60-year-old in serious condition following Brighton seafront stabbing (From The Argus)
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60-year-old in serious condition following Brighton seafront stabbing
10:54am Saturday 8th September 2012 in News By Ben James
A 60-year-old man has suffered serious injuries after being stabbed on Brighton seafront in the early hours of this morning (September 8).
Police arrested a 30-year-old shortly after the incident and he remains in custody.
Officers were called to Madeira Drive just after 2.30am following a report that a local man had been stabbed.
After arriving at the scene, a suspect was quickly located and arrested and the victim was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital.
He remains in a serious condition.
Chief Inspector Paul Betts, from Brighton and Hove's Command Team, said: "It is too early to speculate on a motive at this time, but we have a team of officers who are looking at all possible lines of enquiry.
"We believe that there were a number of other people in the area at the time of the attack who may have seen what happened and we would urge them to come forward and speak to police as soon as possible.
“It is vital that we get as many witnesses as possible in order that we can establish exactly what happened and the circumstances leading up to this horrific attack.
"We would ask the public for their patience and co-operation whilst investigations continue. We are aware of the Speedway event that is taking place today and would like to reassure those that are attending that it will not be disrupted as the scene has been re-opened to the public."
The 30-year-old is due to be interviewed later today.
Comments(30)
Old Ladys Gin
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12:12pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Plus, that if you rely on legal aid you are on a hiding to nothing.
So much so in fact that he no longer takes on criminal cases, the system being so geared in favour of the prosecution.
Fine and dandy and go ahead with a 'bang 'em up' mentality but let everyone have equal opportunity to appeal, which is not the case at the moment.
Billyboyarnold
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12:16pm Sat 8 Sep 12
luckystrike wrote:I agree with every word. Why shouldn't you be safe to have a stroll along the seafront at 2.30am Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull
What can you say. B&H has become a nasty cesspit of crime on a daily basis.
Britain needs its police to patrol on foot night and day in a grid network like it used to. Sentences need to be trebled at least for serious offences and repeat offenders. In the case of murder, life should mean LIFE.
sussexram40
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2:36pm Sat 8 Sep 12
ShorehamBeachcomber
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2:55pm Sat 8 Sep 12
getThisCoalitionOut
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4:58pm Sat 8 Sep 12
clubrob6
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5:15pm Sat 8 Sep 12
sussexram40 wrote:The point is through the day police are visibly around but at nightfall except high trouble areas like west st you will be lucky to see police in a car.I live right opposite hove lawns when im out at night if more than 2 people approach me ill cross the road,ive been attacked twice in that area so take no chances.Although police patrol hove seafront in a car i think you need to have someone on foot as you cant hear whats going on in a car.Brighton had started to become safer but i suppose now with all the cuts these regular events are going to be more common.
I say people need to exercise some common sense. Walking about in the middle of the night isn't safe. Chances of being attacked when walking round Brighton at 2 in the afternoon must be very very low. Chances of being attacked when walking round Brighton at 2 in the morning must be fairly high. At the latter time the majority of people out and about are no gooders and drunks. Common sense really. It doesn't make it right but it's always been the case that places are more danegerous late at night than in daytime.
Dirk Von Roden
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6:35pm Sat 8 Sep 12
D360
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7:12pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Old Ladys Gin wrote:My dear lady, if you truly believe this then may I respectfully suggest that you spend some time in the public gallery in either a Magistrates Court or a Crown Court. The justice system is weighted very heavily in the favour of the defence; the prosecution must prove the guilt of the accused, the defence have only to introduce some doubt. The underlying principal is that it is better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent person is convicted. I stress this is not my view but is held by most lawyers and goes some way to explain why there are far more stories of the CPS/Courts/Police not securing conviction of people that get charged than there are of innocent people being acquitted
A barrister aquaintance estimated that around 40 percent of those found guilty were most probably innocent.
Plus, that if you rely on legal aid you are on a hiding to nothing.
So much so in fact that he no longer takes on criminal cases, the system being so geared in favour of the prosecution.
Fine and dandy and go ahead with a 'bang 'em up' mentality but let everyone have equal opportunity to appeal, which is not the case at the moment.
hubby
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11:42pm Sat 8 Sep 12
F in L
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12:30am Sun 9 Sep 12
leobrighton
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1:57am Sun 9 Sep 12
gnarlychaos
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2:35am Sun 9 Sep 12
leobrighton wrote:Them bushes aint no nice place at any time, the other day whilst walking my dog at 3 in afternoon i had to pass by two 60yr olds doin it doggy style in hard hats right in the middle of the footpath, in the case of this 60yr old he obviously bit off more than he could chew.
So it was a 60 year old in the bushes at 2.30 am then. Don't beat around the bush Argus.
Valerie Paynter
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11:10am Sun 9 Sep 12
And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'?
I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!
chrisinbrighton
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2:11pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Valerie Paynter wrote:Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month !
Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation?
And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'?
I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!
