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One dead and another critical after horror crash at speed trials (From The Argus)
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One dead and another critical after horror crash at speed trials
9:28pm Saturday 8th September 2012 in News By Ben James
A 38-year-old has died and a 64-year-old man is in a critical condition after a horror crash at a historic speed trials event.
The male and female, who were racing in a motorbike and sidecar, failed to stop at the end of the track on Madeira Drive, Brighton, and smashed into a barrier.
The emergency services were called at 6.10pm on Saturday before taking the pair to hospital.
A 38year-old woman from Suffolk was confirmed dead shortly after while the a 64-year-old man from London is still in a critical condition.
Leonard Wooller, vice chair of the Brighton and Hove Motor Club, who organise the event, said that the vehicle crashed into a barrier leaving oil spread across the road.
Sussex police are appealing for witnesses with photographs or videos of what happened to come forward.
They should contact them on 101 referencing operation Marsden.
Send your tributes to neil.vowles@theargus.co.uk .
Comments(41)
Bucket feet Duffy
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10:00pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Nightshade
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10:14pm Sat 8 Sep 12
PacMan292
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11:00pm Sat 8 Sep 12
trevleg
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11:02pm Sat 8 Sep 12
hubby
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11:37pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Stop both please!
RIP whoever died.There will be a lot of sad friends and relatives reading this.
Spare a thought eh!
pjwilk
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11:38pm Sat 8 Sep 12
Nightshade wrote:Totally agree with you Nightshade,and my condolences too.
Somebody has lost their life, and you go on about poxy spelling mistakes. Get a grip and show some respect. My condolences to the deceased's family.
bn1since78
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12:24am Sun 9 Sep 12
Gardenboy wrote:This event is Britains longest running motorsport event and has happened here since 1905. It is exactly the place for 'speed trials'.
Very sad, but this is not the right place for "speed" trials! I guess this will be the last one on Brihhton seafront.
Those who enter the event, and any of the countless other motorsport events around the world, know the potential dangers of the sport, and that is part of the thrill of competing.
That said, it is always very sad to hear of injury or loss, but can we all please show some respect for all of those affected by todays incident.
F in L
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12:28am Sun 9 Sep 12
bn1since78 wrote:What a cretinous point of view, by this rationale, opium dens are OK. Enough with this, it should be banned.
Gardenboy wrote:This event is Britains longest running motorsport event and has happened here since 1905. It is exactly the place for 'speed trials'.
Very sad, but this is not the right place for "speed" trials! I guess this will be the last one on Brihhton seafront.
Those who enter the event, and any of the countless other motorsport events around the world, know the potential dangers of the sport, and that is part of the thrill of competing.
That said, it is always very sad to hear of injury or loss, but can we all please show some respect for all of those affected by todays incident.
bmw46:5i
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2:30am Sun 9 Sep 12
DGStrev
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7:36am Sun 9 Sep 12
PacMan292 wrote:We as spectators on the day wish to send our condolences to all Family and Team.You are all in our Thoughts each and every day.
Oh would you lot stop ****. Having competed against both these guys I am at a loss for words. I can only express my condolences for the family concerned and hope a recovery is made by the other. Thoughts from all our team are with you.
Morpheus
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9:31am Sun 9 Sep 12
smorgan12
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9:48am Sun 9 Sep 12
Madeira Drive is the worlds oldest drag strip. Despite the council knowing this event is hosted every year, they have failed over the years to create an even road surface for the racers to be on. Unfortunately the crash that took place yesterday afternoon was a very unfortunate and unusual turn of events for the speed trials. The marshals had put tyres around every post and corner and being at the speed trials myself (missed the crash slightly as somebody stepped in front of me at the last second) I don't believe the couple crashed in to anything apart from a net fence barrier that stops you accessing the Volks Rail tracks.
As the council is now run by the Green Party (Who actually manages to mess up everything for the residents of Brightron) I will not be surprised if this event is not allowed to run anything.
