which means to those with little understanding
of reality, they are not vermin! check your facts next time as you look rather stupid!
They are when they crap all over my car.

KarenT says...
11:33pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Boy there's a lot of nasty, selfish people commenting on this story, I find it so depressing. The general attitude of some people that any animal that causes some sort of obstruction or inconvenience to their lives, whether it be the "noise" of seagulls or the excrement of pigeons, is labelled "vermin" and deserves to be killed. What's going on here is someone, or maybe even several people, are going around killing animals indiscriminately, with no conscience or respect for life, and no regard for anything but themselves. Pure mindless malevolence. The sort of malevolence that only humans are capable of, as I can assure you that no pigeon craps on your car to **** you off. The arrogance of humans never ceases to amaze me - if it gets in your way, just "exterminate it". Maybe you'd be happier living in some sterile world where there is nothing but other moaning idiots like yourselves. There always seems to be such a high propensity of utter morons commenting on news stories with the Argus - too many idle wasters with far too much time on their hands. Sat in their bedsits, no one to talk to, the internet is their only friend! Saddos.

F in L says...
1:29am Sat 8 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
No just in this County

Juleyanne says...
8:10am Sat 8 Sep 12

Well said KarenT and Valerie Paynter is spot on! Hopefully MP's are listening and take this forward as soon as possible to make this country and county a safer place for both people and animals!
It is insanity to continue to allow unbalanced dangerous 'gungho' idiots free reign to unleash guns 'of any sort' within our communities. This is long overdue for implementing rigid regulation!

Angmar says...
11:33am Sat 8 Sep 12

Magpies are on general licence as a pest species. Pigeons are also on licence as are Monk Parakeets and Ringneck parakeets which means they may be shot.
All calls for banning of air rifles on here are displaying ignorance and would remove a legitimate pest control device.
One of the reasons that songbirds have reduced in number is the increase in the number of magpies. I shoot pest species over my land when I have tried other means to disuade them as legally I am allowed to do.
Before calling for changes in the law some of you on here ought to look at the existing law and become familiar with it. Also since I have shot these pest species I can honestly say that I have not massacred any families or shot anything that was not legal to shoot so that emotionally driven claptrap argument is also shot down in flames. Oh dear I used the word shoot again I must be obsessed.

mr punch says...
4:57pm Sat 8 Sep 12

In other news a 61 year old woman from Sompting executed a rat with a big nasty trap in her kitchen cupboard... Bring back the noose!

getThisCoalitionOut says...
5:03pm Sat 8 Sep 12

inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.”

Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
Well get some ear plugs then you **** - what do you think they are for stupid? How you can even think shooting birds - that have been around for longer than humans - is right, I do not know. Some people really do not deserve the right to breathe the same air as humans IMO. I hope the person that is doing this is found very quickly and has the same done to them as what they are doing is despicable.

getThisCoalitionOut says...
5:05pm Sat 8 Sep 12

lordenglandofsussex wrote:
People are being attacked and murdered, children are being abused and other serious crimes are happening on a daily basis by lunatics up and down the country and the Police waste their time informing the media of someone going around with an air gun shooting pigeons and magpies.

Have the Police completely lost the plot in this country? I think so.
Well you **** who knows nothing - most animal abusers start with animals and then they move onto humans - so catch them first and preferably execute them - then you won't have so much of the other crimes. Learn first will you before making lunatic comments.

Nickpan says...
5:48pm Sat 8 Sep 12

it's a big leap from shooting a magpie to shooting humans.
If someone has broken the law, they need to be apprehended and dragged through the legal system. I'm not sure where "ban all airguns" come into it.

hubby says...
11:52pm Sat 8 Sep 12

I love all animals...even most humans....I would pretty much go out of my way not to kill anything or anybody,unless they were trying to kill me.

Mel@cityclean says...
4:40pm Sun 9 Sep 12

KarenT wrote:
Boy there's a lot of nasty, selfish people commenting on this story, I find it so depressing. The general attitude of some people that any animal that causes some sort of obstruction or inconvenience to their lives, whether it be the "noise" of seagulls or the excrement of pigeons, is labelled "vermin" and deserves to be killed. What's going on here is someone, or maybe even several people, are going around killing animals indiscriminately, with no conscience or respect for life, and no regard for anything but themselves. Pure mindless malevolence. The sort of malevolence that only humans are capable of, as I can assure you that no pigeon craps on your car to **** you off. The arrogance of humans never ceases to amaze me - if it gets in your way, just "exterminate it". Maybe you'd be happier living in some sterile world where there is nothing but other moaning idiots like yourselves. There always seems to be such a high propensity of utter morons commenting on news stories with the Argus - too many idle wasters with far too much time on their hands. Sat in their bedsits, no one to talk to, the internet is their only friend! Saddos.
well written karen T.

nosolution says...
5:45pm Sun 9 Sep 12

I think that keeping wild animals in captivity for any time longer than overnight is the most cruelest of practices..

Roundbill says...
8:55pm Sun 9 Sep 12

hubby wrote:
I love all animals...even most humans....I would pretty much go out of my way not to kill anything or anybody,unless they were trying to kill me.
That has to be the weirdest comment I've ever read on here. I salute you, nut-job!

KarenT says...
11:18pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Roundbill wrote:
hubby wrote:
I love all animals...even most humans....I would pretty much go out of my way not to kill anything or anybody,unless they were trying to kill me.
That has to be the weirdest comment I've ever read on here. I salute you, nut-job!
What is "weird" about that comment? It's obvious what he is trying to say, and if there were more people around like "hubby" the world would be a better place. But sadly there's probably a lot more people around like you than him... a nasty **** that thinks it's OK to call someone with a kind thought, a "nut-job". Why don't you keep your nastiness to yourself - it ain't funny or witty, and no one is interested.

F in L says...
9:23am Mon 10 Sep 12

Lady Smith wrote:
inadaptado wrote:
“It is awful that anyone would want to harm animals.”

Yes, it is, but after being woken up at 6am every night for a week by one of these birds the rational part of me that acknowledges that harming animals is awful is slowly being overriden by the irrational part of me that just wants to have a complete night of sleep for once.
If you don't like seagulls, then don't live near the sea - simples! And they were here well before you...
So were Wolves but we got rid of them didn't we?

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