I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
Valerie Paynter
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4:18pm Sun 9 Sep 12
chrisinbrighton wrote:If you find the hetero sex on the beach offensive (quite rightly so) then presumably you also find the sexfest side of PRIDE equally offensive. If not, why not?
Valerie Paynter wrote: Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation? And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'? I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month ! I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
The Baron Pepperpot
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6:45pm Sun 9 Sep 12
We have no more details.
Yet it would appear that some on this thread have decided that the man was homosexual, having casual sex (possibly doggy style) in the bushes, and possibly attacked the other guy who used a readily available knife in self defence.......
Know I understand why the Argus message boards are considered a joke by politicians and citizens alike.
The Baron Pepperpot
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6:48pm Sun 9 Sep 12
The Baron Pepperpot wrote:'Know' should read 'Now'. And I forgot to wish the man a healthy recovery.
A 60 year old man has been stabbed on the seafront. We know of no motive, we know not what he was doing and who with, if anyone.
We have no more details.
Yet it would appear that some on this thread have decided that the man was homosexual, having casual sex (possibly doggy style) in the bushes, and possibly attacked the other guy who used a readily available knife in self defence.......
Know I understand why the Argus message boards are considered a joke by politicians and citizens alike.
hubby
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8:47pm Sun 9 Sep 12
chrisinbrighton wrote:If only I could "GO HOME"
Valerie Paynter wrote:Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month !
Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation?
And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'?
I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!
I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
I was born in Brighton in 1960.Lived in Whitehawk for 25 years,then Saltdean for 17 years before I realised what a dangerously perverted place Brighton is in so many ways.I took my wife and family and scarpered to Spain where family values still mean something and people still look after each other even when times are tough.
Police still have a very visible prescence and some power.
I haven't been back to Brighton for ten years,and have no plans to do so any time soon.
I loved Brighton,but I could see how the wind was blowing and I ran.More for the sake of my kids than my sake.I think I got it right.
chrisinbrighton
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9:30pm Sun 9 Sep 12
hubby wrote:At least you admitted to having lived in Whitehawk someone has too
chrisinbrighton wrote:If only I could "GO HOME"
Valerie Paynter wrote:Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month !
Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation?
And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'?
I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!
I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
I was born in Brighton in 1960.Lived in Whitehawk for 25 years,then Saltdean for 17 years before I realised what a dangerously perverted place Brighton is in so many ways.I took my wife and family and scarpered to Spain where family values still mean something and people still look after each other even when times are tough.
Police still have a very visible prescence and some power.
I haven't been back to Brighton for ten years,and have no plans to do so any time soon.
I loved Brighton,but I could see how the wind was blowing and I ran.More for the sake of my kids than my sake.I think I got it right.
Roundbill
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10:12pm Sun 9 Sep 12
High Wire
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11:22pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Valerie Paynter wrote:"Sexfest"??? Can we go to Pride together next year? PLEASE Valerie?? I spent the whole day and evening out and about - and not even a chipolata! Can you at least just tell me where to look...
chrisinbrighton wrote:If you find the hetero sex on the beach offensive (quite rightly so) then presumably you also find the sexfest side of PRIDE equally offensive. If not, why not?
Valerie Paynter wrote: Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation? And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'? I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month ! I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
Pitviper
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9:49am Mon 10 Sep 12
D360 wrote:and if it's the Brighton Magistrates they're sure to let them off!!
Old Ladys Gin wrote: A barrister aquaintance estimated that around 40 percent of those found guilty were most probably innocent. Plus, that if you rely on legal aid you are on a hiding to nothing. So much so in fact that he no longer takes on criminal cases, the system being so geared in favour of the prosecution. Fine and dandy and go ahead with a 'bang 'em up' mentality but let everyone have equal opportunity to appeal, which is not the case at the moment.My dear lady, if you truly believe this then may I respectfully suggest that you spend some time in the public gallery in either a Magistrates Court or a Crown Court. The justice system is weighted very heavily in the favour of the defence; the prosecution must prove the guilt of the accused, the defence have only to introduce some doubt. The underlying principal is that it is better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent person is convicted. I stress this is not my view but is held by most lawyers and goes some way to explain why there are far more stories of the CPS/Courts/Police not securing conviction of people that get charged than there are of innocent people being acquitted
Lewesroadresident
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10:04am Mon 10 Sep 12
luckystrike wrote:What a load of twaddle, from you and other posters. One person has been stabbed on a Saturday night when thousands of visitors were in town for the speedtrials/food fesitval/biker meet. Hardly a crimewave is it?
What can you say. B&H has become a nasty cesspit of crime on a daily basis. Britain needs its police to patrol on foot night and day in a grid network like it used to. Sentences need to be trebled at least for serious offences and repeat offenders. In the case of murder, life should mean LIFE.
Although there is a debate about the best way to record crime statistics, there has been a downward trend for decades now- the streets have never been safer. What has changed is the way crime is reported, combined with faster reporting due to technology.