Like I said previously, my thoughts and wishes go out to the family but I believe this crash happened because of the road surfaces created by constant, ridiculous and small repairs carried out by the council. The road surface is totally uneven and needs resurfacing.
smorgan12
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9:48am Sun 9 Sep 12
Madeira Drive is the worlds oldest drag strip. Despite the council knowing this event is hosted every year, they have failed over the years to create an even road surface for the racers to be on. Unfortunately the crash that took place yesterday afternoon was a very unfortunate and unusual turn of events for the speed trials. The marshals had put tyres around every post and corner and being at the speed trials myself (missed the crash slightly as somebody stepped in front of me at the last second) I don't believe the couple crashed in to anything apart from a net fence barrier that stops you accessing the Volks Rail tracks.
As the council is now run by the Green Party (Who actually manages to mess up everything for the residents of Brighton) I will not be surprised if this event is not allowed to run anything.
Like I said previously, my thoughts and wishes go out to the family but I believe this crash happened because of the road surfaces created by constant, ridiculous and small repairs carried out by the council. The road surface is totally uneven and needs resurfacing.
mr punch
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10:02am Sun 9 Sep 12
Things happen, sometimes they are more avoidable than others but, unfortunately, they happen. If someone came off their bike on the London to Brighton which created a pile up would they ban the event? I don't think so. If someone lost control of a vehicle and hurt people running the Brighton marathon would they ban the event? I don't think so.
Things happen, not always good things but that's they way it goes. Hopefully there wont be a knee-jerk reaction to this and people can enjoy doing what they have been doing for years.
If I made any spelling mistakes, call the police, sake.
Kemptownist
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10:04am Sun 9 Sep 12
Alzir
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10:09am Sun 9 Sep 12
F in L wrote:RIP and thoughts with family and friends affected.
bn1since78 wrote:What a cretinous point of view, by this rationale, opium dens are OK. Enough with this, it should be banned.
Gardenboy wrote:This event is Britains longest running motorsport event and has happened here since 1905. It is exactly the place for 'speed trials'.
Very sad, but this is not the right place for "speed" trials! I guess this will be the last one on Brihhton seafront.
Those who enter the event, and any of the countless other motorsport events around the world, know the potential dangers of the sport, and that is part of the thrill of competing.
That said, it is always very sad to hear of injury or loss, but can we all please show some respect for all of those affected by todays incident.
To all theself righteous do-gooders that want to ban everything that might cause more than a scratch: STFU!
www.worthing
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11:39am Sun 9 Sep 12
Secondly, for the critics and killjoys, I attended this event yesterday as a spectator and have previously been a competitor and just have to say, that anybody who enters a motorsport event knows all the risks and the dangers involved especially in a speed event such as this and we would never want this brilliant historic event banned or even any of the rules changed regardless of accidents occurring or not. As a motorsport competitor, spectator and with friends who were entrants yesterday, I think I am speaking for all of us.
All necessary SENSIBLE safety precautions are taken by the Brighton and Hove Motor Club in professionally running this otherwise safe and enjoyable event. It is not possible to make any motorsport event 100% safe and this why warnings are always published for this very reason.
Sanitising motorsport would destroy it and all the enjoyment that comes from the sport whether as a competitor or spectator.
So please just treat this comments section as a tribute and sympathies section for the deceased and injured people and not trying to put the world to rights through it.
Dirk Von Roden
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12:46pm Sun 9 Sep 12
magicmenagerie
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12:49pm Sun 9 Sep 12
F in L wrote:Opium dens are OK
bn1since78 wrote:What a cretinous point of view, by this rationale, opium dens are OK. Enough with this, it should be banned.
Gardenboy wrote:This event is Britains longest running motorsport event and has happened here since 1905. It is exactly the place for 'speed trials'.
Very sad, but this is not the right place for "speed" trials! I guess this will be the last one on Brihhton seafront.
Those who enter the event, and any of the countless other motorsport events around the world, know the potential dangers of the sport, and that is part of the thrill of competing.