Terry K
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10:50am Mon 10 Sep 12
Beach rapes, stabbings, random violence, and all you see is the police standing around with arms folded, what's going on?.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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10:52am Mon 10 Sep 12
Lewesroadresident wrote:What a load of twaddle, from you and other posters.
luckystrike wrote:What a load of twaddle, from you and other posters. One person has been stabbed on a Saturday night when thousands of visitors were in town for the speedtrials/food fesitval/biker meet. Hardly a crimewave is it?
What can you say. B&H has become a nasty cesspit of crime on a daily basis. Britain needs its police to patrol on foot night and day in a grid network like it used to. Sentences need to be trebled at least for serious offences and repeat offenders. In the case of murder, life should mean LIFE.
Although there is a debate about the best way to record crime statistics, there has been a downward trend for decades now- the streets have never been safer. What has changed is the way crime is reported, combined with faster reporting due to technology.
Where are the statistics to support your attempt at making a point and how do they provide context to this story?
Old Ladys Gin
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3:59pm Mon 10 Sep 12
D360 wrote:It was the opinion of a barrister who knows a lot more than me about these things.
Old Ladys Gin wrote:My dear lady, if you truly believe this then may I respectfully suggest that you spend some time in the public gallery in either a Magistrates Court or a Crown Court. The justice system is weighted very heavily in the favour of the defence; the prosecution must prove the guilt of the accused, the defence have only to introduce some doubt. The underlying principal is that it is better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent person is convicted. I stress this is not my view but is held by most lawyers and goes some way to explain why there are far more stories of the CPS/Courts/Police not securing conviction of people that get charged than there are of innocent people being acquitted
A barrister aquaintance estimated that around 40 percent of those found guilty were most probably innocent.
Plus, that if you rely on legal aid you are on a hiding to nothing.
So much so in fact that he no longer takes on criminal cases, the system being so geared in favour of the prosecution.
Fine and dandy and go ahead with a 'bang 'em up' mentality but let everyone have equal opportunity to appeal, which is not the case at the moment.
Old Ladys Gin
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4:04pm Mon 10 Sep 12
hubby wrote:Yet Spain has higher crime rates in almost every sense the the UK.
chrisinbrighton wrote:If only I could "GO HOME"
Valerie Paynter wrote:Don't forget the 2 hetrosexuals having sex on the beach at 9am reported in the Argus last month !
Why do wild and violent people gravitate to Brighton - that is the question. Why has it always been a town with a dodgy reputation?
And does it have to remain that way? What is BHCC doing to change the trajectory? To CREATE a trajectory that changes Brighton as this sleaze, sex, crime, drugs and alcohol destination visitor 'attraction'?
I could be done. Starting with zero tolerance of PRIDE as a vulgar meatmarket that sees it followed by letters and comments in the Argus about walking past people openly having sex in the bushes and urinating in the parks: STILL!
I as a homosexual find it equally as offensive.If one doesn't like Brighton, GO HOME !
I was born in Brighton in 1960.Lived in Whitehawk for 25 years,then Saltdean for 17 years before I realised what a dangerously perverted place Brighton is in so many ways.I took my wife and family and scarpered to Spain where family values still mean something and people still look after each other even when times are tough.
Police still have a very visible prescence and some power.
I haven't been back to Brighton for ten years,and have no plans to do so any time soon.
I loved Brighton,but I could see how the wind was blowing and I ran.More for the sake of my kids than my sake.I think I got it right.
More murders, certainly more thefts/robberies/mug
gings.
Bank robbery is a national pastime and the country has the highest rate of hard drug use by teenagers of any EU state.
Road deaths are double the UK average and coupled with employment approaching 15 percent crime is on the up.
Police will not charge someone if the 'theft' is worth less than 400 euro and in some towns drug dealers and muggers have pretty much a free run of the streets.
Above based on four decades of intimate knowledge of the country.
Old Ladys Gin
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4:17pm Mon 10 Sep 12
Lewesroadresident wrote:Couldn't agree more and perhaps a lot of respondents have never seen the film or read the book 'Brighton Rock'.
luckystrike wrote:What a load of twaddle, from you and other posters. One person has been stabbed on a Saturday night when thousands of visitors were in town for the speedtrials/food fesitval/biker meet. Hardly a crimewave is it?
What can you say. B&H has become a nasty cesspit of crime on a daily basis. Britain needs its police to patrol on foot night and day in a grid network like it used to. Sentences need to be trebled at least for serious offences and repeat offenders. In the case of murder, life should mean LIFE.
Although there is a debate about the best way to record crime statistics, there has been a downward trend for decades now- the streets have never been safer. What has changed is the way crime is reported, combined with faster reporting due to technology.
Idyllic it was not back then and a darn sight rougher than it is now.
It was, as you say, not so readily reported.
sussexguy
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7:19pm Tue 11 Sep 12
luckystrike says...
12:03pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Britain needs its police to patrol on foot night and day in a grid network like it used to. Sentences need to be trebled at least for serious offences and repeat offenders. In the case of murder, life should mean LIFE.