That said, it is always very sad to hear of injury or loss, but can we all please show some respect for all of those affected by todays incident.
bn1since78
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1:37pm Sun 9 Sep 12
www.worthing wrote:This echoes my comment above and I agree with you wholeheartedly. People also need to remember that before competing in this event the cars are scrutineered to ensure that they meet safety requirements, and also that the drivers/riders have to hold MSA race licenses in order to compete. It's not just idiots street racing to get to the McDonald's drive through. Again, my thoughts are with everybody affected by the incident.
Firstly, RIP to whoever the deceased person may be and condolences to all their family and friends. My thoughts are with you all. Secondly, for the critics and killjoys, I attended this event yesterday as a spectator and have previously been a competitor and just have to say, that anybody who enters a motorsport event knows all the risks and the dangers involved especially in a speed event such as this and we would never want this brilliant historic event banned or even any of the rules changed regardless of accidents occurring or not. As a motorsport competitor, spectator and with friends who were entrants yesterday, I think I am speaking for all of us. All necessary SENSIBLE safety precautions are taken by the Brighton and Hove Motor Club in professionally running this otherwise safe and enjoyable event. It is not possible to make any motorsport event 100% safe and this why warnings are always published for this very reason. Sanitising motorsport would destroy it and all the enjoyment that comes from the sport whether as a competitor or spectator. So please just treat this comments section as a tribute and sympathies section for the deceased and injured people and not trying to put the world to rights through it.
motco
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3:05pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Rita Snatch
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3:52pm Sun 9 Sep 12
If it wasn't for the speed trials - we would probably still have a stretch of gravel pathway, without any other structure, uner the cliffs, similar to the undercliff walk!
Telscombe Cliffy
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5:28pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Mick Huby
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6:46pm Sun 9 Sep 12
And now a word to the critics and people that obviously worry about their wallets more than people that get hurt:
As an ex competitor and two time 1000 cc motorcycle class winner I think I can say a word or two about safety at this event...
First to the "scraping" comment: SHAME ON YOU, uninformed human being!!! Apart from your obvious lack of respect, your wallet, other than the victims and their relatives, will not feel any pain, cause every competitor has to have a valid race license, that is tied to an accident insurance.
Second: the Brighton Speed Trials are a very safe event. Not only cause they have to meet all the rules and regulations of a sanctioned motorsport event, but because most of the competitors are very experienced and seasoned racers. It's a time trial, so only one vehicle at a time is on the track, reducing the risk of collisions.
As long as I follow the event, I have never seen anyone getting hurt.
Freak accidents can happen anytime and anywhere, but on a race track less often than on public roads.
As a racer you know about the dangers, every time you start that engine.
If society tries to eliminate all risk from life, it will leave us with nothing to live for.
Wigwam,,
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8:14pm Sun 9 Sep 12
bn1since78
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10:58pm Sun 9 Sep 12
Wigwam,, wrote:The recovery trucks are there ready and waiting throughout the entire day, primarily to tow cars back to the start line from the parking area at the end if needed. I guess that the marshals started to sweep the debris from the road to get the racing back underway before they realised the severity of the incident.
Our thoughts are with the families,at this very sad time.We saw this horrific crash and we're amazed that two recovery vehicles were first on scene before the rescue van that was parked on dukes mound .and as already stated sweeping the road seemed to be a priority.
solding
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7:15am Mon 10 Sep 12
trevleg
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9:00am Mon 10 Sep 12
Of course it should be continued as it is a great day out and lots of fun for many people. but it seems obvious from the comments here that resurfacing work by the council and and some extra security barriers and or removal of the concrete cones along the railway line are the very least to do in order to try and make it safer. As speeds will continue to increase year in year out without doubt that is the natural evolution of motorsport.
It will never be completely safe and i completely agree that is what makes motorsport exciting but most circuits these days have run offs or at very least barriers and its only fair to give competitors the safest place possible to compete.
It is still exciting it does not have to be like the TT races on Isle of Mann which although very exciting are also stupidly dangerous raced over poor sufaces beween flint walls. and after witnessing a fatal accident there will never return and I personally do not go to see people get hurt.
Simoncelli was killed in an unavoidable accident. where it can be avoided it should be. is that not common sense life is precious after all.
A combination of the poor suface which caused the Mini to spin out of control earlier in the day and the position of the concrete cones behind the chain link fence were a fatal combination. and left a bad taste on an otherwise fantastic day out in the Brighton sunshine lets hope they can fix things up for next year hey and we can all go back and have a great day out.
honor30
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9:28am Mon 10 Sep 12
motco
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9:37am Mon 10 Sep 12
honor30 wrote:The event programme has the passenger's name as Cassie Fowler and a contributor on a sports car forum has a post by a competitor who spoke to Cassie Fowler earlier in the day. She told him she was due to ride that day on this machine (as per the programme) but she was not (apparently) Charlotte Tagg. Do you know why this might be?
Her name is Charlotte Tagg and she was an amazing woman and mother to 3 great children, bless their hearts. She would be furious if she knew people were considering or discussing closing the track down. She was a big dreamer and finally these last couple of years made her dreams her reality and started riding. You'd never meet anyone more happy or so closely resembling the sunshine. This is a tragedy and great loss that the world will never recover from.
honor30
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10:51am Mon 10 Sep 12
motco
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11:53am Mon 10 Sep 12
motco
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12:41pm Mon 10 Sep 12
CMBHP.
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5:53pm Mon 10 Sep 12
Why would the event need to be shut down? I'm sure that this is not what they would have wanted. and it's certainly not something that we should even be thinking about! our thought's should be with the family's of the 2 people involved in the incident. none of you have any right spreading your stupid pathetic thoughts across the internet! you weren't there, you don't actually know what really happened so shut up. It clearly states on many posters and even the back of the tickets "WARNING MOTOR SPORT CAN BE DANGEROUS, DESPITE THE ORGANIZERS TAKING ALL REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS UNAVOIDABLE ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN, IN RESPECT OF THESE YOU ARE PRESENT AT YOUR OWN RISK"
nocando
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7:39pm Mon 10 Sep 12
Home&AwayBHA
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8:22pm Mon 10 Sep 12
www.worthing wrote:At last! A passionate, sensible & sensitive appraisal of yesterday's tragic accident. Thank you.
Firstly, RIP to whoever the deceased person may be and condolences to all their family and friends. My thoughts are with you all.
Secondly, for the critics and killjoys, I attended this event yesterday as a spectator and have previously been a competitor and just have to say, that anybody who enters a motorsport event knows all the risks and the dangers involved especially in a speed event such as this and we would never want this brilliant historic event banned or even any of the rules changed regardless of accidents occurring or not. As a motorsport competitor, spectator and with friends who were entrants yesterday, I think I am speaking for all of us.
All necessary SENSIBLE safety precautions are taken by the Brighton and Hove Motor Club in professionally running this otherwise safe and enjoyable event. It is not possible to make any motorsport event 100% safe and this why warnings are always published for this very reason.
Sanitising motorsport would destroy it and all the enjoyment that comes from the sport whether as a competitor or spectator.
So please just treat this comments section as a tribute and sympathies section for the deceased and injured people and not trying to put the world to rights through it.
And for those who seek to ban everything which incorporates a risk factor that exceeds staying indoors, remember these several words of truth:
'The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing, and becomes nothing.'
Sincere condolences to the family & friends of the lady that lost her life yesterday; & positive wishes to the badly injured driver of the outfit. I hope he pulls through & makes a full recovery.
motco
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9:06am Tue 11 Sep 12
Yolticat
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4:54pm Tue 11 Sep 12
RIP the young lady, and hopefully the gentleman will eventually fully recover.
Yolticat
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4:54pm Tue 11 Sep 12
RIP the young lady, and hopefully the gentleman will eventually fully recover.
SpoookaaySpooon
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6:25pm Tue 11 Sep 12
Gardenboy says...
9:36pm Sat 8 Sep 12
I guess this will be the last one on Brihhton seafront.